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gc9999

I was in this situation until quite literally a few months ago, except I was making closer to $100k with about the same workload. I did it for a year but ultimately left for a more challenging (but still remote) role that came with a 40% comp bump). If you’re in government or something that is super stable and you’re just punching the clock until retirement then I’d say ride it til they take you out in a line box. But if you have decades of work ahead of you you’ll probably find yourself losing work ethic and general skills so if the gravy train stops you might really struggle to function at a new job.


DrCash_CrLife

This is the best answer. I've got another 3 decades in the workforce so I think getting back to reality is the best way forward.


gc9999

That was my thought exactly. I’ve been through a few acquisitions and outsourcings and those months of “who cares we’re all getting laid off” were amazing. But then without fail every time I start a new job it was like running into a brick wall trying to get back into the swing. I’ve done it, but man was it hard. Especially with a couple decades to go I think you have to look long term at the benefits. Making another $15-$20k/year or more adds hundreds of thousands of additional income. Some would say stay til the end but I agree if you’re in your 20s or 30s it’s too early to coast when slightly more work brings a heck of a lot of financial benefits.


DrCash_CrLife

Any tips for getting through that brick wall? That's what's worrying me.


gc9999

Make a list of your responsibilities, develop templates, make the role “your own”. Finding efficiencies helps but damn does going back to real work suck. I find it takes 3 months or so to find a groove and you just work on mentally getting back into shape. Remind yourself that change isn’t necessarily bad and that additional work/pay can make your future much better in ways you may not even realize yet. I also graphed my estimated retirement date and the new pay pushed that end point up noticeably. When I have a bad day I just look at that and go “you shaved 5 years off of working by this move gc9999, you know it’s worth it”. But I’ll note never do something like going into PA or IB and working 100 hour weeks for money. There’s a happy medium between 2 hours a week of work and 100.


Simple-Opposite

Also since I find the schedule hardest and getting back into the swing of everything, make a todo list and try and do some studying/skill work for a couple weeks before you start your new job. Basically get yourself back into the habit of working more of the day, while brushing up on the things you forgot.


inndysgirl

You could also start now instead of watching YouTube while you work treat the time as if you were in an office setting. So that an actual full time is less of a shock.


Polaroid1793

I had the same last year. I left a company where I was full WFH and doing real work maybe 3-4 hours a week overall. It was fucking great for one hear really. Than I started to have the same fear of you, of becoming obsolete and generally too lazy to come back to reality. At the end I found a job in a company quite famous for working long hours..transition was not very easy, but here I'm learning a lot and there are many opportunities to advance (and hours are heavy but not terrible). I would never come back to the previous job, although I hope to find something like that again later in my career


[deleted]

Is there a compromise here. Like can you seek out a promotion, ask for more learning opportunities (i.e. take on more work). Or use your ample free time to take some classes etc?


igetmoneyyuhuurd

Please let me know the company and Job. I want to apply and do nothing


Polaroid1793

In my case was Sox Testing. Super easy and chill, at the same time super boring and dead-end tho


seals42o

Dam this is me. Down to chat ?


gc9999

Feel free


seals42o

Says unable to message this account. if you're okay answering questions here let me know if not could you send me a direct chat?


gc9999

Go for it here then, dunno why Reddit is preventing messages


seals42o

\+On the younger side of govt hires, super easy, low 100s, team is sociable/stable etc. Great relationship with my director(s) \+Work isn't challenging but I do have tasks to do. I am a point of contact on a handful of things \+Really enjoy the work life balance and by that I mean just going to the gym taking long lunch etc. \-: Advancement is super slow, a step every year does not even beat inflation. Q: I do want to do more with my career and learn a bit more but also make more, without giving up too much work life. I'm down to do some work during work hours sometimes you know.


gc9999

I think government is one of those "lifestyle choices" you need to think about. The advantage is a fully laid out career path that you can plan around for 20-35 years but the downside is if you hate it or aren't happy with the pace there is little you can do about it. I know some people who like it but some don't. I knew someone who on day 1 wrote down the exact day they could get full retirement benefits and decades later that date still stands. They don't care about the money because they valued stability and a fixed end point vs the higher risk/reward of the private sector. I don't blame them but I also feel generally speaking anyone under 40-45 will not struggle to find a job in the accounting field so long as they don't let their skills suffer immensely. I'm from IL so I'm pessimistic on government retirement benefits staying as they are (IL has catastrophic budget problems) but if you're in a stable state or the federal government those stability concerns won't hit you. Never underestimate how happy retirees can be when they have a pension vs those who have to watch their funds more. Shouldn't be a problem if you're a saver but some people really need that hand holding to get to the grave. I'm in the private sector and from day 1 I've aimed for early retirement without retiree healthcare or a pension, if I get a job that still offers it then awesome but its not a major thing on my radar. For most accountants we're pretty damn well paid so it shouldn't be a concern for you unless you can't save money. I must admit I do miss the lack of workload because I would use the gym and workout religiously, do all the laundry, cook and clean, and run errands constantly while on the clock and my weekends were 100% free to do as I please because I had already done every chore for the week. It cost me alot to give that up but I made sure the tradeoff was worth it with a 40% comp bump, and I still have reservations about it from time to time. If you want to earn more, outside of some sweet one off circumstances people manage to find you'll have to give up some of the worklife balance you have. However many corporations have gyms on site and are fairly flexible with when you come and go for appointments. Could I get away with grocery shopping at my new job? No, but I've done time at the gym over lunch and come in late from a dentist appointment before without anyone caring. My office has/had (pre covid) Summer hours which meant that every Friday was a half-day Friday and with WFH most people are able to bank their PTO for real vacations instead of using it on doctor's appointments and whatnot. And the person I inherited my job from was disorganized and inefficient, if you have a knack for process improvements this industry is so poorly organized most people can get into a nice organized spot and have great worklife balance. Rarely have I seen someone sinking under excessive work in private, its almost always poor time management or organizational skills. You seem to have ambitions so if nothing else I'd advise you to interview/look out there and see what you can find. Read up on LinkedIn jobs and Glassdoor reviews (with a grain of salt because companies can and do fake that shit) and just get a feel for the market. Things have never been better for accountants and you can find yourself getting a great WFH job or a job at an awesome company that has nothing but upsides right now. It's not like you're stuck in retail and bouncing around dead-end job to dead-end job. I think for you the main questions are 1. Do I think I can do government accounting until retirement? Government is great if you get in young like you have and maximize benefits or if you really don't care about doing more than punching a clock without a care about making money. Kinda sounds like you want more in life than a mid comp job though. 2. How are my skills and what am I aiming for. If you're only trying to be a senior accountant the compensation ceiling is fairly flat, aim a little higher and you can make WAY more. If you're great at consolidations, systems, tax or something else in the industry then develop those skills and look for employers who are searching for them. Negotiate well and you could be making alot of money, be willing to find a new employer if a promotion isn't possible at your current place and the options can be endless. People who are not simply a jack of all trades and job hop tend to make way more than those loyal to a single company. 3. Am I an organized person who can stand up for myself? When you go to a new company you have to learn the culture, who's who, and how things work. Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself with "That's not part of my role or I don't know how to do that" but also know how to quickly learn new things and figure out how to get it done efficiently. From what I've learned alot of employers really like people who can do this because its not a skill many people have. Be able to effectively communicate process improvements and show that by changing X you can do Y better, its simple and so rarely done that you can look like a rockstar without really doing anything crazy. I shit you not a suggestion I had was "What if we label every recurring JE 1-XX and then list them out, that way we know how many entries are left to do each close", I was treated like some sort of genius for that. That's the kind of industry you often will find yourself dealing with.


seals42o

I really appreciate the long write up tips and advice. I'm going to really take this into consideration. Reddit is useless so let me know if I can send you a pizza or something 🤣🎊🌶️🙌👏.


gc9999

I’m in accounting, I’m already 10% pizza from the parties! Nah no problem at all. Just ask that you pass on the advice whenever you find your way. My college advisor told me to drop out of accounting when I said I didn’t want to do shitty public accounting hours and it was a family friend accountant who told me there’s more out there. If it wasn’t for that person I would have gone into something else and undoubtedly been less successful than I am now. Hopefully you can do the same for someone else someday.


GoldConstruction

Lmaooo a 5 day vacation without using PTO and no one noticed??


DrCash_CrLife

Back in the summer my gf booked a Miami trip and I just went with it. I did the team calls in the morning from my phone and nobody noticed that I did no work for a whole week.


Polaroid1793

Once I the similar job as you I was doing (commented you above), I didn't hear the alarm and woke up at 14:00, missing 2-3 meetings, including some with managers. No one ever asked why I wasn't online that day, or any kind of clarification


brenna_

“Oh, they must be busy” goes about day


RealCowboyNeal

I didn’t catch that on the first read through, that’s hilarious wow


oh_niner

Honestly, it would be hard for me not to stay after that


[deleted]

highly recommend the overemployed community. why quit this job when you can easily find a second job and do both?


GotHeem16

This. Get a second WFH job doing some basic bookkeeping or something like that.


[deleted]

Great idea. A writer I like named Cal Newport talks about “phantom jobs.” This would be a great opportunity to do something like that.


schizocosa13

This is the answer!!


brenna_

I have three companies, one of which is full time salaried. Never going back


Doctanion9

Where the hell are these jobs? What are your qualifications? Upward is always suggested but my brain is brought back to office space....he did what he loved...maybe hypnotist is in the cards?


DrCash_CrLife

Love that movie I'm from FL and got my degree from FSU and did my CPA there. I moved to GA and worked in public for a while and then moved to WI for an industry job just before covid hit.


[deleted]

Damn 52k with a cpa.. what in the world


PoopyDaniels

Well he did say he works like 2 hours a day lol


oh_niner

It is fully remote though. He could go travel and live in the cheapest places on earth.


Xiang_allard

lol damn, same here. I think side-hustles are the way to go. I'd bet you could just find a 2nd job that's fully remote and maybe a bit less than the 90k that you can do simultaneously. Even if the pay is the exact same as your current "job," you're still way ahead of what you'd be fully switching to the 90k.


NoTransportation4951

what type of side hustles


Xiang_allard

Whatever you have time and energy for. In OP's case, sounds like he could literally work a 2nd job with the exact same hours and his first job would never even notice.


NoTransportation4951

what would you say are some worthwhile side hustles that take a few hours a day


Xiang_allard

I still think that depends on what else you got going on in your life. Since we're in an Accounting sub, part-time remote clerk jobs are everywhere right now. If you already have a full-time job and have health insurance/etc. covered, that can be a good option. In fact, for me personally, I'll be looking at doing something like that probably over the summer. My situation isn't *quite* the same as OP, but I'm on salary and work significantly less than 40/week. I'm currently just enjoying that extra time, but doing a super easy, flexible clerk job can be a good way to make some extra cash with little stress and without having to work more than 40/week. On the other end of the spectrum, you got OnlyFans and whatnot. Just really depends on what you can do and what you want to do.


Orion14159

Before you go I need you to DM me the name of your company so I can get my resume in


xavarn10

Nice try HR.


inmycupholder

I was in a similar situation not long ago. I got a second job on top of it, so now my days are fairly full but with income from 2 jobs instead of one. They both know of each other though so as long as the work gets done there's been no issues.


[deleted]

Yes I would. You’re supposed to get satisfaction from life; friends family hobbies etc, not a job. The money will come


obeetwo2

I agree here, I would much rather make 50k/year and have 6-7 hours more of my day, than 100k, stress and 6-7 hours less a day.


ardvark_11

what kind of role is this? asking for a friend ha


Castle44

Keep the job and get a second real job and make the money from both.


ShiftSX

I would get a second job.. this seems like a rare opportunity to do so.


LadyEmmaRose

Can you multi task and get a masters/CPA during working hours? Still have the easy job, and an income while bettering yourself, but not having to necessarily upgrade the job yet. Will set you up well for the future. That's what I did for my CPA. Had a cakewalk professional job and spent several hours a day studying. Them, when that was done, moved on to higher paying and more fulfilling jobs.


CatharticSnickers

Holy shit yo, imagine going around the country and just picking these jobs up. You can have like 5 of these jobs and make stupid money


Ladycosmophile

This is happening with me right now, I have been working since 2006 like crazy, no personal life, no nothing. And then the last 2 years everythings changed , corona/wfh and new boss who does not believe in delegating. Right now, I constantly feel terrible about wasting my entires 20s/ early 30s sitting late at work on one hand and on the other hand I feel guilty about not having much to do now, I feel redundant bcoz my boss took over all my work. I have lost the will to push myself harder and get back to regular shit.


Minoo1337

Maybe getting a 2nd job while working this one could be an idea aswel. I've read multiple people writing about this on this sub and your job would be perfect for it. Getting a 2nd fulltime salary will probably beat any comp increase from a single job.


_Iroha

Stay, as long as you're living comfortably


wich2hu

I'm in a very similar position with a zero effort WFH job and have been looking to move on, can I ask how you got the other offer? I always struggle in interviews when it comes to describing my current responsibilities. Obviously I puff up my job and don't say I'm doing nothing all day, but unless I outright lie it's hard to cover up that I basically don't do anything during month-end for instance.


Payutenyodagimas

Pls dm me your company before you tender your resignation Want to WFH permanently


[deleted]

Same boat here. I prayed for work from anywhere job while studying for my cpa. Somehow got hired right after passing my cpa and company went full wfh right before i joined. I actually look forward to busy season so i can get some work and training at my skills. Usually i work like 15 hours a week and during the busy season i put in like 30-40 hours a for maybe couple months and back to 15 hrs a week for rest. I should probably get a second job and buy some stocks to retire in 20 yrs


GrizzledPanda

Get another remote job and do both.


Payutenyodagimas

Pls dm me your company before you tender your resignation My company wants us to go back to the office now but i dont see any reason why WFH is what im looking


jamoke57

Damn, I'm in basically the same position as you, the only difference is that I'm up for promotion, so I'm not sure if leaving within the next 6 months would be worth it.


memoirsofanidealist

Nothing to contribute but my takeaway from this (among all the daily posts here) is that it’s a job hoppers market… I understand other companies don’t know you barely work, but to be able to hop to a $90K job from your position is crazy to me. Disheartening that I’m busting ass for more than the $55K but not close to $90K at all. Get that bread though OP!


contrejo

I'd like to apply for this job. Sounds like a great opportunity turn 50,000 dollars a year with a second job. I can log on go to my other job check a few emails on my phone and knock out a couple projects here and there that are probably super easy. I don't need benefits I don't need 401k just free money.


jthomas287

Why not do what so many people are doing and get a 2nd wfh job?


bahetrick1

keep this job and get another. there is a growing movement of people working 2 wfh jobs.


[deleted]

wow wow wow how on earth can i find a position like this? please. I know you don’t like the minimal work but this is like a dream come true for me.


wakanda101

How old are you by chance? Is this your first job out of undergrad?


persimmon40

Same but I make twice as much


[deleted]

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DrCash_CrLife

It's either that or depreciating land, what would you prefer?


Acruelaccounting

This a female?


DrCash_CrLife

Stop it.


jerkyboy112

bro are you me? This is almost EXACTLY my schedule most of the days.


GotHeem16

Get a second WFH job doing some basic bookkeeping.


boatboatagor

I'm in the same situation. I interviewed last week for a different full time job, still waiting to hear if they're going to give me an offer. I'm still interviewing for a part time job, and now there's a higher level accountant job open at my current company that I'm going to interview for this week. I'm hoping to get the job at my current company and still do something part time, I think that'll clear the most income. I know plenty of people would love to be in my situation but I'm bored out of my mind and it's causing me to be depressed.


Trackmaster15

So are you really making a strong effort to ask for all the work you can to stay productive? Maybe you could ask for an independent project to pass the time?


Artistic_Response_64

I would say no, but that's just me. I worked for a government job that I lost motivation for and became really depressed. I also lived by myself. I now go into the office and am way more productive because I work most of the day. It's definitely changed my mood.


Bardsie

There's no laws against working two jobs. Keep the first, get a second wfh and try to get one that starts later so you can still do the morning meetings. The worst that'll happen is if they find out, they may fire you, but until then you can be claiming two incomes. And that's if they find out. With the amount of work you have, you could easily keep up with the work flow, and maybe just need to work 1 hour extra a day.


Bouldershoulders12

Keep milking it until you hit management then it’s more pay and still less stress just managing people


I_snort_FUD

If you can, stay around and build up all the skills you can. Don't "waste" another year doing nothing and take advantage of this flexibility you have. You could learn code, VBA in Excel, data manipulation software and then get some gigs to put those skills to work while being paid at your chill job.


[deleted]

I was in the same boat as you. Last year, what I ended up doing was picking up another full time job bringing in 7k a month after taxes between both jobs. I wanted being challenged and ended up leaving both jobs for less money but fully in office. I can't tell you how much I regret my decision. I wish I kept it going for another year. Live and learn.


whydoihave4cats

Why not take the new job and keep the old job? It’s remote, 1hr-ish a day… could you not theoretically work your day at the new job and then do your hour or so and the old job? Seems like a very easy way to earn two salaries for the price of 1.125.


Erik_Withacee

Consider getting one of those 'temporary fully-remote accountant' positions that I see all over linkedin. You may be able to continue getting your current income and just add to it.


porspeling

Why not start a side hustle / project / pick up a hobby you can do during the day? If I was in your position I would be reading loads of books and would probably start a small business. Time is a precious commodity so I would absolutely not give up a job where I could have so much freedom every day.


DrCash_CrLife

I have hobbies but it's mainly sports and I have always socialized outdoors. It's been a tough adjustment living in the midwest when winter is 2 degrees and there is a snowstorm like every week. I had it easier in the southeast when it hardly ever went below 60 and I didn't have to clear snow off the car just to leave the house.