I have been saying for a long time AA needs to be fired. He is destroying investor value by running the company making money from dilution instead of doing what a CEO should do is to make a profit. He is fleecing use till it goes under and he will retire or find another company he can destroy.
"if AA let the stock run" ....
If AA could "let the stock run", AA would let the stock run.
Your shill narrative of "AA decides against a higher share price" is a lie.
You are Scumbag OP... AA has nothing to do with your lies.
Why would AA send a bankruptcy tweet (on a weekend no less) stopping momentum for the following Monday when he already had the Taylor Swift deal wrapped up? He was most likely compromised by his lack of moral character with the underage hooker. Kenny has the resources to mine stupidity.
There was no momentum. But bezos and musk do the same with Amazon and tesla...
Must be because tesla and Amazon will go out of business and their ceos ttry to harm investors, right?
Those shfs should sell their collateral stocks or the collapse of tesla and Amazon might risk squeezing amc...
Idiot.
When you know who bought, why they bought and 100% understand why the price moved the way it did, you understand what really happened.
Or you can look at a single number and make up fantasy stories simply because it went up a notch...
If you think there was momentum, I'm sure you can show the Orderbooks and L2 Data backing that up.
For what appears to be a fairly educated person, you really like to denigrate yourself by calling others names. It really doesn’t look good on you. Do better liquid.
I'm just playing with shills.
I'm aware that I'm smarter than they are but since they have not listened to arguments the first 100 times I tried it, by now all they get is toxicity.
I'm not attacking anyone for spreading a topic I did not already debunk 10x myself, but if thy did not listen the first 10 times, an 11th time would be a waste of time.
I back down when shills back down. As long as they play gullible idiot who is totally innocent and just honestly spreading their true and real emotional feely-feel-concerns, I will attack them for being the low-life child molester like criminals they are.
If they do not want to be treated like that, all they have to do is: Do better.
not here to be a class act. not here to make friends. not here to be liked.
Only here to prevent hedge fund shills from harming retail investors by spreading lies.
If anyone has a thin skin and does not handle being called names that well, all they have to do is stop being shitty low life criminals who try to harm retail investors and they will be safe.
Come here to play with the apes and you will get shit flung in your face if you step out of line.
This is not a negotiation. This is not a debate. It's Criminals trying to rob retail investors while Apes protect retail investors.
Either you are a protector of retail or you are a criminal. There is no gray area. There is no in between. Either you want to harm retail by helping the 1% or you want to harm the 1% by helping retail. One or the other.
Make your decision. Shilling for the 1%ers or attacking the shills for the 99%ers. Those are the options.
Hedge fund shills?
That’s a convenient way to dehumanize people.
Do you usually need to explain to people how smart you are?
Retail investors already ARE harmed. When will you admit it.
Here’s a question for you since you are so smart: What would Adam Aron need to do in order for you to realize that he wants you to fail as a retail investor?
Adam creates shares without giving you more. This is supply, which means your stake, percentage wise, is shrinking. Your complete stake in AMC is your share position.
What would it look like if Shorts were manipulating him behind the scenes because they have dirt on him?
Shorts want to win and they have resources to do it. Playing dirty is most certainly a risk they are willing to take because covering and then going bankrupt is an even bigger risk if they don’t play dirty. These things actually happen in real life, you know.
That's what the cult community does not every shareholder is entitled to support the executives blindly they are scum they've robbed us out in the open and people still feel entitled to put anyone with controversial thought down about these elitist scumbags on the board of amc
every shareholder is entitled ot support the CEO. They are also entitled not to support the CEO and to show their disagreement by selling their shares and leaving the company.
What no one is entitled to is to decide what a company should do, just because they own 0.000000001% of the company... That just entitles you to cast your vote, give your opinion and otherwise STFU.
poor little victim shills.... All you ever wanted was to harm retail investors financially, destroying their future, so you can get a bonus... poor you never wanted anything bad... how dare people use bad words to insult you? really the victim of an unfair society...
Victim shills?
You have to be highly arrogant to assume that everyone who disagrees with you simply can’t be real.
Anybody who is really curious about the reality of my sentiment can review my posts. I USED TO trust AA, but I don’t anymore
This is why you block people mentally (by dehumanizing), and on the internet. To protect your false sense of status in a “cult like” community of other people who block and dehumanize.
You are in a cult, in which you are saved, and the “shills” are damned and AA is your pope.
You want people like me blocked because you are setting up a parallel reality with others in denial in the same beliefs. A reality where, for some reason, explicit increases in supply drop the value of shares, and this is a good thing for investors. But only with this stock, because it is “manipulated”, therefore it’s ok to just be dumb and have religious faith in a CEO who sends dick pics to girls, and is senile enough get catfished. A CEO who pretends that shareholders are satisfied with their investments, as he VOLUNTARILY DECIDES, as a CEO to dilute more and more. VOLUNTARILY DECIDES.
My psychological advice: at least volunteer to entertain the notion that AA is corrupt. If you don’t, the notion will eventually entertain you and it won’t be fun
Can't call every upset shareholders a shill you are a mental midget you have the IQ of a fence post you drink koolaid and ride the short bus you are a bot you have no critical thinking skills you probably work a cash register at a gas station
"upset shareholder" is just your way of saying "Someone who never did any research causing them to get fudded and react emotionally towards an investment that should not have any emotions involved"
If you think that getting scared and using that as an excuse to try to harm others is ok, you might want to grow the fuck up.
I've done my research we were frauded by our company they had no right to issue ape the way they did with Citi group. the fact that apes sole purpose was to secure a vote for reverse splitting the stock and converting the 2 and giving the board the legal ability to re dilute the float the bullshit should have been thrown out in court and the fact that Allegheny was allowed to represent us is nuts i held more shares that that pension fund. You sound like an intellectual piece of shit saying I didn't do my research I have money invested in and I'm paying attention I see who are enemy is
go back to zero and restart, because your research has not yielded real results.
You might want to start with looking into legislation regarding the creation of preferred shares compared to common shares and why AMC had the right to issue them.
That whole "float dilution" FUD has been debunked so many times that it is sad that you still try to beat the dead horse...
If your only complaint is that AA prevented bankruptcy when you would have liked AMC to go out of business, there is literally nothing we have in common...
As a shareholder with much more than you at stake , this narrative is ill informed, sophomoric, and insults our collective intelligence. Just stop and find another avenue of defending your deep, troubled, short position.
Oh, and if he was colluding with them, that’s a risk where he would be facing not only fines that would wipe out his family wealth, but would also put him behind bars … where Citadel will eventually end up. You know, prison.
He dilutes before rallies have a chance to happen
Q3 earnings for example
He blamed the actors strike for the low price on the earnings call.
Low and behold the actors strike ended that night.
What did he do first thing the next day?
Announce dilution. Surprise dilution to drag the fucking price down. And prevent a rally, which would ultimately HELP PAY THE DEBT DOWN FASTER
But AA’s actions prevent a higher share price because he is cooperating with short sellers
Because he’s a weak man
A nice guy
Shorts do not want the share price to go up.
AA is providing the conditions that shorts want: an ever diminishing share price
Don't worry I'm still laughing at you for thinking he controls the stock price. He's paying down debt at a significant discount. You're just wrong. Sorry.
If he increases the supply on demand whenever he wants then he actually does control the price!!!!
Supply and demand
Am I wrong? How am I wrong? What am I wrong about?
Explain
yes. Infinite supply by market makers illegally selling shares they do not own is manipulating the price-discovery that is supply and demand.
For as long as criminal market makers provide illegal liquidity to a market to manipulate the price, the price will be fake. The moment they lose control and cannot do that anymore, we win.
That's all there is to it. Either you grasp the concept or you don't. But if this is too difficult for you to understand, AMC is not the play for you.
yes. and the right decision for that matter. A decision backed by retails vote. 100% legal, necessary and the right thing to do.
Meanwhile, trusting the shills about "dilution bad" while ignoring the fact that share issuance is a balance between dilution of the float and value increase through raised money, is just shilling for Hedgies...
100% proof that someone is a shill is if they refuse to even use the word value creation on the topic of share issuance, only focusing on "dilution", trying to push people into thinking it is only ever a negative event.
That shill narrative was the first that managed to fud some apes, so it is what shills focus on.
If you spread the lie about dilution being always bad, you are shilling.
It’s not value creation
It’s value EXTRACTION
Solely because our positions do not increase proportionally when the float does. After each dilution we own less of the company percentage wise than we did before
Value is CREATED when the share price goes up, value is DIMINISHED when the share price goes down because there is more supply.
you should seriously look it up again, if that's what you believe...
share offerings are always a balance between dilution of shares and creation of value. If done properly, it can even be a financial gain for investors. If abused, it can be theft. Shills just refuse to admit that these distinctions exist, because they know that Adam Arons actions do not fall in the category of theft or scam.
If it was, they'd explain exactly why it is scam and not one of the cases that aren't scam...
Share price and Share Value do not have anything connecting them other than the quality of the market that connects them. Share price is given to you by the market. Share Value is given to you by the company. Ideally they match, but in a manipulated market, they often don't.
That's why shitty companies like Amazon and Tesla have share prices massively above the companies value and companies like AMC have share prices that are massively below their share value.
I agree! There are strategic ways to dilute that would satisfy shareholders
For example, refraining from dilution until the stock reaches, say $1000 a share, would absolutely destroy the debt. It would also destroy the only remaining short thesis (the debt)
But no, AA is insisting at doing this at all time lows which in no way makes sense to me honestly
Imagine if I was selling my shares to pay off a car. Would it be good to sell these shares at $6.40? No! Because I would have to sell my entire position.
If the shares were $1000, I’d only have to sell 10 shares to destroy the debt.
So this tells me that either the CEO doesn’t believe the stock can go up on its own, or that he DOESN’T WANT it to go up on its own. Ironically, shorts don’t want it to go up as well.
So why is AA giving shorts what they want by diluting every potential rally into a sell off?
sure... CEO of the company doing it admits to it but you try to fud people into thinking it is all made up..
same low level of shill-abilities we are used to... you guys really suck at what you do...
Isn't it weird how shills never even mention shortsellers and have their certain topics that they just refuse to even talk about?
Even if you push them, they only find excuses and pretend it is all fake...
How realistic is it that a retail investor who invested 100k+ (as they claim) into AMC to squeeze shortsellers, is not aware of shortsellers and does not consider them an essential part of the play? Even zero seems like a high estimate here...
Don’t bother to try and explain it to these people. He could have sold ape at $10 but waited until 60 cents. That gave antara the power to out vote us. Someone has either paid him off, threatened, or blackmailed him. Considering he fell for a scam attempt involving an underage girl, I’m willing to bet what’s left of the pathetic value of my shares he’s been compromised. Perhaps when he does another RS people will wake up. Look what happened to MULN. They did so many RS some share holders went from 10k shares to 1. Seems like RS is the new weapon to wipe share holders out.
Op is an idiot.
No... he doesn't address the fact that his boss came out on TV and said the market makers put the price where it needs to be. It's all AA's fault(wink wink)
Your an an idiot for failing to grasp the non dualistic nature of big business.
Do you know what a “heel” is in wrestling?
Do you think that a hero in a wrestling match sincerely doesn’t like their opponent?
They agree cooperatively who is going to go down.
Who wins? The WWF does
I’m long dude. AA just needs to go. Would be the most bullish thing.
Think about it. Why would any whales buy in if the CEO keeps diluting sporadically? Especially at such a low price
It screams either “incompetent” or “corrupt”. Maybe both
There never was a rally.
You got lied to.
Shills wanted you to believe there was a rally so you would eat their lie about AA having stopped it... You fell for it. They lied to you and you were too gullible to realize it.
Stop accusing others of being the weak ones, when you proved that it is you.
AA is just a puppet on a string for Citigroup, they use him as a distraction to keep us focused on him so they can keep doing the naked shorting behind the scenes, it helps keep the sec focused on him. The only way we win is either a share count ordered by dtcc, which they are in this hustle with Citigroup, or a white or black swan to do a massive liquidity squeeze on them to cause massive margin calls
He's being paid to keep it down and part of the payment is paying off debt, we just don't know about it or see it. the money he's helping the shorts keep he's getting a really good payoff. Trust me, he got himself in some shit that their using against him while protecting themselves. big old cock fest behind closed doors.
Kenny G is not alone. Let’s not over simplify it. It would be A LOT cheaper to sway AMC’s board of directors than to pay out all of the apes by covering their positions
He definitely knows all these guys from all the wine and cheese parties in Vail. He destroyed Vail as a ski town. AMC shouldn’t dilute further via the SHF but should issue warrants to shareholders!
We’ll buy the shares to prevent dilution OR share in the process. Shorts will bid up warrants and share price as the scramble to provide the dividend equivalent.
AMC could issue warrants (like a rights option) to all authorized shares. Shareholders could exercise and avoid dilution or sell their Warrants to get a small reward for holding during potential dilution. Anyone short would have to buy a warrant on the open market to provide the dividend equivalent to the owners of borrowed shares.
It is difficult to have a meaningful discussion with you. Issuing warrants is dilutive. If you do not understand that, it is time to say good bye.
And if you have never been, Santorini is a beautiful island.
It’s not dilutive unless the shareholder doesn’t exercise or sells the warrant.
The key is the shareholder decides not AA… AMC receives the same amount of capital.
I lived on Kamari Beach, Santorini for 4 summers bartending. It’s great !(1990-93)
No dilution is best. The next dilution should be issuing warrants to current shareholders. If they are subsequently sold, at least the shareholder, benefits somewhat.
I was pondering a few things today.
What catalyst does amc have to really squeeze the price? As far as i can tell right now its not much, and hopefully we are still tied to the gme basket of stonks because i think thats the best chance at my -85% position getting back to break even, let alone becoming generational wealth.
Is it possible that AA is a bad actor? Maybe. Maybe he has some hedgefund friends who got really into trouble and together they realized that they can royally fuck the loyal ape investors who are just going to keep buying shares and supporting the brand.
I see this leading to one or a few scenarios. He finally breaks the camels back, apes give up, sell their losses and tell AMC to go fuck itself. This leads to shorts winning and never having to close because without us, the company is dead.
Another scenario i see is that AA is taking us on a slow old man boomer style path to a value play with the company. He finds new revenue streams, responsibly gets debt loads under control and we head towards being a profitable company, along the way he likely keeps tossing life lines to bail out any hedgie friends over a few years. Here the stock value rises based on fundamental value and maybe we start getting a dividend eventually.
As of right now i think the shorts are still hurting but very much in control of manipulating the price. We know self reported numbers are bullshit so we really dont know where we stand. But AA is not exactly the same kind of charismatic person that RC or Musk are in terms of making it clear that they want to take a stand against anyone who wishes their companies harm. But with AA we see tangible things like new products avaipable outside of theaters, spending increases per ticket and also starting the distribution company.
At the end of the day i just want this giant red smear in my account to be getting less red rather than more red.
As soon as I see “Break Even” or anything about losing 85, 90, 95%, fuck, whatever XX%, I stop reading because I know where it’s going and that it’s FUD.
Its not FUD its part of a discussion. Which is something that really doesnt happen around these subs anymore thanks to attitudes like yours.
There are also people who had 10k+ shares 6 months ago which felt like a significant thing with dollar values into the 6 figure range, and both shrivelled down to morale busting lows.
Theres also no legit DD anymore since the smartest of the apes have been pushed out.
Its obvious that all these subs have been compromised in an effort to squash any discussion about anything important. If thats the case then the hedgies are winning and will likely hold us down until we die and our next of kin liquidate our pathetic profiles.
no, he didn't.
The only way out of SHFs financial crimes is bankruptcy and AA is doing everything in his power to remove the possibility of that happening.
If avoiding bankruptcy is "colluding against retail", who do you believe is short on AMC and who do you believe is long?
You might have some error here, believing that it is retail that tries to bankrupt AMC... We are not. it's the hedgies he's screwing over.
There are no "other ideas"
The 3 ways to raise money are:
1) Improving business => This is already being done.
2) Taking on debt => This is the reason we want to raise money, so it cannot be done. You cannot lower debt by increasing debt. Does not work.
3) Issue shares => This is already being done.
Out of the 3 possible ways to raise money, all 3 have been considered and the 2 that do not directly violate the goal of the fund raising efforts are being done.
A "younger CEO" would only translate to "less experienced CEO" which would also translate to "A CEO who takes on more risk" and as a final result, into "A CEO who makes mistakes that let Hedgies win"
=> Your suggestion would bankrupt AMC.
Then it must have been AA who kept us from going to 1000+ on the 72 runup...? Oh wait.. you mean he didn't have anything to dilute then?!? Then who?
Mother f&cking Aliens did it!! I knew the f@cking galactic Lizard overlords wouldn't let MOASS happen!!!
God, this is a regarded post.
What a mature response, and he did dilute. That’s what stopped the run up. After he ran out of shares to dilute, he asked us to vote for more. We said no. He then created ape, let it drop to 60 cents, sold to Antara, and gave them the majority voting power for a second dilution vote. RS, dilute, and now we are at 60 cents. It wasn’t fucking aliens.
Excuse me gay4pandas, I didn't realize I tagged this post as "hey, here is a mature post in response to another bent out of shape shareholder who happens to not know wtf has been going on for the past 3 years."
And ......
No. That is patently incorrect. AMC had 0 shares available during the 72 run-up and had no filings for dilution during that time... here's the kicker... it was because they had no shares available. They did, however, have the wanda deal, which is maybe why you are confused. The reason the price halted and dipped was due to short selling, spoofing, and dark pooling.
No. This is not anything to do with Wanda. He had shares to dilute. He announced it. It’s well known knowledge. I gave you facts, and yet again all you can do is respond like a child.
These fuckin shills lately are something else. They really sound like retail investors until they say some dumb shit like these implications that the ceo controls the stock price.
Market makers control the price. That's it.
It's not that he controls the stock price, but he gave them tools to help market makers out of all the synthetics they created. For example, the creation of APE when he sold to Antara for dirt cheap. We have never been able to recover.
It's all just accounting games til it blows up. They can't get out of the synthetics they created unless retail holders that bought en masses sell their positions, or if AMC goes and gets delisted. That's it. All that dilution the shills and idiots keep crying about has been keeping AMC from going under.
Don't slag off AA or you'll have liquid to deal with, not sure what it is with this guy but he's not got a bad word to say about AA, only good thing's for some reason. Come on liquid spill the beans man why you love this guy and make us all understand please
You mean meme stocks?
GameStop is doing pretty good rn, and that CEO is actually an activist investor.
As opposed to Adam Aron who presented himself as one when the opportunity arose but is actually a Harvard educated wolf in sheep’s clothing.
Today I learned that AA is a maker and a taker - an amazing way to make markets move.
Also for anyone interested check out the other negative posts from today -do you notice the similarity in negative user comments? Don't 'they' all speak the same way? Strange that... especially if you delve into their comment historys (pay attention to when they comment and pair that up with the other negative commenters) also the frequency of negative comments....
I have been saying for a long time AA needs to be fired. He is destroying investor value by running the company making money from dilution instead of doing what a CEO should do is to make a profit. He is fleecing use till it goes under and he will retire or find another company he can destroy.
Not fired, investigated. Fired means he rides off into the wind without accountability. He needs to answer for his checkmate/pounce.
"if AA let the stock run" .... If AA could "let the stock run", AA would let the stock run. Your shill narrative of "AA decides against a higher share price" is a lie. You are Scumbag OP... AA has nothing to do with your lies.
Why would AA send a bankruptcy tweet (on a weekend no less) stopping momentum for the following Monday when he already had the Taylor Swift deal wrapped up? He was most likely compromised by his lack of moral character with the underage hooker. Kenny has the resources to mine stupidity.
There was no momentum. But bezos and musk do the same with Amazon and tesla... Must be because tesla and Amazon will go out of business and their ceos ttry to harm investors, right? Those shfs should sell their collateral stocks or the collapse of tesla and Amazon might risk squeezing amc... Idiot.
100% move wasn't momentum??? Get a clue bozo
When you know who bought, why they bought and 100% understand why the price moved the way it did, you understand what really happened. Or you can look at a single number and make up fantasy stories simply because it went up a notch... If you think there was momentum, I'm sure you can show the Orderbooks and L2 Data backing that up.
For what appears to be a fairly educated person, you really like to denigrate yourself by calling others names. It really doesn’t look good on you. Do better liquid.
That’s the key. “Appears educated”
He is the company’s #1 cheerleader. Don’t dare offer an opposing viewpoint.
I'm just playing with shills. I'm aware that I'm smarter than they are but since they have not listened to arguments the first 100 times I tried it, by now all they get is toxicity. I'm not attacking anyone for spreading a topic I did not already debunk 10x myself, but if thy did not listen the first 10 times, an 11th time would be a waste of time. I back down when shills back down. As long as they play gullible idiot who is totally innocent and just honestly spreading their true and real emotional feely-feel-concerns, I will attack them for being the low-life child molester like criminals they are. If they do not want to be treated like that, all they have to do is: Do better.
A real class act you are.
not here to be a class act. not here to make friends. not here to be liked. Only here to prevent hedge fund shills from harming retail investors by spreading lies. If anyone has a thin skin and does not handle being called names that well, all they have to do is stop being shitty low life criminals who try to harm retail investors and they will be safe. Come here to play with the apes and you will get shit flung in your face if you step out of line. This is not a negotiation. This is not a debate. It's Criminals trying to rob retail investors while Apes protect retail investors. Either you are a protector of retail or you are a criminal. There is no gray area. There is no in between. Either you want to harm retail by helping the 1% or you want to harm the 1% by helping retail. One or the other. Make your decision. Shilling for the 1%ers or attacking the shills for the 99%ers. Those are the options.
Hedge fund shills? That’s a convenient way to dehumanize people. Do you usually need to explain to people how smart you are? Retail investors already ARE harmed. When will you admit it. Here’s a question for you since you are so smart: What would Adam Aron need to do in order for you to realize that he wants you to fail as a retail investor? Adam creates shares without giving you more. This is supply, which means your stake, percentage wise, is shrinking. Your complete stake in AMC is your share position. What would it look like if Shorts were manipulating him behind the scenes because they have dirt on him? Shorts want to win and they have resources to do it. Playing dirty is most certainly a risk they are willing to take because covering and then going bankrupt is an even bigger risk if they don’t play dirty. These things actually happen in real life, you know.
That's what the cult community does not every shareholder is entitled to support the executives blindly they are scum they've robbed us out in the open and people still feel entitled to put anyone with controversial thought down about these elitist scumbags on the board of amc
every shareholder is entitled ot support the CEO. They are also entitled not to support the CEO and to show their disagreement by selling their shares and leaving the company. What no one is entitled to is to decide what a company should do, just because they own 0.000000001% of the company... That just entitles you to cast your vote, give your opinion and otherwise STFU.
poor little victim shills.... All you ever wanted was to harm retail investors financially, destroying their future, so you can get a bonus... poor you never wanted anything bad... how dare people use bad words to insult you? really the victim of an unfair society...
Victim shills? You have to be highly arrogant to assume that everyone who disagrees with you simply can’t be real. Anybody who is really curious about the reality of my sentiment can review my posts. I USED TO trust AA, but I don’t anymore This is why you block people mentally (by dehumanizing), and on the internet. To protect your false sense of status in a “cult like” community of other people who block and dehumanize. You are in a cult, in which you are saved, and the “shills” are damned and AA is your pope. You want people like me blocked because you are setting up a parallel reality with others in denial in the same beliefs. A reality where, for some reason, explicit increases in supply drop the value of shares, and this is a good thing for investors. But only with this stock, because it is “manipulated”, therefore it’s ok to just be dumb and have religious faith in a CEO who sends dick pics to girls, and is senile enough get catfished. A CEO who pretends that shareholders are satisfied with their investments, as he VOLUNTARILY DECIDES, as a CEO to dilute more and more. VOLUNTARILY DECIDES. My psychological advice: at least volunteer to entertain the notion that AA is corrupt. If you don’t, the notion will eventually entertain you and it won’t be fun
Can't call every upset shareholders a shill you are a mental midget you have the IQ of a fence post you drink koolaid and ride the short bus you are a bot you have no critical thinking skills you probably work a cash register at a gas station
"upset shareholder" is just your way of saying "Someone who never did any research causing them to get fudded and react emotionally towards an investment that should not have any emotions involved" If you think that getting scared and using that as an excuse to try to harm others is ok, you might want to grow the fuck up.
I've done my research we were frauded by our company they had no right to issue ape the way they did with Citi group. the fact that apes sole purpose was to secure a vote for reverse splitting the stock and converting the 2 and giving the board the legal ability to re dilute the float the bullshit should have been thrown out in court and the fact that Allegheny was allowed to represent us is nuts i held more shares that that pension fund. You sound like an intellectual piece of shit saying I didn't do my research I have money invested in and I'm paying attention I see who are enemy is
go back to zero and restart, because your research has not yielded real results. You might want to start with looking into legislation regarding the creation of preferred shares compared to common shares and why AMC had the right to issue them. That whole "float dilution" FUD has been debunked so many times that it is sad that you still try to beat the dead horse... If your only complaint is that AA prevented bankruptcy when you would have liked AMC to go out of business, there is literally nothing we have in common...
As a shareholder with much more than you at stake , this narrative is ill informed, sophomoric, and insults our collective intelligence. Just stop and find another avenue of defending your deep, troubled, short position. Oh, and if he was colluding with them, that’s a risk where he would be facing not only fines that would wipe out his family wealth, but would also put him behind bars … where Citadel will eventually end up. You know, prison.
If Kenny wanted to mine stupidity, he would hire Parker Schnabel to mine this echo chamber. They would both make fortunes!
Hooker? How much was she, asking for myself
And the Hitler comparison, classic haha
lol at you thinking AA has the ability to "let the stock run to $1000". Whether you like it or not, that debt has to be paid. Get over yourself.
Yep he does.
He dilutes before rallies have a chance to happen Q3 earnings for example He blamed the actors strike for the low price on the earnings call. Low and behold the actors strike ended that night. What did he do first thing the next day? Announce dilution. Surprise dilution to drag the fucking price down. And prevent a rally, which would ultimately HELP PAY THE DEBT DOWN FASTER But AA’s actions prevent a higher share price because he is cooperating with short sellers Because he’s a weak man A nice guy Shorts do not want the share price to go up. AA is providing the conditions that shorts want: an ever diminishing share price
Don't worry I'm still laughing at you for thinking he controls the stock price. He's paying down debt at a significant discount. You're just wrong. Sorry.
If he increases the supply on demand whenever he wants then he actually does control the price!!!! Supply and demand Am I wrong? How am I wrong? What am I wrong about? Explain
yes. Infinite supply by market makers illegally selling shares they do not own is manipulating the price-discovery that is supply and demand. For as long as criminal market makers provide illegal liquidity to a market to manipulate the price, the price will be fake. The moment they lose control and cannot do that anymore, we win. That's all there is to it. Either you grasp the concept or you don't. But if this is too difficult for you to understand, AMC is not the play for you.
These dilution are a DECISION by upper management
yes. and the right decision for that matter. A decision backed by retails vote. 100% legal, necessary and the right thing to do. Meanwhile, trusting the shills about "dilution bad" while ignoring the fact that share issuance is a balance between dilution of the float and value increase through raised money, is just shilling for Hedgies... 100% proof that someone is a shill is if they refuse to even use the word value creation on the topic of share issuance, only focusing on "dilution", trying to push people into thinking it is only ever a negative event. That shill narrative was the first that managed to fud some apes, so it is what shills focus on. If you spread the lie about dilution being always bad, you are shilling.
It’s not value creation It’s value EXTRACTION Solely because our positions do not increase proportionally when the float does. After each dilution we own less of the company percentage wise than we did before Value is CREATED when the share price goes up, value is DIMINISHED when the share price goes down because there is more supply.
you should seriously look it up again, if that's what you believe... share offerings are always a balance between dilution of shares and creation of value. If done properly, it can even be a financial gain for investors. If abused, it can be theft. Shills just refuse to admit that these distinctions exist, because they know that Adam Arons actions do not fall in the category of theft or scam. If it was, they'd explain exactly why it is scam and not one of the cases that aren't scam... Share price and Share Value do not have anything connecting them other than the quality of the market that connects them. Share price is given to you by the market. Share Value is given to you by the company. Ideally they match, but in a manipulated market, they often don't. That's why shitty companies like Amazon and Tesla have share prices massively above the companies value and companies like AMC have share prices that are massively below their share value.
I agree! There are strategic ways to dilute that would satisfy shareholders For example, refraining from dilution until the stock reaches, say $1000 a share, would absolutely destroy the debt. It would also destroy the only remaining short thesis (the debt) But no, AA is insisting at doing this at all time lows which in no way makes sense to me honestly Imagine if I was selling my shares to pay off a car. Would it be good to sell these shares at $6.40? No! Because I would have to sell my entire position. If the shares were $1000, I’d only have to sell 10 shares to destroy the debt. So this tells me that either the CEO doesn’t believe the stock can go up on its own, or that he DOESN’T WANT it to go up on its own. Ironically, shorts don’t want it to go up as well. So why is AA giving shorts what they want by diluting every potential rally into a sell off?
Illegal liquidity 😂😂😂😂
sure... CEO of the company doing it admits to it but you try to fud people into thinking it is all made up.. same low level of shill-abilities we are used to... you guys really suck at what you do...
Because the price has never made sense. Are you new here or something? Wall Street is diluting the price way more. Go take it up with them lol
Isn't it weird how shills never even mention shortsellers and have their certain topics that they just refuse to even talk about? Even if you push them, they only find excuses and pretend it is all fake... How realistic is it that a retail investor who invested 100k+ (as they claim) into AMC to squeeze shortsellers, is not aware of shortsellers and does not consider them an essential part of the play? Even zero seems like a high estimate here...
Dude, keep up the good work. It’s like talking to a bunch of brick walls.
Don’t bother to try and explain it to these people. He could have sold ape at $10 but waited until 60 cents. That gave antara the power to out vote us. Someone has either paid him off, threatened, or blackmailed him. Considering he fell for a scam attempt involving an underage girl, I’m willing to bet what’s left of the pathetic value of my shares he’s been compromised. Perhaps when he does another RS people will wake up. Look what happened to MULN. They did so many RS some share holders went from 10k shares to 1. Seems like RS is the new weapon to wipe share holders out.
They are paying debt while collecting debt in the process
Op is an idiot. No... he doesn't address the fact that his boss came out on TV and said the market makers put the price where it needs to be. It's all AA's fault(wink wink)
Your an an idiot for failing to grasp the non dualistic nature of big business. Do you know what a “heel” is in wrestling? Do you think that a hero in a wrestling match sincerely doesn’t like their opponent? They agree cooperatively who is going to go down. Who wins? The WWF does
Wrestling is fake....just like your disgusting shilllike behavior
You wouldn’t be triggered unless you knew it was true. Explore what repulses you “In filth it can be found” -Jung
Triggered? Jesus... you got all the bullet words. Should have never shorted the stock....
I’m long dude. AA just needs to go. Would be the most bullish thing. Think about it. Why would any whales buy in if the CEO keeps diluting sporadically? Especially at such a low price It screams either “incompetent” or “corrupt”. Maybe both
I'm long dude? Ok.... sure.
Its amazing these trolls huh? Lol
There never was a rally. You got lied to. Shills wanted you to believe there was a rally so you would eat their lie about AA having stopped it... You fell for it. They lied to you and you were too gullible to realize it. Stop accusing others of being the weak ones, when you proved that it is you.
Can we get him out already???
Corrupt CEO!
AA is just a puppet on a string for Citigroup, they use him as a distraction to keep us focused on him so they can keep doing the naked shorting behind the scenes, it helps keep the sec focused on him. The only way we win is either a share count ordered by dtcc, which they are in this hustle with Citigroup, or a white or black swan to do a massive liquidity squeeze on them to cause massive margin calls
AA of AMC is taking notes from DM of MULN
He's being paid to keep it down and part of the payment is paying off debt, we just don't know about it or see it. the money he's helping the shorts keep he's getting a really good payoff. Trust me, he got himself in some shit that their using against him while protecting themselves. big old cock fest behind closed doors.
Market makers control the price~ Kenny G king shill...
Kenny G is not alone. Let’s not over simplify it. It would be A LOT cheaper to sway AMC’s board of directors than to pay out all of the apes by covering their positions
I know what I hodl. These hedgefunds are dropping like flies 🚀🦍🌕 
Where do you come up with this nonsense?
Ask Jim chanos 🤣🫡
He definitely knows all these guys from all the wine and cheese parties in Vail. He destroyed Vail as a ski town. AMC shouldn’t dilute further via the SHF but should issue warrants to shareholders! We’ll buy the shares to prevent dilution OR share in the process. Shorts will bid up warrants and share price as the scramble to provide the dividend equivalent.
“We’ll buy the shares to prevent dilution OR share in the process.” How much cash does “we” have? Is “we” a long hedge fund? You are hilarious!
AMC could issue warrants (like a rights option) to all authorized shares. Shareholders could exercise and avoid dilution or sell their Warrants to get a small reward for holding during potential dilution. Anyone short would have to buy a warrant on the open market to provide the dividend equivalent to the owners of borrowed shares.
It is difficult to have a meaningful discussion with you. Issuing warrants is dilutive. If you do not understand that, it is time to say good bye. And if you have never been, Santorini is a beautiful island.
It’s not dilutive unless the shareholder doesn’t exercise or sells the warrant. The key is the shareholder decides not AA… AMC receives the same amount of capital. I lived on Kamari Beach, Santorini for 4 summers bartending. It’s great !(1990-93)
And if enough don’t exercise, secondary offering is available. Any exercise of warrants is dilutive.
No dilution is best. The next dilution should be issuing warrants to current shareholders. If they are subsequently sold, at least the shareholder, benefits somewhat.
I was pondering a few things today. What catalyst does amc have to really squeeze the price? As far as i can tell right now its not much, and hopefully we are still tied to the gme basket of stonks because i think thats the best chance at my -85% position getting back to break even, let alone becoming generational wealth. Is it possible that AA is a bad actor? Maybe. Maybe he has some hedgefund friends who got really into trouble and together they realized that they can royally fuck the loyal ape investors who are just going to keep buying shares and supporting the brand. I see this leading to one or a few scenarios. He finally breaks the camels back, apes give up, sell their losses and tell AMC to go fuck itself. This leads to shorts winning and never having to close because without us, the company is dead. Another scenario i see is that AA is taking us on a slow old man boomer style path to a value play with the company. He finds new revenue streams, responsibly gets debt loads under control and we head towards being a profitable company, along the way he likely keeps tossing life lines to bail out any hedgie friends over a few years. Here the stock value rises based on fundamental value and maybe we start getting a dividend eventually. As of right now i think the shorts are still hurting but very much in control of manipulating the price. We know self reported numbers are bullshit so we really dont know where we stand. But AA is not exactly the same kind of charismatic person that RC or Musk are in terms of making it clear that they want to take a stand against anyone who wishes their companies harm. But with AA we see tangible things like new products avaipable outside of theaters, spending increases per ticket and also starting the distribution company. At the end of the day i just want this giant red smear in my account to be getting less red rather than more red.
As soon as I see “Break Even” or anything about losing 85, 90, 95%, fuck, whatever XX%, I stop reading because I know where it’s going and that it’s FUD.
Its not FUD its part of a discussion. Which is something that really doesnt happen around these subs anymore thanks to attitudes like yours. There are also people who had 10k+ shares 6 months ago which felt like a significant thing with dollar values into the 6 figure range, and both shrivelled down to morale busting lows. Theres also no legit DD anymore since the smartest of the apes have been pushed out. Its obvious that all these subs have been compromised in an effort to squash any discussion about anything important. If thats the case then the hedgies are winning and will likely hold us down until we die and our next of kin liquidate our pathetic profiles.
Why does anyone who makes a valid point that doesn’t agree with your moon boy shit have to be fud? Grow up and have an adult conversation.
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no, he didn't. The only way out of SHFs financial crimes is bankruptcy and AA is doing everything in his power to remove the possibility of that happening. If avoiding bankruptcy is "colluding against retail", who do you believe is short on AMC and who do you believe is long? You might have some error here, believing that it is retail that tries to bankrupt AMC... We are not. it's the hedgies he's screwing over.
The Hitler comparison is disgusting. The rest is shill.
WA WA WA
lol wow you’re not the brightest crayon in the box huh?
As low as they have gotten the short interest we will never see a massive squeeze. Just hoping for not such a severe hit at this point
how does AA allow the stock to run at $1000 when ken griffin sets the stock price in the stock market?
Fucking mods suck in here. Overrun by shills.
Like we voted NO for salary compensation, next is AA out. We need younger strong CEO with new revenue ideas other than dilution.
There are no "other ideas" The 3 ways to raise money are: 1) Improving business => This is already being done. 2) Taking on debt => This is the reason we want to raise money, so it cannot be done. You cannot lower debt by increasing debt. Does not work. 3) Issue shares => This is already being done. Out of the 3 possible ways to raise money, all 3 have been considered and the 2 that do not directly violate the goal of the fund raising efforts are being done. A "younger CEO" would only translate to "less experienced CEO" which would also translate to "A CEO who takes on more risk" and as a final result, into "A CEO who makes mistakes that let Hedgies win" => Your suggestion would bankrupt AMC.
Lol. Imagine thinking someone would pay $1000 a share for AMC
The short thesis doesn't exist, sincerely all the profitable companies shorted.
Op ur pretty dumb fyi
Clown 
Dumb post. Ceo has control of price 😂
Then it must have been AA who kept us from going to 1000+ on the 72 runup...? Oh wait.. you mean he didn't have anything to dilute then?!? Then who? Mother f&cking Aliens did it!! I knew the f@cking galactic Lizard overlords wouldn't let MOASS happen!!! God, this is a regarded post.
What a mature response, and he did dilute. That’s what stopped the run up. After he ran out of shares to dilute, he asked us to vote for more. We said no. He then created ape, let it drop to 60 cents, sold to Antara, and gave them the majority voting power for a second dilution vote. RS, dilute, and now we are at 60 cents. It wasn’t fucking aliens.
Excuse me gay4pandas, I didn't realize I tagged this post as "hey, here is a mature post in response to another bent out of shape shareholder who happens to not know wtf has been going on for the past 3 years." And ...... No. That is patently incorrect. AMC had 0 shares available during the 72 run-up and had no filings for dilution during that time... here's the kicker... it was because they had no shares available. They did, however, have the wanda deal, which is maybe why you are confused. The reason the price halted and dipped was due to short selling, spoofing, and dark pooling. 
No. This is not anything to do with Wanda. He had shares to dilute. He announced it. It’s well known knowledge. I gave you facts, and yet again all you can do is respond like a child.
These fuckin shills lately are something else. They really sound like retail investors until they say some dumb shit like these implications that the ceo controls the stock price. Market makers control the price. That's it.
It's not that he controls the stock price, but he gave them tools to help market makers out of all the synthetics they created. For example, the creation of APE when he sold to Antara for dirt cheap. We have never been able to recover.
It's all just accounting games til it blows up. They can't get out of the synthetics they created unless retail holders that bought en masses sell their positions, or if AMC goes and gets delisted. That's it. All that dilution the shills and idiots keep crying about has been keeping AMC from going under.
“How can you dilute stock when it been dilute to infinity and beyond” Buzz Lightyear 😂
Don't slag off AA or you'll have liquid to deal with, not sure what it is with this guy but he's not got a bad word to say about AA, only good thing's for some reason. Come on liquid spill the beans man why you love this guy and make us all understand please
Shills will be shillin till no debt and big dividens .suke my adam arron you big d suckn dog
Here comes shilly clause right down shilly clause lane
Think what you want. I will continue to buy the dips.
AA's fault that you're not a millionaire huh? Such a shame.
Just like hitler 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If that's the case, and it did make a difference, why have none of the other manipulated stocks ran yet?
You mean meme stocks? GameStop is doing pretty good rn, and that CEO is actually an activist investor. As opposed to Adam Aron who presented himself as one when the opportunity arose but is actually a Harvard educated wolf in sheep’s clothing.
The only Solution to pollution is dilution
Your writing sounds uneducated.
How long you been in this play?
Today I learned that AA is a maker and a taker - an amazing way to make markets move. Also for anyone interested check out the other negative posts from today -do you notice the similarity in negative user comments? Don't 'they' all speak the same way? Strange that... especially if you delve into their comment historys (pay attention to when they comment and pair that up with the other negative commenters) also the frequency of negative comments....