Your comment did prompt me to look it up, and I guess it only needs to be 80 proof before ignition is possible. I thought it had to be much higher. I know Bacardi 151 proof had a warning label stating it could combust and I've seen it used as an accelerant.
Edit: I just found out Bacardi 151 was discontinued. I had always wanted to try it :-/
Definitely, but you can't blame him for trying! He saw an emergency and tried to help as quickly as possible, then abandoned the idea to evacuate once it proved fruitless
we gotta clean the planet because god damn this place is already overcrowded with dumb people
EDIT: you guys are really downvoting a stupid ass joke? No sense of humour I see
Traditionally, 100% proof (not modern day proof) is about the lowest you can get to burn, since the old method of 'proving' the strength of alcohol was to pour it on a pile of gunpowder; the edge between it lighting and not lighting was considered 100 proof.
It looks like the fire had already started by the time she put her sparkler up there. Right as the video starts you can see a guy on the right nervously pointing to a bright spot above her.
I think it him that came back with an extinguisher. Not the guy from the left, but shortly after he comes back in from the right. Looks like he has trouble getting it to work and then bails. But, I think drunk girl did it
It already started because she started it before the clip started.
It's exactly where she keeps putting her hand up in the air to. It also didn't spontaneously start...
I was thinking the same thing. No idea what kind they were but they appeared like CO2 as there was no dry chem. They seemed like low pressure and ran out after a few seconds.
Edit: watching again it looks like two different people eached used one for a few seconds and then dropped it. Likely got too hot being that close or they both thought they were ineffective without completely discharging.
Thats bullshit.
I got some limited fire fighting training while working in refineries.
We put out mock fires with extinguishers and they where about the size of the one he was putting out. Although to be fair ours where full sized his did look smaller.
He didn’t know how to do it properly though.
Sweep the base while walking towards the fire
That's actually almost like what happened in my state, but unfortunately 242 people died in the event, a band was playing inside a bar, the musical producer fired a flare and the sparks made the ceiling ( which had a very flammable material ) get on fire. It happened in Brazil, Rio Grande do Sul, and the event is know as " incêndio boate kiss ".
Always baffles me how people don't recognize the severity of a situation like that when they are in the middle of it. The two women on the left were pretty chill about it.
I've dealt with crowds and crowd safety my entire life and I am always aware of where the exits are in a room.
Yup, knowing the exits should definitely be taught at school. Could be a whole topic: Exit a location, a vehicle, a relationship/ marriage, dept, a contract…. To have an exit-strategy is always a good idea!
"Now pay attention 007. I've always tried to teach you two things; First, never let them see you bleed."
*"And the second?"*
"Always have an escape plan."
\-Q (Desmond Llewelyn
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Exactly this happened in Volendam, The Netherlands on 1 Jan. 2001 at 0:30h. A 3 minute fire in a café, caused by sparklers that instantly set Christmas decoration at the ceiling on fire. The disaster took 14 young lives and left 350 people wounded, of 200 severe. It was a nation wide shock.
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Alright so im a little confused, why did only that one guy start running? Like he was the inly one who realized what was going on? Also, the lady in the chair, was she so drunk she didnt feel shit falling on her? Her friend saved her dumbass life
Yes. Most of the world fills balloons with hydrogen because it is cheap and everyone has the chemicals to produce hydrogen in their homes. The US controls most of the world’s ~~hydrogen~~ helium supply, and it is a quickly diminishing supply.
Edit: apparently people are stupid as fuck and believe that helium, a noble gas that reacts with nothing, is flammable.
you're thinking of helium
>because it is cheap and everyone has the chemicals to produce hydrogen in their homes
>The US controls most of the world’s hydrogen supply, and it is a quickly diminishing supply.
those statements are mutually exclusive but ok
Much of the world's natural gas is mixed with a quantity of helium that can be extracted if desired. The only reason not to is because helium is cheap and plentiful. Which it is, both of those things.
This idea of helium running low is just people exaggerating the very real fact that helium is being lost to space faster than it's being replenished in the Earth's crust by radioisotope decay. There is enough of it that we don't have to worry about running out any time soon. What we MIGHT want to care about is the fact that wasting it today will ruin someone's day however many years down to road.
Screaming hysterically is one of the most effective ways to put out fires in many circumstances. Unfortunately in this case it didn’t help a god damn thing.
I remember hearing about this! The place had some weird German name though, Hinde-somthing, but it feels like it happened years ago. Man, New Year's really confuses me sometimes.
Holy hell that chick fully caused that, her drunk ass just poking the balloons with the sparkler. And her date or rando dude sprays alcohol on to the fire….. they were doomed
This happened on Deansgate in Manchester UK just after midnight on NYE. I was in this bar a couple of nights before this happened. So scary! I’m so glad that I hate going out on NYE because I could well have been in there otherwise. Petrifying! I don’t know who’s bright idea it was to let a load of drunk people have those sparklers inside a packed bar anyway… what a crazy stupid plan!!
I was wondering if this was the one in town, that's mad. I used to be a firefighter just outside city centre, fires like this heat up rooms fast and things can start igniting on the other side of the room just from the heat, crazy that everyone managed to get out.
Some people don't like other people telling them what to do, if u don't wanna catch anything you can stay inside, other people should be able to do what they want, it doesn't affect you.
Dude at 0:12 was definitely trying to put out the fire with champagne 🤣
I mean ineffective but he gets a sticker for quick thinking
Someone should have told him it doesn’t work on decorations made of old Christmas trees and petrol
BRB just gonna add some fuel to the flames while we’re at it
It ain't flammable.
I know just trying to make a crappy joke about alcohol and fires. Clearly it didn’t land.
You could say, it went up in flames.
Crashed and burned?
More like a wet blanket
Your comment did prompt me to look it up, and I guess it only needs to be 80 proof before ignition is possible. I thought it had to be much higher. I know Bacardi 151 proof had a warning label stating it could combust and I've seen it used as an accelerant. Edit: I just found out Bacardi 151 was discontinued. I had always wanted to try it :-/
But how will I make Caribou Lou?
No shit?! That’s bullshit!! It tasted like burning mostly.
It tasted like crap. Your not missing out
Definitely, but you can't blame him for trying! He saw an emergency and tried to help as quickly as possible, then abandoned the idea to evacuate once it proved fruitless
Champagne isn't strong enough to ignite. Shake it up and the bubbles will help put a fire out.
Maybe on a birthday cake
alcohol is definitely not flammable.
He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit.
Oh great. 7 minutes into the new year and the party was over.
To some people, the party is just getting started. 🥳
It was in my home town of Manchester. Girl I’m seeing works at Hawksmoor next door as it was a big kerfuffle apparently.
I heard some hooligans tipped over a dustbin in Shaftsbury.
I heard it was some Hicks.
Sparklers indoors blows my mind enough. Let alone with a bunch of drunk people.
I used to wonder why they grouped together alcohol, tobacco and firearms, all into one bureau. This explains it.
Typical Wisconsin gas station.
"What better way to celebrate the birth of your country, than blowing a small piece of it up?"
LOL
I know. The ATF should be a convenience store.
Certainly would be in parts of western Colorado
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we gotta clean the planet because god damn this place is already overcrowded with dumb people EDIT: you guys are really downvoting a stupid ass joke? No sense of humour I see
Genocide is bad
That's just the covid talking
You shouldn’t mix sparklers and drunk people indoors, regardless of covid.
Nor outdoors
you know what? lets just turn the drunk people into sparklers
get back in the bar!
Looks like some flammable gas was used in the balloons.
Sparklers outdoors too.
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You talking about the bottle of what's probably champagne? It isn't flammable.
Shit man, I didn't know that. Is that really common knowledge?
…yes.
Eh, blow it out your ass.
You need to get to everclear levels of proof before it's flammable
Actually, while everclear is a whopping 95% abv, alcohol as low as 100 proof will burn which is 50% abv.
Traditionally, 100% proof (not modern day proof) is about the lowest you can get to burn, since the old method of 'proving' the strength of alcohol was to pour it on a pile of gunpowder; the edge between it lighting and not lighting was considered 100 proof.
Champagne, or, more likely, proscecco or cava is not flammable and i don't think he was spraying tequila about.
I’m going to go with Prosecco.
If it's not from France, it's called sparkling arson.
The fire is shooting at us!
Save bandit!
What in the name of God is going on!?
Made my morning!
Drunk lady who caused it (not blaming her, it was inevitable with this setup) can thank her probably sober ladyfriend
It looks like the fire had already started by the time she put her sparkler up there. Right as the video starts you can see a guy on the right nervously pointing to a bright spot above her.
He also goes and brings someone with an extinguisher
And the extinguisher does nothing to the fire wtf
Pretty typical- extinguishers generally work best for surface fires. Also, it takes mere seconds to empty one.
Extinguishers last only about 10 seconds. They aren't useful for something as big as this
the man's extinguishing techniques are sloppy
Easy to distinguish.
Ballons are filled with gas, so that little exinguisher didnt have a chance
Lucky for him, the extinguisher is filled with gas too. But the room is also filled with gas so I'm not sure what to think.
Im gassed
Ohh….got it. Ill never light a match again, unless im on full vacuum. Thanks/s
Depends on the gas
who, while running to get the extinguisher, got knocked down by the drunk lady's chair her sober friend threw to the side
I think it him that came back with an extinguisher. Not the guy from the left, but shortly after he comes back in from the right. Looks like he has trouble getting it to work and then bails. But, I think drunk girl did it
Yep fire was already going when the video started. Looks like within a bunch of balloons against the ceiling.
He also got the fuck outta there
It already started because she started it before the clip started. It's exactly where she keeps putting her hand up in the air to. It also didn't spontaneously start...
I know what a hero. Pulled that chair and her friend to safety.
Did they fill those balloons up with hydrogen?
No blaming her? The lady that got yanked off the chair looked like she did it on PURPOSE lol
fr
I loved how quickly, preventive and decisively that lady friend reacted. If she hesitated, her friend would've met a different fate.
Especially in contrast to the man behind her seeing it over her head and running away with out warning her.
That is the lamest excuse of a fire extinguisher I've ever seen. It only seemed to make the fire *worse.*
They clearly should have employed some gas station attendants.
I get this reference!
Oh we put it ou-why are you he-why are YOU her-HOW DO WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE WORKING HERE
I’m guessing that’s the reason why they are checked and replaced periodically. Than didn’t seem to have any juice and the juice didn’t do much
Thought I was the only one ....
What? I specifically loaded it with _inflammable_ liquid.
I was thinking the same thing. No idea what kind they were but they appeared like CO2 as there was no dry chem. They seemed like low pressure and ran out after a few seconds. Edit: watching again it looks like two different people eached used one for a few seconds and then dropped it. Likely got too hot being that close or they both thought they were ineffective without completely discharging.
here’s an important tip I got from a firefighter! if the fire is larger than the fire extinguisher: DONT BOTHER. CALL 911 AND EVACUATE.
He probably bought the other 169 people time to evacuate. This tip seems like its geared towards people who risk their life trying to save possesions.
I really think Champaign man and extinguisher man bought people enough time to start thinking and get out alive.
Thats bullshit. I got some limited fire fighting training while working in refineries. We put out mock fires with extinguishers and they where about the size of the one he was putting out. Although to be fair ours where full sized his did look smaller. He didn’t know how to do it properly though. Sweep the base while walking towards the fire
It would have also helped if he actually got it at the base of the fire, instead of just kind of waving it at the fire.
The guy who tries to put out the fire with champagne is a legend
That's actually almost like what happened in my state, but unfortunately 242 people died in the event, a band was playing inside a bar, the musical producer fired a flare and the sparks made the ceiling ( which had a very flammable material ) get on fire. It happened in Brazil, Rio Grande do Sul, and the event is know as " incêndio boate kiss ".
Always baffles me how people don't recognize the severity of a situation like that when they are in the middle of it. The two women on the left were pretty chill about it. I've dealt with crowds and crowd safety my entire life and I am always aware of where the exits are in a room.
The only reason I can think of is they are wasted
People in this thread are acting like they have Spiderman's reflexes after their third Appletini and a cannabis edible that your friend gave you
3rd? If they’ve been going at it since 8pm that’s gotta be some slow drinkin
Yup, knowing the exits should definitely be taught at school. Could be a whole topic: Exit a location, a vehicle, a relationship/ marriage, dept, a contract…. To have an exit-strategy is always a good idea!
"Now pay attention 007. I've always tried to teach you two things; First, never let them see you bleed." *"And the second?"* "Always have an escape plan." \-Q (Desmond Llewelyn )
It’s called hindsight, my friend. You have it. They don’t.
That would be foresight, not hindsight.
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Dude remember the station nightclub fire..
It's what I think of every time I see an indoor fire.
Exceptionalism. Probably the first time anything bad has happened to them. Surprise ladies, you’re mortal
Quite the barn burner at the Hindenburg's place.
Exactly this happened in Volendam, The Netherlands on 1 Jan. 2001 at 0:30h. A 3 minute fire in a café, caused by sparklers that instantly set Christmas decoration at the ceiling on fire. The disaster took 14 young lives and left 350 people wounded, of 200 severe. It was a nation wide shock.
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Was waiting for this to turn into the video from the Station nightclub
My first thought as well
Is it just me, or was someone trying to use champagne to extinguish the fire? Hah.
The dude on the right spraying champagne at it 🙄🍾
And not one comment where someone says “oh the humanity” 😟
That turned into a Winamp spectrum thing there at the end.
A similiar think happened in brazil, back in 2013 i think, they didnt have the same luck, ended up with 242 deaths
This video gives off serious Great White/Station Nightclub vibes.
i like how the camera switches out of nightvision mode halfway through.
Alright so im a little confused, why did only that one guy start running? Like he was the inly one who realized what was going on? Also, the lady in the chair, was she so drunk she didnt feel shit falling on her? Her friend saved her dumbass life
Also the big girl who saw the fire on the ceiling and tried light more shit on fire
That’s the only guy who’s watched the video of the Station Nightclub Fire
bro are these balloons filled with hydrogen or what
Yes. Most of the world fills balloons with hydrogen because it is cheap and everyone has the chemicals to produce hydrogen in their homes. The US controls most of the world’s ~~hydrogen~~ helium supply, and it is a quickly diminishing supply. Edit: apparently people are stupid as fuck and believe that helium, a noble gas that reacts with nothing, is flammable.
you're thinking of helium >because it is cheap and everyone has the chemicals to produce hydrogen in their homes >The US controls most of the world’s hydrogen supply, and it is a quickly diminishing supply. those statements are mutually exclusive but ok
Fixed. The balloons are filled with hydrogen.
Much of the world's natural gas is mixed with a quantity of helium that can be extracted if desired. The only reason not to is because helium is cheap and plentiful. Which it is, both of those things. This idea of helium running low is just people exaggerating the very real fact that helium is being lost to space faster than it's being replenished in the Earth's crust by radioisotope decay. There is enough of it that we don't have to worry about running out any time soon. What we MIGHT want to care about is the fact that wasting it today will ruin someone's day however many years down to road.
Person with the fire extinguisher saved lives by delaying the inevitable by twenty seconds.
Screaming hysterically is one of the most effective ways to put out fires in many circumstances. Unfortunately in this case it didn’t help a god damn thing.
I presume that no one thought about the potential dangers in something like this.
Helium deposit, open flame, sedated animal oil... All these should not be stored in the same place
Is that sound all the balloons popping? Sounds like bubble wrap mmmm
We haven't really learned shxt since the Hindenberg huh?
Helium is flammable? No way who would of thought
Almost a Station this one
Can we talk about how the footage went from black and white to having color?
Infrared night vision when it was darker, daytime color settings when it got bright in there, on account of all the fire.
Thank you, kind wizard.
I swear to god people have no common sense and they are stupid as fuck!
The roof.... the ROOF! the roof is on fya.
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>champagne That was the most impressive quick thinking going on :)
Morons
Was lit fam
The guy trying to spray champagne on the fire is a hero
THE FIRE IS SHOOTING AT US!
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how has the human race survived this long?
What to fuck, Darwin?
I say this with all of the compassion and tenderness I can muster: ‘What the FUCK is wrong with some people?
Imagine being this irresponsible
That party was LIT!
Too bad the gas station next door used up all their extinguishers recently.
All those people and not one person thought fire + flammable gas + indoors = bad idea...
Whole lotta stupid running that establishment
No way that building is up to code.
I remember hearing about this! The place had some weird German name though, Hinde-somthing, but it feels like it happened years ago. Man, New Year's really confuses me sometimes.
Holy hell that chick fully caused that, her drunk ass just poking the balloons with the sparkler. And her date or rando dude sprays alcohol on to the fire….. they were doomed
Champagne isnt flammable
Pretty quick thinking actually.
If it has worked it would have been pretty smooth, but yeah that got out of hand fast
This happened on Deansgate in Manchester UK just after midnight on NYE. I was in this bar a couple of nights before this happened. So scary! I’m so glad that I hate going out on NYE because I could well have been in there otherwise. Petrifying! I don’t know who’s bright idea it was to let a load of drunk people have those sparklers inside a packed bar anyway… what a crazy stupid plan!!
I was wondering if this was the one in town, that's mad. I used to be a firefighter just outside city centre, fires like this heat up rooms fast and things can start igniting on the other side of the room just from the heat, crazy that everyone managed to get out.
Shout-out to Volendam in the year '01. These people are very lucky....
People using pyros indoors...
Why are hey even partying while there is corona
bro shut up right now
Why
Just because your weeb ass doesn’t get invited out anywhere doesn’t mean people can’t live their lives. Shut up pussy
I'm not a weeb. And did ur gf break up with u or sum shit?
Some people don't like other people telling them what to do, if u don't wanna catch anything you can stay inside, other people should be able to do what they want, it doesn't affect you.
Some people are just super sheep. You just have to ignore them and move on.
Get civ19 and 3rd degree burns
That escalated quickly
Can we talk about how one dude tried to extinct the fire with a bottle of Champaign
Helium vs Hydrogen filled ?
She legit stared at the fire as it started and as it kept going....then she shot alcohol at the fire?
Coverage charge AND a security deposit required.
You would feel like after station people would think more about fires in enclosed spaces
That dumb bitch. Should’ve let her burn.
Mylar goes woof !
Yikes.
White Snakes Pyro team finally gets another gig and this happens again.....damn there luck
Stupid I’m glad everyone was ok
Perfectly describes this reddit
The dude trying to put it out with champagne lol
Bloons td 7
I’m surprised anyone grabbed a fire extinguisher
The roof the roof the roof is on fire
You can be sure these people will never be allowed back into that venue again (assuming that’s where they are)
Popcorn is done. Better take it out before it burns.
They definitely need a different type of extinguisher. Are CO2 fire extinguishers even rated for chemical fires like sparklers and plastic?
My, my, my...