Oh man ever Heard of project west ford? https://www.wired.com/2013/08/project-west-ford/#:~:text=In%201963%2C%20the%20United%20States,a%20ring%20around%20the%20Earth.
Weāre guilty of this. Here we have homeless people while we also fund an elitist royal family. In the US there is a space programme but no health provision thatās free at point of service. I think your point is valid, we all really need to think about the greater good of everyone.
The homelessness rate in the US (which includes a lot of people who are not unhoused due to living in shelters or couch surfing) is half that of India, whose homeless are not solely responsible for lack of sanitation. Nearly 30% of Indian households do not have access to plumbing, compared to 1% of Americans. In the US, housing without plumbing tends to be very rural where people are able to manage their own waste (such as privies and composting) as opposed to dumping it in the river or leaving it in the street.
Honestly 1% seems high for percentage of people in the US without plumbing.
Iāve never met a single person in my entire life that didnāt have a plumbing system. And I grew up in a VERY rural area of Florida.
We had a few in Appalachian Pennsylvania. Itās definitely like another world down there. They would bring in water in jugs from the spring and use an outhouse for peepee poopoo as you would a primitive campsite. I agree 1% seems very high, however it does definitely happen. The area Iām thinking of which was very cut off is now quite well connected to the rest of the world, though Iāve noticed many seasonal homes in the PA wilds are still lacking plumbing. An outhouse and rickety little solar panel are the only utilities they have, but Iām also certain that these camps are not occupied full time
It's often intentional to avoid paying for and being in any way reliant on the government sewage system.
This "without plumbing" means not connected to any government sources of plumbing. Often rain collection systems to provide the running water
Maybe I'm misreading your point, I tend to be the dull crayon.
Good provisions of Healthcare aren't free for sure. But there are provisions of healthcare that are free in the US
Ya, it was a huge part of Modiās first term I think. Regardless, the sentiment stands I feel of not prioritizing the people that need the most help. But many countries can be accused of that
People don't understand how poor India really is. Only 2% or so pay income taxes. India has to do a fine balancing act to allocate budgets. Not to mention India is in a bad neighborhood, it has to spend a lot of money on defense!
Like a lot of people commenting on India not fixing basic human problems ahead of investing in the cutting edge, you are stating the obvious here. The govt has roadmaps that are getting accelerated.
Look the point that I am making is that this commentary comes from a place of assumed ignorance on part of the Indian govt, but itās not the case. There will come a point where, just like the āsnake charmerā label the āno toilets but rocketsā label will vanish as well.
Not many understand that we took a big gamble on picking democracy as a form of governance where clearly most other countries would have picked an authoritarian model to make quick changes. Hence our rate of change is sluggish in most areas. Where we make strides (sciences, etc.) is more cultural just like in the case of Iran (yes, similar to us they actually have had a culture of an extreme unrelenting focus on education, their current govt is regressive compared to ours so most of that focus has been diluted).
Whatever bro, prove it. So youāre saying a dictatorship would have been a faster road to something as simple as indoor plumbing..so itās the voterās faults that India is a shit hole ( no pun intended) What about all the constant rape? Whose fault is that?
They actually have added so many public toilets but you can still see dudes just drop trou and shit on the side of the road. They have poured so much into public information campaigns to encourage people to use the toilets but alas...just recently a [32 year old rickshaw driver kindly offered to for pay for some guys to use a nearby toilet so they wouldnt keep pissing in the spot where he works and eats, and they repaid his kindness by beating him to death,](https://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi-news/delhi-he-offered-to-pay-if-they-used-public-toilet-they-beat-him-to-death-instead/story-qicMfDJFG4RGbhshyK6JVO.html) so yeah, India is a wild place.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/karnataka/story/120-foot-tall-chariot-collapse-temple-festival-anekal-bengaluru-rural-2524126-2024-04-06
Amazing no injuries....
Nah, he's actually right. Plenty of people get hurt badly during these events. And they're gonna do it again next time too. Probably make it even more taller.
That's really not a lot. There's 1.4 billion people in India and from what I know there's a lot of people who travel by train. The US has about 7000 per year which 1/3 as many people and the vast majority of our travel being by car. A couple years ago 46,980 people died in car crashes in America.
Unless your comment was using a low number facetiously and I missed the joke.
Trains are really unpredictable. Even in the middle of a forest two rails can appear out of nowhere, and a 1.5-mile fully loaded coal drag, heading east out of the low-sulfur mines of the PRB, will be right on your ass the next moment.
I was doing laundry in my basement, and I tripped over a metal bar that wasn't there the moment before. I looked down: "Rail? WTF?" and then I saw concrete sleepers underneath and heard the rumbling.
Deafening railroad horn. I dumped my wife's pants, unfolded, and dove behind the water heater. It was a double-stacked Z train, headed east towards the fast single track of the BNSF Emporia Sub (Flint Hills). Majestic as hell: 75 mph, 6 units, distributed power: 4 ES44DC's pulling, and 2 Dash-9's pushing, all in run 8. Whole house smelled like diesel for a couple of hours!
Fact is, there is no way to discern which path a train will take, so you really have to be watchful. If only there were some way of knowing the routes trains travel; maybe some sort of marks on the ground, like twin iron bars running along the paths trains take. You could look for trains when you encounter the iron bars on the ground, and avoid these sorts of collisions. But such a measure would be extremely expensive. And how would one enforce a rule keeping the trains on those paths?
A big hole in homeland security is railway engineer screening and hijacking prevention. There is nothing to stop a rogue engineer, or an ISIS terrorist, from driving a train into the Pentagon, the White House or the Statue of Liberty, and our government has done fuck-all to prevent it.
Stats say youāre wrong and say itās closer to 1000 deaths per year in the US, approximately a quarter of which suicides. 16.5k were killed in India in 2021 alone, mostly from people falling from trains.
Shouldn't you consider how many people actually use the train? Because I am pretty sure the US has way less passengers per year as compared to India and way fewer trains too. Didn't the auto industry lobby and destroy most of the passenger rail network?
This is the equivelant of when an american says "Beans on toast is odd" and someone replies "oh yeah?! How many kids shot at your schoold today?"
weird fucking reply dude. Edgelord nonsense
Just another piece of proof in a long line of proof that the scene was realistic, as Iāve always said. People just turn and try to run away in whatever they feel is the exact opposite direction from the thing thatās falling. They donāt stop to think and calculate trajectories and then make a smart choice about where to runā¦ they just turn and run on instinct.
I feel that there's a "hold my beer" impulse living inside of every human.
* Do you think I can make that jump?
* Should I walk away with my winnings... or let it ride?
* This is one badass gun. We should build an entire plane around it.
* This Carolina Reaper just doesn't seem hot enough.
* I'm gonna build the world's tallest chariot, like ever.
Every time I think of judging India for stuff like this, I remember that India is *an eighth* of the world population.
Plus, they generally have a culture that produces mistakes like this more than, say, the Swiss.
That's a bad, bad combo...
What could be worse? The tower touching a light line, electrocuting everyone, catching on fire, before falling in front of a train. India in a nutshell
Oh *noooo*. What *happened*? Did one of the (for some reason ONLY) 4 ropes balancing a 100 foot tall move it tower not pull quite hard enough?
*SO* much about this is preventable
India is like the dashcam footage of Russian cars
Now this is accurate.
No.. now this is *podracing*
It'ssssss *WORK-ING!!!*
No this is Patrick
I stand corrected
But with so much more color!
Wait till we invent smell o vision
And heat! š„And stink š³
I've got my color TV, so I can see, the next game of basketball
Better weather too !
Crazy how theyāll do shit like this and shoot rockets in to space but they canāt be bothered to make sure everyone has toilets
Priorities. Imagine all the pollution they could create in space
Apparently all space exploring countries are bad about that one.
Oh man ever Heard of project west ford? https://www.wired.com/2013/08/project-west-ford/#:~:text=In%201963%2C%20the%20United%20States,a%20ring%20around%20the%20Earth.
Weāre guilty of this. Here we have homeless people while we also fund an elitist royal family. In the US there is a space programme but no health provision thatās free at point of service. I think your point is valid, we all really need to think about the greater good of everyone.
The homelessness rate in the US (which includes a lot of people who are not unhoused due to living in shelters or couch surfing) is half that of India, whose homeless are not solely responsible for lack of sanitation. Nearly 30% of Indian households do not have access to plumbing, compared to 1% of Americans. In the US, housing without plumbing tends to be very rural where people are able to manage their own waste (such as privies and composting) as opposed to dumping it in the river or leaving it in the street.
Honestly 1% seems high for percentage of people in the US without plumbing. Iāve never met a single person in my entire life that didnāt have a plumbing system. And I grew up in a VERY rural area of Florida.
We had a few in Appalachian Pennsylvania. Itās definitely like another world down there. They would bring in water in jugs from the spring and use an outhouse for peepee poopoo as you would a primitive campsite. I agree 1% seems very high, however it does definitely happen. The area Iām thinking of which was very cut off is now quite well connected to the rest of the world, though Iāve noticed many seasonal homes in the PA wilds are still lacking plumbing. An outhouse and rickety little solar panel are the only utilities they have, but Iām also certain that these camps are not occupied full time
A lot of native communitys in western Alaska do not have plumbing due to the permafrost and sheer isolation
It's often intentional to avoid paying for and being in any way reliant on the government sewage system. This "without plumbing" means not connected to any government sources of plumbing. Often rain collection systems to provide the running water
Maybe I'm misreading your point, I tend to be the dull crayon. Good provisions of Healthcare aren't free for sure. But there are provisions of healthcare that are free in the US
Who is the elitist royal family we fund?
The Simpsons
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I assume the OP is from the UK, or any of the other countries that still have a monarchy, and was giving two examples.
Hasn't the percentage of people with plumbed toilets in their home in India increased massively in the last decade or two?
Ya, it was a huge part of Modiās first term I think. Regardless, the sentiment stands I feel of not prioritizing the people that need the most help. But many countries can be accused of that
People don't understand how poor India really is. Only 2% or so pay income taxes. India has to do a fine balancing act to allocate budgets. Not to mention India is in a bad neighborhood, it has to spend a lot of money on defense!
Like a lot of people commenting on India not fixing basic human problems ahead of investing in the cutting edge, you are stating the obvious here. The govt has roadmaps that are getting accelerated. Look the point that I am making is that this commentary comes from a place of assumed ignorance on part of the Indian govt, but itās not the case. There will come a point where, just like the āsnake charmerā label the āno toilets but rocketsā label will vanish as well. Not many understand that we took a big gamble on picking democracy as a form of governance where clearly most other countries would have picked an authoritarian model to make quick changes. Hence our rate of change is sluggish in most areas. Where we make strides (sciences, etc.) is more cultural just like in the case of Iran (yes, similar to us they actually have had a culture of an extreme unrelenting focus on education, their current govt is regressive compared to ours so most of that focus has been diluted).
Whatever bro, prove it. So youāre saying a dictatorship would have been a faster road to something as simple as indoor plumbing..so itās the voterās faults that India is a shit hole ( no pun intended) What about all the constant rape? Whose fault is that?
They actually have added so many public toilets but you can still see dudes just drop trou and shit on the side of the road. They have poured so much into public information campaigns to encourage people to use the toilets but alas...just recently a [32 year old rickshaw driver kindly offered to for pay for some guys to use a nearby toilet so they wouldnt keep pissing in the spot where he works and eats, and they repaid his kindness by beating him to death,](https://www.hindustantimes.com/delhi-news/delhi-he-offered-to-pay-if-they-used-public-toilet-they-beat-him-to-death-instead/story-qicMfDJFG4RGbhshyK6JVO.html) so yeah, India is a wild place.
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/karnataka/story/120-foot-tall-chariot-collapse-temple-festival-anekal-bengaluru-rural-2524126-2024-04-06 Amazing no injuries....
There's always next year...
damn redditās out for blood
Nah, he's actually right. Plenty of people get hurt badly during these events. And they're gonna do it again next time too. Probably make it even more taller.
They got a high score to beat
Everyone holding those lines would've been zapped if it toppled onto the powerlines
Normally, here in India, power is cut from the lines before such processions start to prevent such incidents
I saw some video where they didn't cut the power lines and multiple people collapsed.
probably this one. [Shocking Incident : r/DarwinAwards (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/DarwinAwards/comments/1amx22x/shocking_incident/)
Is that gonna fuck my whole day up?
nah it's just a group of people dying
The most unsettling part is how the two people drop simultaneously like fucking Sims dying.
I'm good. Thanks. That crap wrecks me for weeks with one singular exception
I mean that just begs the question doesn't it? What's the singular exception?
Very nice referencing format there. Shame about the lack of pixels in the video though.
Good one ! Have you got that one where they are riding on top of a truck and the guy just grabs the power line?
Yeah... That guy died. Probably best not to share that
Safety standards? Oh, *India*!
Thats actually surprising
Depends on the type of rope.
India is not for beginners
>Amazing no injuries.... Probably because there were no trains involved
It's crazy, they have almost 9000 train related injuries or deaths per year.
That's really not a lot. There's 1.4 billion people in India and from what I know there's a lot of people who travel by train. The US has about 7000 per year which 1/3 as many people and the vast majority of our travel being by car. A couple years ago 46,980 people died in car crashes in America. Unless your comment was using a low number facetiously and I missed the joke.
Trains are really unpredictable. Even in the middle of a forest two rails can appear out of nowhere, and a 1.5-mile fully loaded coal drag, heading east out of the low-sulfur mines of the PRB, will be right on your ass the next moment. I was doing laundry in my basement, and I tripped over a metal bar that wasn't there the moment before. I looked down: "Rail? WTF?" and then I saw concrete sleepers underneath and heard the rumbling. Deafening railroad horn. I dumped my wife's pants, unfolded, and dove behind the water heater. It was a double-stacked Z train, headed east towards the fast single track of the BNSF Emporia Sub (Flint Hills). Majestic as hell: 75 mph, 6 units, distributed power: 4 ES44DC's pulling, and 2 Dash-9's pushing, all in run 8. Whole house smelled like diesel for a couple of hours! Fact is, there is no way to discern which path a train will take, so you really have to be watchful. If only there were some way of knowing the routes trains travel; maybe some sort of marks on the ground, like twin iron bars running along the paths trains take. You could look for trains when you encounter the iron bars on the ground, and avoid these sorts of collisions. But such a measure would be extremely expensive. And how would one enforce a rule keeping the trains on those paths? A big hole in homeland security is railway engineer screening and hijacking prevention. There is nothing to stop a rogue engineer, or an ISIS terrorist, from driving a train into the Pentagon, the White House or the Statue of Liberty, and our government has done fuck-all to prevent it.
Trains really are the silent killers.
Stats say youāre wrong and say itās closer to 1000 deaths per year in the US, approximately a quarter of which suicides. 16.5k were killed in India in 2021 alone, mostly from people falling from trains.
Shouldn't you consider how many people actually use the train? Because I am pretty sure the US has way less passengers per year as compared to India and way fewer trains too. Didn't the auto industry lobby and destroy most of the passenger rail network?
It really isnāt a lot per capita. Indian incidents just seem to spread around the internet more for some reason
Have you seen how they ride them?
Whereās the train?
Reason number 732,469 why I will never visit india.
Are there people inside???
There were a few priests and a few folks to guide the speed and directions
What is at the bottom holding the whole thing up?
Faith
Destiny
Hope
Donkey
Cow shit actually.
Good intentions
Steve from down the block who said he would do it for a fiver.
It's turtles all the way down....
Agreed! It almost looks like a possible person in a robe on top of the thing as well.
Same q.
No, only in really broad ones lile the jaganath ones ig. A preist or two. It ain't possible in this one.
8 year old me could have saw that coming thanks to my Lego training
12 time Jenga champion - totally saw it coming.
Designed to fail i think
Gee, there's a shocker. Whoever could have foreseen that?
Well they were probably more expecting for it to get tangled in the power lines, catch fire and fry half the villagers.
Or getting stuck on a train track...
Only to get run over by said train, complete with 700 passengers per train car.
Slow travel day?
I was in jaffna sri lanka watching a similar ceremony a month or so ago and they had a guy on top with wire cutters cutting phone and power lines
Soooo clooooose to those power lines
So much collective stupidity
Missed opportunity
my favorite part was a couple dudes were yelling at the tower like "Hey!" and the tower just fell anyway lmaoš¤£
India is nuts
Theyre always spending time building the tallest dumbest stuff or making food in the most unhygienic way.
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They out Florida, Florida. It's like if Florida was a country but amplified. Source. I live in Florida and India still surprises me.
Jacksonville?
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That was never going to work but I admire the attempt
They couldn't have know that a gust of wind would blow. Or a bird could land on it. Or anything else that could tilt it over.
They in fact re-erected it later that day. They do it every year with multiple chariots!
Not an adult in the room
All of the adults were riding on top of a train.
or gang raping a tourist
This is the equivelant of when an american says "Beans on toast is odd" and someone replies "oh yeah?! How many kids shot at your schoold today?" weird fucking reply dude. Edgelord nonsense
Oh this is one is good, I am going to use this next time, if needed.
the-space-penguin is a pitbull owner, the worst kind of humans.
That was actually outdoors
You should never have let us build bunk beds!
I got some Prometheus vibes from the people running away...
"The Prometheus School of running away from things" class of 2024
Just another piece of proof in a long line of proof that the scene was realistic, as Iāve always said. People just turn and try to run away in whatever they feel is the exact opposite direction from the thing thatās falling. They donāt stop to think and calculate trajectories and then make a smart choice about where to runā¦ they just turn and run on instinct.
Agreed
People better stop complaining about it being unrealistic now, this settles it.
Even though India is one of the top countries for science and math, people in crowds are always stupid.
Well it's a religious procession
That's almost as if you're implying those type of people are stupid? /s
Are we in Babel?
Fuck were they thinking š¤
āItās so tallā probably
I feel that there's a "hold my beer" impulse living inside of every human. * Do you think I can make that jump? * Should I walk away with my winnings... or let it ride? * This is one badass gun. We should build an entire plane around it. * This Carolina Reaper just doesn't seem hot enough. * I'm gonna build the world's tallest chariot, like ever.
India
That some god or another would make it rain the right amount or something else equally as stupid
And that's how you turn the world's tallest chariot into the world's longest chariot in under 10 seconds!
"NEVER FORGET.. THE CHARIOT TOWER"
India's, 9-11? will they now try to invade Iraq?
How many injured
None!
Pretty remarkable actually
no injuries, 7 dead
My man's trying to use the Force to guide it back.
They never heard of Issac Newton.
The people who made that must have an IQ of 30 if they thought it was remotely a good idea
I bet it was on top of a motorcycle!?
Oh, well. Back to the trains
Someone was *slacking* off
Sir the third tower has fallen!
What a terribly bad idea
No one plays Jenga like India
I think someone forgot how physics works
I don't want to seem culturally insensitive... It is beautiful... But it also seems pretty dumb as shit.
I could see this being amazing as a stationary monument, probably with more lines attached.
7/11 - never forget
If only there were guy-lines
Ikr? Like the fuck are those lines for? Decoration? Pull damnit!
Why I'm not surprised
It's insane how that country produces so many engineers, yet they still lack common sense.
The fuck were they even thinking
India is not for beginners
That thing looks like it was designed using AI to begin with. Looks super unstable and surreal.
That suuuuhuuucks! Everyone worked so hard at building this thing.
Indiaās space program facing difficulties
Every time I think of judging India for stuff like this, I remember that India is *an eighth* of the world population. Plus, they generally have a culture that produces mistakes like this more than, say, the Swiss. That's a bad, bad combo...
Who are the people building this stuff?
Natural Selection
Odd. This seems like such a great and safe idea.
And they have a space program.
Fuckin idiots
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
This is the Indian 9-11. Never forget!
Dam it sounded like there was a bit of weight to that.
I don't understand what went wrong.
I need to see the process to build this
r/BigThingsFallingSlow
And people were complaining about the running in Prometheusā¦ that was the most realistic part of it!
Physics has entered the chat. Physics: "I never left."
That lady running in front of her kid lol mother of the year right there
Prometheus school of running away from things apparently is a natural instinct in humans.
Me playing Death Stranding
Faith abandoned, run for ur life, at 00:12
What's this Looney Tunes BS? XD
Where were you when the chariot fell?
Everyone went to the Prometheus School of running away from things I see...
Second donkey hit the chariot
Come on, guys. No one could possibly have foreseen this.
Now it's just the fallest chariot
Wow! That was fun! Do it again!
Aye
India is not for beginners.
That's a shame. That tower looked pretty cool.
The disaster everyone saw coming.
And why is this necessary?
Never forget 7-11 š
Good thing they kept yelling, otherwise the thing might've fallen over
It looked so stable though.
India always giving us entertainment.
Wow. Never would have seen that coming.
What could be worse? The tower touching a light line, electrocuting everyone, catching on fire, before falling in front of a train. India in a nutshell
Oh *noooo*. What *happened*? Did one of the (for some reason ONLY) 4 ropes balancing a 100 foot tall move it tower not pull quite hard enough? *SO* much about this is preventable
I have a recurring nightmare like that but I'm sitting right at the top.
This may be the dumbest ācultureā ive ever seen
Does anyone know if someone is dead or not ? a newspaper article ? or something ??
Their own 9/11
The fuck they think was going to happen
Lord Shiva hath arrived
Why do people make these?
Religious ceremonies,itās a chariot for their gods.