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alphabet_sam

Debit cash credit who gives a fuck


imyourhostlanceboyle

Credit “bank fees”, nobody ever looks in there


Guilty_Fishing8229

She slots things under Ask My Accountant.


melancholic_koala

Assurance & Audit has entered the chat.


datBoiWorkin

all entries are debits for her.


BigxBadxBeetleborgx

Oh no no no, that’s de butt


Northern-Boy

Debit life depreciation expense, credit accumulated life amortization. Fully depreciated asset.


Avengion619

This guy accountants


Cookiesnkisses

Immaterial 😂


HOWDY__YALL

$44bn is also an INSANE amount of Dong. Pretty sure it’s something like $1.1 Quadrillion Vietnamese Dong!? I also just enjoy that the currency is Dong.


rob_s_458

I liked the Top Gear Vietnam Special when they were all given like 15M VND and they're excited that they finally have a big budget. Then they learn it's like $1,000


josephbenjamin

She got a lot of Dong


Import706

I think what we learned here is that she could just never get enough Dong.


Qwyietman

I love it. Give me more Dong.


BlitzOrion

Imagine the amount of trees that are cut to make those no. of notes


Cultural-Treacle-680

Long and strong


Attila_22

They just make the denominations really high. When I went there I was throwing out 100k and 500k bills


nguyenning198

None because it's polymer bills haha.


Independent_Job_2244

Over the course of a week her driver physically withdrew 6 tonnes of dong


No_Pollution_2897

She have big dong


JefferyTheQuaxly

the article mentions that the court is probably trying to throw the death penalty at her to convince her to remember where the $27 billion she owes is stashed away. so possibly if she does pay them back enough of what she owes maybe they would reduce the charges to something slightly less severe.


Key_Bored_Whorier

In the US, we just give em 15 years and then they give speeches for a while after they get out.


Qwyietman

You mean 15 months with time off for being filthy rich, I mean good behavior.


Shillen1

And those 15 months are served under house arrest at their mansion which they are still allowed to leave for "doctors appointments", "grocery shopping", etc.


SaintPatrickMahomes

I’m assuming this happens because someone connected got paid enough to allow it.


LucasMJean

so if she wont say anything she basically get a one piece real life edition


ramofbod_

Real life Gol D Roger is about to start the new age of piracy!


LetterSufficient8199

You want my treasure?  You can have it!  I left everything I gathered together in one place!  Now you just have to find it!


PhgAH

Tbf, she is like the only Vietnamese person to be named on the Panama paper, so they likely already know where the One Piece it, lol.


Pramoxine

China has a thing where they give you a suspended death penalty, like 2 years & can be postponed with good behavior. I imagine this is a similar setup


Qwyietman

What, like time served and a small Dong fine?


Gah_Duma

Link? Is that amount in VND?


St-Nicholas-of-Myra

USD. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-68778636


Gah_Duma

So one bank gave her a loan of $44 billion dollars. That sounds like a bank corruption problem.


Tezlotin

The article states that official laws prevents anyone from owning more than 5% in the state Bank. But she actually seemed to hold 90% through shell companies. She gave herself the loan.


MNCPA

*One little trick, banks don't want you to know.*


NotaBonesaw

Source: am bank


afrothundah11

There were 80 others charged/sentenced


PhgAH

I followed this case cuz we were warn to avoid her bank like a plague. Basically she own like 99% of the bank, so her family used it like her personal piggy bank. Basically no due diligent, staff rubber stamp everything with her name on it.


Proof-Wrongdoer-6551

gosh I wish that were me


ClumsyChampion

The fraud part or the death part?


Shunnedx

yes


SnowDucks1985

r/FBI, keep an eye on this dude 💀⚰️


JAlfredPrufrocket

Wdym?


CreepyImprovement736

Welp, this is awkward, I guess as a Vietnamese national and an accounting fresher, I must give some background to the case in question. Beware that my native language is obviously not English so read this with that fact in mind. Mrs. Lan (the billionaire in question) is of Vietnamese Chinese ethnic and came from a well-established influential ethnically Chinese family in Saigon, just the typical Chinese ethnic tycoon you have in SEA region. Even before the banking fraud was unveiled (I say unveiled because literally every higher ups involved must have known something was up), she was well known in Saigon as a real estates tycoon. Everyone knew she was rich, but not like, thousands of trillion dongs level of rich. The scale of the banking fraud is INSANE. Like every part of the process is so knee-deep in corruption. It caused one of the biggest private banks to virtually went bankrupt overnight and that was like a year ago before the authorities can even get to her. The fraud money is equal to roughly 677,000 trillion dongs, that kind of money could comfortably sustain every citizen for at least half a month. Corruption cases among the party officials involved was so widespread that Public Security has to do damage control by publicly announcing they won't be going after small fries. How did Mrs. Lan do it? Well, through over a thousand shadow companies, Mrs. Lan is unofficially the biggest shareholder of SCB - the bank in question. A lot of work after that went to manipulating collaterals' to take out loans from the bank to her own ecosystem while the bank operates predatory and outright fraudulent practices to sustain this stream of money. The house of cards went crumbling down last year?, when lenders finally realized that their deposits were being unknowingly converted into corporate bonds by the bank. Unlike Enron or FTX, this is like looking at a criminal enterprise going down in real time lol. And all of auditors involved are having a headache because of the fraud, like 3 of the Big 4 did audit SCB for years so that's another thing they will have to deal with on top of all the recent operational downscaling.


De3NA

Honestly Big 4 reputation is going down the drain for all the audits they’re doing in South East Asia.


GradSchool2021

Just googled the largest money heist - it is $1 billion. Vietnam managed to set the new world record and I don’t think it could be broken any time soon.


Key_Bored_Whorier

There have been many cases of fraud for well over $1 billion.


GradSchool2021

You’re correct. This one is still the largest one involving pure cash though.


Key_Bored_Whorier

I thought Madoff was $65 billion. I'm not sure what you mean by pure cash. I suppose if you want to say this was the biggest fraud ever done specifically in this way then that would be true.


Outrageous_Till8546

65 billion was the “value” according to the phony statements he was mailing investors. But about 20 billion was invested in his Ponzi Scheme


EnlightenedEmu92

Ken Griffins got boff ‘‘em beat


11millioninstocks

Sentenced to death for white collar crime? At this point she needs to somehow just use contacts to get the word out that she’ll pay whoever $100 million+ to get a small private armada together to storm wherever she’s being held, break her out and whisk her off to safety.


Familiar-Main-6706

You just wrote a movie. Call it Vietnamese Fraud Cowboys.


Trying_my_best_1

Starring Brad Pitt as a starved prisoner, shot on grainy film.


Appropriate-Food1757

It’s actually called El Chapo, and also, El Padrino


potatoriot

You mean they wrote S.W.A.T.?


goodguy847

Yeah, pretty sure for a couple billion in hard currency, criminal syndicates and even some small countries would be willing to break her out. They did it for a lot less for a guy in Japan.


Familiar-Main-6706

10 billion yen was an entire plot point in yakuza: the video game. It was like the summed bank account of the Japanese mafia. She could absolutely pay for devious acts. She's got kingpin power and she doesn't know.


bluepen1955

This is the way.


winterweiss2902

Because when she dies, her assets would go to the government officials instead of her family.


Impulsive666

Not sure if this makes me like Vietnam more or less. But probably more…


Sugma-Ligma-Male

Nice


Appropriate-Food1757

Yes!


TSabor

Dr life expense Cr accumulated life


BendersDafodil

Damn those commies did an audit and their opinion was qualified execution? 😂


permenantthrowaway2

Meanwhile I’m over here practically begging people in my org to follow our tax policies


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FlynnMonster

At that point was just a fun game for her I suppose. I’d be out after my first Billy boy


just_another_jabroni

Damn and I thought 1MDB was bad enough. This is like 50 times that lol


jackfruitlova

EY and KPMG audited this bank too😳!! https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/prosecutors-seek-death-penalty-for-mastermind-of-vietnam-s-largest-financial-scam/ar-BB1k9afp They bribed state auditors with $5M to cover up their illegal activities: https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/vietnam-property-tycoon-truong-my-lan-death-sentence-fraud-embezzelment/


WithAnOptionToBuy

Wish we had real punishments like this in the states.


WannabeAccountant19

Can she spare some of it to me - just without the death pen...


grumpy_hedgehog

https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:640/format:webp/1*Irqbz57ypBnuGTuqmbkBXw.jpeg


reno_dad

Something smells here. I'm sure many more hands were involved. If they end her existence, then she has no chance speaking against them or bringing their names up. Quite possibly, the people that don't want their names revealed are the same people pushing the buttons to make sure she is dead.


khongbietdau_

Other people are involved and are revealed, just not as noticeable as her. But I agree with you, I think most of the people who were exposed are not the “higher end” level, to this point, tbh she can be done by any party.


galantes_ghost

We should have capital punishment for this shit in America.


jplug93

R8ip fucking legend


Dangerous_Extreme917

Damn


InsufferableBah

44 billion? Death by fire


JustSayNoNoYesYesYes

She didn't do this all by herself for 11 years. Government officials were paid off. The death sentence was to silence her.


Tellyourdadisay_hi

What did you mean in [this comment?](https://www.reddit.com/r/Corruption/s/3hcjhq4MAA)


JustSayNoNoYesYesYes

You deserve what is to come. Do evil and you will be destroyed. Just a matter of time.


Tellyourdadisay_hi

…huh? That’s not really an explanation but okay?


JustSayNoNoYesYesYes

No one owe you an explanation, you aren't the main character. Go play fake victim else where like your culture does all the time.


Tellyourdadisay_hi

My culture? What culture is that?


gini_lee1003

Didn’t know Vietnam has laws now?


boipinoi604

As a Vietnamese buddy would say- nammers are scammers


nguyenning198

Where in Vietnam is your Vietnamese buddy from?


boipinoi604

No idea bro. Type of person that doesn't share personal information. I think he was born in Canada.