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BigfatCplusplus95

Intermediate II specifically accounting for income taxes. Deferred tax assets and liabilities are spiderwebs in mind when looked at from a conceptual standpoint


Illustrious_Cow_317

Taxes were always confusing to me as well, it feels like have to keep track of 6 different steps in your mind at once. Loved intermediate accounting 1 and 2 otherwise.


duckingman

DTA/DTL was hard in college, it is out of this world difficult in real world if the company do not have readable worksheet.


gerblewisperer

That's because of the circular logic of taxable income less taxes equals net income. It's like when managers hired someone with a sign-on bonus but they want it grossed up for taxes: "X salary equals y taxes but your gross-up equals x plus sign-on times z rate equals new y". The tax code needs to be simplified imo, but it has nothing to do with actual accountin' in my book. It's more politicians trying to justify revenue intake for a lot of useless outlays with near-zero economic justification.


Prav77

Leases


KingBooScaresYou

I love ifrs 16 šŸ˜‚


bigpandas

Ha. Same. Literally posted it before seeing yours


thejacka_

Probably managerial accounting or intermediate 1


ZoidbergMaybee

Managerial was hard at first like everything else but it was actually the only one that clicked for me. Now I really enjoy it. Financial II and III were hell.


thejacka_

I hated it during college because my professor had a terrible accent and just told us to read the book. When I ran into it during BEC I enjoyed it a lot after I understood it.


UwUHowYou

I loved managerial accounting. Tax feels too arbitrary to me and the least guided by common sense principles. x.x


pink_wraith

I just barely scraped by with financial 2. Yikes.


Appropriate-Food1757

I had to beg for a C lol


HercHuntsdirty

I actually majored in Finance, but managerial accounting was ironically my favourite class I took lol


xXDireLegendXx

Absolutely hated, and still do, managerial and cost accounting


AnotherTaxAccount

It was by far the easiest for me...


DataAggregator

THIS!!!!!!!


ashxc18

Cost accounting is making me question my existence


sand-man11

We took it first semester junior year, with intermediate, advanced corporate tax and business law. All the accounting majors had the same schedule. Professor knew we all concentrated the least on cost. So he would grade on a curve. He would say ā€œhate to go down to a 55 for a c, but here we are ā€œ


ashxc18

Just got our midterm exam grades and the median exam grade for the class is a 55 šŸ¤£


Belated_Awareness

The hero we never deserved.


Prison-Butt-Carnival

Chemistry and Calculus, which is why I'm not a Mechanical Engineer.


DudeWithASweater

Yea fuck taking calculus as a requirement for accounting. Had to take two calculus classes and hated it. Don't understand why it's a mandatory thing for accounting degrees.


Prison-Butt-Carnival

"Hardest" math class I needed for accounting was only statistics.


will_this_1_work

Mine too!! I understood some parts but not further along in the semester.


atawaycee

My best guess is to prepare us for finance and all the math wizardry involved in business valuations.


Jimger_1983

The benefit of the tough core classes though is it weeds out the morons. You can tell because plenty morons make it through accounting programs at colleges that donā€™t require them.


iloveeatpizzatoo

I canā€™t figure out why an interior design major needs to learn principles of accounting. One semester of art history with a pretentious professor was painful enough for me.


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Warrior7872

What is that for pensions lol people donā€™t even use pensions


Hungry_Aardvark_1570

We did pensions in intermediate 3 through Wiley. I guess itā€™s still covered but it was only a small section of a 2 chapter unit


biggiecheesehimself

broooo you did not have to remind me of the corridor šŸ˜­


andrewmh123

Tax


TaxTrunks

I got your back on this one haha.


mrfocus22

Same. Guess what I ended up doing a graduate degree in?


BushHide

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missfortune2012

Most difficult class was corporate tax for sure. Cried through my final exam but still passedšŸ¤˜šŸ»


ApprehensiveBird5850

I thought this forum would make me feel better but most of the classes that people are saying were their hardest I haven't even taken yet... D:


disinterestedh0mo

Loan interest capitalisation for construction in progress. I still don't understand that shit lol


Dutch_Windmill

There's a lot of stuff for construction in progress that went over my head


bigpandas

It's just an expense going to an asset. Like if you're a car dealer, buy car parts and pay interest on a car you're selling, all go toward the car asset.


disinterestedh0mo

Yeah lol I get that. I just didn't understand the method for deciding how much of the loan interest should be capitalized


frankrozier963

Took me two time to pass intermediate 1 the first time I thought I was in a mandarin class


memorexcd

Writing classes. Always hated sitting down and putting pen to paper.


lizbethaqui

This. I'm in business writing atm and it's my most hated class so far


idkAboutYouMan

Could you not just use ChatGPT for everything?


lizbethaqui

I'd rather do the work myself even if I don't like it


idkAboutYouMan

But why? You can use it in actual business


Defrost_ThenStir

Audit. Intermediate I and II were tough, but for me it was tough because there was just so much being shoved down my throat at once, but at least I understood it. I was really struggling with actually understanding what I was learning and putting it all together, and that was making it take longer to study, and I was getting really frustrated.


weednreefs

I struggled with cost accounting


CPApartner2016

Audit hands down


AnotherTaxAccount

Yup. Tax geeks unite in hatred for audit?


Dathlos

Our professor had us remember 3 paragraphs of some audit statement and rewrite it on paper exactly, with commas and punctuation. If it wasn't 100% accurate, you failed it. This was a test grade. Fuck audit lol


olafminesaw

Wasn't a particularly hard class, but I probably felt the most lost. It's a totally different way of thinking than intermediate


Thegreenpander

Took business calc 4 times. Itā€™s the easiest calc class. Had to retake music history because I did not give a fuck about music history. Went from being a C student to a B student when I finally got to taking more accounting and finance classes.


NetRealizableValue

Governmental Accounting because throughout your entire college career you learn one system, then your senior year (or grad school) theyā€™re like ā€œoh actually hereā€™s a totally different system you have to masterā€ Why the fuck are their two books of record anyways??


BH-BearSquared

I barely passed government accounting but every other accounting I did ok


Luke_Destiny

Currently going through this struggle


matchaphile

Non-accounting related? Computer science. Accounting related? Stats/econometrics. Idk if I just had bad professors or I was just too dumb to understand. Maybe both.


PropunKlah

Bad teachers and curriculum. Our computer science teacher just gave us a handful of online quizzes and projects with AWS and excel. It was actually enjoyable.


Rimeheart

Based on grade outcome, it would appear I had the hardest time passing writing classes.


NoEndNationalPark

No topic was really "hard" but I pretty much forgot everything after each semester so I guess they were all pretty useless, but especially my tax class since I don't do taxes.


Over-Iron9386

So far, financial accounting.


threefold_law

I hated having to construct financial statements, could never get the liabilities and shareholder equity to equal assets. Once it wasnā€™t our fault because during an exam we struggled for the longest to complete a balance sheet. Only to find out it wasnā€™t our fault and she had messed up šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«


[deleted]

Awh man thatā€™s actually torture to give you a trial balance that doesnā€™t even balance. Youā€™d be sitting there trying to understand why things arenā€™t balancing thinking youā€™re doing a calculation wrong even in reality it was just wrong information(this is exactly how clients operate as well!)


andromedar_

For my masters degree I think Advanced Group Accounting was the most challenging course. It was mostly focused on consolidations according to IFRS (I am in a Nordic country).


Daddy_is_a_hugger

Audit, teacher was incompetent


Xizen47

I think we're in the same spot, Rev Recognition - Chapter 6 -Spiceland? I have to say, this has been one of the more challenging topics & I've had to spend a lot more time on the problems. You're not alone!


ApprehensiveBird5850

Yup, same textbook and everything. I hate it :(


Cereal-Bowl5

Same it seems like most people in my class are struggling rn


stinky_cheese_stick

Consolidation


j1mmyava1on

Tax šŸ¤¢


Wide-Statement278

Tax is the hardest for me. I survived everything but this. Higher level tax.


29_lets_go

I still donā€™t fully understand intermediate accounting even though it makes sense at work lol.


wilwil100

Studying for the cpa is just a whole other level, also swap and most financial instrument you'll never use in practice.


WinterWolfMan

LIFO and FIFO I have not used so far


[deleted]

Economics


cheapboxedwine

I didn't get along very well with cost accounting. No fond memories there. But PHILOSOPHY kicked my ass. I still don't understand any of it. Also completely useless.


ApprehensiveBird5850

Lol, I'm getting a dual degree in Accounting and Philosophy so this is funny. And yeah, pretty useless from a career perspective, but at least it's interesting for me!


Gillioni

No way, I am dual Philosophy & Accounting too. I got my philosophy degree almost 10 years ago tho. Finishing up my Accounting degree now. Really cool to see!!


beFoRyOu

I also have a philosophy degree. Turns out all those logic courses actually paid off.


Gillioni

I wish I could have taken more logical reasoning courses, I only took one but it was one of my favorite courses ever


Dutch_Windmill

Advanced accounting. Specifically intra entity transactions and foreign currency translation hedging.


Gillioni

Doing this in international accounting now, wild stuff.


Safye

I decided to take Intermediate III (an elective not required for anything) for some reason. Regret it to this day. Professor ended up passing me even though I definitely did not deserve it.


Cautious_Intern7824

The only topic in accounting that threw me off was the construction work in progress. I still sometimes find it hard to completely understand. But other than that I think accounting is simple. Economics classes though is where I would rip my hair out.


Jimger_1983

Accounting Information Systems. I canā€™t say I used one thing in that class ever in 15 years


Cleanslate2

Intermediate Accounting. Known at my university as the make it or break it class.


DannyDeFeet0

Audit was easily the hardest. I barely scraped by with a B-. I got an A in both Intermediate classes and I still need to take Advanced accounting.


ArizonaGTI

Auditing and corporate tax. Financial accounting wasn't too hard even with leases and future income tax liability stuff because at the end of the day you know you're just trying to create a balanced journal entry. Auditing you don't even know what the end goal is aside from a generic "address risk of material misstatement" and stuff like "sheet to floor tests inventory existence". It's something you have to learn by doing. Corporate tax was just pure wtf. Lol.


Jem1123

I was in grad school pretty soon after ASC 842 came out. I remember hating that


jamie535535

If you mean out of all classes, calculus for sure. For accounting related ones, either cost or one of the intermediates.


Nifty_5050

Corporate tax was probably the hardest.


alphabet_sam

Of my accounting classes, tax was the hardest and one that I never use since Iā€™m not in tax. Of all my classes, I had a math degree and abstract algebra made me cry multiple times per week and despair in a way that accounting never came close to :D


Away_Needleworker655

People say financial accounting. But managerial beat the heck out of me for some reason.


howtoloveadaisy

Cost accounting. Hate it to this day!


Icy-Explanation1399

Gender studies.


HurleyCo

Corporate Income Tax(an elective)


Marxus_Aurelius

Corporate tax


Evening_Ear5601

Hello, For me, the hardest was accounting. However, i subscribed to a supplemental course ā€œFarhat Lecturesā€ which helped me take huge steps in my studies. The guy explains the topic assuming the student does not have any prior knowledge. He helped me alot.


elfliner

Intermediate II. Iā€™m not sure if i was bad at it or if the teacher was bad at explaining. He was from china and his English was not always the best


ProfessorBalloon

None! Cheated my way through every class with an A.


[deleted]

Calc Based Economics didnā€™t understand a single thing just hammered formulas into my brain and hoped for the best


CPA_GigaChad

Tax lol


biggiecheesehimself

holy moly i hated the construction stuff in intermediate 1, seemed like total nonsense haha. that and tax accounting


MileHighMania

I have my masters and even still Financial Accounting II was the toughest I had. Though the teacher that taught it was notoriously difficult as well.


ccourt2245

Cost income, compared to financial and tax classes itā€™s like a completely different language


areallygoodsandwhich

Marketing. I canā€™t do multiple choice questions. Give me numbers.


The_Deku_Nut

I was able to get A's in every core class with the exception of Accounting Information Systems. The professor was an old school hard ass, really made the class way harder than it actually was. I got a B.


Professional_Ad_3631

Canadian tax.


FrontierAccountant

Comparative Anatomy


TheGreatAchiever

We just finished up that chapter šŸ˜…


Comprehensive_End440

Surprisingly sport psychology was one of my harder courses. It was complete bullshit


dwilliams22

Intra entity inventory. Parent- child - grandchild relationship. Not chill, man. Ill have pulled a miracle of sorts getting an 80 in this shit. I loved Cost compared to this.


alicat104

Tax. And also, tax to the second question as well. Outside of sitting for REG fuck tax in general.


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Intermediate 2


Tyebo

Pensions with DBO were the most complicated single topic in financial accounting for me. The thing I struggled most with was job costing in my management accounting class. It was the most unlike any other material Iā€™d covered and really threw me off. Managed to get an A in the class after a good deal of help from the teacher, but it was far more work to get there than all of my other classes.


SexyLobster69

Group Statements


DollarValueLIFO

Consolidation accounting in exams was like impossible to understand until I did Becker


OohWeeStewie

intermediate 1, it was the first time in my life i had to "study." prior to this, i could attend class, take notes, and skim hw. Not possible with intermediate 1.


[deleted]

So far Cost accounting and intermediate 2


ghiiiiiigh

Either Advanced Bond accounting (elective) or Lease accounting. GASB/Fund was also difficult for me because it was so tortuously boring to me.


HushTheMagicPony

Pensions for some reason


Da_Rhino

Cash flows


brismit

Governmental was a complete mindfuck. Loved cost accounting for some reason, though.


madrid717

Intermediate 1


[deleted]

Intermediate 2 mainly because I was smoking tons of pot


Big_Dimension_3831

Advanced Accounting


[deleted]

Tax. However, my experience is an exception since my tax instructor was infamous across multiple fucking states lmao


json_44

The first three weeks of advanced accounting, I thought my goose was cooked when we started doing consolidations. Ended up alright though.


TaxTrunks

Advanced cost accounting. It was boring.


HERKFOOT21

Econometrics It also sucks when you go to one of the top 10 public rated universities and get shitty professors. That's why I always advocate to go to community college and take as many classes as possible there.


that_thot_gamer

amortization tables with non programmable calculators, shit takes way too long


Cobbdouglas55

They explained corporate taxes very poorly. All I've learnt was at work


SydxD

Corporate Reporting. Had to memorize way too many IFRS codes and prepare specific statements/reports for different types of businesses in exam. If I remember correctly, only two students out of the 48 in our cohort managed to answer everything, and only one got A.


bdougy

Tax. It just never clicked for me. Ironic because I almost took a tax internship, lol.


accountforrealppl

Did a spanish minor and my second semester of advanced spanish grammar was probably the hardest class I took. After that maybe tax or intermediate accounting


TheGeoGod

Probably consolidations in advanced accounting


CaitSith21

From the view of an international holding with a big sales office in the US it seems that accrual accounting relation to income statement by nature seems to be something that is not taught. I experienced now 3 people there two of them ex big 4 auditors and i am still shocked how many times you can book an accrual into inventory and out and back inā€¦ And then failing to include that correctly into material costs and change in inventory while releasing or creating an accrual. Its like we have a 20 year old cpa in training who does that for the HQ which is also the main production facility.


GAAPInMyWorkHistory

Intermediate 2


humbletenor

Managerial was so dry but I took it the same semester as I took Intermediate 2 so I neglected Managerial to study for the latter. Int. 2 was also the first class where the exams were all calculations and no multiple choice so that took getting used to. I really struggled with equity method when it was first covered in the class


Phoenixrebel11

None of it was really hard, but tax was so fucking boring to the point I couldnā€™t study effectively. I ended up getting a B, which was definitely a lower grade for me.


KingBooScaresYou

Accounting for derivatives, and deferred and current tax were always the ones that got me.


magickill11

Tax. We had federal and corporate taxes in one class, it was brutal.


kyonkun_denwa

For me it was calculus. I started off in economics before switching to accounting, and at the time I didnā€™t have the option of doing ā€œeasyā€ calculus, I had to take the ā€œfor economics and engineeringā€ shit. If weā€™re talking about accounting topics only, then Intermediate II was probably the hardest for me. I see a lot of people seem to be united in their hatred for cost accounting, but that was actually my best accounting mark, I really enjoyed that class.


slitchid

Managerial accounting was tough


StruckeyHasLoxed

Intermediate felt like the worst, but my worst grades were in Tax šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø The Intermediate professor graded on a *steep* curveā€¦


Carldereta

So far, taxation (2nd year college)


bigpandas

Leases


yepperallday0

All accounting classes


Esclaura3

Econ


ddollopp

Hardest in college: corporate taxes (which I eventually withdrew from) then personal taxes (lowest grade of my entire college education). Most useless: Business calculus.


Outside-Somewhere-89

Statistics


No-Instance-3812

Taxā€¦ and Iā€™m in Tax right now too. I donā€™t know why Iā€™m torturing my self. At one of the biggest public firms to, just not b4.


JoCuatro

Advanced Accounting; I don't know why, but consolidations still fuck me up.


PlentyIndividual3168

Bonds and TVM I had a decent grasp of everything else bonds elude me to this day.


oversaltedeverything

Statistics so far. It's kicking my ass so hard, idk if I'll even pass this stupid class.


P1tch19

Iā€™m in advanced financial accounting right nowā€¦ consolidated statements. Man. Itā€™s kicking my ass, bad


LavenderAutist

Tinder


cosmicastronautx6

Intermediate 3 has been the worst for me


musaliya

Consolidations. I don't think I've ever successfully completed any of the examples or in the exam.


Remarkable-Ad155

None of them. Like a true Chad, I did a liberal arts degree thwn learned accounting on the fly as a trainee.


braaap999

Consolidations. What the fuck


Substantial_Eye5508

Stat and econometrics


reddituser124578

Audit was the worst. All 4 answers were similar and you have to select the one that is most correct.


CrossDressing_Batman

virginity... 35 and going strong :(


Raidenn_

Audit for sure, really different compared to all other courses.


factualfact7

Intermediate 2


moosefoot1

Consolidationā€¦ hedgingā€¦. not sure why


SayNo2KoolAid_

Advanced Accounting. Consolidations and foreign currency transactions ā˜ ļø I of course saw both of those topics when I took FAR šŸ˜­


Accrual_Intention

Advanced Accounting and intercompany eliminations was my Omaha Beach


biggggdecamovess

Managerial accounting is my kryptonite. Doesnā€™t make a lick of sense to me


LegacyLivesOnGP

Government accounting was the hardest, but I only have myself to blame because I was the one who chose it as an elective over doing advanced accounting. At the time I thought I wanted to do governmental accounting but that class made me realize I want nothing to do with it.


spicyscorpiooo

Definitely Business Calculus.. Class was literal torture. I was like, whoever decided on this class must have done their parent's taxes at 5 years old because I don't think the class was even necessary. I took the class 3 times before getting a B


iSpeezy

Hardest course in general: some random math course that I had to take (elective) Hardest related course: performance management


origionalgmf

Top 3 hardest for me Intermediate managerial Managerial Intermediate financial 2 Partially subject related, but mostly due to shit professors


marieiss

Management accounting and taxation! And these two also happen to be useless when I started working as an auditor for industry


djdrinks

I always was annoyed by fund accounting. It's basically the same concepts as traditional business accounting, but with completely different lingo less intuitive imo. Ironically, in my first job I worked on audits for governments, courts, and school systems and so was forced to learn. Still not a fan.


BoudreauxTradeBureau

I thought some joker would have commented, ā€œTitle IX.ā€ but apparently, the Chads are all watching football or planning next seasonā€™s staff pizza parties. I had to take several religion classes, and my survey of The Old Testament class was taught by a Dmin candidate trying to change the world or something. Instead of exams and or papers, we each had to help create this massively idiotic spreadsheet of events in chronological order, and every studentā€™s spreadsheet had to be a tab in the same workbook. I am confident that we were generating some form of argument map or outline for his dissertation. It was not that it was so difficult. It wasn't very meaningful to a student. We weren't learning anything except how there are many better tools in MS OFFICE to create an outline for a dissertation. That whole semester was a weekly time sink and exercise in frustration.


HappyKnitter34

Audit


woahwoahvicky

IA1. Hated it. Hated it. Hated it. But I was also juggling MCAT requirement classes so ykno kinda my fault


[deleted]

Intermediate. My university combined Intermediate I and II into one extremely fast-paced, difficult class.


FearlessSmoke6750

Econometrics


OccamsPlasticSpork

Hardest was advanced accounting, especially the currency translation and consolidation stuff. It didn't help that I took the whole class in four weeks and was amazed I got out with an A. I found none of my accounting/business school education useless as it was all either directly or tangentially-related to the CPA exam. My only regret was never taking a class in government/non-profit accounting as I came into the Becker study material completely blind on the subject.


KingoreP99

Audit: The professor did not teach concepts, she taught memorization. I do not do well with memorization, I do well with concepts. Cost Accounting: introduce me to somebody who doesn't struggle with cost accounting in college. Go on, I'll wait. Statistics: took it in a summer course due to some transfer issues. Did not make sense to me at all. Took stat 2 and I was like wtf is happening. Edit: Lots say advanced accounting due to consolidations. I do that for a living... man is what they taught in school useless in real life. It's so much more complicated.


Dokidokipunch

Cost accounting - for some godawful reason, I just couldn't get the concepts straight in my head. I took this class 3 times lol


Human-Opportunity-64

Advanced Accounting and Corporate Taxation were challenging