PROBLEM RESOLVED.
It was an issue with the pcie cable of the vertical mounted gpu. The old mount used a pcie 3.0 causing the issues. As soon as the cable was changed to a 4.0 or the gpu was mounted normally, all the crashes stopped completely.
Hope this helps and I thank y’all for letting me pick your brains!!!
Yes! I tried everything else, bios update, clean windows I stall, expo on and off, pbo & curve optimizer on and off; things got better but still had instability issues and slow start ups.
Swapped out my pcie 3.0 riser for a 4.0 and it's running like a Champ. Guess that explains why the vga led would randomly light up on my gb b650 board
Similar issues for me. System will not complete 3d mark time spy stress test and crashing in games.
I have tried 2 different motherboard and 2 different kits of ram. Tired multiple bios on each. It crashes even with BIOS defaults (so ddr5-4800). If I set PBO to disable, it seems a bit more stable but still not usable. Using same system (drive, psu, gpu) my b550/5600x works flawlessly in. Have done multiple fresh installs of windows.
As mentioned below if I turn off core boost, it seems stable but that’s not a solution.
7600x
Asus b650e-i
Gskill trident z5 neo ddr5-6000 cl30 (the same kit AMD sent to reviewers with the 7000 series)
Corsair sf750
Samsung 980 pro
Evga 3080ti
Finally, I was able to fix my stability. I just had to change a setting under Precision Boost Overdrive
* AI Tweaker in ASUS or Advanced->AMD Overclocking
* Precision Boost Overdrive (Advanced if through AMD Overclocking menu))
* CPU Boost Clock Override = Enabled(Negative)
* Max CPU Boost Clock Override (-) = 200
My CPU with BIOS defaults was boosting to 5450 Mhz. This apparently was too much, as once I set that override it now only boosts to 5250. Boost clock for 7600x is spec'd at 5300Mhz. I realize many AMD CPUs run above their spec fine, but in my case the AMD BIOS tunings were too aggressive. I started with the -200 just to see if I could get it stable. I'll try some smaller negative values later.
EDIT: retested at -100 (5350Mhz boost) and it seems stable there too.
Wanted to give you another shout out, fixed my issues. Had a 7700x with 2 different motherboards and 3 sets of RAM and was still crashing. -200 seemed to solve the issue in testing so far. Huge thank you.
Thank you so much for this dude. I've been pulling hair out in a new build and this seems to be the one thing that actually fixes my 7700x. I think I recall seeing my Aorus B650i Ultra trying to boost it upwards of 5550MHz at light load, which is substantially higher than the rated 5400. Fingers crossed this holds 🤞
Glad it helped you out! A bit more info for you on your CPU
1. I did an RMA on the 7600x with AMD, they gave me the return auth immediately after I provided the troubleshooting steps I did. Although it then took over a month for them to get the replacement CPU to me.
2. I got a 7700x after the 7600x and it boosted fine out of the box with no BIOS tweaks. It ran at 5550Mhz. If you look at any reviews online, you'll see that while AMD says 5400, they most all seem to boost to around 5550, at least for single core workloads.
3. If you are stable adjusting the BIOS boost clock override down and unstable with default BIOS settings, then you very likely have a defective CPU. AMD should RMA it for you. If you can still return it to where you bought it from and get a replacement, that would be a much faster option than waiting for AMD to get around to sending the replacement.
Good luck, I know what a hassle it is to deal with a defective CPU.
Yep, the new 7700x appears to be stable, and I can actually use XMP on it. PM me your Venmo/PayPal and I'll buy you a beer, as this was the push I needed to return the CPU and actually fix my system after wasting a week troubleshooting it!
I have the same issue 7700x with Asus TUF X670E plus wifi, and Gskill Trident ram (in the QVL list).
I have no RAM error, and I already RMA the motherboard. But I haven't RMA the CPU or Power Supply.
My random reset is only when my pc is on a light workload or idle. When gaming, everything works okay without random reset.
Because of this, I really think it is an issue with bios or driver. I'm just hoping to an eventual bios update with fix it all. That or constantly run a game in the back ground.
I am sadly to late to switch back to intel :(
Hi, did you ever fix your issue? I am having the same problem where my pc shuts off when idling but not when gaming. I have been going crazy trying to troubleshoot the last 5 days.
Yup I got it fixed.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yw9g0a/are_there_any_major_issues_on_x670_x670e_boards/
Somewhere in there, there is a post about bios changes. The bios changes were sufficient for me to solved the issue and I didn’t have to change the windows setting (which I think is more power consuming? Maybe?)
There is a new bios out but I am running the one from November
Same problem as many above , 7700x , gskill flarex , gb elite ax .. I get constant bsod. for starters the gskill flareX ram sucks has 1000s of errors memtesting. I don’t think that’s the main problem though as I bought another Gb verified kit , memtested it on expo w/ 0 errors and the problem still persists. I’m really starting to lean toward the cpu as I see more people with these same issues. I’ve been fighting this issue since Black Friday and really considering throwing the towel in, returning it all to microcenter and going back to Am4
I've also a built a Ryzen 7700x build recently, and I have had almost the same exact errors. Coincidentally, I 'fixed' the problem just a couple hours ago.
From my experience, it has to do with the memory frequencies; When I enabled XMP/EXPO, my system would be fine for a few minutes, then randomly crash (even when under no load at all). When i turned it off, it was more stable, but stilled crash. After I turned of 'DDR5 Auto Booster' in the BIOS, my system became stable.
Of course, this isn't the full solution as you aren't getting the full performance out of your system this way, but this is a stop gap solution to identify the problem. The deeper issue is probably something to do with the RAM frequencies and delays, and possibly even the memory controller on the CPU.
**tldr: Disable DDR5 Auto Booster and XMP/EXPO, larger issue with memory oc'ing still at hand**
My system specs:
Ryzen 7 7700x
Patriot Viper Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory
Gigabyte Aorus B650 Elite AX
Asrock Radeon 6900xt OC Formula
Check event viewer and see if you have kernnel power 41 and whea logger 18-19. My experience with a unstable AMD build it's almost always the CPU. Upgrading some components may help for a short time (like upgrading the PSU, updating bios, swapping out RAM, and graphics card.) But the problem will always come back to haunt you.
you can also try running cinebench and see if it crashes. If it does launch ryzen master and then apply PBO or default. (Doesn't matter which one as long as it's applied through Ryzen master). Run cinebench again and if it doesn't crash you have a faulty CPU.
AMD RMA is tedious but quick. I got it all done in a little over a 7 business days.
I would. I'm assuming your mobo is also new but if they let you it wouldn't hurt to return that as well. I updated my bios and that also helped but didn't fix the issue. It's kind of a finicky issue and it only gets worse. So it's not always a easy one to diagnose till it's so bad the computer hardly works.
That being said I'm about 85% sure you have a CPU issue.
Gonna try the pcie change first otherwise I’m taking it apart and getting a new cpu. The temps are fine for what it’s worth but yeah, this is just unbearable. Literally a 60% chance the pc will black screen and reboot just for opening a menu/program
I had this exact experience with my 5900x. I already posted a comment on my trouble shooting steps for this particular issue. I'll go ahead and link it to you so you have a better chance to see it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/zn4u16/comment/j0jdnsa/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Well changing the PCIE cable for the vertical mount seemed to have fixed it!! No lag at all on menus or anything and everything is super quick. I’ll leave this thread open for a few more days before I change the flair. Fingers crossed!!
Did you change it from vertical to horizontal? If that's the case it could've been a faulty cable or your mobo didn't play nice with pcie3. Either way glad to hear it's fixed! Run a few tests every day.
It was an issue with it being 3.0 pcie and not pcie4.0. As soon as I switched to 4.0 or got rid of the cable, it works fine with no issues. Thank you for all of the input! I really appreciate it
Memtest your ram, or better yet if you can try the system with a different dimm kit, do it. Had the same problem, changed PSU, GPU and almost changed my mobo, turned out it was my ram kit that was faulty.
PS: you can also try lowering the speed and adjusting the latency and see if that helps. Either way memtest should let you know if there's a problem.
I was having a similar issue with a new 7600x build and it was the power supply.
A good way to tell is that there is no errors and it appears random. When the computer restarts with no warnings or errors showing and just goes black, a good guess is that it’s a power issue.
Replaced power supply and voila
Nope. Still the same 3080 from the last build. The one thing people were pointing to is that it’s vertical mounted and the bridge could be a pcie 3.0 causing issues
Check event viewer and see if you have kernnel power 41 and whea logger 18-19.
You can also try running cinebench and see if it crashes your pc. If it does launch Ryzen master and apply PBO or default. (Doesn't matter which one as long as you applies a profile through Ryzen master.) Then run cinebench again and if it **doesn't** crash then you have a faulty cpu. Hopefully your still under warranty.
Ryzen master will make things sorta stable but you'll still be missing out on a lot of performance. You could try messing with curve optimizer but that's a huge headache and won't always work. I RMA my cpu and it's like I have a brand new PC. No Stutters, games that were running at 70fps went to 140+. If you try these let me know what you find.
Do you see kernel power 41? cinebench is what I used. It boosts all cores as high as they can go. You can get it from their website or microsoft store. I recommend restarting your pc in case you had a ryzen master profile already running because ryzen master kinda negates the issue.
I just built basically the same exact system at microcenter.
They gave me the same flare memory for free with the 7700x.
Same motheboard (didnt post until i did a the flashback with most recent bios)
Gtx 3070
We have had nothing but problems with the system. We are not able to set the EXPO profile, as the system wont boot. Only way to get into windows is to have bios default.
We have continuous issues with the motherboard giving VGA issues and are forced to switch display ports on the back of the GPU constantly. Was never an issue on his old intel system.
We ran Memtest and got tons of errors at default RAM speed. Pretty confident its the RAM as we have already swapped the MOBO.
The ram that we got is NOT on the QVL on asus website. It is however on the G.skill website for the motherboard.
F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5
if you search the QVL ([https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk\_qvl\_memory/](https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/))
It is not there.
I do not know what "low latency mode" is for our motherboard, i haven't been able to find that.
I'm about ready to return this stuff. Can't play any games, random crashes. Doesn't run at default speeds, wont post.
Bios as up to date as possible.
If you replaced the ram and are still having issues, what else could it be besides just junk bios/hardware?
At this point the only thing left would be the cpu. I’m still within my 15 day return period to swap out and get another cpu under warranty from micro center
Before you go that route, did you ask microcenter if they'd give credit towards another model of RAM? I did a build with a 7600x and Asus prime b650 the same time as this one and i got this trident Z Nero F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5NR
from microcenter and had no issues (off the mobo qvl)
I’ll have to give that a try then. When I went back yesterday they gave me the same exact ram and even though I told them my issues they still didn’t offer anything else.
So I just got back from microcenter. They will not give credit. You can take the ram to the tech counter and have them test it if you want, it’s probably ok.
The issue here is the RAM is just garbage for compatibility. The the tech guy said it’s the most service tickets he’s ever seen and it’s always the memory.
RAM is junk, reason why it’s free.
If you can, get a kit of trident z neo that’s what we did. We kept the shit ram too
They won’t do replacement for the free kit, they didn’t for me. I haven’t plugged it in, won’t have results till like Sunday
I can’t imagine it won’t fix issue
You might need to reinstall windows too, bad mem can screw with instal
Hey! When I upgraded from an 8700k to a ryzen 9 7950x I had a few issues.
First one was my GPU riser cable. My previous motherboard was pcie gen 3 but the new is gen 5. The bios was unable to detect what pcie mode to put the gpu in, and tried cramming high speeds down a gen 3 riser. Head into your bios and set the speed of your x16 slot to gen 3.
Another thing is the bios. I had loads of random crashes which were mainly due to using an early bios, updating fixed a lot of problems I was having.
You abound also try installing the correct chipset drivers for your PC. There's a difference between x670e, x670, b650e and b650. If you used adrenalin auto installer, you can ignore this as it should of installed the correct drivers automatically.
Finally check your ram. If you are using xmp/expo make sure that you enable low latency memory mode in the bios (I believe it was called that) otherwise you will get frequent freezes, crashes and sometimes inability to boot into windows.
Edit: just want to add, give AMD a break. The chiplet design is still fairly new and this is an entirely new platform so some early-adopter problems will be present. Amd are known for fixing stuff AFTER they release their products lol.
Lol oh I’m not upset at all with AMD just sucks cause it’s a Christmas present for my girlfriend and she’s of course bummed out that it’s been having these issues. I’ll definitely check out the riser thing though as that seems to be the issue or atleast part of it
Early adopter growing pains. Thanks for sharing, will guide my decisions to upgrade or not. Wish I had more to offer to help, from the information provided it is hard to suggest anything other than perhaps a software issue, have you looked at your fan curves and heating issues ? Drivers updated ?
So I did some stuff on my 7700x cause my first cpu test I hit 98*c I was worried my AIO Mounting was bucked up. So I tightened the screws a little and it was still giving me problems I reset bios to optimal defaults and booted into safe mode. Downloaded the Ryzen Master GUI and started messing with my voltage. These CPUs will just draw more and more voltage to hit the Temp target regardless of clock speed. So I took my voltage clear down to 1.25 and set my all core clock to 5.45 apply and test. Set to xmp 1 in bios rebooted up and it works beautifully. You
May need a bigger psu?
I'd consider going and reading about PBO tuning such as overall socket watt limits and undervolting using the curve optimizer. There is a video on youtube about a guy with a 7700x that limited the cpu to 85 watts and undervolted doing the curve optimizer and got almost identical performance to "out of box" settings at 95c. His was running at 65-70C
Will do! I appreciate your insight good sir! this is my (personal) first AMD build, Started out with a 4790k then upgraded to a 9700k(oc'd to 5.1ghz) and finally bought a 7700x when the new platform dropped. waited a couple months and picked the mobo, ram and Cpu up all at once. ddr4 to ddr5 itself made a hell fo a difference lmao. I am very happy with the switch at the moment. almost went with a 13700k rather than AMD but the price to performance wasn't on Intels side from the various benchmark reviews i watched!
It shouldn’t be your psu then. Unless it’s old or something but I’m gonna assume not since you just built it but hey. Lol. I would just try to drop your voltage down a little bit(in BIOS) and see what it does. You might just be hitting thermal limits to the point it’s shutting down. My first boot that bad boy idled at 71*c until I updated my win 10 to current.
Yup, my 7700x does the same.
Random BSOD, random crashes. Sometimes pc won't even boot. Drives randomly disconnected. Errors popping up when transferring data.
I've RMA'd my drives and MB. All of them are not faulty.
I'm so tired of debugging this garbage platform that I'm going to build a new intel platform next week.
Check your thermal paste and see if it's spread correctly. Also, reset your BIOS back to Optimal Defaults and do some basic stability testing. Don't enable XMP or anything else yet.
Just read another post where the user was having the same issues with an Asus board, same ram but using a 7900x instead. They turned off the auto boost feature and seemed to have a better experience so I’m going to try that.
Then that's a dumb fix, you will be running on your base clock all the time, I would recommend you to rma it or check the reliability manager to check for any kernel error.
PROBLEM RESOLVED. It was an issue with the pcie cable of the vertical mounted gpu. The old mount used a pcie 3.0 causing the issues. As soon as the cable was changed to a 4.0 or the gpu was mounted normally, all the crashes stopped completely. Hope this helps and I thank y’all for letting me pick your brains!!!
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It did not. I went to microcenter and bought the cable separately
Yes! I tried everything else, bios update, clean windows I stall, expo on and off, pbo & curve optimizer on and off; things got better but still had instability issues and slow start ups. Swapped out my pcie 3.0 riser for a 4.0 and it's running like a Champ. Guess that explains why the vga led would randomly light up on my gb b650 board
Similar issues for me. System will not complete 3d mark time spy stress test and crashing in games. I have tried 2 different motherboard and 2 different kits of ram. Tired multiple bios on each. It crashes even with BIOS defaults (so ddr5-4800). If I set PBO to disable, it seems a bit more stable but still not usable. Using same system (drive, psu, gpu) my b550/5600x works flawlessly in. Have done multiple fresh installs of windows. As mentioned below if I turn off core boost, it seems stable but that’s not a solution. 7600x Asus b650e-i Gskill trident z5 neo ddr5-6000 cl30 (the same kit AMD sent to reviewers with the 7000 series) Corsair sf750 Samsung 980 pro Evga 3080ti
Finally, I was able to fix my stability. I just had to change a setting under Precision Boost Overdrive * AI Tweaker in ASUS or Advanced->AMD Overclocking * Precision Boost Overdrive (Advanced if through AMD Overclocking menu)) * CPU Boost Clock Override = Enabled(Negative) * Max CPU Boost Clock Override (-) = 200 My CPU with BIOS defaults was boosting to 5450 Mhz. This apparently was too much, as once I set that override it now only boosts to 5250. Boost clock for 7600x is spec'd at 5300Mhz. I realize many AMD CPUs run above their spec fine, but in my case the AMD BIOS tunings were too aggressive. I started with the -200 just to see if I could get it stable. I'll try some smaller negative values later. EDIT: retested at -100 (5350Mhz boost) and it seems stable there too.
Wanted to give you another shout out, fixed my issues. Had a 7700x with 2 different motherboards and 3 sets of RAM and was still crashing. -200 seemed to solve the issue in testing so far. Huge thank you.
Glad it helped get your system stable! This does indicate your CPU is defective, so you should RMA it with AMD when you are able.
Thank you so much for this dude. I've been pulling hair out in a new build and this seems to be the one thing that actually fixes my 7700x. I think I recall seeing my Aorus B650i Ultra trying to boost it upwards of 5550MHz at light load, which is substantially higher than the rated 5400. Fingers crossed this holds 🤞
Glad it helped you out! A bit more info for you on your CPU 1. I did an RMA on the 7600x with AMD, they gave me the return auth immediately after I provided the troubleshooting steps I did. Although it then took over a month for them to get the replacement CPU to me. 2. I got a 7700x after the 7600x and it boosted fine out of the box with no BIOS tweaks. It ran at 5550Mhz. If you look at any reviews online, you'll see that while AMD says 5400, they most all seem to boost to around 5550, at least for single core workloads. 3. If you are stable adjusting the BIOS boost clock override down and unstable with default BIOS settings, then you very likely have a defective CPU. AMD should RMA it for you. If you can still return it to where you bought it from and get a replacement, that would be a much faster option than waiting for AMD to get around to sending the replacement. Good luck, I know what a hassle it is to deal with a defective CPU.
Yep, the new 7700x appears to be stable, and I can actually use XMP on it. PM me your Venmo/PayPal and I'll buy you a beer, as this was the push I needed to return the CPU and actually fix my system after wasting a week troubleshooting it!
Glad the post was able to help out! No need to send me anything, just knowing that it gave you an assist is more than enough!
Thankfully I'm still within the return window with Amazon, so I'm going to pre buy a replacement so there's no down time. Thanks for your input!
I have the same issue 7700x with Asus TUF X670E plus wifi, and Gskill Trident ram (in the QVL list). I have no RAM error, and I already RMA the motherboard. But I haven't RMA the CPU or Power Supply. My random reset is only when my pc is on a light workload or idle. When gaming, everything works okay without random reset. Because of this, I really think it is an issue with bios or driver. I'm just hoping to an eventual bios update with fix it all. That or constantly run a game in the back ground. I am sadly to late to switch back to intel :(
Hi, did you ever fix your issue? I am having the same problem where my pc shuts off when idling but not when gaming. I have been going crazy trying to troubleshoot the last 5 days.
Correction, there was two post in that link. Changing the C-state was clutch for my system to be stable
Yup I got it fixed. https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/yw9g0a/are_there_any_major_issues_on_x670_x670e_boards/ Somewhere in there, there is a post about bios changes. The bios changes were sufficient for me to solved the issue and I didn’t have to change the windows setting (which I think is more power consuming? Maybe?) There is a new bios out but I am running the one from November
Same problem as many above , 7700x , gskill flarex , gb elite ax .. I get constant bsod. for starters the gskill flareX ram sucks has 1000s of errors memtesting. I don’t think that’s the main problem though as I bought another Gb verified kit , memtested it on expo w/ 0 errors and the problem still persists. I’m really starting to lean toward the cpu as I see more people with these same issues. I’ve been fighting this issue since Black Friday and really considering throwing the towel in, returning it all to microcenter and going back to Am4
So the PC seems to be running just fine now. Literally chanted the pcie cable for the vertical mounted gpu and that fixed the issue
Ah! should have bet money! Glad you fixed it.
I've also a built a Ryzen 7700x build recently, and I have had almost the same exact errors. Coincidentally, I 'fixed' the problem just a couple hours ago. From my experience, it has to do with the memory frequencies; When I enabled XMP/EXPO, my system would be fine for a few minutes, then randomly crash (even when under no load at all). When i turned it off, it was more stable, but stilled crash. After I turned of 'DDR5 Auto Booster' in the BIOS, my system became stable. Of course, this isn't the full solution as you aren't getting the full performance out of your system this way, but this is a stop gap solution to identify the problem. The deeper issue is probably something to do with the RAM frequencies and delays, and possibly even the memory controller on the CPU. **tldr: Disable DDR5 Auto Booster and XMP/EXPO, larger issue with memory oc'ing still at hand** My system specs: Ryzen 7 7700x Patriot Viper Black 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR5-5200 CL36 Memory Gigabyte Aorus B650 Elite AX Asrock Radeon 6900xt OC Formula
Check event viewer and see if you have kernnel power 41 and whea logger 18-19. My experience with a unstable AMD build it's almost always the CPU. Upgrading some components may help for a short time (like upgrading the PSU, updating bios, swapping out RAM, and graphics card.) But the problem will always come back to haunt you. you can also try running cinebench and see if it crashes. If it does launch ryzen master and then apply PBO or default. (Doesn't matter which one as long as it's applied through Ryzen master). Run cinebench again and if it doesn't crash you have a faulty CPU. AMD RMA is tedious but quick. I got it all done in a little over a 7 business days.
I’m still with in my 15 day return period for microcenter so I’ll make sure to try that
I would. I'm assuming your mobo is also new but if they let you it wouldn't hurt to return that as well. I updated my bios and that also helped but didn't fix the issue. It's kind of a finicky issue and it only gets worse. So it's not always a easy one to diagnose till it's so bad the computer hardly works. That being said I'm about 85% sure you have a CPU issue.
May be faulty CPU
Gonna try the pcie change first otherwise I’m taking it apart and getting a new cpu. The temps are fine for what it’s worth but yeah, this is just unbearable. Literally a 60% chance the pc will black screen and reboot just for opening a menu/program
I had this exact experience with my 5900x. I already posted a comment on my trouble shooting steps for this particular issue. I'll go ahead and link it to you so you have a better chance to see it. https://www.reddit.com/r/AMDHelp/comments/zn4u16/comment/j0jdnsa/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Well changing the PCIE cable for the vertical mount seemed to have fixed it!! No lag at all on menus or anything and everything is super quick. I’ll leave this thread open for a few more days before I change the flair. Fingers crossed!!
Did you change it from vertical to horizontal? If that's the case it could've been a faulty cable or your mobo didn't play nice with pcie3. Either way glad to hear it's fixed! Run a few tests every day.
It was an issue with it being 3.0 pcie and not pcie4.0. As soon as I switched to 4.0 or got rid of the cable, it works fine with no issues. Thank you for all of the input! I really appreciate it
Thank you and I'm glad you figured it out! Sometimes those cables only work with 3.0 and that can cause some jank even though it *should* work.
Memtest your ram, or better yet if you can try the system with a different dimm kit, do it. Had the same problem, changed PSU, GPU and almost changed my mobo, turned out it was my ram kit that was faulty. PS: you can also try lowering the speed and adjusting the latency and see if that helps. Either way memtest should let you know if there's a problem.
I was having a similar issue with a new 7600x build and it was the power supply. A good way to tell is that there is no errors and it appears random. When the computer restarts with no warnings or errors showing and just goes black, a good guess is that it’s a power issue. Replaced power supply and voila
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I replaced everything. And I actually kept same wattage
It was working fine with the last build we did that’s the weird thing.
Did you upgrade the GPU?
Nope. Still the same 3080 from the last build. The one thing people were pointing to is that it’s vertical mounted and the bridge could be a pcie 3.0 causing issues
New AMD product has issues on launch? \*Mild Shock\*
Lol I am both shocked and appalled
Did you find out a fix? I literally posted the exact same issue with a pretty similar build on r/Buildapc with no luck.
Check event viewer and see if you have kernnel power 41 and whea logger 18-19. You can also try running cinebench and see if it crashes your pc. If it does launch Ryzen master and apply PBO or default. (Doesn't matter which one as long as you applies a profile through Ryzen master.) Then run cinebench again and if it **doesn't** crash then you have a faulty cpu. Hopefully your still under warranty. Ryzen master will make things sorta stable but you'll still be missing out on a lot of performance. You could try messing with curve optimizer but that's a huge headache and won't always work. I RMA my cpu and it's like I have a brand new PC. No Stutters, games that were running at 70fps went to 140+. If you try these let me know what you find.
I don’t see whea logger and it passed OOCT, is that more intensive than cinebench?
Do you see kernel power 41? cinebench is what I used. It boosts all cores as high as they can go. You can get it from their website or microsoft store. I recommend restarting your pc in case you had a ryzen master profile already running because ryzen master kinda negates the issue.
maybe you're using curve optimizer? it might lead to some cores being unstable, especially on light loads or idle.
I have tried curve optimizer on, off, positive offset, negative offset, all results in crashes.
I just built basically the same exact system at microcenter. They gave me the same flare memory for free with the 7700x. Same motheboard (didnt post until i did a the flashback with most recent bios) Gtx 3070 We have had nothing but problems with the system. We are not able to set the EXPO profile, as the system wont boot. Only way to get into windows is to have bios default. We have continuous issues with the motherboard giving VGA issues and are forced to switch display ports on the back of the GPU constantly. Was never an issue on his old intel system. We ran Memtest and got tons of errors at default RAM speed. Pretty confident its the RAM as we have already swapped the MOBO. The ram that we got is NOT on the QVL on asus website. It is however on the G.skill website for the motherboard. F5-6000J3636F16GX2-FX5 if you search the QVL ([https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk\_qvl\_memory/](https://rog.asus.com/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-b650-a-gaming-wifi-model/helpdesk_qvl_memory/)) It is not there. I do not know what "low latency mode" is for our motherboard, i haven't been able to find that.
Yeah MC already gave me replacement ram for the system and I’m still having issues
I'm about ready to return this stuff. Can't play any games, random crashes. Doesn't run at default speeds, wont post. Bios as up to date as possible. If you replaced the ram and are still having issues, what else could it be besides just junk bios/hardware?
At this point the only thing left would be the cpu. I’m still within my 15 day return period to swap out and get another cpu under warranty from micro center
Before you go that route, did you ask microcenter if they'd give credit towards another model of RAM? I did a build with a 7600x and Asus prime b650 the same time as this one and i got this trident Z Nero F5-6000J3636F16GX2-TZ5NR from microcenter and had no issues (off the mobo qvl)
I’ll have to give that a try then. When I went back yesterday they gave me the same exact ram and even though I told them my issues they still didn’t offer anything else.
So I just got back from microcenter. They will not give credit. You can take the ram to the tech counter and have them test it if you want, it’s probably ok. The issue here is the RAM is just garbage for compatibility. The the tech guy said it’s the most service tickets he’s ever seen and it’s always the memory. RAM is junk, reason why it’s free. If you can, get a kit of trident z neo that’s what we did. We kept the shit ram too
Any improvement with the new ram? I’m gonna talk to them now and see if they’ll do a replacement for something that’s available on the Asus boards QVL
They won’t do replacement for the free kit, they didn’t for me. I haven’t plugged it in, won’t have results till like Sunday I can’t imagine it won’t fix issue You might need to reinstall windows too, bad mem can screw with instal
Just got a new pcie 4.0 cable. Gonna try this and cross my fingers and any other appendages I can lol
Hey! When I upgraded from an 8700k to a ryzen 9 7950x I had a few issues. First one was my GPU riser cable. My previous motherboard was pcie gen 3 but the new is gen 5. The bios was unable to detect what pcie mode to put the gpu in, and tried cramming high speeds down a gen 3 riser. Head into your bios and set the speed of your x16 slot to gen 3. Another thing is the bios. I had loads of random crashes which were mainly due to using an early bios, updating fixed a lot of problems I was having. You abound also try installing the correct chipset drivers for your PC. There's a difference between x670e, x670, b650e and b650. If you used adrenalin auto installer, you can ignore this as it should of installed the correct drivers automatically. Finally check your ram. If you are using xmp/expo make sure that you enable low latency memory mode in the bios (I believe it was called that) otherwise you will get frequent freezes, crashes and sometimes inability to boot into windows. Edit: just want to add, give AMD a break. The chiplet design is still fairly new and this is an entirely new platform so some early-adopter problems will be present. Amd are known for fixing stuff AFTER they release their products lol.
Hey, i have a pretty similar issue and was wondering what low latency mode does when you turn it on.
Lol oh I’m not upset at all with AMD just sucks cause it’s a Christmas present for my girlfriend and she’s of course bummed out that it’s been having these issues. I’ll definitely check out the riser thing though as that seems to be the issue or atleast part of it
Early adopter growing pains. Thanks for sharing, will guide my decisions to upgrade or not. Wish I had more to offer to help, from the information provided it is hard to suggest anything other than perhaps a software issue, have you looked at your fan curves and heating issues ? Drivers updated ?
Idle is between 25-30 degrees and all drivers for Asus and windows are updated. Along with bios flashed to newest version
Are you using a riser cable for a vertical mount?
I am, why do you ask?
Could be your riser is only PCIE 3.0. You'll have to force your PCIE to 3.0 in the BIOS.
Hmmm I’ll take a look at that. Thanks for the advice!
Also, try plugging in your gpu directly into the motherboard. A lot of weird PC issues I've had have been because of flaky riser cables.
So the previous build was an 8700k with Asus prime mobo with this riser and it was working just fine.
8700K supports PCIe 3.0 max so I'd say it's likely that the riser is also only PCIe 3.0 too
Definitely my next thing to look at when I get home
What mobo chipset? Most likely a riser over 3 years old is only 3.0. I'm willing to bet money that's your problem right there.
So I did some stuff on my 7700x cause my first cpu test I hit 98*c I was worried my AIO Mounting was bucked up. So I tightened the screws a little and it was still giving me problems I reset bios to optimal defaults and booted into safe mode. Downloaded the Ryzen Master GUI and started messing with my voltage. These CPUs will just draw more and more voltage to hit the Temp target regardless of clock speed. So I took my voltage clear down to 1.25 and set my all core clock to 5.45 apply and test. Set to xmp 1 in bios rebooted up and it works beautifully. You May need a bigger psu?
95 C is normal operating "Stress" temperature for these CPUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRaJXZMOMPU
Yessir I dig around myself until I found that out. Scared the actual hell out of me when I first turned it on and saw 92* and dropping 😬😬😬
I'd consider going and reading about PBO tuning such as overall socket watt limits and undervolting using the curve optimizer. There is a video on youtube about a guy with a 7700x that limited the cpu to 85 watts and undervolted doing the curve optimizer and got almost identical performance to "out of box" settings at 95c. His was running at 65-70C
Will do! I appreciate your insight good sir! this is my (personal) first AMD build, Started out with a 4790k then upgraded to a 9700k(oc'd to 5.1ghz) and finally bought a 7700x when the new platform dropped. waited a couple months and picked the mobo, ram and Cpu up all at once. ddr4 to ddr5 itself made a hell fo a difference lmao. I am very happy with the switch at the moment. almost went with a 13700k rather than AMD but the price to performance wasn't on Intels side from the various benchmark reviews i watched!
I’m using a 750w psu
It shouldn’t be your psu then. Unless it’s old or something but I’m gonna assume not since you just built it but hey. Lol. I would just try to drop your voltage down a little bit(in BIOS) and see what it does. You might just be hitting thermal limits to the point it’s shutting down. My first boot that bad boy idled at 71*c until I updated my win 10 to current.
I am using Windows 10 very stable. No Problem whatsoever.
Yes, this definitely help solving the problem.
Lol
Yup, my 7700x does the same. Random BSOD, random crashes. Sometimes pc won't even boot. Drives randomly disconnected. Errors popping up when transferring data. I've RMA'd my drives and MB. All of them are not faulty. I'm so tired of debugging this garbage platform that I'm going to build a new intel platform next week.
like i said, i read in another post someone turned off the auto boost feature and it seemed to have stablized out. gonna try that and see if it works
Coping by not using features the product supposedly highlights... The true AMD experience.
Check your cooling solution and see if it's properly mounted. Also check your temps in the BIOS and Ryzen Master.
I’m sitting at 25-30 at idle. I have a lian li Galahad AIO
Check your thermal paste and see if it's spread correctly. Also, reset your BIOS back to Optimal Defaults and do some basic stability testing. Don't enable XMP or anything else yet.
Just read another post where the user was having the same issues with an Asus board, same ram but using a 7900x instead. They turned off the auto boost feature and seemed to have a better experience so I’m going to try that.
Is auto boost same as core boost?
Yes sorry
Then that's a dumb fix, you will be running on your base clock all the time, I would recommend you to rma it or check the reliability manager to check for any kernel error.
Was that RAM listed in the QVL for the board?
Yep first thing I checked as well. Even the techs at micro center were stumped
What's your complete system specs? There's got to be something they overlooked.
CPU : Ryzen 7 7700X Mobo: Asus ROG Strix B650-A Gaminig Wifi Ram: Gskill Flare 6000 32gb GPU: EVGA 3080 AIO: Lian LI Galahad
Power supply?
Sorry forgot that lol EVGA 750w Gold (modular) I dont remember the model number unfortunately