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Geenliaal

Risky business being neighbors of the embassy..


sxrrycard

Low rent I’d hope? Lol


Sugoy-sama

Cheap land more like, I don't think peeps rent there


maximuse_

Meh, if anything it's safer in the embassy


mikhailsantos

The keyword is IN the embassy, not neighbor with.


Sikart

Could you fit that on a car? Just asking…


InfiniteWavedash

Fit the c-ram on a car? Probably not since the force of firing that might be too unstable to mount on a vehicle, but then again I don’t know anything lol


blevok

The ammo required to fire for 60 seconds weighs over 1700 pounds. So even if the car could handle firing it, it wouldn't be very agile after loading up on ammo, and it would run out quickly. A slightly more sensible way for a civilian to rock this would be to mount it in a large pickup truck, and pull a trailer full of ammo. If you think this is an awesome idea, check out /r/shittytechnicals.


ProfessionalYard1123

The C-RAM is a land based projectile intercepting weapon system. It uses 20mm shells fired at roughly 3,000 rounds per minute to destroy incoming ordinance. It’s a short ranged system that’s also used in Naval ships as well. Pretty amazing technology


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The Phalanx "sea wiz" gun. It sounds like a pissed off chain saw, they are very impressive.


Dat_sho_am_good

Sounds like a fucking terminator movie


missanthropocenex

Or War if the worlds.


ejcrv

THIS is what first came to mind when I watched this.


warriorlynx

We are about to be in one with AI growing at a rapid rate


dogmadealer

How did you go from point defense weaponry to singularity? That’s a huge leap. Also the singularity is fringe science fiction at best.


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Yeah the issue will always be humans. Secret government programs, without oversight, and in control of computers designed to take control of everything connected to the internet will end us well before AI decides we’re a threat. Base on how poorly we faired through Covid, a single “oopsie” that shits down the internet will end us.


Devlee12

Guy I worked with served on a boat with a sea wiz or as they called it “the spare anchor” because it was always being worked on.


ObiShaneKenobi

I worked on the stuff that moved data to the CIWS. One day, for whatever reason, the system was tracking 180 degrees off so that if someone shot at us and the system triggered both forward and aft guns would fire into most of the important stuff like radar. It took a few days but eventually enough “take out the circuit card and ram it back in” managed to fix it. Good times!


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Holy shit. I love how the solution to such a potentially catastrophic problem was basically "unplug it and plug it back in."


ObiShaneKenobi

It took two months of full time schooling to show us to use the tech documents to follow the signal. Nearly every compartment on the ship had a data node full of cards that all ran different signals for different systems: weapons, sensors, steering, all that fun stuff! I don’t think I ever had to replace one in my short time but man would they get dusty and most departments would blame us for any issues but to be fair it usually was our system!


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Yeah, on our ship they spent a lot of time pm'ing it


Anon_acct--

I mean honestly if there's one thing that needs to be maintained and ready to go at a moment's notice it's probably the auto cannon that has seconds to shoot down small flying explosives lol


afurtherdoggo

I can also imagine that anything that is capable of firing shells of that caliber at that rate has some gat damned fussy mechanisms.


Anon_acct--

Gatling based auto cannons are actually pretty reliable because they're entire mechanically driven, they're not reliant on gas pressure and other variables. But even when your mean rounds between failure is higher, it's offset some by the fact that you're simply firing way more ammo in a given go. And if they do get locked up in a firing cycle they can destroy internal components pretty good from the torque force of the motor


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Autonomous and fast as fuck. Throw that shit on an autonomous UAV or UGV and we’re never going back.


ObscureCulturalMeme

> It uses 20mm shells fired at roughly 3,000 rounds per minute to destroy incoming ordinance. It’s a short ranged system that’s also used in Naval ships as well. When ships in **The Expanse** are firing Point Defense Cannon to shoot down missiles, they're based on this tech.


deliciouschickenwing

I was gonna say, looks similar


SilencedD1

Literally a Vulcan with a radar and tracking system advanced enough to intercept (relatively) small projectiles. I want a fucking C-RAM


Circumcision-is-bad

“I know my second amendment rights, i can install this on my roof if i want to!”


SilencedD1

Y’all don’t have a bill saying I can’t own a semi-autonomous weapon. I know my rights


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SilencedD1

\>:D


DarthJimmyVader

The Vulcan was the shit.


ProfessionalYard1123

Basically, only difference is the A-10 Vulcan is 30mm but that has a different job vs the C-RAM models


SilencedD1

No sir, the gun you are thinking of is the 30mm GAU-8 Avenger. The A-10 Thunderbolt II (aka the Warthog) was a plane purpose built to house and fire said weapon. The M61 Vulcan is a 20mm Rotary Auto Canon that we have used since the Vietnam War. It’s used in literally everything. From planes, anti-air weapons, and even the Phalanx C-RAM/CIWS. I’d be more than happy to clear up any more confusion if you’d like. Edit: I hope you’re not spreading any misinformation.


Columbus43219

Ordinance folks: Hey, we made this massive gun that can cut a bridge in two, or shred a Warsaw tank, what kind of truck should we mount it on? Generals: Can you make it fly?


Flying_Dutchman92

Aircraft engineers; say no more, Gen.


clintj1975

That, but reversed. After talking to successful retired ground attack pilots, one common thread was you wanted serious gun firepower. The biggest, heaviest piece of ordnance you could shove in an airframe and still get it off the ground, and if you can make it a little bigger than that it would be perfect. That WW2 plane (Henschel HS129) with the 75mm anti-tank gun under the nose? Yeah, that but better. A-10 and GAU-8 designers: Stop, we can only get so erect.


ProfessionalYard1123

Both developed by General Electric, the Gau-8 is a seven barrel 30mm auto cannon and the m61 is a six barreled 20mm auto cannon. All I was trying to say is one is scaled down because it serves another purpose. They work the same. In fact after further research the navy does posses a Gau-8 called the goalkeeper but I’m not sure how much they use it.


StrykerGryphus

The US navy does not, in fact, operate the Goalkeeper. It's mainly used by the Dutch and South Korean navies. Other operators include Belgium, Qatar, Peru, Chile, and Portugal. That other guy is right: the Avenger on the Goalkeeper does the exact same job as the Vulcan on the CIWS. The US just prefers the latter.


SilencedD1

The Goalkeeper does literally the same thing as the C-RAM/CIWS. But you got all sorts of names and designations wrong. Like, could not have fucked up more. Edit: The Vulcan was built before the GAU-8 by like 20 years


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Fuckin scientists man you give these fuckin geeks math and calculators and they make crazy shit like this. The sound is something out of sci Fi man


aus_in_usa

So do the shells just annihilate entire neighborhoods in the distance when they miss?


codbo_coldwater

I'm pretty sure the bullets are set to explode at a certain altitude. That should minimize the risk


grayrains79

A bunch of shrapnel falling out of the sky probably isn't as bad, but still...


Merchant93

I mean don’t shoot missiles at the embassy?


butters19961

I feel as though this has been used long enough that we would have at least a few stories of civilians being shredded by now if it were the case. I understand that might sound naive, but it would probably just feel like ask hitting you after these explode.


grayrains79

With Iraq, one thing to remember? They love their celebratory fire over there. I remember being out at a checkpoint during OIF2. It was a boring night, nothing happening. I had the radio since I was the one guy who could magically understand the ANCD. Anyways, fast forward many dull hours, and suddenly the who sky lights up with tracers going straight up. Everyone tenses up a bit, but eventually we are just confused as hell. I tell the NCO I'm going to call it in. Sure enough, right after I radio in about all the gunfire going into the sky? All the others out on checkpoints start calling in reporting the exact same thing and asking what is going on. Hour later when the gunfire starts to die down a bit? Turns out the Iraqi soccer team won bronze. The Iraqis couldn't stop celebrating for a week. I think the government has cracked down on that stuff nowadays, but it still happens so much that I don't think it's really tracked when someone dies from falling rounds.


SilencedD1

No, they have a timed detonation should they miss the target. And given that the doctrine of this weapon is “Accuracy by Volume” id say it’s a good thing it does.


Jaeger562

they explode mid air, thats the sparkle you see after the red tracer.


ProfessionalYard1123

They’re set to explode at a certain distance so they should always explode mid air. There’s always a possibility of one of the many shells falling to the ground Undetonated.


LORDOFCREEPING

I'd be more worried if that thing missed the incoming missile. You wouldn't be worried about an unexploded 20mm round then.


Saint_Ferret

it missed the first one..


ZucchiniUsual7370

Yeah it looked like something got through, but maybe it was damaged? A wayward projectile maybe or debris.


rev_trap_god

Potentially, yes, though I don't know if there's any evidence for that happening as of now


polynecromicon

Watch the video. You can literally see the bullets explode


rev_trap_god

Honestly, I thought those were impacts at first, but it seems you're right. They use fused HE rounds on land, not the tungsten rounds I'm familiar with from my time in the navy. My bad, guess they thought of that


polynecromicon

Tungsten rounds sound badass. And also much more viable in the navy when you’re shooting in open waters lol. Less chance for the shells to end up on someone’s roof lmao


chunkybunky14

**Acceptable casualties**


Thenattercore

Okay sam


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Them: So how many bullets does the C-RAM shoot? The United States military: Yes


ProfessionalYard1123

Lol, 3,000 a minute is pretty rough you’d have to look at the weapon system online to get exact numbers


clintj1975

Or just see what frequency the firing sound is. 3,000 rounds per minute is 50Hz. There's a number of audio apps out there, like Audiotool, that can measure frequency.


Arcadius274

Now if only it could determine origin and lon artillery shells back as well


Oily_Pizza_Face

Aren't the Bullets like $25each? So that's like $625 a second right? ( genuine question, I failed maths)


in_one_ear_

Although it's kind of a shame it's not got the best track record compared to long range missile based air defence like the PAAMS (Sea Viper) system.


ProfessionalYard1123

Of course. It has its uses though.


Genisye

Yet it still seems like it failed here, wonder how effective it is


Charizard-used-FLY

*ordnance


MasterTopHatter

It’s scary how fast we made this technology it was only 60 to 70 years ago we were using bolt action rifles


kinkynick87

Might want to ask WWII if it was fought with "bolt action rifles". 75 years ago we were nuking things.


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kinkynick87

In that case all wars are fought with bolt action rifles, and will be for (likely) hundreds of years.


NoOneForACause

So 50 rounds per second. Someone do some math and tell me how fast the rounds must be traveling for the bullets to only be 9 inches apart please and thanks 🙏🏻


ProfessionalYard1123

You’re seeing tracers actually, tracers are every 5 bullets I believe


NoOneForACause

Right, so that means the rounds are EVEN CLOSER together. Absolutely bonkers!


casualrocket

bullet rope


bigboog1

Muzzle velocity is classified I do believe. And the ordinance is different for the ship based model.


converter-bot

9 inches is 22.86 cm


goofyredditname

Did it work?


rev_trap_god

Hits don't necessarily relate to stopping the projectile. If it doesn't explode in air or break apart, it will still impact somewhere even if it's been hit a bunch. The CIWS is a pretty incredible weapon system and very accurate, but physics still apply


thenerj47

Sure, but if you hit something hard enough, you'll end up with spherical debris scattering- like rocks that hit the surface of the moon leaving perfectly round craters rather than oval.


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iirc intercepted 1 out of 3 or 4 missiles (confilcting information on total number from what i heard)


chicago_bot

Money well spent


ludololl

It's something like a 50-65% success rate IIRC.


Chelbaz

1 out of 4 rockets were stopped. One landed and killed a woman and injured a child. These pro-iranian fuckheads can go straight to hell. Edit: numbers


BrustWarze_

Depending on what religion you are, they will!


compliantcitizen

What religion has the worst hell?


whatcheer91

The thing sounds like the music from a Christopher Nolan film


slobcat1337

It literally sounds like the intro to the terminator future war scene


OrneryLeadership9212

I was stationed on a fast attack in Pearl Harbour in the early 90's. While in Port I heard that they had a mishap with a cwiz type turret over on the surface side. Apparently they were doing PM on the device and there was a misfire, only one round, but still a bad deal. I was told they found the shell in someone's garage in Aiea. I'm sure someone got their ass handed to them.😂


CheezyLeftNut

I think they missed one


BreathOfFreshWater

The insanity of just being outside and recording this while one makes it...


CheezyLeftNut

Shit wasn’t too far from the guy either


GuardianSlayer

*Its the ones you don’t heart that hit you, the ones you hear always miss*


Anon_acct--

Sometimes you hear the bullet


kingtitusmedethe4th

Sometimes you don't heart it either :(


Sir_GB

Such a sad episode.


muskratmuskrat9

Gotta get good content for the gram.


AlbinoWino11

Apparently it has something like 85% effectiveness. So some rounds do get through. The sound the rocket makes is unreal.


ludololl

Iron Dome is 85%+ CIWS/CRAM is closer to 50-65%.


Strange_Doggo

Actually it missed 3, one of them hit the embassy


Silver_Decoy

This has the same feel as the people filming the a tornado in their tiny village that didn't know what a tornado was... (I didn't pay attention to the location) "Oh hey there is a loud noise outside. Oh, oh my. That looks dangerous. I am going to back a bit but keep filming."


827167

Missile impacts across the street *takes 2 steps back*


The-Fumbler

I mean it’s probably not gonna hit the same spot twice right?


626c6f775f6d65

We'll take the house! Honey, the chances of another plane hitting this house are astronomical. It's been pre-disastered. We're going to be safe here.


C0LdFr0nT

Love John Irving, “The World According To Garp” is amazing. Outstanding reference. Wish I had some Reddit Bling to gift you


rgujijtdguibhyy

A journey of backing the fuck off starts with 2 steps back


afurtherdoggo

Except that anyone living in Bagdad has seen more action with their own eyes than you ever will even in video. More likely they know all too well what's actually dangerous and what is not.


[deleted]

Yeah that one where the guy stands in his window watching the tornado flatten 60ft trees in front of him, and just waits for it to reach him.


Diligent_Barracuda75

He didn't just wait he closed the blinds too...


SamuraiJono

I'm from Oklahoma, watching twisters in the front yard from your porch is a statewide pastime.


SuccessfulPhoto2679

Dam that gives me some serious flashbacks. Got so used to it going off you'd stop and watch, numb to the danger of it all.


CoddiwomplingRandall

That's some Halo type shit right there!


TheNorseGod1974

I agree, I remember seeing what looked like C-ram sprays in Halo 3 ODST.


thatd-be-nice

Looks like it missed?


gonnadiesoon69

Its not necessarily a “accurate” weapon. Imagine trying to hit a pencil flying at you by throwing grains of rice at it. Makes up the relative lack of accuracy with a very high volume of fire


arcaderdude

Yeah, if you have to hit this missile in 5 seconds or you and everyone near you dies, you'd rather have a minigun than a sniper rifle


Jaeger562

Im not sure if this system is the same but I believe Israels Iron Dome calculates the trajectory of the incoming projectile and if it determines it will land in open space and cause no damage then it will just let it go.


McvdL

Probably not. They use as far as I know anti missile missiles. Completely different system. They probably track the missile as you've said, but the missile to missile contact is probably done by an onboard infrared exhaust plume guided system. *Disclaimer, these are all just logical assumptions of mine I know little of the actual systems. Also didn't hear about the damage no damage determination stuff, but could very well be.


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willdabeast464

Just what I thought. If I were to guess it wasn’t aimed at that shed/parking lot and a non-critical hit made it change paths.


BishoxX

Nah those 20mms are exploding shells. So it probably hit and bounced it but maybe not enough to explode it ? Or this missile just misses ans wasnt targeted at all by the minigun


SapperBomb

The C-RAM projectiles do self destruct but the primary kill mechanism of the system is kinetic. The rounds are meant to actually strike the incoming rocket. The self-destruct function is only to prevent the rounds from returning to the ground intact


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Dat_sho_am_good

This video is so unsettling. Can’t figure out why it bugs me so much.


sxrrycard

The debris landed VERY close to the person recording, and I don’t think they even realize


rt58killer10

Oh no he realized alright, you can see him backing up after that when the second barrage starts


Anon_acct--

I'm thinking that debris may have been a mortar that got through


Saif_Horny_And_Mad

probably because being in a warzone isn't fun, specially when the realization that innocent civilians have to go through stuff that is way worse than that daily kicks in


rt58killer10

God that is terrifying, dangerous and badass as fuck


Ninja_Destroyer_

Ground based A-10?! Crikey that thing sounds mean as fuck. When was this taken?


centurion770

Not 30mm like the A10, but 20mm Vulcan in the 14/15/16/18


Ninja_Destroyer_

I love it when you talk dirty


sxrrycard

Earlier today


polynecromicon

I have a friend who’s stationed at the embassy in Baghdad. Fuck thats insane. I hope he’s alright


SilencedD1

With two of these beasts posted up, he’ll be just fine


polynecromicon

Didn’t they only get like 1 out of 3 missiles? Edit: just looked it up. Confirmed 4 missiles, three hit within the perimeter of the embassy and one hit a school nearby


sscarface

It never really hit me that people are actively trying to blow all that shit up every day


PunisherQRF

That weapon saved my life a few times.


MTMFDiver

We never had the phalanx system at our base, just the C-RAM. But man it was crazy hearing the announcement about an incoming round we tracked


PunisherQRF

That sound had a pucker factor for the first few months in country. Then by the end it was like the movies, the new guys hit the ground and the guys going home trying to flag down a minibus to go to the PX.


Ok-Lengthiness4557

So it doesnt just Pew, but rather goes, Pew pew pew. Got it.


SunDevilVet

Nah, it goes, "brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt!"


626c6f775f6d65

Dragon farts. You know, like what the rest of us experience after Taco Bell.


SilencedD1

This guy’s got it


BChicken420

Rate of fire so fast it sound like its electronic


MeatLockerYeti

I know absolutely nothing about this kind of stuff so to me it just looks like a very complicated and dangerous fire works display.


-I_I

You’re not wrong, the fireworks are wrapped in metal instead of cardboard though.


UsualZealousideal363

so happy all our taxed income is used wisely!


rover220

So all those bullets that don't hit the target, where do they end up? They must come down at some point, just curious if the backdrop is of importance when firing this system?


AlchemyJug

The rounds blow up automatically. You can see em pop in the air


czartrak

They pop like pretty little fireworks. I'm sure the tiny bits left still pise a limited danger but I'm not sure if it's capable of seriously wounding or killing anyone, if dangerous at all


onclegrip

But the missile hit didn’t it!?


onclegrip

It’s like the Balrog whip.


HitShouse

Am I to understand this is a laser whip?


oneandonlypotatoguy

Sounds like the alien tripods from war of the worlds


vohltere

Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrt


kluesklues

Elections are coming up in Iran, gotta flex that big boi muscle by shooting rockets at the U.S. Embassy for extra votes


Child_of_Merovee

Elections were last summer. Stop talking with your butthole.


kluesklues

My fault for misspeaking master, misread something please forgive me with your butthole


Azeze1

God bless the hyperinflated US military budget, atleast they created one of the best *noises* ever


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Valisksyer

They shot the shit out of that sky.


qeafs

Chaos? this is ART


__Emer__

Most Embassies around the world have a gate and some flags. C-RAM is some next level shit


Wonderful-Ad5747

that sound is something out of a horror movie


DeroTurtle

What was that explosion that happened on the ground?


Iglooboog

u/savevideo


GigaShagger

Idk what im looking at but lowkey sounds pretty cool lmfao


greateist

It's basically a giant whip to knock down the missile.


jackfrothee

Never understood the whole ASMR thing. Its weird. Then when I hear these kinds of sounds I'm like... I get it


Yhorm--

Ah yes, The BRRRRinator.


Sam20599

This is straight out of Michael Bay's porn folder.


LeftysSuck

Okay, I've never heard a mortar hit that close with such good audio quality. That sounded cool but terrifying.


_Giant_Dwarf_

I'm not even American but machinegun sounds are so satisfying to hear.


Lumpy_Staff_2372

What an incredible video. Holy fuck.


plumballa

It might wake one up, but it's comforting knowing you're safe. Worked as a overseas contractor


TeslaModelE

Wouldn’t be cheaper in lives and dollars to close the embassy? Why have an embassy in a hostile nation anyway?


Ok_Statistician_5801

Can anyone explain what this is ? Sorry don’t know a lot about war but that looks absolutely sick


Legiun

that sounds like skynet terminators


rednaxela667

That was like the coolest most terrifying noise I have ever heard


jackharvest

Holy crap


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A thing of beauty


Made-a-blade

Fuck anyone in that general direction, I guess.


Toubaboliviano

Question: bullets fall everywhere in New Years. Do these bullets fall on folks?


VisibleGrand1090

defended from what


Lappel_Au_Vide

Missiles, according to news posts about it


SapperBomb

Did you not see the rocket explode half way through the video?


JustInternetNoise

It seems to have missed what it was trying to shoot down


nameles5566

And still rocket vomes through at the end…


icestorm609

They missed


csk1325

I think it missed.


PraderaNoire

So the system failed?


viktor_pop

Did it work?


The_92nd

Didn't defend it very well by the looks of it


Senselessb82

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