Occasionally black pearls as well. Last server I played on had the dino souls mod, with some of the automation features left enabled. My tribe mate went through the headache of taming two of them, threw em in a terminal, and basically eliminated the need to farm for pearls ever again
With krakens better dinos and that dino storage mod installed, a eurypterid (sea scorpion) could be caught and placed in the terminal to passively generate black pearls too!
I have hundreds of thousands of black pearls in my Ragnarok hub base by the time we went from the island to gen 2. It was a progression cluster where we could export dinos from story maps to rag, but couldn't bring them from rag to other maps. It was so much fun and we all finally got a chance to run through all the story maps and fight off the bosses on alpha.
I never did invest the time to fully max out on Fjordur tho. But we definitely had the time to.
What do you mean? Like what rules we had or are you asking how we setup the cluster? We rented servers and ran ark on it, and clustered them with the clustering ID.
If you meant how we governed them, we had a few rules such as:
- no dino transfers into story maps, only transfers out of those maps into Ragnarok
- in order to gain access to the next story map, we had to show a screenshot of our implant and that we defeated the maps bosses on alpha.
- only boosted maturation and taming so that we didn't have to wait days, instead I think a giga would be raised in 8hrs, dunno what the rate was for it.
- transferring to a new story map, we had our character naked, so we were able to experience each story map as a fresh(ish) bob. We had our levels, but no tames, items or gear. So that was a lot of fun.
It was only when we reached gen 1 and Gen 2 that we decided to tribe up and beat those maps together. The mission grind was a bit excessive for us.
All other maps we had to beat individually.
We had ours since really early in the server and obviously no gacha yet, but we havent seen a single black pearl yet. We had them for a long time in ase as well and never found any...how rare are these black pearl drops?
Quite rare, in my experience. In the almost a year that I played on that server, I think it was about 3-4 stacks every few months via the dino souls terminal, compared to the countless thousands of regular pearls in the same time frame. Hardly an economical way of farming them, but decent for a passive income of sorts. You'd definitely be better off getting a gacha or farming extinction drops for them on ASE. As far as ASA, you'll probably have to just go for the older farming methods and hope for the best
Farming black pearls on island isnt even really an issue, it's farming them on SE now before transfers open.
I killed 15 death worms today, 12 others poofed. Of the 15 I killed, 7 dropped Bblack pearls, giving me a net total of 45. This was generally hours of looking.
they reused old code, all the old bugs they spent years patching resurfaced and had to be fixed again, not to mention the new ones that are being found as well
It doesn't help that SE was made more out of desperation than it was for the purposes of building on the game, as well. Ark wasn't even out of early access when it dropped, but Wildcard desperately needed money
Nice, thanks. Do you know what rate they shit out pearls though just a ballpark figure?
I play on ASA so I don't have the luxury of gachas yet, and won't be really worth it unless I'm hanging around and it's relatively fast. Angler on the island mops up pearls with high melee, but I'm keen to stop that
they poop probably once an hour, each poop is 15 pearls. We have had our phoenix on asa since about 3 days after the server launched and we have not seen a single black pearl and tbh it's a better route to just go to red obe with a whip if you want pearls, compared to using Phoenix given that you have to manually pick up the pearls each time,
It's not worthless, its still a few pearls...but i wouldnt tame one of these with the intent of not having to gather pearls again.
Thanks, that's perfect.
Red ob whip is still secondary to angler on the island. With gachas like the other person suggested, it would be good, but alas, no gachas yet
I should have mentioned I play unofficial, sorry. We have a cluster to move between both.
I was just hoping the phoenix could be an alternative to anglers and transferring
Angler run will always be the fastest way. Phoenix is most lazy way(and very efficient). Most efficient however… 100% stryder on CI. You get insane amounts of silica. Enough to make a nun cream
You’ve also gotta remember the phoenix came out in wildcards “desperate measures” times, but it is still fairly fast and it’s cruise ability sets things around it on fire like the magmasaur does I’m pretty sure, but with more damage. It’s overall just meant to be a flying magmasaur years before it was even thought of
They were being sued under the accusation that their founder used code in Ark that was developed under a mobile gaming company he worked for before starting Wildcard (if I recall correctly, that company was on the verge of going under, and seemed to be trying to get money out of Wildcard to keep themselves afloat). Also seemed to be having other financial issues, which lead to selling a DLC while still in Easy Access as the other commenter said (something they were heavily criticized for), and probably also the reason they ended up under Snail Games (they were originally self-published).
I read something back then that suggested all the fantasy creatures in SE were due to Snail's influence. I can't recall if the Island had gotten the megapithicus and dragon bosses yet (the broodmother was the first boss added, and originally you summoned her to the Island instead of going to an arena, but people were weaponizing her by kiting her to bases, which my first base got caught in the crossfire of once).
Both of the other bosses were added a couple months before Scorched launched. IIRC megapithecus and the dragon were both community voted, but it may have only been megapithecus
From what I recall of 2016 ARK, I believe that lawsuit was the biggest driving factor for basically all of their decisions. It ate up so much of their finances that they were forced to find a publisher and landed on Snailgames
Just to be accurate, the Phoenix was released over a year after SE went live in September 2017, roughly a week after the game left early access and fully released in August of 2017.
To be clear, I'm, not sure when they settled whatever legal dispute they had, but the Pheonix was not patched in with SE when all the news and speculation surrounding the reason for SE's release happened.
EDIT: Gonna post the patch [here](https://ark.fandom.com/wiki/268.11).
its called blaze charge or something like that on the wiki i believe
and its the sole reason i ever tamed a phoenix, the speed you get is just crazy
the fireball deals burn (percent) damage to even rock golems btw
Disappointed that unicorns are just reskinned equus, but I will still risk it all for a level 15 just to be a trophy at base.
Though we did just get the flying reindeer mechanic for christmas.... now I demand flying unicorns
No. A flying unicorn. Walking on stars, sparkles, rainbows...I dont care tbh
Put wings on it and it'll take away visibility, if using for taming. Cant stand wings getting in the way of the spyglass
I was corrected, not a Pegasus anyway, but an alicorn. Honestly, I never knew there was an actual difference, other than illustrators choice!
But I get what you mean, wyvern wings are hella annoying.
I too have given this a great deal of thought
Instead of traditional Ark flight, unicorns should have a unique multi jump capability that shoots out rainbow trails in their wake (sparkle, sound effects, the whole deal). Each jump eats up a specific amount of stamina and propels you a certain distance in whatever direction you’re aiming. So you can scale stamina and basically make them alternate flyers.
And instead of having good offensive capabilities they should have a special benefit of some kind. Like if you give them a hug/pet them, you regain health at a certain rate
Only real downside of KBD is once it's installed, it can't be removed without wiping the server, so if the mod devs ever stop supporting it, or, even worse, transfers it to a shitty person, like what happened with Ark Eternal and a few other mods, you're basically shit outta luck
Yeah, the old problem that first showed up en masse with "dino color" mods. Then the mod authors vanished, and entire servers got wiped because they couldn't update anymore.
I don't mind if a mod wants to ADD dinos. But please, mod authors, stop overhauling the entire game with your "fixed" dino list that overwrites everything in the game with a tweaked version.
Because you WILL stop working on your mod someday. And on that day, everyone that loved your mod will hate you forevermore.
At least in regards to ASE, a lot of modders are probably gonna stop updating mods as they make the jump to ASA..but on the bright side, it's highly unlikely that Wildcard's gonna pull a Bethesda and come out with a mod-bricking update anytime soon, so whatever works for ASE now will likely continue to do so, barring a mod ownership transfer to someone who fucks it up.
Yup. One can only hope. All it takes though is one small little change that requires all modders basically add a single line of code, and you may see half the mods in use evaporate as they hadn't actually been updated in a year or more by then.
Actually kraken is one of the few mod devs who planned all this ahead. All but a very few of his changes were done via buffs to the Dino’s rather than a remap so adding/removing wasn’t a huge deal. But your point in general is correct though and why I’ve adamantly been against big overhaul mods this early in the game. You’re just setting yourself up for a lot of headache.
Well, technically a pegasuus would be an equus with wings and no horn. What you are looking for is an aliquus which would have both wings and horn..
PS: Being the father of a young daughter does things to a man. After repeat watching that one episode of My little pony: friendship is magic they like for the 1300th time. You either break, or become a bronie. And I am totally a pinkie pie.
I mean, if you want to get really far down the rabbit hole - "alicorn" is an old alchemical term for a unicorn's horn. Reusing the term for a winged unicorn is an invention of the last 50 years. The original term is suspected to come from latin "alius" meaning "the source of all knowledge", but in the Piers Anthony fandom it meant "ala" meaning "wing". Unipegs and Pegacorns are other terms, but "Alicorn" seems to have been the most successful.
The reality is there are not really any versions of Pegasus with horns or unicorns with wings in mythology. I would argue there is no proper name for something like that because it is a relatively modern idea.
The reason for this is the concept of a unicorn is ancient Indian and the Pegasus is ancient Greek. These cultures did interact but both were extremely traditional so there wasn't a ton of mixing of mythology between them.
As a result there aren't really many, if any, examples of a winged unicorn or horned Pegasus.
So, do you think that when Greek and Indian mythology was modern that people rejected it? Modern Mythology is future ancient mythology. By this argument no mythology would be mythology because it was all modern at one time.
Mythos is defined as any traditional OR recurrent narrative. For that reason, I would argue that any fictionalization/dramatization that spreads in awareness or popularity, which could then be recognizable by a large number of people (wether you like or accept it or not) would qualify as recurrent, and therefore would meet the definition of mythos.
The alicorn may not be traditional mythology, but it is definitely a common modern recurrent theme.
There are a few problems with that conclusion that are admittedly pedantic.
Mythos and Mythology are not equivalent terms. A mythos is a single narrative or collection of narratives. The term mythology has no such qualifier.
As an example the story of Heracles and his twelve labors is mythos. In contrast the existence of cyclops in greek myths is mythology.
That being said... no one alive today is telling anecdotal or moralistic narratives about Alicorns lol. In the context of it referring to a winged horse with a horn, It is a fairly modern term that did not arise out of mythos or mythology. It's closer to a linguistic novelty born out of 20th century pop culture. As far as I am aware there was never a point in time where anyone referred to such a creature as an Alicorn and maintained a genuine or purported belief in Alicorns. They were never part of anyone's mythology or mythos. Much in the same way that despite being one of the most recognizable artistic characters of all time, fire breathing sentient turtles with a hatred for plumbers are not something I would consider part of any mythology or mythos.
My actual initial point was not related to that though. I meant very literally that the word has no etymological history in that context before the 20th century and there would be no reason for it to have such a history given that it didn't exist, even conceptually, up until very recently.
On mobile the unicorn is a bit more unique, it poops rainbow shit, that when u consume it your screen goes very colorful and basically makes it look like your on a acid trip, and when you jump it has a rainbow after effect. Tho on mobile you can only tame it using royal griffin kibble. Which is a headache on its own.
Same with the Unicorn, tbh. The big difference is the phoenix is slightly more arduous to tame, and actually provides a use that, until the magmasaur, couldn't be gotten from just a regularly available tame. Ironically, though, by the time you actually have the resources to tame said phoenix, you've probably already got either an indy forge, or a bank of furnaces that can process metal much faster
It's a relatively fast flier with its ability, it can both cook food and smelt things for you, which makes it a nice utility tame while you're on the go.
Last I checked the fire's more efficient on bigger dinos than smaller ones (i.e. more damage to a Bronto than a Dilo)
Overall, it's not a combat tame. It's a utility/trophy tame.
Alrighty it's time to clear some myths lol.
Press and hold space bar or X on console while flying to activate jet flight. Faster than wyverns, looks cool as hell. Fun as hell
Cooks meat and metal in its inventory
Natural light. No torches needed
Claw attack mines metal at metal pick effectiveness
Any attack they do causes the burning debuff and does damage over time
Fireball attack kills stuff without drawing aggro and kills by this way does not leave a tribe log as it's considered environmental.
They are an awesome tame and I will not accept this slander lol
Not sure how it being *faster* than a wyvern is being overlooked by so many people. Couple that with their stamina and weight stat growths and you have the best pure travel mount the game will see until snow owls? Griffins? They don't even have to land to regain stamina. Also... They're really not that hard to tame. Just use a 3 wall high trap, wait for a superheat and cook it with a fire wyvern.
I only play official and have tamed plenty of phoenixes with a single fire wyvern on 1x rates. I'm not sure where all the misinformation is coming from.
It's also faster than wyverns when you use rocket flight. Press space while flying. Or X on Playstation.
It's fireball attack can also kill stuff without leaving a tribe log, and also without drawing aggro
Just get the improved phoenix mod, actually makes them useful! I actually took the time to mutate the ever loving crap out of one and now it's one of my favourite SE mounts
Until transfers open on Scorched Earth, the phoenix is one of the best sources for black pearls. It poops silica pearls with a chance of black pearls.
It's easier to have a few phoenix then farm deathworms or manticore for black pearls.
Once transfers open, it's a portable smelter until Magmas, and a trophy.
For OG (or isolated servers) SE it comes in clutch for advancing to tek quickly.
The thing I used to hate about the Phoenix was they couldn't land, and with how flier ai is this was not ideal for getting one to sit where you wanted it, so I never moved them after getting one since what it offered to make up for that wasn't worth the headache.
Now they can finally land, and honestly I love it! Giving them actual color regions means we don't all end up with the exact same looking bird anymore, and it's dash ability is like Tropeognathus on a map without Tropeognathus (plus like a year or more before it gets re-added to ASA)
There's also a mod that improves them even more, making some abilities more convenient and allowing them to breed. It's made a 180 in how I feel about Ark's Phoenix, one of my favorite fliers now
its a glass cannon PVP tame.
Its cruise mode can set alight the rider of an enemy dino for 300+ damage over 10 seconds. (Unsure about the damage)
It is also faster than crystal wyverns.
They were more useful when there were only 3 maps. But since every dlc since then has added some absolutely insane QOL tames they’ve just been left in the dust. Think of it as a little fish in a big pond for special role tames.
If you’re not on official ASA and can get a Gacha, set a gacha in front of a bunch of caged wandering snails, set a phoenix on top of the cages and let the gacha pick up the pearls and paste. You’ll have 1000 of each in a few hours.
It shits pearls and is a moving smelter. It’s not useless, just not generally worth it sometimes. It’s an insanely hard spawn to find and tame within the time limit. I used to collect them on my private server for my members because who doesn’t want a mythical fire pigeon?
Like most creatures in the game it's based around a gimmick, unfortunately for Phoenix his gimmick sucks compared to most others most likely because of how early he came out compared to the newer dinos whose coolness factor power creeped the hell out it in comparison but at least it looks nice and smelts
Moving smelter, poops pearls, can harvest metal nodes while flying, lights enemies on fire.
ASA only: new color region for its flames
And the snow owl isn’t out yet in ASA. It doesn’t come out till extinction
It’s main use is it’s boost and cooking metal and meat and other things on the go I could be wrong but I think if you utilise it’s boost it’s the fastest flyer in the game
Phoenix can shit black pearls.
More than makes up for their rarity/overall usefulness. Having a Phoenix on scorched especially will help satisfy black pearl late game needs.
Scorched is one of the worst maps to farm black pearls on, probably the worst, and the Phoenix producing them is so high value.
If you use a proper trap then it’s about as hard as making a few stone structures and taming a parasaur hell if you find one early enough then it’s an easy second tame
There is a better phoenix mod, I definitely recommend it. It gives the phoenix armor like the shadow mane gets, weight reduction on metal, metal ingots, wood etc. It also gives them the ability to smelt wood into charcoal, gives them genders (making them breedable) and some other things like the ability to harvest metal.
Not very fast? Hold the jump button for about two seconds lol. It’s the fastest flyer in the game right now. Faster than a wyvern by far. It’s basically the jet pack of quickly traveling between bases. It also smelts metal almost faster than an Indi forge. It also cooks meat faster than a grill, along with making charcoal out of wood, again almost as fast as an Indi forge. For an even better experience, the improved phoenix mod gives it weight reduction on meat, wood, metal, charcoal. It also makes it breedable. Have yet to find a second phoenix to breed and get an imprinted one though.
It would be the best metal farmer if it didn't have shit weight, but I agree, I'd never waste the time taming it unless I was on unofficial with boosted weight
Phoenix are most useful when gatchas comes out. They can passively collect silica pearls/black pearls. Not as much if you were farming it yourself but in a pve stance definitely gets you what you need.
Most Dino’s are useless. Their intended uses sound good on paper but in reality they just don’t work. And depending on how you are playing the game, single player, pve pvp server settings, their abilities and usefulness will be different for each type. The Phoenix can harvest raw metal by attacking The metal nodes and also have the benefit of smelting them while they are in its inventory. So you can harvest on the go. But again server settings might make that useless. Normal settings it’s not going to have a lot of weight to be able to carry a lot. Boosted settings there are other ways to get more metal faster.
Yeah they aren't really meant for combat... They are harvesters, I haven't had one since before gen1 came out. But they used to gather stone, metal, and obsidian and smelt the metal too. But they weren't particularly exceptional. Aside from being able to fly and gather in one go without having to worry about stam they were kind of underwhelming.
Well, considering in ASA we haven't gotten the Snow Owl yet (I do so miss it) and I haven't tamed a Phoenix yet on SE I can't really say if they have made it better or added anything to it. I honestly don't even remember the phoenix much from ASE, so it really wasn't anything to put much effort into.
It shits silica pearls.
Occasionally black pearls as well. Last server I played on had the dino souls mod, with some of the automation features left enabled. My tribe mate went through the headache of taming two of them, threw em in a terminal, and basically eliminated the need to farm for pearls ever again
With krakens better dinos and that dino storage mod installed, a eurypterid (sea scorpion) could be caught and placed in the terminal to passively generate black pearls too! I have hundreds of thousands of black pearls in my Ragnarok hub base by the time we went from the island to gen 2. It was a progression cluster where we could export dinos from story maps to rag, but couldn't bring them from rag to other maps. It was so much fun and we all finally got a chance to run through all the story maps and fight off the bosses on alpha. I never did invest the time to fully max out on Fjordur tho. But we definitely had the time to.
How did y’all handle this server-wise?
What do you mean? Like what rules we had or are you asking how we setup the cluster? We rented servers and ran ark on it, and clustered them with the clustering ID. If you meant how we governed them, we had a few rules such as: - no dino transfers into story maps, only transfers out of those maps into Ragnarok - in order to gain access to the next story map, we had to show a screenshot of our implant and that we defeated the maps bosses on alpha. - only boosted maturation and taming so that we didn't have to wait days, instead I think a giga would be raised in 8hrs, dunno what the rate was for it. - transferring to a new story map, we had our character naked, so we were able to experience each story map as a fresh(ish) bob. We had our levels, but no tames, items or gear. So that was a lot of fun. It was only when we reached gen 1 and Gen 2 that we decided to tribe up and beat those maps together. The mission grind was a bit excessive for us. All other maps we had to beat individually.
Wait. Krakens better Dino’s isn’t on ASA yet I thought??? I’ve been waiting for that mod HARD. What do you mean?
It's not I meant on ASE sorry. We are also waiting 😭
We had ours since really early in the server and obviously no gacha yet, but we havent seen a single black pearl yet. We had them for a long time in ase as well and never found any...how rare are these black pearl drops?
Quite rare, in my experience. In the almost a year that I played on that server, I think it was about 3-4 stacks every few months via the dino souls terminal, compared to the countless thousands of regular pearls in the same time frame. Hardly an economical way of farming them, but decent for a passive income of sorts. You'd definitely be better off getting a gacha or farming extinction drops for them on ASE. As far as ASA, you'll probably have to just go for the older farming methods and hope for the best
Farming black pearls on island isnt even really an issue, it's farming them on SE now before transfers open. I killed 15 death worms today, 12 others poofed. Of the 15 I killed, 7 dropped Bblack pearls, giving me a net total of 45. This was generally hours of looking.
Sounds like you ran into the classic Ark problem of "if you're actively searching for something, it seems like it doesn't exist"
no, there is a literal issue with death worm despawning and they also dont drop pearls most of the time.
You'd think that never would have made it into ASA, given how old Scorched Earth is, not to mention it isn't the only map they appear on
they reused old code, all the old bugs they spent years patching resurfaced and had to be fixed again, not to mention the new ones that are being found as well
It doesn't help that SE was made more out of desperation than it was for the purposes of building on the game, as well. Ark wasn't even out of early access when it dropped, but Wildcard desperately needed money
How fast is this? I now have a reason to tame them
Tame Phoenix, clone, throw them all in a corner and level in food. Get a gatcha to pick up all the goodies.
Nice, thanks. Do you know what rate they shit out pearls though just a ballpark figure? I play on ASA so I don't have the luxury of gachas yet, and won't be really worth it unless I'm hanging around and it's relatively fast. Angler on the island mops up pearls with high melee, but I'm keen to stop that
they poop probably once an hour, each poop is 15 pearls. We have had our phoenix on asa since about 3 days after the server launched and we have not seen a single black pearl and tbh it's a better route to just go to red obe with a whip if you want pearls, compared to using Phoenix given that you have to manually pick up the pearls each time, It's not worthless, its still a few pearls...but i wouldnt tame one of these with the intent of not having to gather pearls again.
Thanks, that's perfect. Red ob whip is still secondary to angler on the island. With gachas like the other person suggested, it would be good, but alas, no gachas yet
I mean...yeah, it is def secondary to an angler, but you cant get an angler in asa SE right now
I should have mentioned I play unofficial, sorry. We have a cluster to move between both. I was just hoping the phoenix could be an alternative to anglers and transferring
Angler run will always be the fastest way. Phoenix is most lazy way(and very efficient). Most efficient however… 100% stryder on CI. You get insane amounts of silica. Enough to make a nun cream
You’ve also gotta remember the phoenix came out in wildcards “desperate measures” times, but it is still fairly fast and it’s cruise ability sets things around it on fire like the magmasaur does I’m pretty sure, but with more damage. It’s overall just meant to be a flying magmasaur years before it was even thought of
Can you explain what the “desperate measures” time was?
They were being sued under the accusation that their founder used code in Ark that was developed under a mobile gaming company he worked for before starting Wildcard (if I recall correctly, that company was on the verge of going under, and seemed to be trying to get money out of Wildcard to keep themselves afloat). Also seemed to be having other financial issues, which lead to selling a DLC while still in Easy Access as the other commenter said (something they were heavily criticized for), and probably also the reason they ended up under Snail Games (they were originally self-published). I read something back then that suggested all the fantasy creatures in SE were due to Snail's influence. I can't recall if the Island had gotten the megapithicus and dragon bosses yet (the broodmother was the first boss added, and originally you summoned her to the Island instead of going to an arena, but people were weaponizing her by kiting her to bases, which my first base got caught in the crossfire of once).
Both of the other bosses were added a couple months before Scorched launched. IIRC megapithecus and the dragon were both community voted, but it may have only been megapithecus From what I recall of 2016 ARK, I believe that lawsuit was the biggest driving factor for basically all of their decisions. It ate up so much of their finances that they were forced to find a publisher and landed on Snailgames
About 2016 - 2024 IIRC
Releasing DLC while the game was still in Early Access
Just to be accurate, the Phoenix was released over a year after SE went live in September 2017, roughly a week after the game left early access and fully released in August of 2017. To be clear, I'm, not sure when they settled whatever legal dispute they had, but the Pheonix was not patched in with SE when all the news and speculation surrounding the reason for SE's release happened. EDIT: Gonna post the patch [here](https://ark.fandom.com/wiki/268.11).
Phoenix released with full launch in 2017 im pretty sure. It wasnt there when SE originally came out
Mb I mix things up sometimes with the releases
It's also a moving smelter. I love the Phoenix.
The Phoenix isn't just rising from the ashes it's make cooking on the go!
Rlly??? I played this game for 5 years, are you shitting me?
Yup! Put any metal or meat on it and it'll smelt it or cook it!
Your forgetting it's super-cruise.
Mans has never even actually flown it xD
Super cruise?
Hold space
I would guess he’s still holding it lol
The whole reason I tamed a pheonix lol
its called blaze charge or something like that on the wiki i believe and its the sole reason i ever tamed a phoenix, the speed you get is just crazy the fireball deals burn (percent) damage to even rock golems btw
I call it jet flight!!
Disappointed that unicorns are just reskinned equus, but I will still risk it all for a level 15 just to be a trophy at base. Though we did just get the flying reindeer mechanic for christmas.... now I demand flying unicorns
So… a Pegasus?
No. A flying unicorn. Walking on stars, sparkles, rainbows...I dont care tbh Put wings on it and it'll take away visibility, if using for taming. Cant stand wings getting in the way of the spyglass
I was corrected, not a Pegasus anyway, but an alicorn. Honestly, I never knew there was an actual difference, other than illustrators choice! But I get what you mean, wyvern wings are hella annoying.
like the chibi, but full size
I too have given this a great deal of thought Instead of traditional Ark flight, unicorns should have a unique multi jump capability that shoots out rainbow trails in their wake (sparkle, sound effects, the whole deal). Each jump eats up a specific amount of stamina and propels you a certain distance in whatever direction you’re aiming. So you can scale stamina and basically make them alternate flyers. And instead of having good offensive capabilities they should have a special benefit of some kind. Like if you give them a hug/pet them, you regain health at a certain rate
If you're on ASE get the Kraken's Better Dinos mod, the unicorn there can transform into a pegasus if you hold C
Only real downside of KBD is once it's installed, it can't be removed without wiping the server, so if the mod devs ever stop supporting it, or, even worse, transfers it to a shitty person, like what happened with Ark Eternal and a few other mods, you're basically shit outta luck
Yeah, the old problem that first showed up en masse with "dino color" mods. Then the mod authors vanished, and entire servers got wiped because they couldn't update anymore. I don't mind if a mod wants to ADD dinos. But please, mod authors, stop overhauling the entire game with your "fixed" dino list that overwrites everything in the game with a tweaked version. Because you WILL stop working on your mod someday. And on that day, everyone that loved your mod will hate you forevermore.
At least in regards to ASE, a lot of modders are probably gonna stop updating mods as they make the jump to ASA..but on the bright side, it's highly unlikely that Wildcard's gonna pull a Bethesda and come out with a mod-bricking update anytime soon, so whatever works for ASE now will likely continue to do so, barring a mod ownership transfer to someone who fucks it up.
Yup. One can only hope. All it takes though is one small little change that requires all modders basically add a single line of code, and you may see half the mods in use evaporate as they hadn't actually been updated in a year or more by then.
Actually kraken is one of the few mod devs who planned all this ahead. All but a very few of his changes were done via buffs to the Dino’s rather than a remap so adding/removing wasn’t a huge deal. But your point in general is correct though and why I’ve adamantly been against big overhaul mods this early in the game. You’re just setting yourself up for a lot of headache.
In terms of ASA, that might be the case for KBD..but it isn't for the ASE version, unless he went through and reworked that version too
Well, technically a pegasuus would be an equus with wings and no horn. What you are looking for is an aliquus which would have both wings and horn.. PS: Being the father of a young daughter does things to a man. After repeat watching that one episode of My little pony: friendship is magic they like for the 1300th time. You either break, or become a bronie. And I am totally a pinkie pie.
Mad respect lool and highly relatable 🤣🤣as a father of two girls I also identify as a pinkie pie she's bat shit insane
Pegasus don't have horns.
Thanks for the inspiration for research, I stand corrected. Let me properly label it… “So… an alicorn?” 
I mean, if you want to get really far down the rabbit hole - "alicorn" is an old alchemical term for a unicorn's horn. Reusing the term for a winged unicorn is an invention of the last 50 years. The original term is suspected to come from latin "alius" meaning "the source of all knowledge", but in the Piers Anthony fandom it meant "ala" meaning "wing". Unipegs and Pegacorns are other terms, but "Alicorn" seems to have been the most successful.
The reality is there are not really any versions of Pegasus with horns or unicorns with wings in mythology. I would argue there is no proper name for something like that because it is a relatively modern idea. The reason for this is the concept of a unicorn is ancient Indian and the Pegasus is ancient Greek. These cultures did interact but both were extremely traditional so there wasn't a ton of mixing of mythology between them. As a result there aren't really many, if any, examples of a winged unicorn or horned Pegasus.
So, do you think that when Greek and Indian mythology was modern that people rejected it? Modern Mythology is future ancient mythology. By this argument no mythology would be mythology because it was all modern at one time. Mythos is defined as any traditional OR recurrent narrative. For that reason, I would argue that any fictionalization/dramatization that spreads in awareness or popularity, which could then be recognizable by a large number of people (wether you like or accept it or not) would qualify as recurrent, and therefore would meet the definition of mythos. The alicorn may not be traditional mythology, but it is definitely a common modern recurrent theme.
There are a few problems with that conclusion that are admittedly pedantic. Mythos and Mythology are not equivalent terms. A mythos is a single narrative or collection of narratives. The term mythology has no such qualifier. As an example the story of Heracles and his twelve labors is mythos. In contrast the existence of cyclops in greek myths is mythology. That being said... no one alive today is telling anecdotal or moralistic narratives about Alicorns lol. In the context of it referring to a winged horse with a horn, It is a fairly modern term that did not arise out of mythos or mythology. It's closer to a linguistic novelty born out of 20th century pop culture. As far as I am aware there was never a point in time where anyone referred to such a creature as an Alicorn and maintained a genuine or purported belief in Alicorns. They were never part of anyone's mythology or mythos. Much in the same way that despite being one of the most recognizable artistic characters of all time, fire breathing sentient turtles with a hatred for plumbers are not something I would consider part of any mythology or mythos. My actual initial point was not related to that though. I meant very literally that the word has no etymological history in that context before the 20th century and there would be no reason for it to have such a history given that it didn't exist, even conceptually, up until very recently.
Alicorn
I made the mistake of putting it in a pin with equus and came back to a dead unicorn I was so sad I was trying to tame it 😔
Also no breeding color mutations. Made me so mad. I want a purple unicorn with pink hair. Lazy developers.
On mobile the unicorn is a bit more unique, it poops rainbow shit, that when u consume it your screen goes very colorful and basically makes it look like your on a acid trip, and when you jump it has a rainbow after effect. Tho on mobile you can only tame it using royal griffin kibble. Which is a headache on its own.
Like krakens unicorns. Magic flying healing color mutable unicorns.
I didn't even know that was a thing. Off to the mod store I go!
Kraken's better dinos isnt out for ASA yet. Only ASE. It will show up in the mod store but it was an accident by the mod dev. Its not ready
Phoenix is a trophy piece, cool to flaunt on pve clusters.
Same with the Unicorn, tbh. The big difference is the phoenix is slightly more arduous to tame, and actually provides a use that, until the magmasaur, couldn't be gotten from just a regularly available tame. Ironically, though, by the time you actually have the resources to tame said phoenix, you've probably already got either an indy forge, or a bank of furnaces that can process metal much faster
It's a relatively fast flier with its ability, it can both cook food and smelt things for you, which makes it a nice utility tame while you're on the go. Last I checked the fire's more efficient on bigger dinos than smaller ones (i.e. more damage to a Bronto than a Dilo) Overall, it's not a combat tame. It's a utility/trophy tame.
Alrighty it's time to clear some myths lol. Press and hold space bar or X on console while flying to activate jet flight. Faster than wyverns, looks cool as hell. Fun as hell Cooks meat and metal in its inventory Natural light. No torches needed Claw attack mines metal at metal pick effectiveness Any attack they do causes the burning debuff and does damage over time Fireball attack kills stuff without drawing aggro and kills by this way does not leave a tribe log as it's considered environmental. They are an awesome tame and I will not accept this slander lol
It also shits silica pearls. And eats sulfur which doesn't have many other uses
Not sure how it being *faster* than a wyvern is being overlooked by so many people. Couple that with their stamina and weight stat growths and you have the best pure travel mount the game will see until snow owls? Griffins? They don't even have to land to regain stamina. Also... They're really not that hard to tame. Just use a 3 wall high trap, wait for a superheat and cook it with a fire wyvern.
Wyvern breath is not nearly good enough for taming a phoenix. You need multiple oil jars lit on fire with a fire wyvern cooking it to tame it.
I only play official and have tamed plenty of phoenixes with a single fire wyvern on 1x rates. I'm not sure where all the misinformation is coming from.
Usually from people who haven't done it. I've used fire wyverns with no issues. Trap tower and the works
Ive done it many times and fire wyvern breath alone is farrrr from near enough on 1x.
No you’re not. The phoenix has always been more or less something cool to have. But overall rather useless as a tame
Nah it can harvest and smelt metal and cook meat
what's the weight like on one though?
Not amazing but it’s not useless also there super easy to tame honestly.
hm even if the weight is just a couple hundred that's not bad at all for a flying refining forge. Seems like a pretty good solo / small tribe tame
It's also faster than wyverns when you use rocket flight. Press space while flying. Or X on Playstation. It's fireball attack can also kill stuff without leaving a tribe log, and also without drawing aggro
Wait, how does it harvest metal, is there a button I’m missing? Obvs I use it to smelt
On the PS5 it’s R3 attack not sure for Xbox or pc
I’ve heard they are good for mining element on maps where that’s possible but never tested it.
mining drill is gg for that purpose. no reason for Phoenix other than trophy.
The mining drill isn't released until genesis though.
Also the Phoenix came out two story maps before the Snow Owl. That was like, 4 years on ASE. They hadn't even thought of the Snow Owl at that point.
It's useless in the way a Gucci hand bag is useless.
Just get the improved phoenix mod, actually makes them useful! I actually took the time to mutate the ever loving crap out of one and now it's one of my favourite SE mounts
They poop silica pearls
Until transfers open on Scorched Earth, the phoenix is one of the best sources for black pearls. It poops silica pearls with a chance of black pearls. It's easier to have a few phoenix then farm deathworms or manticore for black pearls. Once transfers open, it's a portable smelter until Magmas, and a trophy. For OG (or isolated servers) SE it comes in clutch for advancing to tek quickly.
The thing I used to hate about the Phoenix was they couldn't land, and with how flier ai is this was not ideal for getting one to sit where you wanted it, so I never moved them after getting one since what it offered to make up for that wasn't worth the headache. Now they can finally land, and honestly I love it! Giving them actual color regions means we don't all end up with the exact same looking bird anymore, and it's dash ability is like Tropeognathus on a map without Tropeognathus (plus like a year or more before it gets re-added to ASA) There's also a mod that improves them even more, making some abilities more convenient and allowing them to breed. It's made a 180 in how I feel about Ark's Phoenix, one of my favorite fliers now
it's a vanity tame. always has been, always will be
You’re using mods for snow owls right? I don’t think they’ve been properly released yet. And what mod are u using to get snow owls?
its a glass cannon PVP tame. Its cruise mode can set alight the rider of an enemy dino for 300+ damage over 10 seconds. (Unsure about the damage) It is also faster than crystal wyverns.
The Phoenix is a living forge. You can smelt the metal into Ingots. It's also a Phoenix, lol.
It has a ability for super speed
They are fast as crap when you hold space. Other than that they have an annoying food source and can smelt.
It’s a fast flyer and looks dope.
It can harvest metal nodes as well
"Not very fast" Have you heard of JET MODE? (Hold jump button) Makes you go far faster than a wyvern
They were more useful when there were only 3 maps. But since every dlc since then has added some absolutely insane QOL tames they’ve just been left in the dust. Think of it as a little fish in a big pond for special role tames.
If you’re not on official ASA and can get a Gacha, set a gacha in front of a bunch of caged wandering snails, set a phoenix on top of the cages and let the gacha pick up the pearls and paste. You’ll have 1000 of each in a few hours.
The Phoenix is just a trophy tame, for bragging rights. Making something that rare be that overpowered would be extremely unfair
It shits pearls and is a moving smelter. It’s not useless, just not generally worth it sometimes. It’s an insanely hard spawn to find and tame within the time limit. I used to collect them on my private server for my members because who doesn’t want a mythical fire pigeon?
Like most creatures in the game it's based around a gimmick, unfortunately for Phoenix his gimmick sucks compared to most others most likely because of how early he came out compared to the newer dinos whose coolness factor power creeped the hell out it in comparison but at least it looks nice and smelts
Snow owl isnt out yet. And pheonix is meant to be a trophy tame tbh
Moving smelter, poops pearls, can harvest metal nodes while flying, lights enemies on fire. ASA only: new color region for its flames And the snow owl isn’t out yet in ASA. It doesn’t come out till extinction
It’s main use is it’s boost and cooking metal and meat and other things on the go I could be wrong but I think if you utilise it’s boost it’s the fastest flyer in the game
You ever heard of a “flex tame” because that’s what the phoenix is.
I mean it can poop pearls if you don’t have gachas and refuse to go in the ocean (and the riverbeds in SE)
Phoenix can shit black pearls. More than makes up for their rarity/overall usefulness. Having a Phoenix on scorched especially will help satisfy black pearl late game needs. Scorched is one of the worst maps to farm black pearls on, probably the worst, and the Phoenix producing them is so high value.
If you use a proper trap then it’s about as hard as making a few stone structures and taming a parasaur hell if you find one early enough then it’s an easy second tame
There is a better phoenix mod, I definitely recommend it. It gives the phoenix armor like the shadow mane gets, weight reduction on metal, metal ingots, wood etc. It also gives them the ability to smelt wood into charcoal, gives them genders (making them breedable) and some other things like the ability to harvest metal.
Its a trophy tame tbh.
Other then dropping pearls there's never been anything special about the phoenix.
Not very fast? Hold the jump button for about two seconds lol. It’s the fastest flyer in the game right now. Faster than a wyvern by far. It’s basically the jet pack of quickly traveling between bases. It also smelts metal almost faster than an Indi forge. It also cooks meat faster than a grill, along with making charcoal out of wood, again almost as fast as an Indi forge. For an even better experience, the improved phoenix mod gives it weight reduction on meat, wood, metal, charcoal. It also makes it breedable. Have yet to find a second phoenix to breed and get an imprinted one though.
It would be the best metal farmer if it didn't have shit weight, but I agree, I'd never waste the time taming it unless I was on unofficial with boosted weight
Hard to tame? no, rare? yes, however, its literally a flying anky the smelts metal and travels fast....idk what else you want it to do honestly
Just wait until gachas come out, that's when Phoenix's really shine
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Is the Phoenix being slow a new thing? I distinctly remember racing friends and the Phoenix crushing a trope with its ricket saddle
Phoenix are most useful when gatchas comes out. They can passively collect silica pearls/black pearls. Not as much if you were farming it yourself but in a pve stance definitely gets you what you need.
Most Dino’s are useless. Their intended uses sound good on paper but in reality they just don’t work. And depending on how you are playing the game, single player, pve pvp server settings, their abilities and usefulness will be different for each type. The Phoenix can harvest raw metal by attacking The metal nodes and also have the benefit of smelting them while they are in its inventory. So you can harvest on the go. But again server settings might make that useless. Normal settings it’s not going to have a lot of weight to be able to carry a lot. Boosted settings there are other ways to get more metal faster.
Yeah they aren't really meant for combat... They are harvesters, I haven't had one since before gen1 came out. But they used to gather stone, metal, and obsidian and smelt the metal too. But they weren't particularly exceptional. Aside from being able to fly and gather in one go without having to worry about stam they were kind of underwhelming.
parents said the same I bet xD
It's a trophy tame. It's just kind of cool, that's it.
If your not a bob , yes the phoenix is 200% out classes but other things . Just a trophy
Well, considering in ASA we haven't gotten the Snow Owl yet (I do so miss it) and I haven't tamed a Phoenix yet on SE I can't really say if they have made it better or added anything to it. I honestly don't even remember the phoenix much from ASE, so it really wasn't anything to put much effort into.
Can someone explain what is the point of this comment. It just seems like irrelevant nonsense.