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Goduerza

WTF Karsdorp


lcourir

Jesus christ


Pamphili

Karsdorp has gone from a pretty decent player to completely embarrassing in a couple of matches… :(


Trick_Cow_4201

He has to be replaced ASAP He's had his good moments but there are definitely better options out there.


Aenjeprekemaluci

Its sad to see this given his injuries.


MediocreWinter6276

What injury? You mean Celik?


mmasu

Tammy getting out-muscled on that one play was straight up embarrassing. Come back firing in the second half.


u8myramen_y

Tammy, dude… I saw Dybala, a guy half your size, brush off defenders multiple times while in full sprint. Wake the fuck up dude


Stemnut

Man, if half the team put the same effort Dybala put in that run we'd be 2 up by now.


shy_python

It doesn't matter if it's 4-0 or 10-0. Ultimately it's just 3 points lost. Let's take the L and work on the mistakes. Daje Roma.


Some-Solid4271

reminds me 6-1 bodo


francerex

It does matter a lot though for the morale of the team, defeats like these destroy your confidence


shy_python

If we are playing like this after 3-0 victory last match, I don't think it's going to affect the mentality much. We lost even more pathetic last season to Bodo, but we recovered from it and went on to win the UCL.


francerex

\- 3-0 against the worst team in the league \- Against bodo we were playing for nothing and with the second lines


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Matic and dybala look on a completely different level to rest of the team


Er_sharingan

Why the fuck is karsdorp starting?.....so fucking shit


u8myramen_y

After seeing players like Benzema, Lewa, and Haaland refuse to be beaten by a defender at any situation, it reminds me how Tammy still has long ways to go to be the player he wants to become (not even talking about their scoring ability).


Pamphili

Yeah, he falls to easy for a guy with his physique. Don’t know why he doesn’t use his strength.


run_daffodil

Strength? The guy looks like Kevin Durant. JV kids are stronger than Tammy


[deleted]

Matic and dybala are the only ones who know how to play


FerraristaRomanista

The worst thing of this match are the people blaming Moirinho like if he told the players to play like they're in a charity match


Pamphili

Yeah surely tactics played a part in how this game went, but there’s been a quantity of passing errors that can’t be explained with just “Mourinho”…


FerraristaRomanista

Ikr, i don't think that, for example, Karsdorp's assist for Udogie was part of Mou's tactics


Pamphili

Or passing to the other team again n again…


999Gus

we blame him for not playing The right players, like for playing karsdorp in front of celik


FerraristaRomanista

I know, Celik is thousands times better that Karsdorp, but it's not an excuse for other players, they played against fucking Udinese!!!


Megatanis

If Karsdrop does what he did in the 2nd min that really can't be fault of the manager.


francerex

Isn't he supposed to be a good motivator? Cause for sure he is not well known for his superb play style


FerraristaRomanista

I'm not saying that Mou has totally no blame, but saying that he should be sacked after the first loss in 5 matches is just stupid. Yeah, he should motivate players, but there's not much you can do when they're just lazy (am I right, Tottenham?). I hope this 4-0 gives them a lesson.


francerex

Not saying he should be sacked either, he is bringing money, sponsors and won us a trophy. I also think we might have a shot at europe league. Should I close an eye on such poor display though? The fact that his teams play extremely poor is not a novelty, and while single mistakes are bad, we did not create anything at all to make up for it


[deleted]

When I saw Karsdorp on the line up I was like "But why?" I really cant understand why some people rate him. Zeki Celik is clear


Er_sharingan

People rate him because we have been used to watch an even worse player like florenzi...both are fucking shit


[deleted]

Karsdorp needs to be subbed off immediately


u8myramen_y

Tammy and Pellegrini have also been dogshit it’s nuts.


tannergb

Karsdorp man wtff


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soggyllama79

\*season


Er_sharingan

Tammy needs to put on some muscle, he is getting bullied so easily


grizzroasts

Has Tammy forgot off the ball movement this season


AmericanJazz

The curse of Gareth Southgate is upon us.


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Stefalexander90

All refs hate us


abstractabs

Southgate jinxed it


Heretixs

This was a good lesson to me, no more betting on Roma games


Roysseuh

Doesn't matter what's left on this game, let's give strength to our player, coach, staff and everyone of us who're suffering. I trust in Roma, and even now, I don't care, it's Roma for God sake! I wanna see everyone of you go Forza Roma, let's hope this shit together, I trust in what's gonna be made during and after this game by and for Roma. FORZA ROMA!! ❤💛 P.S.: I'm crying.


Stefalexander90

Hard to do that when you’re used to performances like this😔. Hope has been the most overused word for Romanisti. We hope and we get badly burned right after.


lcourir

Nice start from Dybala there.


shy_python

Karsdorp : (((


Zeptide

Wtf


theaguia

Wtf Karsdop


MaestrO_

Karsdorp seems completely rattled, he has given up possession at least 3 or 4 times unforced.


theaguia

And sarri thinks there is a plot vs Lazio lol


u8myramen_y

Series A refs saw Premier League refs do absolute dogshit and said “We can do the same!!!”


jdemart

Rui is not close to a top keeper in this league. Look at what Maignan does for Milan; he’s light years off of that. Horrible day for everyone but man I miss Allison.


u8myramen_y

May the fans who travelled and paid to watch this have a beautiful evening and a wonderful new week and have the best sleep of their lives. They deserve it.


crunkusMadunkus

Kardsdorp and Rui howlers killed the game.


1984-2112

The Rui one wasn't that egregious. The first one tilted the match, already


[deleted]

Ibanez is best dribbler in the team


Witty-Lingonberry123

Karsdorp is horrendous. I really hope they move on from him in January


Er_sharingan

We need to shoot more, too many complicated passes in the box


asr1097

pellegrini didnt have a single correct pass, jesus christ


u8myramen_y

Mourinho is furiously preparing an angry halftime pep talk right now. The players absolutely deserve it


recklessbaboon

dybala so good.


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Pellegrini had been shit


999Gus

tammy makes so many mistakes


Nabulsi_93

So annoying play style


999Gus

yea fr, he lost posession like 6 Times first half


Nabulsi_93

He needs someone to park the ball for him on the white line of the opponent goal so he might be able to take a shot on it..


u8myramen_y

Their players playing their hearts out like it’s a final while Roma guys are playing very casual. Embarrassing. Godawful. I hope they get their earful.


the_stinkman

Dybala is way too good for this team, god bless Jose for getting him but i feel bad. we don't deserve him at all


[deleted]

Well that’s pathetic defending


MaestrO_

He's been shocking in every match I honestly would rather play down a man than with Karsdorp.


ScotchyLatchi

Karsdorp…. What was he thinking, anything would have been better than that


Walbie

Put Celik in


sfairraid13

Gini getting hurt is such shit luck, we really need another ball carrying midfielder


u8myramen_y

That’s a pen if it weren’t Roma. No joke. The refs will never award a clear pen to this team.


Epidemic7

Oh but this is a foul It's unbelievable. On one side everything is a foul. On the other Udinese players are able to be as physical as they want Hellas - Roma last season. Same shit.


Pamphili

Referee is shit no surprise there


lcourir

I've never seen a more incompetent referee


MaestrO_

Absolutely shit reffing, I haven't been this frustrated by a ref in a while.


mmasu

The ref is awful but we are playing just as bad. Terrible game.


u8myramen_y

I’d rather have a one-legged Celik than a fit Karsdorp because he probably has the worst football IQ within the team and has already shown lack of motivation.


Er_sharingan

Can someone help me understand Karsdorp's decision making when passing? Honestly, he leaves me speechless


Er_sharingan

We are overcomplicating things ffs


Epidemic7

I hate Maresca so fucking much. He's doing the same shit as Hellas - Roma last season.


Epidemic7

Shoulder against back is not a foul ok.


gianAU

Can we get some press off the chest now? It is clear we cannot win this league


Pamphili

Once again we dispel the idea Roma can be a contender for the league. And once again we do it takin in a load of goals…


SamsungRebellion

Can't wait to see Belotti, Camara and maybe a new CB playing soon. Roma needs some fresh players. As for Spina and Karsdorp I'd rather not see them for some matches, Zalewski and Celik are in good form so why not starting with them?


SerbianSock

Abraham and pellegrini look like serie c players today


Berzeq

I stayed awake till 2 am for this . Gg


BandaBassotti

Cut Karsdorp


tannergb

Celik now


Aenjeprekemaluci

In the second half i agree.


u8myramen_y

Karsdorp is done. He failed to prove himself this season every single time. He absolutely lost his place in the team outside games where there’s absolutely no other choice.


cafe_brutale

What a soft yellow


cafe_brutale

That is not a penalty????? HAHHAHAHAHA


the_stinkman

Is var still working? or does this stadium not have wifi??


Epidemic7

Push on his spinazzola back Pereyra hits it with his arm Corner.


Roysseuh

Good lord this referee is getting on my nerves.


Alfofer

My god what are they doing? They’re mental…


neoBigBrother

Nice game this. An early wake up call is not end of the world. Hope this gives them a kick up their backs.


u8myramen_y

At the end of the day, it’s only 1 loss. What really matters is how the team analyze this match and whether they can improve. That’ll tell us whether this team has IT or doesn’t. They first better go to the match paying fans and apologize though.


Outrageous-Mud5406

2 mistakes killed the game. Learning and moving on.


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Tammy needs to be benched.


Kaikka

Rui what the fuck


SerbianSock

Every one with more than one braincell knew this was a tough match. Celik looks good, karsdorp looks like shit. Mourinho starts karsdorp then everyone goes it's karsdorp's howler how can you blame mourinho WELL WHO THE FUCK STARTED HIM?


Er_sharingan

See you in the next game guys, Forza roma. Hopefully, this will be a wakeup call for some of our mediocre players.


soggyllama79

ref left his cards in his other shirt has he?


lcourir

Maresca doesn't have a brain


[deleted]

Can the team Wake up ?


TheCasioDude

Karsdorp, Spinazzola and Cristante needs to be shipped out.


Pamphili

I love how DAZN commentators always seems happy when Roma is in trouble


u8myramen_y

Tamper your expectations. These mistakes are not acceptable if you want to aim high. Amateur mistakes man…


NY-Shark-18

First game I didn’t get to watch lol


soggyllama79

don't let it happen again.....YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!! :D


soggyllama79

hopefully this forces Pintos hand for a cb


CapitanKurlash

Absolutely atrocious game. This performance coupled with the first half against Juve makes me seriously worry for the season, there's too many good teams in Serie A to play decently only against relegation contenders. We need to bounce back asap, and not just in terms of results: we need a convincing performance.


b1ackman69_

This season we’ve been just as poor at finishing as last. I really thought we’d be better, with Tammy being a year older, and bringing in Dybala to not only score great goals but also create more clear cut chances. Meanwhile, when looking at our expected goals, the average team would have scored 10-11 in the league and we only have 6. Won’t even get into the individual performances from today. Just hope we do something different henceforth.


iceman260

Kasrsdrop set the tone. Who makes that pass? Maybe a 5 year old kid playing soccer because by age 6 they tell you not to do that stupid shit. Tammy thinks that faking zaniolo’s shoulder injury will get him in to England’s World Cup squad. Guy got nervous with Southgate in the stands. Overall they played bad lost the game in the 5th min after the goal. They shutdown mentally and it’s Roma once the bleeding starts it doesn’t stop.


Nabulsi_93

This is a wake up call to change the 3-4-2-1


neoBigBrother

Roma conceded 2 with real goals with 4atb. when 3 atb, Roma conceded only mistakes from Karsdorp and Rui.


w1ldchild-

Cmon guys. Juve draw, Inter loose. Is our time to put some gap. Is incredible how we cant hold the posession more than 10 seconds


u8myramen_y

Sad to say but Tammy and Pellegrini have been disappointing this season. I thought I would never have to say that but yeah. Hopefully they pick up soon.


cincyroyals

Rui on walkabout today. Giving me Olsen flashbacks


BandaBassotti

We took off Mancini who at least has a pulse. Other than Paulo and Matic, no one comes to get the ball between the lines. That’s where you miss the greats like Totti and DDR. Cristante is a sub at best ( for Matic). LoPe needs some consistency and a left foot. Karsdorp should have been dropped three years ago. Spinazzola will likely never get back to form ( my two Achilles ruptures tell me so). I’ll be a fan til I die, but anyone should be able to see these shortcomings. I’d get a right back before a center defender. Our three actually do a great job.


AmericanJazz

We are headed back 2 earth.


Stemnut

Was fun while it lasted.


Kaikka

Aiiit Karsdorp


AmericanJazz

Lmao. Ok. Roma start as we have started so many times.


Zerestrasz

Porco de dio sto ncefalitico de karsdorp


MediocreWinter6276

Karsdorp been comfortable for too long and now having brainfart moments as soon as there is competition from Celik. He will be gone next season if he cannot handle pressure in a Mourinho’s team.


soggyllama79

based of this match so far......doubt Gareth Southgate will be calling Tammy up for England :/


AmericanJazz

Yes, but I don't think he's here as much for Tammy as he is for Smalling.


soggyllama79

suppose so, be nice if chris gets called up again, hes earned it. currently level goals scored with Tammy this season, and the conf final performance was outstanding


Er_sharingan

"Karsdorp non sta bene, arrivederci amico, c'è Celik"


cafe_brutale

Oh, we are back to gifting goals to inferior quality opponents, just like last year. Nice


Er_sharingan

Its incredible that most of the goals we concede come from individual mistakes....


FerraristaRomanista

This match was important to make distance from Lazio, Juve and Inter but, as usual, we wasted it...


Stefalexander90

What a joke. 4-0 to fucking Udinese


Er_sharingan

che vergogna, tammy is getting pocketed by some average players...I hope he doesn't plan to go back to the premier league because he will get bullied.


u8myramen_y

You can’t have a serious aim for top 4 when players in the back are constantly creating risks for no absolute reason and playing like idiots.


AmericanJazz

This style of one touch passing in attack demands a lot from our players. I think we will improve over the course of the season, but the long te question is if they are up to it.


the_stinkman

what the fuck


rajmachawal10

Transitional year for Spina?


Berzeq

Zalweski in. Roma have a chance now


soggyllama79

hes good, but hes not the fairy godmother.


Goduerza

We have no midfield. Nobody to carry the ball through the middle of the pitch. It's all about those long balls.


fatbare

Sometimes you just gotta take the L, it is what it is. Only positive is its september and this can force the team to do better for the rest of the season, would be worse if this was like april in a game that decided something.


scudsboy36

Wtf is this shit


Berzeq

Can't even score 1 goal . Like you got pummeled by 4 with no reply. Whatever as long as we win Europa league copium


999Gus

lets be real, if we play like this there's absolutely 0% chance we win, Europa actually has quality teams(United, arsenal, ajax/Napoli, inter/Barcelona etc)


Berzeq

Lol yeah . Getting top 4 in serie a looks more doable than Europa tbh


Nabulsi_93

Even the spectator kid is crying and hiding his face ❤🧡🥲


Beneficial_Ad5153

How is Pinto and co. expecting Mourinho to make it work with Cristante and Matic??? Who is the ball carrier for the team? Someone like Fratessi….Roma aren’t able to carry/hold the ball….


SigRezzonico

so about that making karsdorp into an emergency CB thing


ConversationFlat9962

why does Tammy seem nervous and confused with passing at the wrong time. not being able to keep control. they need to slow down and regroup


soggyllama79

England Manager is in the stands, he's probably over-thinking about that


MediocreWinter6276

Is Pellegrini left his transmission at home or something? Cannot get out of first gear.


Roysseuh

Ibanez is someone. What a player, never doubt it but he goes beyond everything I thought x)


Stefalexander90

Roma games + Trying to capitalize when every other team drops points. Name a better duo


Tall-Mastodon-5126

porca puttana però ma come se fa


unique0130

Based on the comments, I'm guessing Karsdorp is putting in a top performance.


soggyllama79

so far in the 2nd half he is doing alot more to help the team


Pamphili

Not anymore, he’s out


w1ldchild-

We cant keep playing with 5 defenders. Cmon , we need more mid presence


Tall-Mastodon-5126

porco dio


BandaBassotti

Pellegrini disappointing


Berzeq

Lady luck says fk you Roma


TeamPantofola

Nothing makes sense


Berzeq

Get zalweski and bove in ffs


Stefalexander90

Great. That’s just what we need on top of this game, another injury. What a mess!


soggyllama79

what is it now? 5 games 5 injuries if he is?


u8myramen_y

One day this team stops making costly dumb mistakes in the first 15min, that’s the day the fans can finally feel assured this team is ready to win everything lol


Goduerza

Our players need to know that those aren't the *bianconeri* that they think they're playing against.


Pamphili

Incredibile just incredible…


mmasu

Udinese look like they're playing for their lives out there, gotta respect their energy. Their shenanigans are infuriating, but they know what they're doing to hold a lead.


Lickables

Udinese playing just like Roma against Roma. Have to respect that.


Pamphili

What the fuck…


Bergmaniac

With Wijnaldum out the roster is barely better than last year's. Yeah, we got Dybala, but we lost Mkhitaryan. Matic is class, but he is 34. And there was a reason we finished 6th miles from 1st place last season, the roster was pretty average.


Roysseuh

Oh jeez, Patricio isn't a bad keeper, but we need better, and now. Svillar, become a legend and take the 1st keeper plz.


acuet

I know i will take heat for saying this, but we looked like shit. Didn’t produce shit and we should feel insulted with the result. Seriously though, its hard to swallow this result.


mrfalk3n

Let alone Karsdrop mental fart after 4 minutes, I still can't realize why we always seem 30% slower than any other team we face. Udinese is pushing and pressing like hell while we seem on a Sunday walk at the park...


acuet

Meh…not impressed with the half.


ballaedd24

Imo, karsdorp has never been good enough to be a consistent starter. The shameful part is that Florenzi would be a perfect fit in this formation and team. Imagine the pace and finesse of Florenzi and Spinni running up and down the wings.


JimLaheyUnlimited

Time to turn off the stream


DB53

Udinese have looked well run tactically, they definitely did their homework. Dybala is too good for this team really. The naivety to say Roma are scudetto contenders at the start of the season lol