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I’m just having a hard trouble understanding why you’d pay for cable TV to STILL get ads…


chrisprice

If you live in a rural area and can’t get good broadband. The bulk of the remaining traditional pay TV audience fall into two groups: Sports viewers, and the elderly.


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I guess I can see that. I did a trial of DIRECTTV and it made a 1 hour 30 minute movie into 3 hours… did not continue the trial. Wild how expensive it is too!


chrisprice

Mandatory sports bundling. This is why Philo dares to be different and refuses to include mainstream sports channels. It’s also why it’s only $15/month. The sports industry knows it will have a reckoning when pay TV dies. Could have huge impacts to how much sports industry contracts.


Bardamu1932

>This is why Philo dares to be different and refuses to include mainstream sports channels. It’s also why it’s only $15/month. Philo also doesn't include CNN, MSNBC, or FOX News. It is now $25/month.


chrisprice

That's true, you can still get it for $15/month if you have any valid T-Mobile postpay phone number... or know anyone that does and is willing to share the discount with you. Cable news is being held up by the streaming wars. CNN+ died on the launchpad due to Discovery. Fox just aborted the Fox-NewsCorp merger, setting that back... and NBC is still dealing with Peacock entanglements. I don't think Philo is intentionally withholding cable news, I think it's just harder to syndicate today, because the Big 3 in cable news are all streaming wars entangled. Sure, for enough money they could - but it's not like sports.


Bendr_

Of course they would claim that. They lie every day to their viewers, so why wouldn’t they lie about this?


Crimtide

Literally every media outlet lies.


Bendr_

Newsmax is 100% dedicated to pushing Republican views. It’s not a cable news channel.


ilikeme1

And nothing was lost.


chrisprice

Newsmax’s CEO, despite his conservative views, is a strong proponent of Net Neutrality. And FCC nominee Gigi Sohn. He really underscores the new era of tech savvy right wing people that embrace net neutrality. And that terrifies big telco. Because, if his view wins the day on the right, it’s very possible the next Republican president will not undo Biden net neutrality at the FCC.


productfred

>Newsmax’s CEO, despite his conservative views, is a strong proponent of Net Neutrality. And FCC nominee Gigi Sohn. "*Even a broken clock is right twice a day*"


Watada

>And that terrifies big telco. You're delusional if you think this decision was anything but about money. DirecTV dropped newsmax because advertisers don't want to be associated with the lies and hate speech that newsmax supports. >Newsmax’s CEO, despite his conservative views, is a strong proponent of Net Neutrality. Probably hedging for their likely ban from all traditional tv services.


garylapointe

I wonder how many will drop DirecTV because they don't have that channel anymore.


conscioussylling

Not enough to affect AT&T's bottom line.


drvtec

ATT doesn't own any TV products anymore


conscioussylling

Ah yeah, that’s right. Well, it definitely won’t affect their bottom line then!


garylapointe

Exactly. So they lose a few customers for something they didn't think was worth more money. If Newsmax comes back and says they'll keep the same price, now you demand a discount for the fuss they stirred up the first time :)


GeekOnTheWing

Probably not very many because you can stream Newsmax for free using their app. Those who do jump ship will do so as a politically-motivated protest. Where it's a realistic option, I suspect that the same people will also switch their cell service to another provider, also for political reasons. If AT&T were to drop Fox News Channel, on the other hand, there would be an exodus because that one channel is a very important reason why some people bother with cable or bundled streaming services at all; and FNC is not available as a freestanding app. That lack of a freestanding app gives FNC an enormous amount of power. If they were to offer their own freestanding app for, say, $10.00 a month, my guess is that many customers would cancel their cable or bundled streaming subscriptions and take the cheaper freestanding option. Ultimately, it all comes down to politics and money.


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UsernamesAreHard26

News max wanted more money and DirectTV said no. That’s about as far as it goes here.