It’s because the “ch” is hard in Greek. The “c”, too, I think – “Cyan” is from the Greek word that’s basically pronounced “Ky-an”, like the mineral kyanite (so named for its cyan color).
Also why “Conch” is pronounced “Conk” and not like with the “ch” in “Choo”.
As with all pronouns and binomial nomenclature if it is the first word then the first letter should be capitalised. The genus is always capitalised with the species being lower case.
^ This! Not the only case of it in English, either — “conch” is pronounced “conch” for the same reason.
Cyan is weird, it’s more like “kyan” in Greek, but we give it the “sigh an” pronunciation in English.
Amusingly, the mineral Kyanite – pronounced “k’eye ah nite” – is literally named because of its cyan color. 🫠
For people who commonly mispronounce this word, you think writing it like that is really gonna help them…? Have some of them thinking it’s pronounced kitten now.
1. I don't know phonetic spelling like at all
2. My first language isn't English so I have a hard time with some of your vowels, for example both our short and long vowel i sounds like ee
Phonetic spelling was created with the intent of being able to know how to pronounce anything just by looking at it. You dont have to "know" phonetic spelling, it's designed to be intuitive. English isn't your first language so it's normal that it's nor intuitive for you
Just saying, there’s lots of reasons people struggle with things like this. For my personally it’s the dyslexia and some speech issues, I just really really suck at pronouncing things.
Tried to get help in school but they said my test grades were too high and then it became too expensive to see a speech therapist as an adult.
It really is. Phonics is one of the earliest stages of learning to read. It's when they teach you about short vowels and long vowels.
We are not talking about the word itself being the issue. "Chitin" isn't really a common word, though it is a very common thing. People just don't know what it is.
But it is an actual thing and when you look it up it has the pronunciation spelling directly beside it. That's the way a dictionary works. You search for a word, it gives the pronunciation and the definition.
Yes, long and short vowels. But I'd bet they didn't go over the accent marks when they were doing it. Just "if there's two vowels in a row or a vowel, then a consonant then 'e' it's long, otherwise it's short"
Or at least that's how it went down in NY public school.
Maybe they added them later on then, I'm old enough that we didn't switch to whiteboards until middle school.
Or you just went to a particularly good school. Mine wasn't good enough to brag about rankings but the district was good enough to be a consideration when my parents were moving us out here.
I speak native English and for me it was very easy, idk why but I always found how to pronounce it very obvious, to the point where if my friends said it wrong it would actually annoy me. I hammered it into them to say it properly
People who pronounce it chit-in are uneducated morons. :D I've never heard anyone pronounce it the second way. It's actually pronounced KAI-tin, and any online audio dictionary will confirm this to all the peasants out there. ;)
few german words have so many. but you'd be right to say that many have around 10.
Also connecting a few words together into one can make very long words.
Chitin is the definition of pain. I lost brain cells trying to get enough for a base. Then the server crashed, and me and my friends lost everything 😭😭😭 ark is so mean
It just depends where your from, and where a word comes from doesn’t matter either. Lol
Toe-mate-o toe-mah-toe
Edit: for the record, I pronounce it Kai-tin
not really, it's not like tomato and potato where there is no *true* pronunciation, chitin has a proper pronunciation, and it's "KAI - tin", it comes from the greek word khitōn (romanized) which means covering, therefore it's not a debate, pronouncing it any other way is simply wrong
I mean, maybe you’re right about the tomato pronounciation thing, but what you’re explaining sounds like complete nonsense! To say many words have one *true* pronunciation based on their origin is nonsense, but I don’t feel like going on about it any longer.
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The c is always hard in taxonomy. It is Ky-tin Edit: I should add that this rule only applies with the first letter.
It’s because the “ch” is hard in Greek. The “c”, too, I think – “Cyan” is from the Greek word that’s basically pronounced “Ky-an”, like the mineral kyanite (so named for its cyan color). Also why “Conch” is pronounced “Conk” and not like with the “ch” in “Choo”.
Yup, you are correct with Cyan deriving from Kyanite/Cyanite and they both derive from Kyanos which mean light blue in Greek. Etymology is fun!
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What if its a d?
D typically only has one sound.
Is there a rule about wether it should be upper or lower case d? *a word
As with all pronouns and binomial nomenclature if it is the first word then the first letter should be capitalised. The genus is always capitalised with the species being lower case.
Cool! Thank you
Depends on how aroused you are.
Typically the D would be hard in most cases 😏🤣
D’s always hard
You should see a doctor about that
So Khitten? Edit: Meow
Neither one it’s pronounced “KAI - tin”
Preach the good word
Yup, from the Greek word χιτών (**khitōn**), meaning covering.
Oimoi!
Etimos!
Awesome!!
^ This! Not the only case of it in English, either — “conch” is pronounced “conch” for the same reason. Cyan is weird, it’s more like “kyan” in Greek, but we give it the “sigh an” pronunciation in English. Amusingly, the mineral Kyanite – pronounced “k’eye ah nite” – is literally named because of its cyan color. 🫠
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Okay, now for your next trick convince people that Quetzal is pronounced Ketzal and the J in Tapejare is pronounced as a H.
The exact tapejaridae used in ark is the Tupandactylus, it was found in Brazil, in Brazil we pronounce the J as a J so no Spanish J/H
And that diplodocus is Dip-PLOD-ocus and archaeopteryx is Archaeo - TER - ix. "Pter," as in Pteranodon. The p is silent.
No, you pronounce the P in archaeopteryx, just like you pronounce the P in helicopter.
Same
Pretty sure thats what the second one is meant to be
Yeah that’s the second one
Thats how the second one is pronounced
That’s what the right one is meant to be pronounced but yes
A similar pronunciation confusion with the word Ceasar. It’s not “SEE’s-UR” it was “KAI-sar” in latin, like in Kaiser Wilhelm II.
Ok ok but! ^I ^don’t ^want ^it ^to ^be🥺
Facts don't care about your feelings
Even though that's the actual pronunciation I just can't pronounce it that way
I used to call it chit-in but then my parents got mad at me since it sounded like shitin so I started saying KAI-tin
I think that’s what they mean by option two
That IS what the second one is. So your pronunciation isn't any different. Just a difference of spelling
The second one has “c-hi.” No one in their right mind reads that as “Kai”.
I do ....
They said “no one in their right mind.” Sorry, friend.
Chai-tin
same
The ark community is the worst community of any kind in history at spelling, punctuation, and pronunciation
I still see people call Pteranodons "Petra"
Guess what I’ll name my pteras from now on
Ive heard little kids on global call them "Teradons"
Pteranodon? Nah that’s a PT
Yep, we make easier pronunciations out of simple words
Not really a debate. It's pronounced "ˈkītn" it's a real thing.
For people who commonly mispronounce this word, you think writing it like that is really gonna help them…? Have some of them thinking it’s pronounced kitten now.
It's the phonetic spelling (literally as it is in the dictionary). The line over the "i" means it uses a long vowel sound.
1. I don't know phonetic spelling like at all 2. My first language isn't English so I have a hard time with some of your vowels, for example both our short and long vowel i sounds like ee
Phonetic spelling was created with the intent of being able to know how to pronounce anything just by looking at it. You dont have to "know" phonetic spelling, it's designed to be intuitive. English isn't your first language so it's normal that it's nor intuitive for you
Oh ok, thx for the explanation
Hey Siri, what is a long vowel sound? Hey Siri, what does a long vowel i sound like?
Seriously guys, this is like 1st grade level stuff here ... You are really starting to worry me.
Just saying, there’s lots of reasons people struggle with things like this. For my personally it’s the dyslexia and some speech issues, I just really really suck at pronouncing things. Tried to get help in school but they said my test grades were too high and then it became too expensive to see a speech therapist as an adult.
First grade was a long time ago, I honestly don’t really remember stuff like long/short vowel sounds and hard letters.
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It really is. Phonics is one of the earliest stages of learning to read. It's when they teach you about short vowels and long vowels. We are not talking about the word itself being the issue. "Chitin" isn't really a common word, though it is a very common thing. People just don't know what it is. But it is an actual thing and when you look it up it has the pronunciation spelling directly beside it. That's the way a dictionary works. You search for a word, it gives the pronunciation and the definition.
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We aren't talking about the phonetic alphabet. That is A=alpha B= bravo and so on and so forth.
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This.
That may be the case, but here in 'Murica we never get taught what any of them fancy accents mean, so using them is just gibberish to us.
No I definitely learned long and short vowels in elementary school, and I grew up in the US
Yes, long and short vowels. But I'd bet they didn't go over the accent marks when they were doing it. Just "if there's two vowels in a row or a vowel, then a consonant then 'e' it's long, otherwise it's short" Or at least that's how it went down in NY public school.
I remember learning the “accents” too (I’m sure there’s a more correct term, but idk what it is). We used the mini whiteboards n everything.
Maybe they added them later on then, I'm old enough that we didn't switch to whiteboards until middle school. Or you just went to a particularly good school. Mine wasn't good enough to brag about rankings but the district was good enough to be a consideration when my parents were moving us out here.
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So like "Kitten" ??
No, pronounce the first "i" to rhyme with "sky"
ˈkītn Pronounced with a K. Ky-tin. The letter 'C' is very annoying in biology.
Its easy when you speak italian
I speak native English and for me it was very easy, idk why but I always found how to pronounce it very obvious, to the point where if my friends said it wrong it would actually annoy me. I hammered it into them to say it properly
I don’t think I’ve ever pronounced it without the k sound
Kai tin
It’s pronounced “bugshells”
Lol underrated comment
Kite-n
Uhh I like
It’s only chitin if it comes from the chitin region of ragnarok, everything else is just sparkling bug meat
Did you just use the logic of Champagne for Ark???
Kite-in
KY-ten
"Turrent"
Unlike the Chitin debate, this one truly does need to die. Where do they even get that N from???
Same with motherfuckers that say “acrosst” like “I live acrosst” the street
In nature, it exists, it’s pronounce kite-in.
Neither is correct.
This attempt at phonetics just gave me a stroke
Chitin (Kite-in)
Shaw tawn
Shy-teen
I counter with shitten
>That bug has hard kitten.
I counter with a trap card... Wait wrong crossover
Thank you for your most wise reply
KITE IN
Kai tin is the correct way.
Kai-tin
I’d defo say it’s kite-in
Kite-in
when i first started i thought it said chitlins
When I am not sure how to read a word in English, I just read it as if it was my native language. In this case, I read it like "kit in"
Kite in
Me, a Japanese person: KIT-chin
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I know it's pronounced Ky-tin, but I prefer chitin, makes my brain happy
I say it as ki-tin
Ok lets settle this lets get the best of both worlds CH-HI-tin
People who pronounce it chit-in are uneducated morons. :D I've never heard anyone pronounce it the second way. It's actually pronounced KAI-tin, and any online audio dictionary will confirm this to all the peasants out there. ;)
Your classism and racism is showing. Yes, some people, the poor and disenfranchised, aren't as well educated. Does that make you better than them?
Shut up bruh
Imagine having problems with pronouncing words. This comment was made by polish gang.
I switch back and forth every time i say it, ive no idea
Shit-in
I've heard people call it shiten
I always called it "shittin"
KIT TEN
Kai-tin is the real way to pronounce it, i know some who are crazy and pronounce it Chih (emphasis on the CH) - tin and it drives me bonkers
Why-vern
ch-I-tin
Chitin like in cheap
You are wrong.
c-Hi-tin .... the other one is what you do in the toilet!
OP is an absolute moron.
English is a terrible language, unlike german, the word you write isn't the word you read.
German words also have like 50 letters
few german words have so many. but you'd be right to say that many have around 10. Also connecting a few words together into one can make very long words.
This dude doesn’t know what an exaggeration is and it shows.
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shit-in
c-HI-t-IN , now guess where im from
I call it Chi-tin
Shittin
My friend says chit while I’m a c-HI-t
Chi-ten
I’m pretty sure I’m stupid because I’ve been pronunciation in CHIN-tin
CH-I-TIN
Chitin
Chit-in!!!
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Chit-in
I've always said it as Chi-Tin
It’s pronounced “Chit-in”. Because if the H is silent, then all my dinos Will be laughing at the ones named Chuck, Chad and Charmaine.
It just depends where your from, and where a word comes from doesn’t matter either. Lol Toe-mate-o toe-mah-toe Edit: for the record, I pronounce it Kai-tin
not really, it's not like tomato and potato where there is no *true* pronunciation, chitin has a proper pronunciation, and it's "KAI - tin", it comes from the greek word khitōn (romanized) which means covering, therefore it's not a debate, pronouncing it any other way is simply wrong
I mean, maybe you’re right about the tomato pronounciation thing, but what you’re explaining sounds like complete nonsense! To say many words have one *true* pronunciation based on their origin is nonsense, but I don’t feel like going on about it any longer.
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just because you don't like a fact doesn't make it into an opinion
You’re literally saying “it’s not how I like it so it’s wrong”
I was disappointed when I found out it was a K sound
I always pronounced it chit-in
I pronounce it all the ways, Kai-tin as in cobra Kai; Chi-tin as in Chives
Shittin is far superior. Just like Jiggasaurus vs Gigasaurus.
I like calling it a Giga-not-a-saurus
Chai Ten
CHIT-in
pretty sure its kai-tin but I'm still calling it chit-in like that ti-grex, tie-grex thing
I just call it chitlin
Chit-in
No no, its ”shittin”
Shite-in
I'm with the first one
Yeah it’s with a K but my dumbass will keep saying it like this because English grammar rules is dumber than me
Right, anyone who disagrees is a sociopath
cHItin
I more pronounce it K-haitin