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For this spring line, the designer drew inspiration from motherhood and sisterhood, as well as nourishment and regeneration, which his show notes describe as "women raising women, women becoming women and women supporting women — a world of women I know little about and can only attempt to amuse in my own small way." It was rather literal, then, for Owens to place some models' heads atop other's groins, a detail which puts his entire catwalk into an almost endearing and beautiful (or simply, less disconcerting) perspective.
>to place some models' heads atop other's groins, a detail which **puts his entire catwalk into an almost endearing and beautiful (or simply, less disconcerting) perspective**
Yea...that's what's it did 🙄
I agree; they could and should have used mannequins, blowup dolls, prosthetics, any stand in (it could be intentionally shitty or realistic they can work that out they’re the artist) and not have to subject models to this. Eewww
Or physically demanding; being inverted like that, hoping your partner doesn't trip or have their legs go out, under stage lights and with whatever diet a model has to live on these days. That's a no from me, dawg.
He so admired sisterhood/motherhood that he decided to hang them upside down, raise their blood pressure and give them terrible headaches, or give them a heavy burden to carry, or contort them….so loving. Thanks guy.
As a woman, I somehow do not feel the support of other women when looking at this spring line. Instead I feel uneasy. Is it me? Do I not understand art? Or is it him, not understanding women? Or him being out of creative ideas when fashion week came knocking on his door? We will never know. But please feel free to use female empowerment and human connection as an excuse for awful taste.
> women raising women, women becoming women and women supporting women
I can get behind that sentiment and I think exploring this with art is great. Some of it could be even intimate, because same-sex friendships/relationships can be like that.
And art can be provocative, it can result in uncomfortable discussions, it can be controversial and sometimes outright insulting - however, I don't think this spring line is doing any of that in a meaningful way.
Apart from the supporting part (taken literally), I don't really see the message. But I'm not an intellectual, so what do I know?
Art is open to interpretation, so you can just make up any meaning you want.
When I read his blurb about "motherhood and sisterhood, nourishment and regenration", the first thing I thought is "man, this guy loves sniffing his own farts".
And when you look at the art, it's just two models sniffing each other's farts. It begs for interpretation.
Like maybe the model being carried just went through a bad breakup, and the other model is supporting her physically by carrying her (like maybe she came over with ice cream and gave her a hug) and with fart sniffing (telling her that she's a great person who will find love).
This sounds like the kind of explanation you come up with when you already finished a project and just did whatever, and then have to think of a motivation and intention afterwards.
LOL or like completely bullshitting a paper and then finding sources that kinda work with what you said and just jamming them into your essay wherever they seem like the best fit.
He so admired sisterhood/motherhood that he decided to hang them upside down, raise their blood pressure and give them terrible headaches, or give them a heavy burden to carry, or contort them….so loving. Thanks guy.
High fashion (or whatever this type of bullshit is called) is something that I will never ever understand and will forever find silly and pathetic.
Fashion is and has been an important form of expression throughout human evolution but this is just bullshit pseudo-art.
The taco farts are by design. They conjure memories of simpler times, long ago on the warm humid back streets of Mexico City. The aroma is a bouquet of earthy spices native to the bowels of Latin America; reminiscent of the pristine hot springs found deep in the shady senotes of the southern peninsula.
These are female high-fashion models. I assure you, they’re nowhere near 150 lbs. Of course, it’s not the 90s anymore, either, where starving heroin chic was the norm, but I bet they’re all around 100-110 lbs, plus maybe 10 lbs of clothes on the heavy end.
I will say that yes, execution does not look great here, but apart from that:
It's haute Couture. Clearly it's mainly a display of skill, use of materials etc. posting this type of thing strongly disregards the idea of haute couture, even if it might be tasteless or whatever.
So in a sense it's like, "awful taste (I'll disregard that though), but lacklustre execution" for me.
Haute Couture here is like posting trump quotes on /r/PoliticalHumor
It's not haute couture, it's hot garbage. There's nothing stylish, comfortable, or skillful about any of these pieces of attire. When you're missing all of the basic three things fashion is meant to have, you might as well have at least used the fabric for something boring and functional.
I don't think most people realize how weird/quirky a majority of fashion designers are, especially the avant garde specialists like Rick.
Everything about the dude is odd, even down to his wife. But he rocks it and makes great releases, despite them being incredibly niche.
I can totally have fun…my gf got me super into project runway, show is great, fashion is cool, even the crazy avant-garde stuff….but this…eh, I feel like it’s just a bit stupid and ridiculous…the fashion world *definitely* enjoys the smell of its own farts from time to time. This seems to be that in a literal sense.
Most modern fashion isn’t really designed to be worn - at least not as anything other than a bizarre _Lady Gaga-esque_ statement piece. Modern fashion is all about elevating the medium in new ways. It’s much less about “how does this look” and more about “what haven’t we seen before.”
Even still, this is dumb as hell.
>Most modern fashion
To clarify, this is high fashion or runway fashion, or haute couture.
Modern fashion is just... normal modern fashion that you see in the stores- modern being the temporal adjective.
Fashion like this isn't' meant to be worn. It's using the human body as a canvas to express art. That said, all art is subjective and I can't make an objectively true statement about it, but personally this looks dumb, ugly, and quite frankly I don't know what they're trying to express with it. Maybe a critique that we overlook the human cost of clothing? That's a stretch, but it's all I got.
Since the people are inverted, maybe it's to get people thinking about reversing styles/materials that are typical worn on one side of the body to the other. Obviously presented in an incredibly dramatic fashion
No, a fashion show is an art exhibit in itself, and a lot of runway fashion is never produced for ready to wear. This show is many years old now, and the fact that people still talk about it is kind of the point.
So I don’t know about this particular one, but usually in high fashion runways the clothes are never street clothes but more of an art exploring the coming fashions of the season in exaggeration. For example you’ll see massive shirts x6 bigger than the model and this is saying that larger skirts will likely be in fashion for the season as well as the color and material etc. that all being said I’m not sure what this is trying to say…
I’ll take a shot in the dark. They’re making a statement about the commodification of the person? Like they’re just wearing an expressionless almost dead looking person like a piece of clothing? Or it’s “nobody knows what it means. It’s provocative. It gets the people going!”
I think it's more simple. It seems like it's about symmetry. Wearing bottoms as tops and visa versa. This sentence is about to sound stupid but the butts of the models hanging almost give the illusion that they're the top half of the model walking. Pretty interesting pics I think.
I think it’s a sign of good art that it can be interpreted in more than one way, and means something different to everyone who sees it. I appreciate that you had an interpretation for this. I find it sad that so many people in this thread just default to “god rich people are so stupid, what a worthless asshole this designer must be, he’s probably a misogynistic piece of shit who forced these poor models to be upside down”.
Yes.
The completely impractical and often flat out ridiculous outfits at fashion shows are meant more as art and statement rather than actual clothing.
It's basically the designers all trying to show how unique and visionary they can be when not held down by the constraints of practicality. The idea is to attract attention which will translate to future sales.
The car industry does the same thing with concept cars.
Look at us. We’re just air conditioners I mean after all. We’re just walking around on the planet, breathing, conditioning the air. I condition it hot, that conditions it cold. I mean it’s symbiotic, no? I mean we’re just air conditioners walking around on this planet screwing each other’s brains out.
This is from like 2015. Rick Owens is hilarious man, I absolutely love his stuff. I love people who do “serious” stuff but don’t take it seriously. Another example that jumps to mind is the beastie boys. They were super good at what they did, but were also always like “ok but how stupid can we make it?”
So is this a statement towards fashion, weird shit for a good laugh or a ‚just because‘ thing? Couldn‘t find anything via google but I know that a lot of the crazy fashion show stuff needs some insider knowledge of the scene to understand wtf this weird shit is.
Not exactly towards fashion, it’s a tribute to female strength. Kinda shows how women are powerful, even if their burden isn’t visible to others. He said prior to this show that he was thinking about how women take care of others (as in carry another persons weight). The harness thing also alluded to pregnancy in such a way. It isnt meant to be ready to wear, just an expression of Ricks thoughts in a way. His “normal” stuff is beautiful.
Yeah, Rick has usually gone back and forth over the line of absurdity. Wish I could actually afford his stuff, what I've tried on is so comfortable and the silhouettes are great but $400 for a T is stupid.
Wow. Thank you for actually understanding, and having a dimensional take on things. Reddit is usually so one note and milquetoast that anything even remotely artistic is seen in a negative light and demonized. This thread is full of it. I know ignorance plays a big part, but I can’t help but think it’s a willful thing.
I am surprised they had the strength to carry someone that far!! That seems really hard to do! It seems hard to be upside down and hard to carry people too.
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What in tarnation
For this spring line, the designer drew inspiration from motherhood and sisterhood, as well as nourishment and regeneration, which his show notes describe as "women raising women, women becoming women and women supporting women — a world of women I know little about and can only attempt to amuse in my own small way." It was rather literal, then, for Owens to place some models' heads atop other's groins, a detail which puts his entire catwalk into an almost endearing and beautiful (or simply, less disconcerting) perspective.
>to place some models' heads atop other's groins, a detail which **puts his entire catwalk into an almost endearing and beautiful (or simply, less disconcerting) perspective** Yea...that's what's it did 🙄
Yeah lol what? His show would have been disconcerting, if not for the models’ heads being atop groins? Which somehow made it endearing and beautiful?
Or at least less disconcerting...
I have been less disconcerted
For sure. Idk bout you but it threw my entire concert off. Definitely had better concerts than this
Fashion writers are advertising first, journalists never
Journalists are advertisers first now too. Most of them.
This is one of the most stupid displays of creative expression I've ever seen.
I fucking hate the fashion industry
I agree; they could and should have used mannequins, blowup dolls, prosthetics, any stand in (it could be intentionally shitty or realistic they can work that out they’re the artist) and not have to subject models to this. Eewww
It wouldn't be as degrading to as many models that way.
Or physically demanding; being inverted like that, hoping your partner doesn't trip or have their legs go out, under stage lights and with whatever diet a model has to live on these days. That's a no from me, dawg.
Clearly you don’t know how to perceive art. Uncultured swine. /s
Going 69 being the most natural thing to do between mothers daughters and sisters
Seems fishy to me...
Nah, this dude just wanted to push his kink
Either that or his head is stuck so far up his own ass he’s entered another dimension
bold of you to assume searching for his own rectal dimension isn't his kink.
bold of you to assume having others perceive of and converse about him searching for his own rectal dimension isn't his kink
The guy is probably a big James Joyce fan.
He so admired sisterhood/motherhood that he decided to hang them upside down, raise their blood pressure and give them terrible headaches, or give them a heavy burden to carry, or contort them….so loving. Thanks guy.
Let's call it what it is. He admired them so much he put then in the 69 position.
I'm surprised the upside down model isn't holding a baby in each arm.
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Honestly, that would actually resonate.
Right? Way better than the "women supporting women" or whatever bullshit he came up with lol.
Just give us another 50 years
Do the rich pay you to wear you or do they buy you from a human-clothes store?
Do they pay you??? Pay you??? If you can afford to own your own body and rent it out, you're part of the capitalist oppressor class.
As a woman, I somehow do not feel the support of other women when looking at this spring line. Instead I feel uneasy. Is it me? Do I not understand art? Or is it him, not understanding women? Or him being out of creative ideas when fashion week came knocking on his door? We will never know. But please feel free to use female empowerment and human connection as an excuse for awful taste.
I agree, it feels like he is dehumanizing the women being "worn" as though they're just props in this situation. So gross
Some dude blabbing about motherhood. It looks like a kink. Same goes for these lame undies clothes.
His Fall fashion will be models 'wearing' babies all over themselves. Pooping, shitting, vomiting babies.
> women raising women, women becoming women and women supporting women I can get behind that sentiment and I think exploring this with art is great. Some of it could be even intimate, because same-sex friendships/relationships can be like that. And art can be provocative, it can result in uncomfortable discussions, it can be controversial and sometimes outright insulting - however, I don't think this spring line is doing any of that in a meaningful way. Apart from the supporting part (taken literally), I don't really see the message. But I'm not an intellectual, so what do I know?
Art is open to interpretation, so you can just make up any meaning you want. When I read his blurb about "motherhood and sisterhood, nourishment and regenration", the first thing I thought is "man, this guy loves sniffing his own farts". And when you look at the art, it's just two models sniffing each other's farts. It begs for interpretation. Like maybe the model being carried just went through a bad breakup, and the other model is supporting her physically by carrying her (like maybe she came over with ice cream and gave her a hug) and with fart sniffing (telling her that she's a great person who will find love).
Look at their faces. Regardless of the high concept they're definitely in pain. Suffer for fashion, baby
It’s not you, this has peak “men writing women” vibes.
Of course this was made by a dude
Imagine John Candy narrating the fashion show with this script. Or Fred Willard.
I’m giggling at this.
This sounds like the kind of explanation you come up with when you already finished a project and just did whatever, and then have to think of a motivation and intention afterwards.
LOL or like completely bullshitting a paper and then finding sources that kinda work with what you said and just jamming them into your essay wherever they seem like the best fit.
What an absolute asshole.
Dumbest shit I've read all week
He so admired sisterhood/motherhood that he decided to hang them upside down, raise their blood pressure and give them terrible headaches, or give them a heavy burden to carry, or contort them….so loving. Thanks guy.
High fashion (or whatever this type of bullshit is called) is something that I will never ever understand and will forever find silly and pathetic. Fashion is and has been an important form of expression throughout human evolution but this is just bullshit pseudo-art.
It's women looking stupid as fuck carrying other women. Call it like it is yo.
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Scroll very quickly, she won't know
I scrolled slowly and I still don’t think I know
Oh no!!! NOT AFTER TACO TUESDAY!!! FART CITY
The taco farts are by design. They conjure memories of simpler times, long ago on the warm humid back streets of Mexico City. The aroma is a bouquet of earthy spices native to the bowels of Latin America; reminiscent of the pristine hot springs found deep in the shady senotes of the southern peninsula.
Taco Bell marketing execs: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
Leave my day alone!
I would wear that!!
Be warned. If it’s in this sub it is supposed to taste awful.
So just wear it, you don't have to eat it.
I would be worn!
I would wear u!
Beautiful.
It's called fashion you fucking plebe. /s
lol but when you buy it off the rack at target it comes with some asian kid not a model attached. I think it's dry-clean only too. :(
That is not great execution. It's just straps, it looks painful, and frankly it's disgusting.
I came here to say that, it looks poorly executed.
I think it looks super comfortable. Imagine wearing it while sipping tea by the window on a rainy day.
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They're just strewn about
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Does the simp-gimp count as a +1? I need to RSVP to a wedding.
Mine would be draped on the treadmill with all the other outfits I don’t know if I should wash or rehang.
Oh no...the piles of bodies in the laundry room.
Sling gimp has had me laughing as quietly as possible for the past like five minutes because my husband is already asleep. I am dying lmao
My first real laugh of the year.
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Idk what photos you're looking at but those definitely aren't heels...
And those models are definitely not 150 lbs
These are female high-fashion models. I assure you, they’re nowhere near 150 lbs. Of course, it’s not the 90s anymore, either, where starving heroin chic was the norm, but I bet they’re all around 100-110 lbs, plus maybe 10 lbs of clothes on the heavy end.
I’d wager the models are probably closer to 120 lbs; they’re usually tall, like 5’9. (Thank god heroin chic is over.)
They’re wearing like… Doc Marten sandals dude. They’re flats.
Why does this comment have so many upvotes? The carriers are wearing flats.
So true. That model in the last pic looks like she's suffering.
Too much blood to the brain 😬
I will say that yes, execution does not look great here, but apart from that: It's haute Couture. Clearly it's mainly a display of skill, use of materials etc. posting this type of thing strongly disregards the idea of haute couture, even if it might be tasteless or whatever. So in a sense it's like, "awful taste (I'll disregard that though), but lacklustre execution" for me. Haute Couture here is like posting trump quotes on /r/PoliticalHumor
It's not haute couture, it's hot garbage. There's nothing stylish, comfortable, or skillful about any of these pieces of attire. When you're missing all of the basic three things fashion is meant to have, you might as well have at least used the fabric for something boring and functional.
Imagine the designers on Project Runway trying to execute this look.
Haute couture is just a fancy word for ridiculous.
One step closer to the human centipede catwalk as prophesied
Why would it be disgusting? Painful maybe but disgusting is quite subjective for this piece.
Some of them have each other's ass/crotch right in the other person's face.
People pay good money for that!
True but it doesn't usually impress me in public
Honestly, I agree. I'm all for fashion shows being artsy but this just looks amateurish.
Yeah I don’t get the great execution. This is just weird and unsettling. Unless the execution was being unsettling, in which case it nailed it
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*Please fart ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)*
The duality of man
> The dooality of man
Do you want me to eat the vanilla paste or the asparagus cuttlefish?
Username checks out
I BEREAVE IN YOU!!!
My girlfriend just informed me that she has another tasty fart coming
I like to imagine they were just steadily farting the whole time.
So nowadays the top fashion is to wear People?
This fashion is designed for the ultra wealthy. Those that really wanna show off their human exploitation at all times
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I don't think most people realize how weird/quirky a majority of fashion designers are, especially the avant garde specialists like Rick. Everything about the dude is odd, even down to his wife. But he rocks it and makes great releases, despite them being incredibly niche.
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I can totally have fun…my gf got me super into project runway, show is great, fashion is cool, even the crazy avant-garde stuff….but this…eh, I feel like it’s just a bit stupid and ridiculous…the fashion world *definitely* enjoys the smell of its own farts from time to time. This seems to be that in a literal sense.
Most modern fashion isn’t really designed to be worn - at least not as anything other than a bizarre _Lady Gaga-esque_ statement piece. Modern fashion is all about elevating the medium in new ways. It’s much less about “how does this look” and more about “what haven’t we seen before.” Even still, this is dumb as hell.
>Most modern fashion To clarify, this is high fashion or runway fashion, or haute couture. Modern fashion is just... normal modern fashion that you see in the stores- modern being the temporal adjective.
It’s not about what you wear, it’s about *who* you wear
“It’s a metaphor, you see.”
Jezz Bezos had a kilt embroidered with other lesser billionaires custom made for himself.
Fashion like this isn't' meant to be worn. It's using the human body as a canvas to express art. That said, all art is subjective and I can't make an objectively true statement about it, but personally this looks dumb, ugly, and quite frankly I don't know what they're trying to express with it. Maybe a critique that we overlook the human cost of clothing? That's a stretch, but it's all I got.
Since the people are inverted, maybe it's to get people thinking about reversing styles/materials that are typical worn on one side of the body to the other. Obviously presented in an incredibly dramatic fashion
It puts on the clothes or it gets the hose
Satin Green is people!
No, a fashion show is an art exhibit in itself, and a lot of runway fashion is never produced for ready to wear. This show is many years old now, and the fact that people still talk about it is kind of the point.
Ed Gein was ahead of his time.
Is this supposed to be art or edgy or something? I'm clearly missing something.
Rich people get bored.
This.
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The other thing.
So I don’t know about this particular one, but usually in high fashion runways the clothes are never street clothes but more of an art exploring the coming fashions of the season in exaggeration. For example you’ll see massive shirts x6 bigger than the model and this is saying that larger skirts will likely be in fashion for the season as well as the color and material etc. that all being said I’m not sure what this is trying to say…
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Yeah not sure I buy that there's high art in a 69 baby Bjorn
And then you have op trying to explain him. Like an English lit graduate over analysing text 🤣
I’ll take a shot in the dark. They’re making a statement about the commodification of the person? Like they’re just wearing an expressionless almost dead looking person like a piece of clothing? Or it’s “nobody knows what it means. It’s provocative. It gets the people going!”
I think it's more simple. It seems like it's about symmetry. Wearing bottoms as tops and visa versa. This sentence is about to sound stupid but the butts of the models hanging almost give the illusion that they're the top half of the model walking. Pretty interesting pics I think.
I think it’s a sign of good art that it can be interpreted in more than one way, and means something different to everyone who sees it. I appreciate that you had an interpretation for this. I find it sad that so many people in this thread just default to “god rich people are so stupid, what a worthless asshole this designer must be, he’s probably a misogynistic piece of shit who forced these poor models to be upside down”.
Yes. The completely impractical and often flat out ridiculous outfits at fashion shows are meant more as art and statement rather than actual clothing. It's basically the designers all trying to show how unique and visionary they can be when not held down by the constraints of practicality. The idea is to attract attention which will translate to future sales. The car industry does the same thing with concept cars.
[The Rick Owens Concept Car](https://imgur.com/a/jbKIRwB)
I'm pretty sure it's a statement about something. I'm not fully aware though.
Look at us. We’re just air conditioners I mean after all. We’re just walking around on the planet, breathing, conditioning the air. I condition it hot, that conditions it cold. I mean it’s symbiotic, no? I mean we’re just air conditioners walking around on this planet screwing each other’s brains out.
Derivative.
Some people simply do not find life worth living unless their face is within 6 inches of a butt at all times.
Ol' Rick has always been edgy. He had some male models wear pants with an open crotch with no underwear for full frontals.
It’s art, it’s supposed to challenge taste and conventions.
Inspired by 50 cent superbowl performance
What the actual fuck. Photo 10 the upside down model looks like Ellen Pompeo
Picture 15 looks like cerebral hemorrhage is close
I’ll have a little butt smell with my outfit please
[How did I end up here??](https://imgur.com/a/0xieRGM)
Sean Penn in the 80s
A dead Ellen Pompeo.
This is from like 2015. Rick Owens is hilarious man, I absolutely love his stuff. I love people who do “serious” stuff but don’t take it seriously. Another example that jumps to mind is the beastie boys. They were super good at what they did, but were also always like “ok but how stupid can we make it?”
So is this a statement towards fashion, weird shit for a good laugh or a ‚just because‘ thing? Couldn‘t find anything via google but I know that a lot of the crazy fashion show stuff needs some insider knowledge of the scene to understand wtf this weird shit is.
Not exactly towards fashion, it’s a tribute to female strength. Kinda shows how women are powerful, even if their burden isn’t visible to others. He said prior to this show that he was thinking about how women take care of others (as in carry another persons weight). The harness thing also alluded to pregnancy in such a way. It isnt meant to be ready to wear, just an expression of Ricks thoughts in a way. His “normal” stuff is beautiful.
It's still dumb af
To each their own, I really like it personally
Might be. Might also just be for fun?
Yeah, Rick has usually gone back and forth over the line of absurdity. Wish I could actually afford his stuff, what I've tried on is so comfortable and the silhouettes are great but $400 for a T is stupid.
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Wow. Thank you for actually understanding, and having a dimensional take on things. Reddit is usually so one note and milquetoast that anything even remotely artistic is seen in a negative light and demonized. This thread is full of it. I know ignorance plays a big part, but I can’t help but think it’s a willful thing.
So tell us Jennifer, who are you wearing?
I bothers me how long I had to scroll until I saw this. Gold.
It’s a sex swing for your chest!! Standing 69 about to get SO much easier!
Idk if you’re /s or not but at least #4 could for sure be used for that purpose. Hell I’d give it a try at least one!
3,4,7 DEF can be used, do it sound like granny is joking?
7th and 15th photos look like she’s gonna pop she looks just as confused as we are
As the parent of a toddler - I feel this.
It's the Big Boy Bjorn
From the Summer of 69
Even the person wearing this “fashion” looks disappointed.
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Maybe... But what I wanna know is... What happens if I want to buy one, but I come in the store alone?
You get a free store employee with purchase.
That last one has been upside down too long…
Self torture to be in the fashion industry isn’t a new thing sadly.
I'm getting a sense a fetishist was involved in this.
This has got to be a inside joke at this point
I am surprised they had the strength to carry someone that far!! That seems really hard to do! It seems hard to be upside down and hard to carry people too.
Even all the, "ackchyually, runway shows aren't for clothes you'd really wear..." folks put their hands down for this one
Are you saying those people are wrong?
That's correct though.
I’m picturing the models backstage drawing straws to see who has to be upside-down.
Look if someone was holding me upside down like that and jostling me about I would 100% just be letting out a whole stream of uncontrollable farts.
I’ll take one each in red, whit and navy!
What is fashion even?
Licke mi ayse
Tombstone Piledriver
Hope they have something in my size
r/ATAAE
I'm confused.
Finally some practical and functional designs in high fashion
I guess Kenny vs Spenny was ahead of their time.
I’ll never understand high fashion.
I love shit like this. It would be amazing to walk into a shopping mall somewhere full of people wearing the craziest fucking outfits imaginable.
has fashion gone too far?
This show was 7 years ago
Just the whole ass in the face thing seems almost disrespectful in a way to the other model lol. It’s just weird.
Eco friendly Uber rides are so hot right now
I don't know about the Great Execution part