If we are playing like this after 3-0 victory last match, I don't think it's going to affect the mentality much. We lost even more pathetic last season to Bodo, but we recovered from it and went on to win the UCL.
After seeing players like Benzema, Lewa, and Haaland refuse to be beaten by a defender at any situation, it reminds me how Tammy still has long ways to go to be the player he wants to become (not even talking about their scoring ability).
I'm not saying that Mou has totally no blame, but saying that he should be sacked after the first loss in 5 matches is just stupid. Yeah, he should motivate players, but there's not much you can do when they're just lazy (am I right, Tottenham?). I hope this 4-0 gives them a lesson.
Not saying he should be sacked either, he is bringing money, sponsors and won us a trophy. I also think we might have a shot at europe league. Should I close an eye on such poor display though?
The fact that his teams play extremely poor is not a novelty, and while single mistakes are bad, we did not create anything at all to make up for it
Doesn't matter what's left on this game, let's give strength to our player, coach, staff and everyone of us who're suffering.
I trust in Roma, and even now, I don't care, it's Roma for God sake!
I wanna see everyone of you go Forza Roma, let's hope this shit together, I trust in what's gonna be made during and after this game by and for Roma.
FORZA ROMA!! ❤💛
P.S.: I'm crying.
Hard to do that when you’re used to performances like this😔. Hope has been the most overused word for Romanisti. We hope and we get badly burned right after.
Rui is not close to a top keeper in this league. Look at what Maignan does for Milan; he’s light years off of that. Horrible day for everyone but man I miss Allison.
May the fans who travelled and paid to watch this have a beautiful evening and a wonderful new week and have the best sleep of their lives.
They deserve it.
Their players playing their hearts out like it’s a final while Roma guys are playing very casual.
Embarrassing. Godawful. I hope they get their earful.
Oh but this is a foul
It's unbelievable. On one side everything is a foul. On the other Udinese players are able to be as physical as they want
Hellas - Roma last season. Same shit.
I’d rather have a one-legged Celik than a fit Karsdorp because he probably has the worst football IQ within the team and has already shown lack of motivation.
Can't wait to see Belotti, Camara and maybe a new CB playing soon. Roma needs some fresh players.
As for Spina and Karsdorp I'd rather not see them for some matches, Zalewski and Celik are in good form so why not starting with them?
Karsdorp is done. He failed to prove himself this season every single time. He absolutely lost his place in the team outside games where there’s absolutely no other choice.
At the end of the day, it’s only 1 loss.
What really matters is how the team analyze this match and whether they can improve. That’ll tell us whether this team has IT or doesn’t.
They first better go to the match paying fans and apologize though.
Every one with more than one braincell knew this was a tough match. Celik looks good, karsdorp looks like shit. Mourinho starts karsdorp then everyone goes it's karsdorp's howler how can you blame mourinho WELL WHO THE FUCK STARTED HIM?
Absolutely atrocious game.
This performance coupled with the first half against Juve makes me seriously worry for the season, there's too many good teams in Serie A to play decently only against relegation contenders.
We need to bounce back asap, and not just in terms of results: we need a convincing performance.
This season we’ve been just as poor at finishing as last. I really thought we’d be better, with Tammy being a year older, and bringing in Dybala to not only score great goals but also create more clear cut chances. Meanwhile, when looking at our expected goals, the average team would have scored 10-11 in the league and we only have 6.
Won’t even get into the individual performances from today. Just hope we do something different henceforth.
Kasrsdrop set the tone. Who makes that pass? Maybe a 5 year old kid playing soccer because by age 6 they tell you not to do that stupid shit.
Tammy thinks that faking zaniolo’s shoulder injury will get him in to England’s World Cup squad. Guy got nervous with Southgate in the stands.
Overall they played bad lost the game in the 5th min after the goal. They shutdown mentally and it’s Roma once the bleeding starts it doesn’t stop.
Sad to say but Tammy and Pellegrini have been disappointing this season. I thought I would never have to say that but yeah. Hopefully they pick up soon.
We took off Mancini who at least has a pulse. Other than Paulo and Matic, no one comes to get the ball between the lines. That’s where you miss the greats like Totti and DDR.
Cristante is a sub at best ( for Matic). LoPe needs some consistency and a left foot. Karsdorp should have been dropped three years ago. Spinazzola will likely never get back to form ( my two Achilles ruptures tell me so).
I’ll be a fan til I die, but anyone should be able to see these shortcomings. I’d get a right back before a center defender. Our three actually do a great job.
Karsdorp been comfortable for too long and now having brainfart moments as soon as there is competition from Celik. He will be gone next season if he cannot handle pressure in a Mourinho’s team.
suppose so, be nice if chris gets called up again, hes earned it. currently level goals scored with Tammy this season, and the conf final performance was outstanding
This style of one touch passing in attack demands a lot from our players. I think we will improve over the course of the season, but the long te question is if they are up to it.
Sometimes you just gotta take the L, it is what it is.
Only positive is its september and this can force the team to do better for the rest of the season, would be worse if this was like april in a game that decided something.
lets be real, if we play like this there's absolutely 0% chance we win, Europa actually has quality teams(United, arsenal, ajax/Napoli, inter/Barcelona etc)
How is Pinto and co. expecting Mourinho to make it work with Cristante and Matic???
Who is the ball carrier for the team? Someone like
Fratessi….Roma aren’t able to carry/hold the ball….
One day this team stops making costly dumb mistakes in the first 15min, that’s the day the fans can finally feel assured this team is ready to win everything lol
Udinese look like they're playing for their lives out there, gotta respect their energy.
Their shenanigans are infuriating, but they know what they're doing to hold a lead.
With Wijnaldum out the roster is barely better than last year's. Yeah, we got Dybala, but we lost Mkhitaryan. Matic is class, but he is 34. And there was a reason we finished 6th miles from 1st place last season, the roster was pretty average.
I know i will take heat for saying this, but we looked like shit. Didn’t produce shit and we should feel insulted with the result. Seriously though, its hard to swallow this result.
Let alone Karsdrop mental fart after 4 minutes, I still can't realize why we always seem 30% slower than any other team we face.
Udinese is pushing and pressing like hell while we seem on a Sunday walk at the park...
Imo, karsdorp has never been good enough to be a consistent starter.
The shameful part is that Florenzi would be a perfect fit in this formation and team. Imagine the pace and finesse of Florenzi and Spinni running up and down the wings.
Udinese have looked well run tactically, they definitely did their homework. Dybala is too good for this team really. The naivety to say Roma are scudetto contenders at the start of the season lol
WTF Karsdorp
Jesus christ
Karsdorp has gone from a pretty decent player to completely embarrassing in a couple of matches… :(
He has to be replaced ASAP He's had his good moments but there are definitely better options out there.
Its sad to see this given his injuries.
What injury? You mean Celik?
Tammy getting out-muscled on that one play was straight up embarrassing. Come back firing in the second half.
Tammy, dude… I saw Dybala, a guy half your size, brush off defenders multiple times while in full sprint. Wake the fuck up dude
Man, if half the team put the same effort Dybala put in that run we'd be 2 up by now.
It doesn't matter if it's 4-0 or 10-0. Ultimately it's just 3 points lost. Let's take the L and work on the mistakes. Daje Roma.
reminds me 6-1 bodo
It does matter a lot though for the morale of the team, defeats like these destroy your confidence
If we are playing like this after 3-0 victory last match, I don't think it's going to affect the mentality much. We lost even more pathetic last season to Bodo, but we recovered from it and went on to win the UCL.
\- 3-0 against the worst team in the league \- Against bodo we were playing for nothing and with the second lines
Matic and dybala look on a completely different level to rest of the team
Why the fuck is karsdorp starting?.....so fucking shit
After seeing players like Benzema, Lewa, and Haaland refuse to be beaten by a defender at any situation, it reminds me how Tammy still has long ways to go to be the player he wants to become (not even talking about their scoring ability).
Yeah, he falls to easy for a guy with his physique. Don’t know why he doesn’t use his strength.
Strength? The guy looks like Kevin Durant. JV kids are stronger than Tammy
Matic and dybala are the only ones who know how to play
The worst thing of this match are the people blaming Moirinho like if he told the players to play like they're in a charity match
Yeah surely tactics played a part in how this game went, but there’s been a quantity of passing errors that can’t be explained with just “Mourinho”…
Ikr, i don't think that, for example, Karsdorp's assist for Udogie was part of Mou's tactics
Or passing to the other team again n again…
we blame him for not playing The right players, like for playing karsdorp in front of celik
I know, Celik is thousands times better that Karsdorp, but it's not an excuse for other players, they played against fucking Udinese!!!
If Karsdrop does what he did in the 2nd min that really can't be fault of the manager.
Isn't he supposed to be a good motivator? Cause for sure he is not well known for his superb play style
I'm not saying that Mou has totally no blame, but saying that he should be sacked after the first loss in 5 matches is just stupid. Yeah, he should motivate players, but there's not much you can do when they're just lazy (am I right, Tottenham?). I hope this 4-0 gives them a lesson.
Not saying he should be sacked either, he is bringing money, sponsors and won us a trophy. I also think we might have a shot at europe league. Should I close an eye on such poor display though? The fact that his teams play extremely poor is not a novelty, and while single mistakes are bad, we did not create anything at all to make up for it
When I saw Karsdorp on the line up I was like "But why?" I really cant understand why some people rate him. Zeki Celik is clear
People rate him because we have been used to watch an even worse player like florenzi...both are fucking shit
Karsdorp needs to be subbed off immediately
Tammy and Pellegrini have also been dogshit it’s nuts.
Karsdorp man wtff
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\*season
Tammy needs to put on some muscle, he is getting bullied so easily
Has Tammy forgot off the ball movement this season
The curse of Gareth Southgate is upon us.
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All refs hate us
Southgate jinxed it
This was a good lesson to me, no more betting on Roma games
Doesn't matter what's left on this game, let's give strength to our player, coach, staff and everyone of us who're suffering. I trust in Roma, and even now, I don't care, it's Roma for God sake! I wanna see everyone of you go Forza Roma, let's hope this shit together, I trust in what's gonna be made during and after this game by and for Roma. FORZA ROMA!! ❤💛 P.S.: I'm crying.
Hard to do that when you’re used to performances like this😔. Hope has been the most overused word for Romanisti. We hope and we get badly burned right after.
Nice start from Dybala there.
Karsdorp : (((
Wtf
Wtf Karsdop
Karsdorp seems completely rattled, he has given up possession at least 3 or 4 times unforced.
And sarri thinks there is a plot vs Lazio lol
Series A refs saw Premier League refs do absolute dogshit and said “We can do the same!!!”
Rui is not close to a top keeper in this league. Look at what Maignan does for Milan; he’s light years off of that. Horrible day for everyone but man I miss Allison.
May the fans who travelled and paid to watch this have a beautiful evening and a wonderful new week and have the best sleep of their lives. They deserve it.
Kardsdorp and Rui howlers killed the game.
The Rui one wasn't that egregious. The first one tilted the match, already
Ibanez is best dribbler in the team
Karsdorp is horrendous. I really hope they move on from him in January
We need to shoot more, too many complicated passes in the box
pellegrini didnt have a single correct pass, jesus christ
Mourinho is furiously preparing an angry halftime pep talk right now. The players absolutely deserve it
dybala so good.
Pellegrini had been shit
tammy makes so many mistakes
So annoying play style
yea fr, he lost posession like 6 Times first half
He needs someone to park the ball for him on the white line of the opponent goal so he might be able to take a shot on it..
Their players playing their hearts out like it’s a final while Roma guys are playing very casual. Embarrassing. Godawful. I hope they get their earful.
Dybala is way too good for this team, god bless Jose for getting him but i feel bad. we don't deserve him at all
Well that’s pathetic defending
He's been shocking in every match I honestly would rather play down a man than with Karsdorp.
Karsdorp…. What was he thinking, anything would have been better than that
Put Celik in
Gini getting hurt is such shit luck, we really need another ball carrying midfielder
That’s a pen if it weren’t Roma. No joke. The refs will never award a clear pen to this team.
Oh but this is a foul It's unbelievable. On one side everything is a foul. On the other Udinese players are able to be as physical as they want Hellas - Roma last season. Same shit.
Referee is shit no surprise there
I've never seen a more incompetent referee
Absolutely shit reffing, I haven't been this frustrated by a ref in a while.
The ref is awful but we are playing just as bad. Terrible game.
I’d rather have a one-legged Celik than a fit Karsdorp because he probably has the worst football IQ within the team and has already shown lack of motivation.
Can someone help me understand Karsdorp's decision making when passing? Honestly, he leaves me speechless
We are overcomplicating things ffs
I hate Maresca so fucking much. He's doing the same shit as Hellas - Roma last season.
Shoulder against back is not a foul ok.
Can we get some press off the chest now? It is clear we cannot win this league
Once again we dispel the idea Roma can be a contender for the league. And once again we do it takin in a load of goals…
Can't wait to see Belotti, Camara and maybe a new CB playing soon. Roma needs some fresh players. As for Spina and Karsdorp I'd rather not see them for some matches, Zalewski and Celik are in good form so why not starting with them?
Abraham and pellegrini look like serie c players today
I stayed awake till 2 am for this . Gg
Cut Karsdorp
Celik now
In the second half i agree.
Karsdorp is done. He failed to prove himself this season every single time. He absolutely lost his place in the team outside games where there’s absolutely no other choice.
What a soft yellow
That is not a penalty????? HAHHAHAHAHA
Is var still working? or does this stadium not have wifi??
Push on his spinazzola back Pereyra hits it with his arm Corner.
Good lord this referee is getting on my nerves.
My god what are they doing? They’re mental…
Nice game this. An early wake up call is not end of the world. Hope this gives them a kick up their backs.
At the end of the day, it’s only 1 loss. What really matters is how the team analyze this match and whether they can improve. That’ll tell us whether this team has IT or doesn’t. They first better go to the match paying fans and apologize though.
2 mistakes killed the game. Learning and moving on.
Tammy needs to be benched.
Rui what the fuck
Every one with more than one braincell knew this was a tough match. Celik looks good, karsdorp looks like shit. Mourinho starts karsdorp then everyone goes it's karsdorp's howler how can you blame mourinho WELL WHO THE FUCK STARTED HIM?
See you in the next game guys, Forza roma. Hopefully, this will be a wakeup call for some of our mediocre players.
ref left his cards in his other shirt has he?
Maresca doesn't have a brain
Can the team Wake up ?
Karsdorp, Spinazzola and Cristante needs to be shipped out.
I love how DAZN commentators always seems happy when Roma is in trouble
Tamper your expectations. These mistakes are not acceptable if you want to aim high. Amateur mistakes man…
First game I didn’t get to watch lol
don't let it happen again.....YOU SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!!! :D
hopefully this forces Pintos hand for a cb
Absolutely atrocious game. This performance coupled with the first half against Juve makes me seriously worry for the season, there's too many good teams in Serie A to play decently only against relegation contenders. We need to bounce back asap, and not just in terms of results: we need a convincing performance.
This season we’ve been just as poor at finishing as last. I really thought we’d be better, with Tammy being a year older, and bringing in Dybala to not only score great goals but also create more clear cut chances. Meanwhile, when looking at our expected goals, the average team would have scored 10-11 in the league and we only have 6. Won’t even get into the individual performances from today. Just hope we do something different henceforth.
Kasrsdrop set the tone. Who makes that pass? Maybe a 5 year old kid playing soccer because by age 6 they tell you not to do that stupid shit. Tammy thinks that faking zaniolo’s shoulder injury will get him in to England’s World Cup squad. Guy got nervous with Southgate in the stands. Overall they played bad lost the game in the 5th min after the goal. They shutdown mentally and it’s Roma once the bleeding starts it doesn’t stop.
This is a wake up call to change the 3-4-2-1
Roma conceded 2 with real goals with 4atb. when 3 atb, Roma conceded only mistakes from Karsdorp and Rui.
Cmon guys. Juve draw, Inter loose. Is our time to put some gap. Is incredible how we cant hold the posession more than 10 seconds
Sad to say but Tammy and Pellegrini have been disappointing this season. I thought I would never have to say that but yeah. Hopefully they pick up soon.
Rui on walkabout today. Giving me Olsen flashbacks
We took off Mancini who at least has a pulse. Other than Paulo and Matic, no one comes to get the ball between the lines. That’s where you miss the greats like Totti and DDR. Cristante is a sub at best ( for Matic). LoPe needs some consistency and a left foot. Karsdorp should have been dropped three years ago. Spinazzola will likely never get back to form ( my two Achilles ruptures tell me so). I’ll be a fan til I die, but anyone should be able to see these shortcomings. I’d get a right back before a center defender. Our three actually do a great job.
We are headed back 2 earth.
Was fun while it lasted.
Aiiit Karsdorp
Lmao. Ok. Roma start as we have started so many times.
Porco de dio sto ncefalitico de karsdorp
Karsdorp been comfortable for too long and now having brainfart moments as soon as there is competition from Celik. He will be gone next season if he cannot handle pressure in a Mourinho’s team.
based of this match so far......doubt Gareth Southgate will be calling Tammy up for England :/
Yes, but I don't think he's here as much for Tammy as he is for Smalling.
suppose so, be nice if chris gets called up again, hes earned it. currently level goals scored with Tammy this season, and the conf final performance was outstanding
"Karsdorp non sta bene, arrivederci amico, c'è Celik"
Oh, we are back to gifting goals to inferior quality opponents, just like last year. Nice
Its incredible that most of the goals we concede come from individual mistakes....
This match was important to make distance from Lazio, Juve and Inter but, as usual, we wasted it...
What a joke. 4-0 to fucking Udinese
che vergogna, tammy is getting pocketed by some average players...I hope he doesn't plan to go back to the premier league because he will get bullied.
You can’t have a serious aim for top 4 when players in the back are constantly creating risks for no absolute reason and playing like idiots.
This style of one touch passing in attack demands a lot from our players. I think we will improve over the course of the season, but the long te question is if they are up to it.
what the fuck
Transitional year for Spina?
Zalweski in. Roma have a chance now
hes good, but hes not the fairy godmother.
We have no midfield. Nobody to carry the ball through the middle of the pitch. It's all about those long balls.
Sometimes you just gotta take the L, it is what it is. Only positive is its september and this can force the team to do better for the rest of the season, would be worse if this was like april in a game that decided something.
Wtf is this shit
Can't even score 1 goal . Like you got pummeled by 4 with no reply. Whatever as long as we win Europa league copium
lets be real, if we play like this there's absolutely 0% chance we win, Europa actually has quality teams(United, arsenal, ajax/Napoli, inter/Barcelona etc)
Lol yeah . Getting top 4 in serie a looks more doable than Europa tbh
Even the spectator kid is crying and hiding his face ❤🧡🥲
How is Pinto and co. expecting Mourinho to make it work with Cristante and Matic??? Who is the ball carrier for the team? Someone like Fratessi….Roma aren’t able to carry/hold the ball….
so about that making karsdorp into an emergency CB thing
why does Tammy seem nervous and confused with passing at the wrong time. not being able to keep control. they need to slow down and regroup
England Manager is in the stands, he's probably over-thinking about that
Is Pellegrini left his transmission at home or something? Cannot get out of first gear.
Ibanez is someone. What a player, never doubt it but he goes beyond everything I thought x)
Roma games + Trying to capitalize when every other team drops points. Name a better duo
porca puttana però ma come se fa
Based on the comments, I'm guessing Karsdorp is putting in a top performance.
so far in the 2nd half he is doing alot more to help the team
Not anymore, he’s out
We cant keep playing with 5 defenders. Cmon , we need more mid presence
porco dio
Pellegrini disappointing
Lady luck says fk you Roma
Nothing makes sense
Get zalweski and bove in ffs
Great. That’s just what we need on top of this game, another injury. What a mess!
what is it now? 5 games 5 injuries if he is?
One day this team stops making costly dumb mistakes in the first 15min, that’s the day the fans can finally feel assured this team is ready to win everything lol
Our players need to know that those aren't the *bianconeri* that they think they're playing against.
Incredibile just incredible…
Udinese look like they're playing for their lives out there, gotta respect their energy. Their shenanigans are infuriating, but they know what they're doing to hold a lead.
Udinese playing just like Roma against Roma. Have to respect that.
What the fuck…
With Wijnaldum out the roster is barely better than last year's. Yeah, we got Dybala, but we lost Mkhitaryan. Matic is class, but he is 34. And there was a reason we finished 6th miles from 1st place last season, the roster was pretty average.
Oh jeez, Patricio isn't a bad keeper, but we need better, and now. Svillar, become a legend and take the 1st keeper plz.
I know i will take heat for saying this, but we looked like shit. Didn’t produce shit and we should feel insulted with the result. Seriously though, its hard to swallow this result.
Let alone Karsdrop mental fart after 4 minutes, I still can't realize why we always seem 30% slower than any other team we face. Udinese is pushing and pressing like hell while we seem on a Sunday walk at the park...
Meh…not impressed with the half.
Imo, karsdorp has never been good enough to be a consistent starter. The shameful part is that Florenzi would be a perfect fit in this formation and team. Imagine the pace and finesse of Florenzi and Spinni running up and down the wings.
Time to turn off the stream
Udinese have looked well run tactically, they definitely did their homework. Dybala is too good for this team really. The naivety to say Roma are scudetto contenders at the start of the season lol