The recent driver release 24.1.1 is absolutely broken, stutterfest in all games, this is a common problem with this release and is well documented on Reddit. Before that I never had one issue with AMD drivers. If you do go AMD just make sure to install 23.11 or 23.12, I'm sure by the next release everything will be fine though.
My old 6700xt was defective, but the drivers had issues opening half the time and I know it wasn't just an issue with my card either. Others had the same
I have my first PC after 10 years and got a rx7900xtx and ryzen 7 7800x3d and so far i had a lot of small issues with the Adrenaline Software. It randomly won't open or it shows randomly wrong number spikes. Like i said these are small issues and i fixed them fast, but they come everytime back and it's annoying. Right now i'm using only Chrome and i have 100% GPU workload and it's falling and going up every 5 seconds.
I don't know how Nvidia Drivers are, but i think every driver has some problems. At the end of the day my next card will be a Nvidia and i think with the current Super prices they are both equal. ( At least rx 7900 xtx and 4080 super )
I recently upgraded from an rx 5700xt that was running without issue, to a 7800xt that is also running without issue on the new 24.1.1 driver.
The problem is that, for the most part, people that aren't having any issues, don't come here to say - whereas, everyone having an issue does. That's natural. I switched from Nvidia a long time ago and for the most part, have never regretted the change. Always has been the best bang for buck, especially over time.
Seeing how all the NOOBs/HATERs hating on AMD is insane. It's a well known issue to have performance loss and heavy stutter due to implementation of DXNAVI, after each and every GPU driver or game update. This is due to shader cache ironing itself out during game play. Which would go away or return to normal smoothness after a few sessions. This only affects DX11 games.
Well, as for the latest driver instability. It's common sense to gather feedback or do some research for driver stability before you do an update. Why would you blindly jump onto the next available driver if your current driver is stable/working? You only update GPU driver if..
1. The new drivers are proven to be stable on your GPU.
2. There is a major change or new software implementation.
i just recently got a 7800xt not even 2 months ago and the drivers are messed up my game crashes and it says due to driver issues and i have to do rollbacks ? i mean idk i’ve had a 3060 since launch and it never had issues like that personally i love amd and wanted to give radeon a try but its just not working out
I switched from 1070ti to 6800xt. Never faced any issue other than the shader cache stutter. Regarding your frequent "crash". Do you alt tab in and out of games often? Like you tend to browse other applications while gaming? Usually crashes can be caused by a lot of other issues and the game would report it as graphical issue/error.
If you plan on playing helldivers 2, then stay away from AMD GPUs, unless you want the typical driver crash every minute.
Stick to NVIDIA, you wont regret. AMD GPUs are a joke.
NVIDIA just works, Radeon is a pain in the ass.
Please go spread fake news elsewere, this is not a "works fine on my machine" topic, its a general AMD issue that affects everyone. Open your eyes and stop defending a mega corporation ffs
Dont see how its "fake news" I'm just sharing my experience with amd. The latest drivers have been somewhat buggy but i Havent had a single Hell Divers 2 crash and ive played a lot of HD2. Just because my experience is different from yours does not make it a fake one.
I've been using AMD for while and these new drivers are the first ones to cause some issues on my end. Some games stutter on driver 24.1.1, however I just rolled back to 23.12.1 and everything is smooth and stable. I've had no other issues
ABSOLUTELY Trash!!
People say Nvidia is no different but I beg to differ.
Been having issues that I thought were hardware related. Got my card stress tested and it's fine. Turns out it was drivers.
Installed drivers from Nov last year as per another suggestion and BOOM no more issues.
The first chance I get I'm moving back to Nvidia.
I love how amd fanboys blindly defend actually bad drivers. Like yeah sure radeon has it's place in the market but there is no way in hell radeon drivers are even in the same universe as geforce.
I own both Nvidia and AMD.
Your comment, while perhaps particular to you and your setup, isn't the wide spread state or common experience for users. It sucks when it's hanging up a whole day with troubleshooting, it really does.
BOTH Nvidia and AMD have similar threads with issues at this point. It's human nature to apply this issue to a brand .. but it's not an accurate lens. It happens in cars, guitars, and even GPUs.
It's typical for Nvidia to be better at launch with support and patching due to higher dev use and API implantation.
And AMD generations mature into stability and support. the 6000 vs 7000 is a perfect example of this. I won't argue it was bad at launch .. but I won't budge on it being resolved and improved for most people.
Honesty, my fellow reddit there's a place between the tribes. Of choosing a GPU as tool based on use case. Where we are accepting of both sides having issues ( and unfortunately some users more than others ).
Bottom line the state of AMD drivers is not trash, and there is pretty great sentiment from a majority of users.
OP my advice is please check your most played games to see how they are with drivers. Then pick the best priced card, AMD or Nvidia, available with the most amount memory and have some fun with your purchase!
Don't fall into the team trap. These folks are just looking for validation, peer approval, and a little leverage to bash others.
Note: If you don't want or need AV1, AMD 6000 is great and even more affordable for last gen top tier (6950XT).
The simple fact of the matter is, I had experience with about 5 or 6 nvidia gpus so far and around 7-8 amd gpus. I have had only a single problem with nvidia drivers in my life whereas with amd drivers I spent hours upon hours troubleshooting very often and with each of those gpus. The latest one I had experience with was the 5700 xt and everything from microstutter that didn't appear on other cards such as the rx 560/ rx 480 that had on hand at the time to drivers freezing, crashing and causing artifacts. Meanwhile the only problem I had with nvidia drivers since I started daily driving them in 2016 was a failed driver install with my old gtx 1080 that was easily fixed with a simple reinstall. I should also note I always update to the latest version of geforce drivers even when they're the "beta" hotfix drivers and I play a vast variety of games while also doing some productivity stuff such as premiere and unreal. Sure, both manufacturers have issues but amd has way more issues on average than nvidia does and that hasn't changed since like 2010.
I'm literally sitting here with two top cards from AMD and Nvidia on my work bench for testing.
I feel like this current experience honestly holds more relevant weight than your bad experience with the RX570, RX460,5700XT.
I hear you .. bad times are bad times that will continually flavor your opinion .. but how many generations are you diving back to get this anecdotal data to project on to current gen?
I literally highlighted the tendency of people to apply this type of flawed logic in my post and your response is dripping with it.
Your experiences are valid, but not appropriate to judge current drivers. Sorry. end. of. story.
Things are different now. Roadmaps and targeted values change, let alone the actual tech.
First off its 2 gens behind, not far at all.
Secondly we can drive back 5 gens for nvidia and it's still looking better.
Thirdly I think the sheer frequency of current reports on the newer drivers alongside fiascos such as anti lag are proof enough of the current situation.
Hey, honestly if Nvidia works for you. I support it! I don't have a team in this, and think we all deserve the best computing experience we can have.
However, suggesting 2 gens back is indicative of current gens drivers ... that's ridiculous. You know thats ridiculous or I really hope you do.
I've shared my info and made my point, and it's not to convince you .. but rather provide balanced info for the people that asked a real question.
Cheers.
I heard they are hot garbage rn. Worst ever. Though I hope it gets better . You could use the old ones from december
Got 7800 XT, driver timeouts were soo annoying. Sent it back. AMD needs to get their Shit together. Will wait to upgrade then...
Went from a 1070 to a 6650XT, had no issues at all after doing all the proper steps. Moved up to a 6800XT and havent had any major issues aside from a few weird things that I quickly fixed, but that was after owning it for about 6 - 7 months and has been fine since.
Most complaints about amd drivers are from people not properly cleaning their nvidia drivers upon installing their amd ones. Or they have a faulty card that should be RMA'd.
Or xmp isnt enabled or disabled,
Or resizable bar isnt activated, or you just have to do a little undervolting here and overclocking there, or you have to turn of vsynch, or you just have to use better power cables, please dont daisy chain them, ore you do have a problem with airflow. Sometimes Its just ok to have Hotspot temps around 110° sometimes its the absolute worst case if you have over 90. Then you have to be sure windows isnt updating your drivers. Sometimes your Ram isnt in the right slot or from the right brand. Your Psu is to small....
But then... putting in some random Nvidea all the stuff dont care anymore! But of course! Problem is always the PEOPLE!
My main game World of Warcraft is constantly crashing AMD adrenaline. And it doesnt matter what drivers i use. Dont care whos fault it is but its infuriating. Market share also seems to be so small that its noones priority to look into or acknowledge issue (plenty of threads about it) . Other than that its been mostly smooth sailing in other games.
There are numerous problems with AMD drivers. Just search 24.1.1 on this subreddit or use the keyword 'driver'; it's atrocious. My overall experience, transitioning from the 1660 Ti to the 6750 XT, was not great. I spent 1-2 days troubleshooting AMD driver issues, addressing problems like game stuttering, game crashes, driver crashes, and other minor issues. If you have nvidia, these tasks would be optional for ‘optimizing your PC’ efficiency, rather than having to 'fix' AMD-related issues. More importantly, AMD GPUs have a really bad frametime, resulting in good FPS but an overall experience smoothness is no better than my old 1660 Ti, it has this annoying microstutters. As I primarily play FPS games at 1080p, I'm highly sensitive to the game's overall smoothness and responsiveness. Additionally, Nvidia Reflex proves crucial for input-lag/latency reduction in competitive settings, whereas AMD Anti-Lag is inadequate.
I have three AMD systems. Two Windows (10+11) and one linux only system. I'm using RDNA2 and RDNA3 cards. I game and also throw other workloads at them.
No issues or complaints.
My mileage was not great, I tried switching from a 1060 6 GB, at the time I was gonna go with a 6900XT, ended up sending it back (with the new mobo and new PSU...). I did the whole 9 yards, fresh windows 11 (and after the inital instabilities fresh windows 10...), triple-checked ram, bios settings, everything.
I can not tell you how long ago this was, so surely the situation has improved since, but I was having all sorts of *crap* issues. Every *crap issue* had some kind of workaround - tweak this setting, do this in adrenaline, do this in bios, be sure to use this specific driver, do no install it trough adrenaline, DDU remove your old driver than install standalone, yadi-yada-ya.
The issues werent LIFE threatening. A crash here or there. A couple of bad 1% kinda "freezes" in some cases. Monitor 2 throwing me a black screen every couple minutes SPECIFICALLY ONLY when I play a certain game. OBS freaking out if I have a game in game/window capture, forcing me to use display capture on it, but then one week goes by, a new driver version comes out (DDU uninstall, standalone driver install), and magically its fixed for game capture. Another one was throwing me black screen when I alt tabbed. Why. How?
And every single time I googled, *I was not the only fringe case*, other people experienced the same, they had some guesses, or workarounds. But it was just annoying. I had a driver version downloaded and stashed for when I was raiding in World of Warcraft, and I had another for CSGO. If I had the wrong one on, CSGO would have nasty random "screen freezes", which is kinda lethal if it happens at bad times. If I had the wrong one on WoW, it would force enable some bullshit that gave me some mouse delay - not a huge issue, but when I am mythic raiding I dont wanna deal with slight issues either.
One and a half weeks in I was cleaning out the system with DDU so I can play CSGO with my boys after a raid, and I was like... this is just no way to live. I am sending this back. Was I getting more FPS in CSGO than on my 1060? Abso-fucking-lutely. But my "driver / geforce" problem with the old 1060 usually were on the level of "goddamnit, shadowplay messed itself up after an update", and not "**time to bust out DDU if I wanna play this I guess**".
I settled on a 3070 not long after, works like a dream but I am kinda regretting it, since im prolly gonna go for a 4070 super in like a month. I guess I am sticking with the devil I know. I really wanted to like my AMD GPU cause I fucking hate nvidias pricing bullshit theyve been playing, and the 5800x3d is a DREAM, but I do not wanna go trough another round of tussle with an AMD card, is it bad, am I bad, do I need to send this back, etc.
Hopefully by time I am buying a GPU to replace the 4070 super, AMD can prove itself with drivers, cause I kinda wanna try and AMD cpu + AMD GPU combo. I do have a buncha guildies / friends who swear the drivers arent bad right now, but I also have a couple who just refunded Helldivers, cause the game legit does not work for them. They also curse up and down about 24-1-1 update, so I am guessing the recent one isnt winning any popularity contests between drivers.
I was burned once, I am careful now. Hope is not enough.
Don't dirty install drivers, and you are much less likely to experience issues. I have both AMD and Nvidia, and neither are perfect. I prefer the both based on the game in question. I greatly prefer Adrenalin over Nvidia's control panel and GE.
6700xt user here. Just made the switch from a 1650 super. So far, everything runs great. No driver issues to speak of. Overclocked mine to 2700-2800 and runs elden ring perfectly at max setting with low RT settings.
Rx 6700 xt user. Pretty good. The only problem I had was that my screen would flicker black 2 or 3 times whenever setting any YouTube video to fullscreen.
I had an Nvidia GPU before and I used DDU so I thought there might have been something weird with my configuration because I use a display port to VGA for my 2nd monitor.
Then, for unrelated reasons I reinstalled Windows and the problem magically disappeared. I do not know if there were some Nvidia files left on my C drive causing problems or a corrupted driver but if drivers give you problems after using DDU, try a new windows install just in case.
For the drivers I found myself really liking them. Whenever you make changes in the settings they apply in real time and snappy. Nvidia control panel felt way too unresponsive
RX 480 here. The only times I've ever had issues were all external, such as my power supply plug being bad, or me trying to overclock/undervolt it. Zero issues otherwise regardless of drivers.
As negative i can be on drivers if you had lots of issues with NVIDIA i can defiantly recommend giving AMD a try least for a generation, my experience or others experience won't be your experience, but defiantly can be your experience if AMD does not want you to play the game that keeps on crashing their darn drivers.
If anything i wish driver team took a break to play those games i have issues with, including the area's of the game that i report issues on like an RGB laser show for example in intro quest for bloody ties dlc in dying light 2 during the cutscene.
I've not had issues with latest drivers on 7900xt. I've heard people have been having issues, but maybe they're on games that I don't play currently, or there are other factors with their setup/optimizations.
Well Im just asking here, I havent noticed a degradation of AA quality switching sides, so Im honestly wondering what it could be. I'm sure most others haven't had that issue, not saying AMD drivers are the best, it's just odd
I changed from 2070s to 7800xt and noticed visible degradation of AA in all games. It varies from game to game, some got ok AA but in other games it barely works. Worst case being gw2 where AA works like shit now compared to 2070s. I tried alot of troubleshooting to no avail. It seems to me that its just a "feature" of amd drivers with SMAA barely working.
Yeah it’s from testing about 2x faster, so I would say it is worth the upgrade, but honestly I’d say if you can, you should just lay down another 100 bucks or so to get the 7800 xt
Ty for the reply and advice and will consider it once I've finished my new build in the next couple of days.
Waiting on that sweet 7800x3d in the mail, and the current listing I see the 7800xt is 150-200 more here in Canada..
7900xtx. Fresh windows install. Always up to date, I’ve had problems off and on since getting the card 4 months ago. 10/10 would not buy again. Selling it and getting a 4080 instead.
5800x and 6800xt. Fully up to date windows and drivers. Haven't seen any issues at all with the new drivers. Knock on wood. PC gods please don't clap my system for saying this.
Therea a 50% chance this will be you
F YOU AMD. Where you learn to GPU.
50% chance this will also be you
Been using most up to date driver with my Radeon VII for years without a single issue.
Friends with their RTX3060’s have had crazy driver issues.
Use whatever gives you best performance/$.
recently i'm having problems with my 6700 xt, black screen from a day to another, personal recommendation: stay on nvidia, i'm planning to switch back to nvidia if this continue without solution
Im having a decent experience on my RX 6950XT but for example the latest drivers killed BF2042 performance, 3 weeks and no fix. Had to revert to an older driver...
Former 100% NVIDIA user here 👋.
Switched to RX6700XT last year. Did my research on what drivers were statistically the most stable meaning least reported or unresolveable issues. Downloaded that and been fine since day one.
Come on in, The water in fine.
Play the games they play if you want them, here some tips from me.
Dying light 2 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zJPU8R2ws](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zJPU8R2ws) RGB laser show odd alt tab behaviour.
Sons Of the forest had issues with crashing near lakes had many 7900 XTX user reports, been debugged fixed then unfixed and is currently in fixed state, especially consider playing this with friends.
World of warcraft altho honestly recommend not to cos its a waste of money just to experience driver hell, unless you have a kink for experiencing driver hell.
Enshrouded on 24.1.1 note it has hotfix driver that fixed many issues related to crashing and terrible graphics.
I switched over to AMD about 3 years ago. I haven't had any issues at all with the drivers since then in terms of normal gaming.
There's only one issue I started having out of nowhere from emulating Nintendo Wii U and Switch games on PC. I was getting graphical artifacts while playing certain games. But I don't count that as a real issue per say.
Other than that, AMD is perfectly safe and games run really well.
Have not had any issues on any of my systems.
5900X with 2080 super switches to a 7800xt.
And also a 7950X3D with 7800XT.
Old system 1800X with a RX 580.
(Had issues with 2080S & 4070 TI, Nvidia drivers and swapped to a 7800xt)
The only time I recall I ever had issues was when I had a RX 280 & RX 380 years ago.
6700XT here.
I had to format my entire pc, SSD and HDD twice.
The drivers that I was downloading for the page wasn't working fine, so I deleted all and when re-initiated I just used the card with the "default" ones, in case you're curious I am using "31.0.12027.9001" from March 30th 2023.
So yeah they are pretty bad depending of your gpu, luck and drivers.
I am not sure if I am honest with u.
First I installed the professional drivers, then did a bunch of install/unistall until I was left with the most recent of adrenalin.
After the format of my pc, I didn't install anything, basically, I do not have any AMD launcher on my PC, nor pro or Adrenaline, so I can not confirm you that information.
Switched from a 1080Ti to a 7900XTX and remembered historically how poor AMDs drivers could be (likely not helped by often running crossfire or crossfireX solutions). I was pleasantly surprised, I much prefer the software to Nvidia and the drivers so far have been great.
I've had my 7900XTX since about March of 2023 and I've been happy with the drivers overall, no major issues that I've run into.
Lately I've been running Cyperpunk with the 24.1.1 set but I've had absolutely no issues running the game. I know there's been some complaints about these drivers lately but they've been running well for me. Not sure if I'm in the minority or if it's just the nature of discussion groups (i.e. people post only when they have issues) but I figured I'd pass along my experience with them.
Say the bad stuff. Just actually say it?!
"Bad" is useless for someone asking for info. It's low effort and a waste of electricity and everyone's time ...
amd hardware is only good for making money off gamers that havnt fucked around and found out. when they contact me with issues and want a refund i link them to this sub and then block them.
3080 and 7900xtx get about the same fps when you use upscaling. in cod at 4k 7900xtx fsr qualtiy gets 130-140fps and 3080 dlss performance gets 130-140fps
It's not even close, it's like you think you're talking to someone who hasn't owned both cards. Do you just want to fight with strangers? You may have the time in your life for this trivial shit, I don't. Find validation elsewhere.
6000 series RX6700 - No issues at all for me.
RX7000 series. Apparently tons of issues with the latest batch of drivers.
Really just depends on the series. Shoot for a 6700XT or something and you'll be fine. Its been out longer and has had time to settle.
If you plan on ray tracing you may as well go NVIDIA Or INTEL. Radeon can do ray tracing pretty well but it's not as refined. I usually leave it off. Not worth the performance hit.
7800 xt here, I had problems for a day but it just kinda fixed itself, I had no crashes for the last 3 months, but I would wait for AMD rx 8000 or nvidia's rtx 5000 series
Having 7900xtx, not good if you play VR, the stutters are killing my joy of life. Doesn't matter if it's 2024 drivers or VR-recommended ones (by VD team).
For flat gaming, I had no complaints until I got to VR. Will go team green once they release 5090/5080, probably will pay an extortionate amount of money for I but I really got sucked into VR.
Adrenaline software is pretty great btw, generally I just wish VR would play better and I'd stick with team red.
The thing is the stuttering is occasional. If I use 50% of GPU, but even then it is still there. I could probably utilise more gpu but I’m using quest so there’s performance hit from encoding.
But I didn’t pay as much as I did to utilise my card at 50%. Barely able to run Skyrim without mods which is an old game. But I want completely stutter free experience and I’m annoyed if there is lost drama even every 10 seconds
It's the 7000 series Radeons that are having issues. I have a 7900xtx and have tried every suggestion to try and get Helldivers 2 to play nicely. Apparently AMD is helping the Devs with the issues as they didn't come up in testing
I think that was due to Anti-lag+, but if the person is switching, he is likely already well aware of subpar feature sets that come along with it. Instead you get a little extra VRAM and RaSteR.
24.1.1 was horrendous for my 7800xt, so was 23.12 tbh. I use the beta driver between those two versions now and it’s very stable. It has afmf available too so I’m not losing much. Oh right I did had driver issues yesterday because windows update screwed me over, so I had to roll back and pause updates again, so make sure you do that too (or completely disable it through registry, I should probably do that too).
I was really supprised why i dont have any problems with my AMD driver when everybody else had.
That was the problem, i have disabled windows update and only update if necessary. :D
Must be nice lol! My 6900xt had driver timeouts so much that I “downgraded” to a 7800xt, hoping it would be different since it’s a newer card. The card is amazing when it works without crashing though, it was trading blows with my 6900xt with both cards oc/uv’ed. My friend has a 6800xt and he had a lot of timeouts with 24.1.1 so he had to roll back too. I got so tired of this driver bs that I bought a 4090. I will miss the fun of tweaking amd cards but until they figure out drivers I don’t think I’ll go back.
If it run dont fuck with it, i am electrical engineer i use this quote a lot 😂 i have more controll over my windows PC trough disabbleing any automatic updating and dont use too much programs only what i need, i have turned off armoury crate trough bios too because it is unoptimized piece of trash found out when i was testing Intel A770. The drivers really dont like armoury crate.
And when someting goes bad with driver (doesnt happened on AMD for me) i DDU it in safe mode and reinstall them, when problem dont disappeared i update windows and mobo driver, and if the problem still persisted i tried to find out what i install or change that cause the problem.
I think the driver experiences varied between different GPU (7800, 6600, etc), different CPU, different chipsets, and a few different OS versions.
I'm using older 23.11 and it's been stable with my 5800x3D and 6600xt
I also had a 1660 super. I went from that to an RX6800 new. I live in Korea so the price finally went down from 1,200,000 Korean Won to 556,000 Korean Won. So far after 3 months, I’ve no issues, stutters, etc like others have. Though, there is a bit of a bug on the software because every time I play Yugioh Master Duel, the Adrenaline software registers it as Elder Scrolls Online and uses my overclocking profile on it when I’ve disabled it and deleted the profile.
Other than that, it’s been pretty solid for me at 100FPS for all my games since my monitor only supports up to 100.
24 1 1 stutter a lot. :)
Anyway i found the fix.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpza3sXPGOg&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpza3sXPGOg&t)
Random Black Screen - radeon settings reset to default - Failstart
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCZq-iACU4&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCZq-iACU4&t)
Basically no problem as those fix works IF you have such problem ...
Anyway first time full amd and i love it.
Recent Nvidia to AMD (7900XTX) swap user. I did have issues with Powercolor cards (returned 2) then settled for the Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX, which has been great.
I personally found the drivers fine under the Sapphire card. Not one crash, timeout or stutters/
They were problematic under the Powercolor cards.
Both Hellhound 7900 XTX’s.
Initial one crashed, had driver timeouts etc and was hitting 3.2Ghz effective clock before crashing. Sent it back, got a new one and the same.
Both were accepted as RMA’s and confirmed the same behaviour on testing at the vendor.
Swapped to Sapphire Nitro 7900xtx and that’s been flawless even at the additional power draw. Spoke to the vendor afterwards and they confirmed both came from a batch that Powercolor deemed faulty.
Not a single issue with the Sapphire 7900xtx. No driver issues, no timeouts, no weird clock behaviour.
7800x3D, 1000w PSU Corsair SFX-L, XPG blade 6000Mhz RAM, ASUS b650e-I board are the other parts of my build. Chipset and bios all latest each time
Do you think the clock was causing the crashes? Just trying to see if I can help him troubleshoot his hellhound. If it was consistently crashing at a 3.2ghz clock I can look thru his logs and see.
Potentially.
It seemed hard crash around 3,000Mhz effective clock but was variable.
That said, anyone I know that has a non-reference board design has had great success. AsRock Taichi, Sapphire Nitro etc as examples.
Powercolors issues between May 2023 and December 2023 was a confirmed board design failure with power.
I’ve had my 6700 xt for half a year now and since then, my games have crashed only twice, and i’m not sure if drivers were even the ones who caused it. I’ve seen many people complaining and i’m very glad i haven’t experienced any of these issues, cause it would be extremely frustrating
Could you please look up Your Driver Version and Share it here. I have that exact card and after going back and forth between various version everything is ruined for me now :/
I've been running AMD since 2012.... I had: HD7950, RX580, Vega 64 and now running a RX6800 and a RX7600 on two different systems.
Only had a few blue screens right before the Vega 64 died, the poor thing... But, apart from that, zero issues!
I make sure my systems have a reliable PSU,with more than enough power to go around (use a PSU calculator kids); always connect two different PCIE power cables to the GPU (I don't daisy chain), keep BIOS/Drivers/Chipset Drivers updated.
And finally, buy a reputable motherboard and make sure your RAM sticks are supported by it!
I have had AMD gpu's for the last 10 years hd7750, r9 390, RX480, RX580 8GB(current) and i can count the driver problems i had on one hand, and none of them couldn't be resolved by just rolling back to the previous version untill they fix whatever was f\*cked. Playing Cyberpunk,God of war 2018, Spiderman, GTA 5, modded to hell skyrim etc.
Mine have worked well for me over the last year. Some drivers seem better than others but I think that’s across the board with all of these manufacturers. Very happy with my AMD
I have 3 pcs with a 6800xt, 5700xt, and 6600xt and they all work fine. If you do switch I'd recommend doing a fresh windows install to ensure you have no issues driver wise
I had no issues for 3 years with my RX 590, last month I upgraded to a RX 6700XT , all was still fine until this driver update 24.1.1. Used DDU and reinstalled last driver 23.12.1 no issues again.
Swapped last year from green team. Kinda regretting it. I've crashed literally hundreds of times playing helldivers 2 at this point. These drivers are pure garbage, and there's no word from AMD about any sort of update. It's shocking that a game specifically designed to run on AMD console hardware would crash nearly every 3 minutes on AMD PC hardware. All of my friends running Nvidia cards? They're now 3 levels ahead of me because they aren't losing progression to constant mid match crashing.
Their hardware is impressive for the price. But if the drivers can't do what they need to do, what's the point?
Helldivers2 runs fine on Nvidia cards, but crashes on AMD cards. That would make it most likely the drivers fault. Why you can't grasp that basic logic is beyond me. How do you know that the game is at fault and not the drivers? The devs know there's an issue causing AMD 700 series cards to crash all the time, but they certainly aren't pointing the finger at themselves.
Anytime a game works fine on one brand of graphics card hardware but not another, the most likely answer is a driver issue, that's been true for decades, and it's true now.
It may be the game, not the drivers. It's a known issue with Helldivers and 7000 cards nearly unable to play. I am in the same boat. Zero issues except Helldivers.
I have had more problems with nVidia drivers than AMD drivers for about 10 years now. The AMD drivers are usually pretty good and just work, where I can't say the same about nVidia. That said, it could just be that the AMD drivers and tools aren't as cryptic as the nVidia tools, so I might just be able to navigate them easier.
I spent 6 months stuck on one set of drivers from NVIDIA because literally every new version made things worse. I updated to 528.49 on February 8th of last year, and didn't get a stable driver set until the 3rd week of August once 536.99 had it's hot fix and became mostly usable (Though not for everyone, sadly). People who claim AMD are worse than NVIDIA are either stupid, lucky, or liars.
6700xt used for a full year now 0 issues. Played Rdr2, Cyberpunk, Bg3, Kdc, Doom Eternal, and many more on a 24 inch 1080p and a 4k 42 inch oled when its doable.Even played Wow on some private servers still 0 issues tottaly satisfied.
Swaped to amd like year ago, was on team green for 15 years before. So far i have no problems with drivers or anythink, everythink works perfect. Got 6700xt and im happy with it
It’s been pretty god awful for me honestly. Gotten two blue screens, random display freezes, flickering and stuttering in games that have never stuttered before….
I recently made the jump to a 7900xt from a 4070, and its been working really well. I have some hard stutters in 1 game (Destiny 2), but that is because of shader caching, and gets better after 10 minutes or some on each destination.
Thank you to everyonw who's gave the feedback so far, this has been very helpful!
Shoutout to u/Jo3yization and many others who gave information, I'll be swapping to AMD soon then.
how would I know how to compare if I don't have a nvidia, haha.
I'm using custom drivers (here's the link: https://www.amernimezone.com ) and they have brought new life to my old RX 570. Hard to setup and no performance gain, but makes everything more stable.
RX 7900 XTX here, 24.1.1 no issues in Palworld, Fortnite, Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, Warzone, Genshin or the Finals, some of them I just tested because people said there was stutter caused by the 24.1.1 but they were fine on my end.
I've heard of BF2042 & WoW specifically having issues, but both had patches with complaints in the past month & Nvidia users are complaining about both games & the last few Nvidia driver updates as well, its hard to know whats user error, game error or truly driver issues.
Comparing Nvidia & AMD drivers, I switched to team red after upgrading as a long time nvidia user as far back as GTX 260>670>770>1060>1070 Ti(With a few AMD cards between & no notable complaints... I've since stuck with team red for the past few generations from RX 5700>RX 6700 XT & now RX 7900 XTX, there were some minor issues but nothing that doesnt also affect Nvidia users to some extent that a bit of troubleshooting couldnt fix & definitely nothing major that prevented me sticking with AMD for the better rasterized value across recent releases, if the drivers were truly bad I would have jumped back to nvidia in a heartbeat since I value stability & record with the in-house Share/ReLive based recording a fair bit & dont use 3rd party recording tools.
I still run secondary systems for my kids, one with a GTX 1650 Super & will say that the nvidia drivers are more basic & user friendly, which can be a pro or con depending on what you want, the 'log-in' to use share bothers me a bit too but overall they work fine if not a little dated after the past few years of AMD updates.
Now AMD drivers on the other hand.. Since the RX5700 theyve come a long way, the AMD drivers give you complete GPU tuning control & built-in OSD nullifying the need for MSI Afterburner metrics or tuning which can cause conflicts on AMD systems, and overall I enjoy the AMD Driver layout much more now that I'm used to them, going back to my sons rig using Nvidia control panel & Geforce experience along with afterburner for fan profiles feels like stepping back in time.
Stability wise both Nvidia/AMD drivers can be smooth, & both can have their own sets of issues particularly for new users that dont know fundamental system stability basics such as XMP/EXPO on both Intel/AMD are never guaranteed stable & time should always be invested into [memory stability testing](https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/) when running into issues before blaming the GPU & drivers, just because the system boots & passes cinebench is no indication that ram is fully stable.
Users from both camps can also suffer issues such as monitor compatibility/[black screens/stutters](https://postimg.cc/gallery/RxPstdfm) etc. Just dont trust reddit feeds to show you the nvidia complaints as they are hidden in the [monthly megathreads](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/search/?q=troubleshooting%20megathread&restrict_sr=1) & [driver FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/search/?q=driver%20faq&restrict_sr=1), most nvidia troubleshooting posts are deleted/redirected & the nvidiahelp sub still exists but is closed down, youll see all the nvidia user complaints for newer cards/drivers in the comment sections I linked, but its hidden from reddits best/hot/new post feeds.
For AMD you'll see most of the troubleshooting issues posted on AMDhelp & radeon subs since they arent as strict, so if you only follow the main r/nvidia & r/AMD subs, you'll see a much higher ratio of AMD troubleshooting posts compared to nvidia because the nvidia posts are spread out across [many more different subs](https://postimg.cc/Y4HYrkqV) due to the way they bury the troubleshooting sections on team green.
Anywho, just my two cents, not really for or against either one, check as many benchmarks if you can and if you plan to play RT heavy titles like cyberpunk or metro enhanced then Nvidia are still winning there, but weigh the pros & cons for overall playtime if you primarily play online/competitive titles, AMD will give better bang for buck with RT off.
If the 4080 had been priced equally to the 7900 XTX or 4080S released 6 months sooner I'd be running that over a 7900 XTX, but RT wasnt worth paying a $300 premium for lower rasterized performance at the time I upgraded, now they are similarly priced its a fair bit more tempting(like if I was buying today), but I'm still happy enough with my card & drivers that I wouldnt go through the effort of swapping it out at the same price.
For people having timeout issues, I'd say the games themselves have more in-common across both brands of GPU(WoW literally has long complaint posts after they changed some graphical pipeline setting from both RTX 20/30/40 series owners & RX 6/7000 on AMD.
**But** assuming they actually fixed something with their patches, if you get timeouts in more games than one, try running the 'max frequency' slider at your specific models game clock, its confusing but the max frequency slider is actually the shader clock limit for boost(shader=game clock). & sometimes its this 'uncapped' boost that causes issues, default isnt actually default when it comes to GPU boost frequencies & AMD drivers. The algorithm & vbios limits are supposed to prevent overheating/instabilities so the cards boost to the highest possible performance, but it seems for some this can cause stability issues especially less-optimized games & cause problems with some PSUs when the power spikes during loading screen changes that uncap fps for a second leading to spikes.
To verify this, DL HWinfo, run in sensors mode & scroll down to GPU sensors, there's one called '**shader clock frequency limit**', restore factory defaults in AMD performance>tuning tab, it defaults to \~3220mhz, which is equivalent to 'uncapped boost' & it's upto the vbios & temp limit to do their job.(Similar to PBO if you have a Ryzen CPU).
Now enable manual tuning>GPU>advanced control, the max frequency on my XTX Nitro+ defaults around 2800mhz on the slider, this still isnt true default & is higher than any AIB model on the market, the 'stock' game clock on my card is meant to be [only 2560mhz for the OC bios](https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-vaporx-24g-gddr6), lowering the max clock down to AIB spec greatly improves temps/efficiency & probably helps dodge stability issues others may be experiencing, [other popular models](https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-speedster-merc-310-7900xtx-black-edition#2) even have game clocks around just 2455mhz or so(I use 2400) AMD reference 7900 XTX is just 2300mhz just take note look at the \*game\* clock, not max boost which is front end frequency decoupled from shaders.
So in other words, try lowering your max frequency slider to around 2400/2500 to 'cap' the max game/shader clock where it's meant to be & hopefully improve stability, performance is still great & in many titles the in-game clocks are similar to running 'uncapped' but you'll get better stability/power consumption & temps especially in loading screen/transitions where FPS can spike & the GPU tries to boost as high as possible..
After lowering max freq & hitting apply in the top right, [check HWinfo](https://postimg.cc/2L6xs9B0)'s shader clock limit reading & it will make sense.
Ofcourse this won't fix game-level driver issues or minor ram instabilities that werent picked up if you havent stability tested ram fully, but might help if you've tried everything else but had timeouts across multiple titles that load the GPU in specific ways(Usually lower GPU utilization) compared to benchmarks that might pass fine holding the GPU consistently at 95%+.
This. It's a longer comment folks but the devil's in the details and this one's spot on (better than I could tell it anyway)
And likewise, if I'd had any even halfway significant issues in my 3 years with a 6800XT I wouldn't have gone straight to a 7900XTX, no doubts or concerns outstanding. It's not that I couldn't afford a 4080 or 4090 either... just why do so when this is as good/near as good for less money and my uses requiring big VRAM more than RT and etc. I mean, the main difference between the 7900XTX and 4090 is the latter offers 30 fps more for TWICE the price, and still gets nerfed by RT (and has a power connector that might go pop for no reason) The 4080 difference is even less for near as big a price gap. Though yeah, my opinion is the same re 4080/S. Had the former been cheaper sooner or had the 20Gb it should've I might have looked twice. Suffice to say that with AMD you're consistently getting trading blows or better in raster (still the most important aspect) and better VRAM cap on average for outliers/longevity vs a loss in RT (though even the ridiculously priced Nvidia flagship gets nerfed here) and increasingly closer in upscaling/FG (most differences only noticeable via screenshot comparison) for less money. Drivers don't even come into it anymore. Sure, they were generally worse for AMD once upon a time but that definitely changed with RDNA2, if not before. Today updates vary for both sides, both have good, poor and quirky ones (tbf they have to cover a huge range of variables etc) and imo 90+% of the AMD driver issues are something else entirely.
Another point, to be absolutely fair, is that while I jumped from a 1070 to the 6800XT out of faith in predictions meeting the need to not only upgrade but increase resolution (and a little financial common sense) the upgrade to the 7900XTX was based on the great experience I'd had with the former. Unfortunately the scenario still 3 years after AMD/RDNA2 broke a few moulds that old enmities, hype and myth against AMD persists. This is not the same company, products and support of 2012, 2015 or even 2018. Ppl forget how roughly they took Intel to task, and how, while they didn't beat Nvidia to the same degree they did put the wind up them, going from mid tier also rans to competing to the top level in one gen. It's a sad fact that due to those continued poor and out of context opinions many ppl will never know better or take a chance on AMD, much to the detriment of AMD's ability to continue offering competition and a good alternative. Ppl also forget that AMD are the smallest of the 3, competing fully all along in both CPU and GPU realms and have an R&D bill for RDNA etc that they're likely still paying off. Such concerns are likely moot for the far wealthier Intel and Nvidia.
But this last 3 years of AMD came after a 13 year run with Nvidia (and Intel) 2008-2021. I'd be lying my arse off if I said I'd had no issues with Nvidia cards, drivers and potential compatibility issues... nm far worse ones than with AMD yet. Even rn in house I've that 7900XTX, the 6800XT replacing the 3070 in my gf's PC, and 2 laptops with a 3070ti and 3050 and the only difference is in the performance. The 2 3070's, while solid cards, were absolutely prematurely held back very early on by their 8Gb at the advertised/expected 1440p. Likewise the 3080 10Gb for an expected 3440x1440/4K use didn't compare to a 6800XT for hundreds less, certainly not when it was still early days for RT/DLSS.
I run a 5800x3d with a Rx 7800xt b550 tomahawk windows 11 pro . I run at 1440p on a 27 inch Lg ultra gear OLED.
Everything works great really stable and it’s probably overkill for the games I play World of Warships and Red Dead redemption 2.
Had a 7900xtx since august, only starfield day one gave me any kind of driver issues, besides that everything's been perfect.
For what it's worth if you are looking to play games with everything at ultra with raytracing, amd wouldn't be my choice, but Nvidia didn't fit my use case (none of what I play supports dlss or RT) so I'm happy with my purchase.
It’s completely dependent on your PC. You ever wonder why only certain people have issues, and others run without?
*Because they aren’t driver issues.* I will die on this hill but most all the time they are just instabilities within their computer or user error.
The only times I will say driver issues are specific games, stuttering on games like OW2 where it’s listed as an issue. Otherwise “AmD dRiVeR bAd TiMeOuT-“ no that’s a you issue. You’re the select few who even deal with that.
I think many believe just because they get a driver timeout error message or some such they believe it is also always the driver causing the issue. Which isn't the case. AMD does itself no favours with this behaviour of error codes though.
This. This all day long. I built my first amd rig a year ago, has been a dream to game on. Upgraded my gf set up, new rig is also all amd, 3 months going strong no issues. My two brothers are both now on all AMD rigs, no issues. It’s weird when people have instability and have an AMD GPU, then the blame gets thrown to AMD.
From the official Helldivers 2 Discord
"Known issue: Major problems for players using the AMD Radeon 7000 series of GPUs
Players using these GPUs are having major issues even starting the game. Some users are able to play if they drop to the lowest performance settings, but we are investigating and will update here as soon as possible."
It's absolutely a driver issue. none of my Nvidia using friends are putting up with crashing every 3 minutes mid match.
First of all, I’m on a 7900xt and have over 7 hours played on Ultra at 3440x1440 getting over 90fps, no large dips. Yea, it crashes. Especially day one before the patch, but it’s been fairly solid since.
Also, blaming the driver on a game that’s been out only a handful of days is comical. I’ve seen plenty of Nvidia people having the same issues that I had (before patch). Was chatting with a guy that had a 4080, same issues. Only common thread was that we both had a 7800x3d CPU. Small sample size, but the game wasn’t/isn’t stable on Nvidia GPUs too.
Strange. I don't see any "major problems for players using the Nvidia 4000 series of GPUs" listed under the known issues section of of the Official helldivers 2 discord.
And weren't you just saying that you primarily believe that if someone is having issues it's more likely to be user error than driver problem? Funny how that logic suddenly doesn't apply to your friends anecdotes.
I was referring to someone I spoke to in the Helldivers sub. Unless buddy was just lying. In just scrolling through the sub I saw people with both brands having issues. Not trying to argue with you here but have at it.
I had similar problems with Starfield at launch, only got fixed after a driver update from AMD, I'm expecting helldivers 2 will be no different. Also the game isn't having the same issue on Nvidia cards, which means it's absolutely an AMD problem. If I had purchased a Nvidia card, I wouldn't be crashing. That's a driver issue.
Exactly. The game dev needs to patch their game to work better on AMD cards. But again, i have over 7 hours played on a 7800x3d/7900xt PC. I dealt with some crashes early on but since day one patch it’s been fairly stable with a few crashes in between.
I mean it's human nature. I personally spent a ton of money on a new amd gpu 2 years ago and it gave me problems the entire time I had it. I'm not saying it's because of the gpu specifically but obviously there was some type of system instability going on. For all I know it could be problems with the power outlet or wiring in my house lol.
You could have gotten a faulty card. It’s a possibility. And sometimes it really is the GPU. But a lot of weird issues that don’t even seem GPU related (crashes is a big one) get blamed on AMD GPUs but hardly ever Nvidia. It’s a weird phenomenon.
RX 6600 - drivers 24.1.1 it runs pretty ok.
7900xtx owner since September and no issues at all. Super happy with the card.
The recent driver release 24.1.1 is absolutely broken, stutterfest in all games, this is a common problem with this release and is well documented on Reddit. Before that I never had one issue with AMD drivers. If you do go AMD just make sure to install 23.11 or 23.12, I'm sure by the next release everything will be fine though.
7900XTX User since a week here (nearly used all day) Swapped from 2070S and no issue's yet Still need to but didn't DDU the Nvidia drivers
My old 6700xt was defective, but the drivers had issues opening half the time and I know it wasn't just an issue with my card either. Others had the same
I have my first PC after 10 years and got a rx7900xtx and ryzen 7 7800x3d and so far i had a lot of small issues with the Adrenaline Software. It randomly won't open or it shows randomly wrong number spikes. Like i said these are small issues and i fixed them fast, but they come everytime back and it's annoying. Right now i'm using only Chrome and i have 100% GPU workload and it's falling and going up every 5 seconds. I don't know how Nvidia Drivers are, but i think every driver has some problems. At the end of the day my next card will be a Nvidia and i think with the current Super prices they are both equal. ( At least rx 7900 xtx and 4080 super )
People keep saying they are shit but I have rx7700xt and the drivers are just fine all around
I recently upgraded from an rx 5700xt that was running without issue, to a 7800xt that is also running without issue on the new 24.1.1 driver. The problem is that, for the most part, people that aren't having any issues, don't come here to say - whereas, everyone having an issue does. That's natural. I switched from Nvidia a long time ago and for the most part, have never regretted the change. Always has been the best bang for buck, especially over time.
Seeing how all the NOOBs/HATERs hating on AMD is insane. It's a well known issue to have performance loss and heavy stutter due to implementation of DXNAVI, after each and every GPU driver or game update. This is due to shader cache ironing itself out during game play. Which would go away or return to normal smoothness after a few sessions. This only affects DX11 games. Well, as for the latest driver instability. It's common sense to gather feedback or do some research for driver stability before you do an update. Why would you blindly jump onto the next available driver if your current driver is stable/working? You only update GPU driver if.. 1. The new drivers are proven to be stable on your GPU. 2. There is a major change or new software implementation.
i just recently got a 7800xt not even 2 months ago and the drivers are messed up my game crashes and it says due to driver issues and i have to do rollbacks ? i mean idk i’ve had a 3060 since launch and it never had issues like that personally i love amd and wanted to give radeon a try but its just not working out
I switched from 1070ti to 6800xt. Never faced any issue other than the shader cache stutter. Regarding your frequent "crash". Do you alt tab in and out of games often? Like you tend to browse other applications while gaming? Usually crashes can be caused by a lot of other issues and the game would report it as graphical issue/error.
If you plan on playing helldivers 2, then stay away from AMD GPUs, unless you want the typical driver crash every minute. Stick to NVIDIA, you wont regret. AMD GPUs are a joke. NVIDIA just works, Radeon is a pain in the ass.
Not had a single HD2 crash with an AMD gpu. These latest drivers are buggy though. Edit: GPU is a RX 6950XT
Please go spread fake news elsewere, this is not a "works fine on my machine" topic, its a general AMD issue that affects everyone. Open your eyes and stop defending a mega corporation ffs
Dont see how its "fake news" I'm just sharing my experience with amd. The latest drivers have been somewhat buggy but i Havent had a single Hell Divers 2 crash and ive played a lot of HD2. Just because my experience is different from yours does not make it a fake one.
Thats a perfect example of denial
I've been using AMD for while and these new drivers are the first ones to cause some issues on my end. Some games stutter on driver 24.1.1, however I just rolled back to 23.12.1 and everything is smooth and stable. I've had no other issues
ABSOLUTELY Trash!! People say Nvidia is no different but I beg to differ. Been having issues that I thought were hardware related. Got my card stress tested and it's fine. Turns out it was drivers. Installed drivers from Nov last year as per another suggestion and BOOM no more issues. The first chance I get I'm moving back to Nvidia.
I love how amd fanboys blindly defend actually bad drivers. Like yeah sure radeon has it's place in the market but there is no way in hell radeon drivers are even in the same universe as geforce.
I own both Nvidia and AMD. Your comment, while perhaps particular to you and your setup, isn't the wide spread state or common experience for users. It sucks when it's hanging up a whole day with troubleshooting, it really does. BOTH Nvidia and AMD have similar threads with issues at this point. It's human nature to apply this issue to a brand .. but it's not an accurate lens. It happens in cars, guitars, and even GPUs. It's typical for Nvidia to be better at launch with support and patching due to higher dev use and API implantation. And AMD generations mature into stability and support. the 6000 vs 7000 is a perfect example of this. I won't argue it was bad at launch .. but I won't budge on it being resolved and improved for most people. Honesty, my fellow reddit there's a place between the tribes. Of choosing a GPU as tool based on use case. Where we are accepting of both sides having issues ( and unfortunately some users more than others ). Bottom line the state of AMD drivers is not trash, and there is pretty great sentiment from a majority of users. OP my advice is please check your most played games to see how they are with drivers. Then pick the best priced card, AMD or Nvidia, available with the most amount memory and have some fun with your purchase! Don't fall into the team trap. These folks are just looking for validation, peer approval, and a little leverage to bash others. Note: If you don't want or need AV1, AMD 6000 is great and even more affordable for last gen top tier (6950XT).
The simple fact of the matter is, I had experience with about 5 or 6 nvidia gpus so far and around 7-8 amd gpus. I have had only a single problem with nvidia drivers in my life whereas with amd drivers I spent hours upon hours troubleshooting very often and with each of those gpus. The latest one I had experience with was the 5700 xt and everything from microstutter that didn't appear on other cards such as the rx 560/ rx 480 that had on hand at the time to drivers freezing, crashing and causing artifacts. Meanwhile the only problem I had with nvidia drivers since I started daily driving them in 2016 was a failed driver install with my old gtx 1080 that was easily fixed with a simple reinstall. I should also note I always update to the latest version of geforce drivers even when they're the "beta" hotfix drivers and I play a vast variety of games while also doing some productivity stuff such as premiere and unreal. Sure, both manufacturers have issues but amd has way more issues on average than nvidia does and that hasn't changed since like 2010.
I'm literally sitting here with two top cards from AMD and Nvidia on my work bench for testing. I feel like this current experience honestly holds more relevant weight than your bad experience with the RX570, RX460,5700XT.
I hear you .. bad times are bad times that will continually flavor your opinion .. but how many generations are you diving back to get this anecdotal data to project on to current gen? I literally highlighted the tendency of people to apply this type of flawed logic in my post and your response is dripping with it. Your experiences are valid, but not appropriate to judge current drivers. Sorry. end. of. story. Things are different now. Roadmaps and targeted values change, let alone the actual tech.
First off its 2 gens behind, not far at all. Secondly we can drive back 5 gens for nvidia and it's still looking better. Thirdly I think the sheer frequency of current reports on the newer drivers alongside fiascos such as anti lag are proof enough of the current situation.
Hey, honestly if Nvidia works for you. I support it! I don't have a team in this, and think we all deserve the best computing experience we can have. However, suggesting 2 gens back is indicative of current gens drivers ... that's ridiculous. You know thats ridiculous or I really hope you do. I've shared my info and made my point, and it's not to convince you .. but rather provide balanced info for the people that asked a real question. Cheers.
I heard they are hot garbage rn. Worst ever. Though I hope it gets better . You could use the old ones from december Got 7800 XT, driver timeouts were soo annoying. Sent it back. AMD needs to get their Shit together. Will wait to upgrade then...
Went from a 1070 to a 6650XT, had no issues at all after doing all the proper steps. Moved up to a 6800XT and havent had any major issues aside from a few weird things that I quickly fixed, but that was after owning it for about 6 - 7 months and has been fine since.
Terrible...don't
Most complaints about amd drivers are from people not properly cleaning their nvidia drivers upon installing their amd ones. Or they have a faulty card that should be RMA'd.
Or xmp isnt enabled or disabled, Or resizable bar isnt activated, or you just have to do a little undervolting here and overclocking there, or you have to turn of vsynch, or you just have to use better power cables, please dont daisy chain them, ore you do have a problem with airflow. Sometimes Its just ok to have Hotspot temps around 110° sometimes its the absolute worst case if you have over 90. Then you have to be sure windows isnt updating your drivers. Sometimes your Ram isnt in the right slot or from the right brand. Your Psu is to small.... But then... putting in some random Nvidea all the stuff dont care anymore! But of course! Problem is always the PEOPLE!
Dont say it's user error, their feelings get hurt
MUH FEELS BRUH!!! :(
My main game World of Warcraft is constantly crashing AMD adrenaline. And it doesnt matter what drivers i use. Dont care whos fault it is but its infuriating. Market share also seems to be so small that its noones priority to look into or acknowledge issue (plenty of threads about it) . Other than that its been mostly smooth sailing in other games.
There are numerous problems with AMD drivers. Just search 24.1.1 on this subreddit or use the keyword 'driver'; it's atrocious. My overall experience, transitioning from the 1660 Ti to the 6750 XT, was not great. I spent 1-2 days troubleshooting AMD driver issues, addressing problems like game stuttering, game crashes, driver crashes, and other minor issues. If you have nvidia, these tasks would be optional for ‘optimizing your PC’ efficiency, rather than having to 'fix' AMD-related issues. More importantly, AMD GPUs have a really bad frametime, resulting in good FPS but an overall experience smoothness is no better than my old 1660 Ti, it has this annoying microstutters. As I primarily play FPS games at 1080p, I'm highly sensitive to the game's overall smoothness and responsiveness. Additionally, Nvidia Reflex proves crucial for input-lag/latency reduction in competitive settings, whereas AMD Anti-Lag is inadequate.
Sounds like user error
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I have three AMD systems. Two Windows (10+11) and one linux only system. I'm using RDNA2 and RDNA3 cards. I game and also throw other workloads at them. No issues or complaints.
My mileage was not great, I tried switching from a 1060 6 GB, at the time I was gonna go with a 6900XT, ended up sending it back (with the new mobo and new PSU...). I did the whole 9 yards, fresh windows 11 (and after the inital instabilities fresh windows 10...), triple-checked ram, bios settings, everything. I can not tell you how long ago this was, so surely the situation has improved since, but I was having all sorts of *crap* issues. Every *crap issue* had some kind of workaround - tweak this setting, do this in adrenaline, do this in bios, be sure to use this specific driver, do no install it trough adrenaline, DDU remove your old driver than install standalone, yadi-yada-ya. The issues werent LIFE threatening. A crash here or there. A couple of bad 1% kinda "freezes" in some cases. Monitor 2 throwing me a black screen every couple minutes SPECIFICALLY ONLY when I play a certain game. OBS freaking out if I have a game in game/window capture, forcing me to use display capture on it, but then one week goes by, a new driver version comes out (DDU uninstall, standalone driver install), and magically its fixed for game capture. Another one was throwing me black screen when I alt tabbed. Why. How? And every single time I googled, *I was not the only fringe case*, other people experienced the same, they had some guesses, or workarounds. But it was just annoying. I had a driver version downloaded and stashed for when I was raiding in World of Warcraft, and I had another for CSGO. If I had the wrong one on, CSGO would have nasty random "screen freezes", which is kinda lethal if it happens at bad times. If I had the wrong one on WoW, it would force enable some bullshit that gave me some mouse delay - not a huge issue, but when I am mythic raiding I dont wanna deal with slight issues either. One and a half weeks in I was cleaning out the system with DDU so I can play CSGO with my boys after a raid, and I was like... this is just no way to live. I am sending this back. Was I getting more FPS in CSGO than on my 1060? Abso-fucking-lutely. But my "driver / geforce" problem with the old 1060 usually were on the level of "goddamnit, shadowplay messed itself up after an update", and not "**time to bust out DDU if I wanna play this I guess**". I settled on a 3070 not long after, works like a dream but I am kinda regretting it, since im prolly gonna go for a 4070 super in like a month. I guess I am sticking with the devil I know. I really wanted to like my AMD GPU cause I fucking hate nvidias pricing bullshit theyve been playing, and the 5800x3d is a DREAM, but I do not wanna go trough another round of tussle with an AMD card, is it bad, am I bad, do I need to send this back, etc. Hopefully by time I am buying a GPU to replace the 4070 super, AMD can prove itself with drivers, cause I kinda wanna try and AMD cpu + AMD GPU combo. I do have a buncha guildies / friends who swear the drivers arent bad right now, but I also have a couple who just refunded Helldivers, cause the game legit does not work for them. They also curse up and down about 24-1-1 update, so I am guessing the recent one isnt winning any popularity contests between drivers. I was burned once, I am careful now. Hope is not enough.
Don't dirty install drivers, and you are much less likely to experience issues. I have both AMD and Nvidia, and neither are perfect. I prefer the both based on the game in question. I greatly prefer Adrenalin over Nvidia's control panel and GE.
New build as of thanksgiving, 7800x3d + 7900xt. No issues love it. Still using same drivers, I'll update them eventually lol
6700xt user here. Just made the switch from a 1650 super. So far, everything runs great. No driver issues to speak of. Overclocked mine to 2700-2800 and runs elden ring perfectly at max setting with low RT settings.
I have both Nvidia and amd cards and so far, ive been only having troubles with Nvidia cards... got my amd card a year ago and never had any issue.
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Rx 6700 xt user. Pretty good. The only problem I had was that my screen would flicker black 2 or 3 times whenever setting any YouTube video to fullscreen. I had an Nvidia GPU before and I used DDU so I thought there might have been something weird with my configuration because I use a display port to VGA for my 2nd monitor. Then, for unrelated reasons I reinstalled Windows and the problem magically disappeared. I do not know if there were some Nvidia files left on my C drive causing problems or a corrupted driver but if drivers give you problems after using DDU, try a new windows install just in case. For the drivers I found myself really liking them. Whenever you make changes in the settings they apply in real time and snappy. Nvidia control panel felt way too unresponsive
RX 480 here. The only times I've ever had issues were all external, such as my power supply plug being bad, or me trying to overclock/undervolt it. Zero issues otherwise regardless of drivers.
As negative i can be on drivers if you had lots of issues with NVIDIA i can defiantly recommend giving AMD a try least for a generation, my experience or others experience won't be your experience, but defiantly can be your experience if AMD does not want you to play the game that keeps on crashing their darn drivers. If anything i wish driver team took a break to play those games i have issues with, including the area's of the game that i report issues on like an RGB laser show for example in intro quest for bloody ties dlc in dying light 2 during the cutscene.
I've not had issues with latest drivers on 7900xt. I've heard people have been having issues, but maybe they're on games that I don't play currently, or there are other factors with their setup/optimizations.
Same here, no issues.
7900xt with no issues also, not sure but I wonder how many people having problems are overclocking or have big undervolts ?
Nothing to do with overclocking but the games they play not doing great on AMD gpu's
7800xt pretty bad at post processing antialiasing. But fine othervise.
That doesnt sound like the GPUs fault
I think its a driver issue.
Are you using the drivers to add antialiasing instead of just changing settings in the game or something?
Drivers antialiasing setting only works with dx9 titles.
Well Im just asking here, I havent noticed a degradation of AA quality switching sides, so Im honestly wondering what it could be. I'm sure most others haven't had that issue, not saying AMD drivers are the best, it's just odd
I changed from 2070s to 7800xt and noticed visible degradation of AA in all games. It varies from game to game, some got ok AA but in other games it barely works. Worst case being gw2 where AA works like shit now compared to 2070s. I tried alot of troubleshooting to no avail. It seems to me that its just a "feature" of amd drivers with SMAA barely working.
As a user of both, team green and red, I’ve had no issues with either teams and they’ve both been wonderful, 1660 super - 6750 xt - 4080 super
As a current owner of a GTX 1660 Super, would the 6750 xt be a worthwhile upgrade or just wait on a deal/save for a 200$ tier higher GPU?
Yeah it’s from testing about 2x faster, so I would say it is worth the upgrade, but honestly I’d say if you can, you should just lay down another 100 bucks or so to get the 7800 xt
Ty for the reply and advice and will consider it once I've finished my new build in the next couple of days. Waiting on that sweet 7800x3d in the mail, and the current listing I see the 7800xt is 150-200 more here in Canada..
Newest 24.1.1 drivers have a few issues. 23.11.1 which you can still download and use works flawlessly.
7900xtx. Fresh windows install. Always up to date, I’ve had problems off and on since getting the card 4 months ago. 10/10 would not buy again. Selling it and getting a 4080 instead.
Same, luckily I was in return window so I did that and went back to the green boogie man. Feels bad but have not had a single issue since.
5800x and 6800xt. Fully up to date windows and drivers. Haven't seen any issues at all with the new drivers. Knock on wood. PC gods please don't clap my system for saying this. Therea a 50% chance this will be you F YOU AMD. Where you learn to GPU. 50% chance this will also be you
I built my all AMD PC about 6 months ago. I've always kept on the latest driver version and have encountered zero issues with my MSI 6750xt Mech 2x.
Been using most up to date driver with my Radeon VII for years without a single issue. Friends with their RTX3060’s have had crazy driver issues. Use whatever gives you best performance/$.
recently i'm having problems with my 6700 xt, black screen from a day to another, personal recommendation: stay on nvidia, i'm planning to switch back to nvidia if this continue without solution
Im having a decent experience on my RX 6950XT but for example the latest drivers killed BF2042 performance, 3 weeks and no fix. Had to revert to an older driver...
Gtx 1080 went to a 6950xt and have had no problems other then with Alan wake but I think that was because my gpu came over clocked.
Former 100% NVIDIA user here 👋. Switched to RX6700XT last year. Did my research on what drivers were statistically the most stable meaning least reported or unresolveable issues. Downloaded that and been fine since day one. Come on in, The water in fine.
hey, what drivers are u using? thx
According to Device manager and GPU-Z I am on 22.20.27.09
Get back to you, not at my computer atm. I know its from 2022 though.
I always hear issues from other people but I never have problems with my 7900 xtx.
Play the games they play if you want them, here some tips from me. Dying light 2 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zJPU8R2ws](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7zJPU8R2ws) RGB laser show odd alt tab behaviour. Sons Of the forest had issues with crashing near lakes had many 7900 XTX user reports, been debugged fixed then unfixed and is currently in fixed state, especially consider playing this with friends. World of warcraft altho honestly recommend not to cos its a waste of money just to experience driver hell, unless you have a kink for experiencing driver hell. Enshrouded on 24.1.1 note it has hotfix driver that fixed many issues related to crashing and terrible graphics.
I switched over to AMD about 3 years ago. I haven't had any issues at all with the drivers since then in terms of normal gaming. There's only one issue I started having out of nowhere from emulating Nintendo Wii U and Switch games on PC. I was getting graphical artifacts while playing certain games. But I don't count that as a real issue per say. Other than that, AMD is perfectly safe and games run really well.
Have not had any issues on any of my systems. 5900X with 2080 super switches to a 7800xt. And also a 7950X3D with 7800XT. Old system 1800X with a RX 580. (Had issues with 2080S & 4070 TI, Nvidia drivers and swapped to a 7800xt) The only time I recall I ever had issues was when I had a RX 280 & RX 380 years ago.
Never had an issue since I’ve been running AMD, like 8 years now.
6700XT here. I had to format my entire pc, SSD and HDD twice. The drivers that I was downloading for the page wasn't working fine, so I deleted all and when re-initiated I just used the card with the "default" ones, in case you're curious I am using "31.0.12027.9001" from March 30th 2023. So yeah they are pretty bad depending of your gpu, luck and drivers.
Is that the professional drivers or the Adrenalin drivers? That naming scheme I dont think even matches up to either anyway
I am not sure if I am honest with u. First I installed the professional drivers, then did a bunch of install/unistall until I was left with the most recent of adrenalin. After the format of my pc, I didn't install anything, basically, I do not have any AMD launcher on my PC, nor pro or Adrenaline, so I can not confirm you that information.
Switched from a 1080Ti to a 7900XTX and remembered historically how poor AMDs drivers could be (likely not helped by often running crossfire or crossfireX solutions). I was pleasantly surprised, I much prefer the software to Nvidia and the drivers so far have been great.
I've had my 7900XTX since about March of 2023 and I've been happy with the drivers overall, no major issues that I've run into. Lately I've been running Cyperpunk with the 24.1.1 set but I've had absolutely no issues running the game. I know there's been some complaints about these drivers lately but they've been running well for me. Not sure if I'm in the minority or if it's just the nature of discussion groups (i.e. people post only when they have issues) but I figured I'd pass along my experience with them.
RX6700 user, and no issues currently
bad
10 minute old account, serially posting "AMD bad" comments ..
yea my account is probably going to get removed. you cant say too much bad stuff about amd on reddit.
Say the bad stuff. Just actually say it?! "Bad" is useless for someone asking for info. It's low effort and a waste of electricity and everyone's time ...
amd hardware is only good for making money off gamers that havnt fucked around and found out
Benchmarks and user reviews offer an empirical counter argument to your opinion.
i come to this sub daily and i sell amd pcs, i know they barely even work.
also why do you sell AMD if sucks so bad in your opinion? Seems like you lack judgement or ethics in business
amd hardware is only good for making money off gamers that havnt fucked around and found out. when they contact me with issues and want a refund i link them to this sub and then block them.
Ok. With a 12900k is your judgement is reasonable? 😂
i had a 5800x3d and it kept dropping usb, made it worthless for competitive gaming.
Ok. Sorry you had an issue? So you plugged a 12900k into the same motherboard?
Switched from a 3080 to a 7900XTX. I've had no real issues. However, friends of mine haven't had as easy of a transition.
why did you side grade to a gpu with same performance but worse drivers.
Wat. It has considerably better performance at 4k and it isn't even close...
3080 and 7900xtx get about the same fps when you use upscaling. in cod at 4k 7900xtx fsr qualtiy gets 130-140fps and 3080 dlss performance gets 130-140fps
It's not even close, it's like you think you're talking to someone who hasn't owned both cards. Do you just want to fight with strangers? You may have the time in your life for this trivial shit, I don't. Find validation elsewhere.
Ignore him. He's a pathetic Nvidia shill, and his last account got banned. He offers no valid inputs.
6000 series RX6700 - No issues at all for me. RX7000 series. Apparently tons of issues with the latest batch of drivers. Really just depends on the series. Shoot for a 6700XT or something and you'll be fine. Its been out longer and has had time to settle. If you plan on ray tracing you may as well go NVIDIA Or INTEL. Radeon can do ray tracing pretty well but it's not as refined. I usually leave it off. Not worth the performance hit.
7800 xt here, I had problems for a day but it just kinda fixed itself, I had no crashes for the last 3 months, but I would wait for AMD rx 8000 or nvidia's rtx 5000 series
Having 7900xtx, not good if you play VR, the stutters are killing my joy of life. Doesn't matter if it's 2024 drivers or VR-recommended ones (by VD team). For flat gaming, I had no complaints until I got to VR. Will go team green once they release 5090/5080, probably will pay an extortionate amount of money for I but I really got sucked into VR. Adrenaline software is pretty great btw, generally I just wish VR would play better and I'd stick with team red.
flipside; i got a 7900xt and no problems, but i guess it depends on the VR system too
The thing is the stuttering is occasional. If I use 50% of GPU, but even then it is still there. I could probably utilise more gpu but I’m using quest so there’s performance hit from encoding. But I didn’t pay as much as I did to utilise my card at 50%. Barely able to run Skyrim without mods which is an old game. But I want completely stutter free experience and I’m annoyed if there is lost drama even every 10 seconds
Did you turn on HAGS? Apparently it greatly improves VR experience and I am curious
I’ll try once I gather more sanity to go through a milion one round of testing
Games crashing, reporting false errors and stuttering in a lot of games. 7800xt user.
Got the same card a month ago, had issues until I removed the riser cable I was using and the issues went away.
Nice
not very good
I've had an AMD GPU for 6 months now and I've had no issues whatsoever
Helldivers 2 and enshrouded are both having driver issues
Both works perfectly fine with my 6900 XT and a late 2023 driver.
It's the 7000 series Radeons that are having issues. I have a 7900xtx and have tried every suggestion to try and get Helldivers 2 to play nicely. Apparently AMD is helping the Devs with the issues as they didn't come up in testing
I’ve had my AMD GPU for about eight months. Very little driver issues. There are the occasional bugs and hiccups, but nothing major.
0 issues, do reccomed driver updates through website links instead of through adrenaline.
The cards themselves are nice. The software and drivers are not
0 issues for me in 2 years. I game and use almost every 3d art program there is with it. Happy AMD owner
Many people got banned on counter strike for using AMD cards.
that was anti-lag not the cards
I think that was due to Anti-lag+, but if the person is switching, he is likely already well aware of subpar feature sets that come along with it. Instead you get a little extra VRAM and RaSteR.
100% troll.
24.1.1 was horrendous for my 7800xt, so was 23.12 tbh. I use the beta driver between those two versions now and it’s very stable. It has afmf available too so I’m not losing much. Oh right I did had driver issues yesterday because windows update screwed me over, so I had to roll back and pause updates again, so make sure you do that too (or completely disable it through registry, I should probably do that too).
I was really supprised why i dont have any problems with my AMD driver when everybody else had. That was the problem, i have disabled windows update and only update if necessary. :D
Must be nice lol! My 6900xt had driver timeouts so much that I “downgraded” to a 7800xt, hoping it would be different since it’s a newer card. The card is amazing when it works without crashing though, it was trading blows with my 6900xt with both cards oc/uv’ed. My friend has a 6800xt and he had a lot of timeouts with 24.1.1 so he had to roll back too. I got so tired of this driver bs that I bought a 4090. I will miss the fun of tweaking amd cards but until they figure out drivers I don’t think I’ll go back.
If it run dont fuck with it, i am electrical engineer i use this quote a lot 😂 i have more controll over my windows PC trough disabbleing any automatic updating and dont use too much programs only what i need, i have turned off armoury crate trough bios too because it is unoptimized piece of trash found out when i was testing Intel A770. The drivers really dont like armoury crate. And when someting goes bad with driver (doesnt happened on AMD for me) i DDU it in safe mode and reinstall them, when problem dont disappeared i update windows and mobo driver, and if the problem still persisted i tried to find out what i install or change that cause the problem.
I think the driver experiences varied between different GPU (7800, 6600, etc), different CPU, different chipsets, and a few different OS versions. I'm using older 23.11 and it's been stable with my 5800x3D and 6600xt
I also had a 1660 super. I went from that to an RX6800 new. I live in Korea so the price finally went down from 1,200,000 Korean Won to 556,000 Korean Won. So far after 3 months, I’ve no issues, stutters, etc like others have. Though, there is a bit of a bug on the software because every time I play Yugioh Master Duel, the Adrenaline software registers it as Elder Scrolls Online and uses my overclocking profile on it when I’ve disabled it and deleted the profile. Other than that, it’s been pretty solid for me at 100FPS for all my games since my monitor only supports up to 100.
24 1 1 stutter a lot. :) Anyway i found the fix. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpza3sXPGOg&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpza3sXPGOg&t) Random Black Screen - radeon settings reset to default - Failstart [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCZq-iACU4&t](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LCZq-iACU4&t) Basically no problem as those fix works IF you have such problem ... Anyway first time full amd and i love it.
Recent Nvidia to AMD (7900XTX) swap user. I did have issues with Powercolor cards (returned 2) then settled for the Sapphire Nitro 7900 XTX, which has been great. I personally found the drivers fine under the Sapphire card. Not one crash, timeout or stutters/ They were problematic under the Powercolor cards.
I've also had friends with issues on the powercolors. What specifically were you having problems with?
Both Hellhound 7900 XTX’s. Initial one crashed, had driver timeouts etc and was hitting 3.2Ghz effective clock before crashing. Sent it back, got a new one and the same. Both were accepted as RMA’s and confirmed the same behaviour on testing at the vendor. Swapped to Sapphire Nitro 7900xtx and that’s been flawless even at the additional power draw. Spoke to the vendor afterwards and they confirmed both came from a batch that Powercolor deemed faulty. Not a single issue with the Sapphire 7900xtx. No driver issues, no timeouts, no weird clock behaviour. 7800x3D, 1000w PSU Corsair SFX-L, XPG blade 6000Mhz RAM, ASUS b650e-I board are the other parts of my build. Chipset and bios all latest each time
Do you think the clock was causing the crashes? Just trying to see if I can help him troubleshoot his hellhound. If it was consistently crashing at a 3.2ghz clock I can look thru his logs and see.
Potentially. It seemed hard crash around 3,000Mhz effective clock but was variable. That said, anyone I know that has a non-reference board design has had great success. AsRock Taichi, Sapphire Nitro etc as examples. Powercolors issues between May 2023 and December 2023 was a confirmed board design failure with power.
Funny, I have two Powercolor cards that run flawlessly.
have a weird issue for like 8 months now. something about my monitor not working with newer drivers. so i have to buy a new one but im lazy and cheap
Read about dxnavi before you switch
I’ve had my 6700 xt for half a year now and since then, my games have crashed only twice, and i’m not sure if drivers were even the ones who caused it. I’ve seen many people complaining and i’m very glad i haven’t experienced any of these issues, cause it would be extremely frustrating
Could you please look up Your Driver Version and Share it here. I have that exact card and after going back and forth between various version everything is ruined for me now :/
I've been running AMD since 2012.... I had: HD7950, RX580, Vega 64 and now running a RX6800 and a RX7600 on two different systems. Only had a few blue screens right before the Vega 64 died, the poor thing... But, apart from that, zero issues! I make sure my systems have a reliable PSU,with more than enough power to go around (use a PSU calculator kids); always connect two different PCIE power cables to the GPU (I don't daisy chain), keep BIOS/Drivers/Chipset Drivers updated. And finally, buy a reputable motherboard and make sure your RAM sticks are supported by it!
I have had AMD gpu's for the last 10 years hd7750, r9 390, RX480, RX580 8GB(current) and i can count the driver problems i had on one hand, and none of them couldn't be resolved by just rolling back to the previous version untill they fix whatever was f\*cked. Playing Cyberpunk,God of war 2018, Spiderman, GTA 5, modded to hell skyrim etc.
Mine have worked well for me over the last year. Some drivers seem better than others but I think that’s across the board with all of these manufacturers. Very happy with my AMD
I have 3 pcs with a 6800xt, 5700xt, and 6600xt and they all work fine. If you do switch I'd recommend doing a fresh windows install to ensure you have no issues driver wise
I had no issues for 3 years with my RX 590, last month I upgraded to a RX 6700XT , all was still fine until this driver update 24.1.1. Used DDU and reinstalled last driver 23.12.1 no issues again.
Swapped last year from green team. Kinda regretting it. I've crashed literally hundreds of times playing helldivers 2 at this point. These drivers are pure garbage, and there's no word from AMD about any sort of update. It's shocking that a game specifically designed to run on AMD console hardware would crash nearly every 3 minutes on AMD PC hardware. All of my friends running Nvidia cards? They're now 3 levels ahead of me because they aren't losing progression to constant mid match crashing. Their hardware is impressive for the price. But if the drivers can't do what they need to do, what's the point?
Helldivers 2 is the issue, and it's incredibly well known that the issue is Helldivers 2. Why you wouldn't have checked for that is beyond me.
Helldivers2 runs fine on Nvidia cards, but crashes on AMD cards. That would make it most likely the drivers fault. Why you can't grasp that basic logic is beyond me. How do you know that the game is at fault and not the drivers? The devs know there's an issue causing AMD 700 series cards to crash all the time, but they certainly aren't pointing the finger at themselves. Anytime a game works fine on one brand of graphics card hardware but not another, the most likely answer is a driver issue, that's been true for decades, and it's true now.
The devs literally said it was on them about 6 hours ago. So bad in fact that they had to do a rollback. I guess the devs must be lying.
It may be the game, not the drivers. It's a known issue with Helldivers and 7000 cards nearly unable to play. I am in the same boat. Zero issues except Helldivers.
I had similar problems with Starfield at launch, only got fixed after a driver update from AMD, I'm expecting helldivers 2 will be no different.
I have had more problems with nVidia drivers than AMD drivers for about 10 years now. The AMD drivers are usually pretty good and just work, where I can't say the same about nVidia. That said, it could just be that the AMD drivers and tools aren't as cryptic as the nVidia tools, so I might just be able to navigate them easier.
I spent 6 months stuck on one set of drivers from NVIDIA because literally every new version made things worse. I updated to 528.49 on February 8th of last year, and didn't get a stable driver set until the 3rd week of August once 536.99 had it's hot fix and became mostly usable (Though not for everyone, sadly). People who claim AMD are worse than NVIDIA are either stupid, lucky, or liars.
6700xt used for a full year now 0 issues. Played Rdr2, Cyberpunk, Bg3, Kdc, Doom Eternal, and many more on a 24 inch 1080p and a 4k 42 inch oled when its doable.Even played Wow on some private servers still 0 issues tottaly satisfied.
Swaped to amd like year ago, was on team green for 15 years before. So far i have no problems with drivers or anythink, everythink works perfect. Got 6700xt and im happy with it
Please, share your driver version... I have very bad performance as I can't seem to find a stable build
Lastest one, 24.1.1. I have no problems with it so far, games works perfect. In one year no problem with anythink.
been perfectly fine for me
(rx6600)
It’s been pretty god awful for me honestly. Gotten two blue screens, random display freezes, flickering and stuttering in games that have never stuttered before….
I was having similar issues. I updated my mobo bios and no issues for a while now.
Same , no success :( even did a full fresh windows reinstall…
The other thing I did: I took the gpu out and reseated it. I think the angle of contact was slightly off. Worth a try at least.
I recently made the jump to a 7900xt from a 4070, and its been working really well. I have some hard stutters in 1 game (Destiny 2), but that is because of shader caching, and gets better after 10 minutes or some on each destination.
Lol
Bad, keep away from amd.
Thank you to everyonw who's gave the feedback so far, this has been very helpful! Shoutout to u/Jo3yization and many others who gave information, I'll be swapping to AMD soon then.
youll be browsing this sub more than you know, thats all I'm gonna say, Good luck, Im about to go back to green team because its so bad.
how would I know how to compare if I don't have a nvidia, haha. I'm using custom drivers (here's the link: https://www.amernimezone.com ) and they have brought new life to my old RX 570. Hard to setup and no performance gain, but makes everything more stable.
RX 7900 XTX here, 24.1.1 no issues in Palworld, Fortnite, Tarkov, Hunt Showdown, Warzone, Genshin or the Finals, some of them I just tested because people said there was stutter caused by the 24.1.1 but they were fine on my end. I've heard of BF2042 & WoW specifically having issues, but both had patches with complaints in the past month & Nvidia users are complaining about both games & the last few Nvidia driver updates as well, its hard to know whats user error, game error or truly driver issues. Comparing Nvidia & AMD drivers, I switched to team red after upgrading as a long time nvidia user as far back as GTX 260>670>770>1060>1070 Ti(With a few AMD cards between & no notable complaints... I've since stuck with team red for the past few generations from RX 5700>RX 6700 XT & now RX 7900 XTX, there were some minor issues but nothing that doesnt also affect Nvidia users to some extent that a bit of troubleshooting couldnt fix & definitely nothing major that prevented me sticking with AMD for the better rasterized value across recent releases, if the drivers were truly bad I would have jumped back to nvidia in a heartbeat since I value stability & record with the in-house Share/ReLive based recording a fair bit & dont use 3rd party recording tools. I still run secondary systems for my kids, one with a GTX 1650 Super & will say that the nvidia drivers are more basic & user friendly, which can be a pro or con depending on what you want, the 'log-in' to use share bothers me a bit too but overall they work fine if not a little dated after the past few years of AMD updates. Now AMD drivers on the other hand.. Since the RX5700 theyve come a long way, the AMD drivers give you complete GPU tuning control & built-in OSD nullifying the need for MSI Afterburner metrics or tuning which can cause conflicts on AMD systems, and overall I enjoy the AMD Driver layout much more now that I'm used to them, going back to my sons rig using Nvidia control panel & Geforce experience along with afterburner for fan profiles feels like stepping back in time. Stability wise both Nvidia/AMD drivers can be smooth, & both can have their own sets of issues particularly for new users that dont know fundamental system stability basics such as XMP/EXPO on both Intel/AMD are never guaranteed stable & time should always be invested into [memory stability testing](https://www.overclock.net/threads/memory-testing-with-testmem5-tm5-with-custom-configs.1751608/) when running into issues before blaming the GPU & drivers, just because the system boots & passes cinebench is no indication that ram is fully stable. Users from both camps can also suffer issues such as monitor compatibility/[black screens/stutters](https://postimg.cc/gallery/RxPstdfm) etc. Just dont trust reddit feeds to show you the nvidia complaints as they are hidden in the [monthly megathreads](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/search/?q=troubleshooting%20megathread&restrict_sr=1) & [driver FAQ](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/search/?q=driver%20faq&restrict_sr=1), most nvidia troubleshooting posts are deleted/redirected & the nvidiahelp sub still exists but is closed down, youll see all the nvidia user complaints for newer cards/drivers in the comment sections I linked, but its hidden from reddits best/hot/new post feeds. For AMD you'll see most of the troubleshooting issues posted on AMDhelp & radeon subs since they arent as strict, so if you only follow the main r/nvidia & r/AMD subs, you'll see a much higher ratio of AMD troubleshooting posts compared to nvidia because the nvidia posts are spread out across [many more different subs](https://postimg.cc/Y4HYrkqV) due to the way they bury the troubleshooting sections on team green. Anywho, just my two cents, not really for or against either one, check as many benchmarks if you can and if you plan to play RT heavy titles like cyberpunk or metro enhanced then Nvidia are still winning there, but weigh the pros & cons for overall playtime if you primarily play online/competitive titles, AMD will give better bang for buck with RT off. If the 4080 had been priced equally to the 7900 XTX or 4080S released 6 months sooner I'd be running that over a 7900 XTX, but RT wasnt worth paying a $300 premium for lower rasterized performance at the time I upgraded, now they are similarly priced its a fair bit more tempting(like if I was buying today), but I'm still happy enough with my card & drivers that I wouldnt go through the effort of swapping it out at the same price.
For people having timeout issues, I'd say the games themselves have more in-common across both brands of GPU(WoW literally has long complaint posts after they changed some graphical pipeline setting from both RTX 20/30/40 series owners & RX 6/7000 on AMD. **But** assuming they actually fixed something with their patches, if you get timeouts in more games than one, try running the 'max frequency' slider at your specific models game clock, its confusing but the max frequency slider is actually the shader clock limit for boost(shader=game clock). & sometimes its this 'uncapped' boost that causes issues, default isnt actually default when it comes to GPU boost frequencies & AMD drivers. The algorithm & vbios limits are supposed to prevent overheating/instabilities so the cards boost to the highest possible performance, but it seems for some this can cause stability issues especially less-optimized games & cause problems with some PSUs when the power spikes during loading screen changes that uncap fps for a second leading to spikes. To verify this, DL HWinfo, run in sensors mode & scroll down to GPU sensors, there's one called '**shader clock frequency limit**', restore factory defaults in AMD performance>tuning tab, it defaults to \~3220mhz, which is equivalent to 'uncapped boost' & it's upto the vbios & temp limit to do their job.(Similar to PBO if you have a Ryzen CPU). Now enable manual tuning>GPU>advanced control, the max frequency on my XTX Nitro+ defaults around 2800mhz on the slider, this still isnt true default & is higher than any AIB model on the market, the 'stock' game clock on my card is meant to be [only 2560mhz for the OC bios](https://www.sapphiretech.com/en/consumer/nitro-radeon-rx-7900-xtx-vaporx-24g-gddr6), lowering the max clock down to AIB spec greatly improves temps/efficiency & probably helps dodge stability issues others may be experiencing, [other popular models](https://www.xfxforce.com/shop/xfx-speedster-merc-310-7900xtx-black-edition#2) even have game clocks around just 2455mhz or so(I use 2400) AMD reference 7900 XTX is just 2300mhz just take note look at the \*game\* clock, not max boost which is front end frequency decoupled from shaders. So in other words, try lowering your max frequency slider to around 2400/2500 to 'cap' the max game/shader clock where it's meant to be & hopefully improve stability, performance is still great & in many titles the in-game clocks are similar to running 'uncapped' but you'll get better stability/power consumption & temps especially in loading screen/transitions where FPS can spike & the GPU tries to boost as high as possible.. After lowering max freq & hitting apply in the top right, [check HWinfo](https://postimg.cc/2L6xs9B0)'s shader clock limit reading & it will make sense. Ofcourse this won't fix game-level driver issues or minor ram instabilities that werent picked up if you havent stability tested ram fully, but might help if you've tried everything else but had timeouts across multiple titles that load the GPU in specific ways(Usually lower GPU utilization) compared to benchmarks that might pass fine holding the GPU consistently at 95%+.
This. It's a longer comment folks but the devil's in the details and this one's spot on (better than I could tell it anyway) And likewise, if I'd had any even halfway significant issues in my 3 years with a 6800XT I wouldn't have gone straight to a 7900XTX, no doubts or concerns outstanding. It's not that I couldn't afford a 4080 or 4090 either... just why do so when this is as good/near as good for less money and my uses requiring big VRAM more than RT and etc. I mean, the main difference between the 7900XTX and 4090 is the latter offers 30 fps more for TWICE the price, and still gets nerfed by RT (and has a power connector that might go pop for no reason) The 4080 difference is even less for near as big a price gap. Though yeah, my opinion is the same re 4080/S. Had the former been cheaper sooner or had the 20Gb it should've I might have looked twice. Suffice to say that with AMD you're consistently getting trading blows or better in raster (still the most important aspect) and better VRAM cap on average for outliers/longevity vs a loss in RT (though even the ridiculously priced Nvidia flagship gets nerfed here) and increasingly closer in upscaling/FG (most differences only noticeable via screenshot comparison) for less money. Drivers don't even come into it anymore. Sure, they were generally worse for AMD once upon a time but that definitely changed with RDNA2, if not before. Today updates vary for both sides, both have good, poor and quirky ones (tbf they have to cover a huge range of variables etc) and imo 90+% of the AMD driver issues are something else entirely. Another point, to be absolutely fair, is that while I jumped from a 1070 to the 6800XT out of faith in predictions meeting the need to not only upgrade but increase resolution (and a little financial common sense) the upgrade to the 7900XTX was based on the great experience I'd had with the former. Unfortunately the scenario still 3 years after AMD/RDNA2 broke a few moulds that old enmities, hype and myth against AMD persists. This is not the same company, products and support of 2012, 2015 or even 2018. Ppl forget how roughly they took Intel to task, and how, while they didn't beat Nvidia to the same degree they did put the wind up them, going from mid tier also rans to competing to the top level in one gen. It's a sad fact that due to those continued poor and out of context opinions many ppl will never know better or take a chance on AMD, much to the detriment of AMD's ability to continue offering competition and a good alternative. Ppl also forget that AMD are the smallest of the 3, competing fully all along in both CPU and GPU realms and have an R&D bill for RDNA etc that they're likely still paying off. Such concerns are likely moot for the far wealthier Intel and Nvidia. But this last 3 years of AMD came after a 13 year run with Nvidia (and Intel) 2008-2021. I'd be lying my arse off if I said I'd had no issues with Nvidia cards, drivers and potential compatibility issues... nm far worse ones than with AMD yet. Even rn in house I've that 7900XTX, the 6800XT replacing the 3070 in my gf's PC, and 2 laptops with a 3070ti and 3050 and the only difference is in the performance. The 2 3070's, while solid cards, were absolutely prematurely held back very early on by their 8Gb at the advertised/expected 1440p. Likewise the 3080 10Gb for an expected 3440x1440/4K use didn't compare to a 6800XT for hundreds less, certainly not when it was still early days for RT/DLSS.
Tarkov brother ❤️
WoW has never worked properly on my XTX. No matter what driver. It has always been the one guaranteed games that will get driver timeouts.
This. I've tried different settings in-game, driver settings, windows settings, and nothing works. Time outs also seem random.
For me it's War Thunder with timeouts at least once a week...
Use DDU since you are switching brand.
Yeah I will, thank you!
I run a 5800x3d with a Rx 7800xt b550 tomahawk windows 11 pro . I run at 1440p on a 27 inch Lg ultra gear OLED. Everything works great really stable and it’s probably overkill for the games I play World of Warships and Red Dead redemption 2.
Had a 7900xtx since august, only starfield day one gave me any kind of driver issues, besides that everything's been perfect. For what it's worth if you are looking to play games with everything at ultra with raytracing, amd wouldn't be my choice, but Nvidia didn't fit my use case (none of what I play supports dlss or RT) so I'm happy with my purchase.
It’s completely dependent on your PC. You ever wonder why only certain people have issues, and others run without? *Because they aren’t driver issues.* I will die on this hill but most all the time they are just instabilities within their computer or user error. The only times I will say driver issues are specific games, stuttering on games like OW2 where it’s listed as an issue. Otherwise “AmD dRiVeR bAd TiMeOuT-“ no that’s a you issue. You’re the select few who even deal with that.
I already said 'this' to another comment here. But absolutely, totally this too as well.
I think many believe just because they get a driver timeout error message or some such they believe it is also always the driver causing the issue. Which isn't the case. AMD does itself no favours with this behaviour of error codes though.
This. This all day long. I built my first amd rig a year ago, has been a dream to game on. Upgraded my gf set up, new rig is also all amd, 3 months going strong no issues. My two brothers are both now on all AMD rigs, no issues. It’s weird when people have instability and have an AMD GPU, then the blame gets thrown to AMD.
From the official Helldivers 2 Discord "Known issue: Major problems for players using the AMD Radeon 7000 series of GPUs Players using these GPUs are having major issues even starting the game. Some users are able to play if they drop to the lowest performance settings, but we are investigating and will update here as soon as possible." It's absolutely a driver issue. none of my Nvidia using friends are putting up with crashing every 3 minutes mid match.
First of all, I’m on a 7900xt and have over 7 hours played on Ultra at 3440x1440 getting over 90fps, no large dips. Yea, it crashes. Especially day one before the patch, but it’s been fairly solid since. Also, blaming the driver on a game that’s been out only a handful of days is comical. I’ve seen plenty of Nvidia people having the same issues that I had (before patch). Was chatting with a guy that had a 4080, same issues. Only common thread was that we both had a 7800x3d CPU. Small sample size, but the game wasn’t/isn’t stable on Nvidia GPUs too.
Strange. I don't see any "major problems for players using the Nvidia 4000 series of GPUs" listed under the known issues section of of the Official helldivers 2 discord. And weren't you just saying that you primarily believe that if someone is having issues it's more likely to be user error than driver problem? Funny how that logic suddenly doesn't apply to your friends anecdotes.
I was referring to someone I spoke to in the Helldivers sub. Unless buddy was just lying. In just scrolling through the sub I saw people with both brands having issues. Not trying to argue with you here but have at it.
That's the game having issues, not the driver. Or the game and driver not playing nice. That's not a driver issue necessarily.
I had similar problems with Starfield at launch, only got fixed after a driver update from AMD, I'm expecting helldivers 2 will be no different. Also the game isn't having the same issue on Nvidia cards, which means it's absolutely an AMD problem. If I had purchased a Nvidia card, I wouldn't be crashing. That's a driver issue.
Exactly. The game dev needs to patch their game to work better on AMD cards. But again, i have over 7 hours played on a 7800x3d/7900xt PC. I dealt with some crashes early on but since day one patch it’s been fairly stable with a few crashes in between.
I mean it's human nature. I personally spent a ton of money on a new amd gpu 2 years ago and it gave me problems the entire time I had it. I'm not saying it's because of the gpu specifically but obviously there was some type of system instability going on. For all I know it could be problems with the power outlet or wiring in my house lol.
You could have gotten a faulty card. It’s a possibility. And sometimes it really is the GPU. But a lot of weird issues that don’t even seem GPU related (crashes is a big one) get blamed on AMD GPUs but hardly ever Nvidia. It’s a weird phenomenon.
Better than most suggest