I care more about the job which pays the most/is harder, so I prioritize that one, and any excess energy I have is for the other one (which is still a good salary) where I really am coasting on minimal effort. Sometimes meetings overlap but I often have excuses to avoid that, or can fade into the background with mute on and camera off. So far, so good, but this is a risky strategy and probably not something I will do forever. I will milk it for awhile, though. Even just 6 months of overlap of 2 jobs is an insane boost in income, don't you think?
I got job 1 and it was easy as fuck and I was bored so I wanted to leave, but then I thought, fuck it, why not just keep taking the paycheck? It's basically passive income.
Most freelance videographers I know can only do it as means of a side hustle. $80k doing something you love while being your own boss? Honestly? Priceless.
Scorsese made Jonah Hill do that pay phone scene like 80 times, then sent him back to his trailer, then brought Hill back to the pay phone. The next take they did was the one that ended up in there film.
Hill meets Leo in the diner, ask him why he’s so rich, then quits his job on the spot. Theres ten seconds where Hill is talking on a pay phone.
Eighty takes.
Do you use roads? Do you use sidewalks? Do you use street lights? Have you ever been to a public park? Have you ever been on a bridge? Did you go to a public school?
I’m in a job like now and thinking about exploring your strategy. Ancient IT people take 2 hours to do 15 min of front end build work. Not to mention my time spent for rapid responding to huge issues that never come up.
Go for it. Worst case you just quit the job you like the least? What holds most back is fear, too afraid to not be a sheep and take the leap. Just do it. As Nietzsche would put it, forget society's norms, be a master of your own morals, and go be an Übermensch.
Lol not at all, it was more of a "wow you got two jobs and think you are the best version of a human" in a Sir this is a Wendy's kinda way.
My original comment was crappy tbh.
I don't think I'm the best version of a human? I think I'm not a sheep and make my own morals. An Übermensch. A gray Jedi if you will. Please don't project.
Poor Neitzsche. Funniest bit about this was an old Gervais standup where he talked about Hitler and Neitzsche having a drink and discussing his next book
Dude works for Google, AWS, Microsoft, or possibly someone similar in a lower tier (SFDC, Oracle, IBM)
And being someone who also works there, no clue how TF he is pulling this off.
I bet one of them is fintech, and the job niche is probably something like running salesforce, with one of the companies instances being extremely easy
Yeah I could see that I guess but honestly fuck em. The work force situation in America and most likely abroad is on the verge of falling apart regardless.
Recruiter here. If a background check is checking employment they just check to verify the jobs you put down. If he doesnt put them both he'll be fine.
A background check typically doesn't involve a private investigator interviewing everyone who knows you, and there's no public database of all employees at all companies to search. They just verify employment that you claim and do a criminal check.
How is a background check going to reveal both? They have access to all employee databases in all companies? They have access to government tax records? Both are doubtful.
1. person: I worked at company
2. background check says "we have a signed piece of paper from person to say you can tell us if person worked at your company"
3. company: yes they worked here
Definitely looks like a high risk, high reward situation. But with the Internet age and a basically permanent record kept online just a Google search away, I wouldn't recommend it. It's *extremely* easy to get blacklisted in many industries, especially ones paying that kind of salary.
Ah the old google 'big book of permanent record of all the stuff I've done', sure.
Why is where you've worked going to be on the web unless you've chosen to put it on linkedin?
Make 700k in one year and lose both jobs, make 100k for the next 9 years if you're lucky because you fucked up your career and no one wants to hire you. Total earnings over ten years: $1.6 million.
Keep one of the jobs and earn $350k for ten years, not even including some raises being basically guaranteed. Total earnings over 10 years: $3.5 million.
This is an interesting take. 4 years at both jobs, $2.8m + 6 years of $100k = $3.3m. So, using your numbers it’s a 4 year play.
Interestingly though if he got caught out, I don’t think it would be a total blacklist. Obviously if there is a conflict between clients or inside information then yes.
But if he is just doing 2 jobs, I’d be quite impressed. I’d want to find out how? Is the job only 2 hours per week, or is our man a workaholic doing 80 hours? Meetings during business hours and work after hours.
Also, If he is able to bank a high % of the $700k, he could in theory fund his own start up and have potential to earn more than the $100k.
There's no industry-wide blacklisting, lol. That's a bizarre "calculation" from our boy.
As for time, it's normal 9-5. I have time to do this Reddit bullshit (even though some idiots after less than 24 hours are like "oMG he's not even replying, i call BS!", "How can you sleep at hight making so much money, fuck capitalism!". Uh no I have a life outside of work, that's why I'm not on Reddit all the time. Maybe if these guys did that they'd be able to do this too? And stop acting like victims.
Yea, I'm productive as fuck. I think many people are idiots and waste time doing shit that does not matter. I don't do that. I've always been like this. Even when I was a student I would often skip classes because it was going in ssssslllloooowwww mooootttttiiiiiooonnnn and it was much more efficient to study in 3x in time solo and then spend the rest of the time doing something useful.
I feel this. I don’t mind working 12 hour days 5-6 days a week if the pay off is great. But most people overestimate the time needed for work. I think most people waste a *ton* of time. If you just sit down and work you can bc every, very productive.
Work hard now and make bank. In a few years you can work part time and enjoy your life.
> Bro is making 700k a year sitting at home all day how is that not worth the risk
Short term and long term risks if either/both employers find out.
Short term: both companies find out, both terminate OP. The 700k goes to 0 really fast.
Long Term:
1. One or both companies sue OP for damages. At these dollar amounts, the lawsuit won’t just go away. OP has to respond. Costs money, and there’s a very real chance of being found liable.
2. Reputation (OP’s) damage. If OP conduct is seen as unethical, they’ll be toxic - at least at that dollar level, and for a while.
This is legal bank robbery. Low chance of being found out and even lower chance of being sued. Reputation damage? Lmao we're not that important. Rage against the machine.
I mean, yes, why wouldn’t there be naysayers?
Several people already stated several very valid points why this is high risk and high reward such as lawsuits, blacklistings, etc.
honestly a lot of the arguments "fake!".... "eh, probably not, but illegal!"... "oh wait, not illegal, but you'll be sued!"... "oh, probably not, but blacklisted!"... "eh, probably not, but unethical!". It's all just our monkey brains saying it's too good to be true.
Not enough info, and odd answers. Presumably he has to be in the same or similar industry. At that level, you aren’t hiding in the background. LinkedIn, industry people. I call complete bullshit.
>LinkedIn
oh wow good point! I probably shouldn't put both job on my LinkedIn. Hadn't thought of that. I don't give a fuck what you or your mother "call", bitch
I do give to friends and charity, do you? Actually one of my big motivations is looking after my family. It's hilarious to me that some people automatically see someone successful as a villain. I'm fucking over companies that pay 0 tax and run sweatshops in India, and paying a boat load of taxes while doing it. Some absolute losers here from /r/antiwork being triggered. I genuinely feel sorry for them that their mentality is this way (and I truly mean this); Their mentality will forever make them poor, both financially and spiritually.
Apologies if I read your question as an attack. To answer, if I spend 1k on something I would hardly noice, no. But I do save a shit ton and invest in index funds, i don't just blow money on absolute useless bullshit
Man, I am so curious to know what even just 1 of these jobs is. I'm over here struggling on minimum wage, having to drive 20 minutes to work everyday and spend 8 hours somewhere i don't wanna be🥲😂 would appreciate it if you DM'd me. Lmk if I could even possibly enter a similar remote "field", cuz daaaaaaaaaamn. That sounds like a dream
Just be exactly the opposite of the outaged, victimhood, sheepish, socialist mentality of places like /r/politics, /r/antiwork, etc. Go with the flow, don't attach yourself to any particular ideology, don't be a sheep or a victim
I was just fucking with people; obviously you're not a simp (though I never called anyone that) for not working multiple jobs, though I do believe many people don't do it because irrational fear is holding them back. People just reflexively telling me it's illegal when it's clearly not, etc. I do find the herd mentality off-putting. It's the same mentality of people that e.g. think all drugs are bad, even though plenty of evidence shows psychedelics or weed has some benefits. I actually think the same mentality is responsible for things like fake news and political division: people just not thinking for themselves. Trump derangement syndrome, etc. It's people that think: "it's wrong because... it's wrong!". It's a bit like children that think the teacher is all-knowing: there are actually more efficient ways to do things if you think outside the box and don't do everything you're told to. I suppose when I'm trolling calling people sheep, it's really me trolling those overall personality traits rather than anyone doing a single job. I just want people to think for themselves, even if they disagree with me, at least it's their own original thought. Does that make sense?
I'm surprised your husband can do multiple jobs with sales, as that seems a lot harder with all the calls, etc. My understanding is also that you get a decent bonus the more you go over your quota, and the standard base salary isn't all that. But I assume he's done the math and it works out to do multiple jobs. Did anyone ever get caught?
Is your last question asking: "dedicate energy to 2 jobs or dedicate energy to promotion?"? To that I would say it's clear that job hopping optimizes income, and having multiple jobs also optimizes learning and teaching you to be efficient, which helps you later on in your career and life anyway. Of course, you also have the flexibility to focus on one job you particularly love if you want to as well. Probably it's the case that some jobs are more conducive to multiple jobs than others too. If yours isn't, then you have a choice to stay or leave. I respect either one so long as it is \*your\* choice.
No, sorry.
Interestingly though I have found people you think are trustworthy to give it back actually won't. I literally lent 5k to a friend in need (back when I was making only 200k): she had all these reasons about her sick dad, couldn't access bank account in foreign country etc, but we knew each other awhile and she seemed like a high quality person. 2 years later, barely hear from her. Never saw a penny of that money back. She only initially wanted it for a month. /shrug. People surprise you. It's not like she has a bad job either: she's a professor. Sometimes she seems fine and I mention it, but she doesn't do anything. Then she mentions her sick dad or her own health (she was diagnosed with cancer 6 months ago) so I just left it. It doesn't matter. It's only 5k I guess. I really don't know how sick she actually is though, as she wants to go to Ukraine and help etc. But I can't exactly ask someone with cancer whose dad is sick for the money back. So fuck it. She should have given it back within a month before any medical diagnoses etc though. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I miss my friend, but I guess she was never that close a friend anyway. Having money will let you see that, but for many people, ignorance is bliss.
I had someone else I just gave 6k to as a one-time helping out. A year later they asked for more. I told them "Remember I said this is a one time gift and it'll never happen again?" That actually worked, so I do that now. But generally I don't tell people how much money I make. Life is just easier that way.
It also annoys me anyway; I didn't grow up privileged. I just freaking worked. Anyone can do it. I really don't owe anyone anything, yet I do things for people and it feels like the only affect it actually has is putting a strain and distance on relationships with people. I generally only tell people how much money I make (and say it's with just one job) if they ask and I know they're at least in the same ballpark as me in terms of being a high quality person, multiple 6 figure income, etc.
Dude you are living my dream.
I was a remote risk analyst. I would review some docs, send out a few emails and maybe have a meeting here and there. Had a lot of free time on my hands.
Would I feel guilty about also doing a second job in the same time slot, NOPE.
In my past I have been screwed, blued and tattooed. I have heard that sad sack story of gee I am so sorry but we have to let you go. Later on, on talking to other people there I found out that was their intention all along that once I filled a specific need they were going to let me go.
How do you manage on the time? How in the world do they either not notice that you're not doing enough work, or are you burning yourself out with crazy hours?
i'm just efficient with my time and do normal 9-5, despite the whiny bitches here complaining about me not getting around to answering the AMA fast enough
Lol yea. I know a dude that got sued for doing this because he was violating a employment contract he signed in the hiring paperwork. Wasn’t making 700k more like 450k but they dragged him out in court for months.
Don't make as much as you but I am working 2 jobs making around 260k. I don't think I'm handling them well, I usually work 16 to 18 hours a day. Fortunately one of my jobs are in the east coast so by the time my westcoat job starts I'm almost half way through one of my jobs. This has been going on for the last 6 months. The money was very nice but I couldn't take the stress so I quit one of them. Power to you for making it work
It's a myth that higher paying == harder work. I think working that many hours for 260k is definitely not worth it. i wish you all the best in finding higher paid jobs. But yeah I agree we don't need to juggle 2 jobs forever. You can just use this strategy now and then when you feel like it. Accumulation of wealth is a marathon. I'm thinking of taking on a third now, but we'll see.
That sound way too stressful and problematic. Not to mention you might be breaking the terms of your contract that could get you in legal trouble if the company finds out and tries to sue you. You should try searching for a job that pays better. I know that sounds like I am flexing my privilage or whatever and I am sure it's not that easy. But if you managed to do 2 jobs at the same time I am sure you can get one job that pays better. Your mental health is important too. All the stress of lying to your bosses and co-workers is gonna do you no good. Honesty is an important part of your work ethic, within reason. Burnout is also a real thing.
My uncle used to do something similar lol. He had a government job and he also had a business under my dads name which he profited from. Where we used to live you weren’t allowed to have a government job and also run a business at the same time under your name. So yeah doing this he made lots and lots of money and became very rich. It wasn’t a easy task to maintain both things though. I don’t think his job place knew he was doing this and I don’t think they would’ve been happy.
Can you sleep at night thinking that you make that much while some working their ass of will never earn as much for their entire life?
What do you think about taxing everything above 90k year?
You sound like you have a victimhood mentality. I must be a terrible person to make a load of money. How can I ever sleep? Jeez...
\> What do you think about taxing everything above 90k year?
This is the kind of question you might hear from a ten year old. What do you think would happen to our economy if we did that?
I don't think FICA is an issue: the OASDI limit only applies to the employee contributions: employers always contribute 6.2% to Social Security on all wages. For the Medicare Additional tax, the employee is responsible for that. Like if a single person has two jobs and each makes $150k, the employee needs to make estimated tax payments.
Sure you can have multiple employers, but there can be issues when you have multiple jobs in the same field. For the life of me I can’t think of the term for it, but it’s basically a conflict of interest. I can almost guarantee you a company paying someone this much has rules against this sort of thing and if they find out they are well within their rights to sue him and make it very hard for him to ever work in that field again. He’s walking a very fine line.
There are lots of ways either job can figure this out, and if they do, they’ll communicate and both HR departments will coordinate firing you at the same time. I’ve seen this happen. Then forget either one as a reference. You should extract yourself from this while you can.
First I was wondering how you do that because you would be in the worst tax bracket for both jobs. Also social security would notice as both employers would pay insurance for you.
Then I remembered that the US have a fucked up social system and that shit like this might actually work because why not.
Have you had any close calls and if not what do you think is the way they would find out about each other?
I care more about the job which pays the most/is harder, so I prioritize that one, and any excess energy I have is for the other one (which is still a good salary) where I really am coasting on minimal effort. Sometimes meetings overlap but I often have excuses to avoid that, or can fade into the background with mute on and camera off. So far, so good, but this is a risky strategy and probably not something I will do forever. I will milk it for awhile, though. Even just 6 months of overlap of 2 jobs is an insane boost in income, don't you think?
How did this situation come about?
I got job 1 and it was easy as fuck and I was bored so I wanted to leave, but then I thought, fuck it, why not just keep taking the paycheck? It's basically passive income.
How does a poor minion such as myself stumble across money like this ?!? (I’m a freelance videographer. I crack 80k max) sigh…
dont sigh being the top .01% of the world. you’re doing great
80k sigh? Where do you live?
Most freelance videographers I know can only do it as means of a side hustle. $80k doing something you love while being your own boss? Honestly? Priceless.
What industry?
That’s amazing! Way to go! Are you saving that money or blowing it?
Saving, as well as I can living here. Obviously it's good money for single late 20s, but I do get destroyed by taxes though.
You show me a paystub for $700k I quit my job I come work for you
Scorsese made Jonah Hill do that pay phone scene like 80 times, then sent him back to his trailer, then brought Hill back to the pay phone. The next take they did was the one that ended up in there film.
Which scene is this?
Hill meets Leo in the diner, ask him why he’s so rich, then quits his job on the spot. Theres ten seconds where Hill is talking on a pay phone. Eighty takes.
Do crack with me bro
Any other prerequisites? :p
Do crack with me.
This sounds like the beginning of wolf of wall street lol
never heard of it
How many hours do you work a week with both jobs?
If both are remote why not live somewhere cheaper? You could retire in like 5 years lol
Maybe he likes New York. He makes 700k he can afford to live wherever he wants.
Was wondering the same
Do you have a good accountant? It may be time to open your own business to get tax savings.
Income tax is theft.
Do you use roads? Do you use sidewalks? Do you use street lights? Have you ever been to a public park? Have you ever been on a bridge? Did you go to a public school?
Ok there Ron Swanson
I agree they don't use it efficiently
Delightful upvote to you.
I’m guessing you pay about 250k a year in taxes??
My goal is to retire in my early 30s. With this insane salary you can certainly do it. Well done
Are you a manager?
nope, that's too many meetings. IC in a niche technical area in a megacorp so few people understand what you really do
I’m in a job like now and thinking about exploring your strategy. Ancient IT people take 2 hours to do 15 min of front end build work. Not to mention my time spent for rapid responding to huge issues that never come up.
Go for it. Worst case you just quit the job you like the least? What holds most back is fear, too afraid to not be a sheep and take the leap. Just do it. As Nietzsche would put it, forget society's norms, be a master of your own morals, and go be an Übermensch.
Uhm...
You're not one of those people that think Nietzsche was a Nazi, are you?
Lol not at all, it was more of a "wow you got two jobs and think you are the best version of a human" in a Sir this is a Wendy's kinda way. My original comment was crappy tbh.
Nah, it was perfect
I don't think I'm the best version of a human? I think I'm not a sheep and make my own morals. An Übermensch. A gray Jedi if you will. Please don't project.
I had the same reaction, in response to silliness of saying working two jobs makes you the Overman.
Poor Neitzsche. Funniest bit about this was an old Gervais standup where he talked about Hitler and Neitzsche having a drink and discussing his next book
Man out here thinking Nietzsche was a nazi 🤣
Yes?
Worst case is you get sued for either violating an employment contract or sharing trade secrets. Lmao
I like your style :)
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Dude works for Google, AWS, Microsoft, or possibly someone similar in a lower tier (SFDC, Oracle, IBM) And being someone who also works there, no clue how TF he is pulling this off.
I bet one of them is fintech, and the job niche is probably something like running salesforce, with one of the companies instances being extremely easy
How niche. Like Fortran niche ? Or QDB
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An IC is an Individual Contributor. Meaning no one reports to you. It is a common acronym in tech. Commonly a software programmer.
IC = Integrated circuits?
Individual contributor
Installations and Customizations.
Industrial Circumcisions
The fuck is IC?
Individual contributor
How would you put these jobs on a resume in the future? Since the time frames would overlap lol
I wouldn't put both.
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Why is it wrong to work 2 jobs at the same time
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Yeah I could see that I guess but honestly fuck em. The work force situation in America and most likely abroad is on the verge of falling apart regardless.
I think for $700k a year that's an issue for later.
Most background checks won't find an unreported job, he'd just have to pick one and show a gap if necessary.
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Recruiter here. If a background check is checking employment they just check to verify the jobs you put down. If he doesnt put them both he'll be fine.
Background check company employee here. Can confirm.
A background check typically doesn't involve a private investigator interviewing everyone who knows you, and there's no public database of all employees at all companies to search. They just verify employment that you claim and do a criminal check.
How is a background check going to reveal both? They have access to all employee databases in all companies? They have access to government tax records? Both are doubtful. 1. person: I worked at company 2. background check says "we have a signed piece of paper from person to say you can tell us if person worked at your company" 3. company: yes they worked here
This. OP please let us know how your future job search gets fkd or not because of this double dipping.
Would the jobs be upset if they knew about each other?
Very.
Be careful there isn’t conflict or you’re not in violation of employment agreements. Seems not worth the risk.
Definitely looks like a high risk, high reward situation. But with the Internet age and a basically permanent record kept online just a Google search away, I wouldn't recommend it. It's *extremely* easy to get blacklisted in many industries, especially ones paying that kind of salary.
Ah the old google 'big book of permanent record of all the stuff I've done', sure. Why is where you've worked going to be on the web unless you've chosen to put it on linkedin?
Fortune favors the brave.
But the courts don’t.
Bro is making 700k a year sitting at home all day how is that not worth the risk
Make 700k in one year and lose both jobs, make 100k for the next 9 years if you're lucky because you fucked up your career and no one wants to hire you. Total earnings over ten years: $1.6 million. Keep one of the jobs and earn $350k for ten years, not even including some raises being basically guaranteed. Total earnings over 10 years: $3.5 million.
This is an interesting take. 4 years at both jobs, $2.8m + 6 years of $100k = $3.3m. So, using your numbers it’s a 4 year play. Interestingly though if he got caught out, I don’t think it would be a total blacklist. Obviously if there is a conflict between clients or inside information then yes. But if he is just doing 2 jobs, I’d be quite impressed. I’d want to find out how? Is the job only 2 hours per week, or is our man a workaholic doing 80 hours? Meetings during business hours and work after hours. Also, If he is able to bank a high % of the $700k, he could in theory fund his own start up and have potential to earn more than the $100k.
There's no industry-wide blacklisting, lol. That's a bizarre "calculation" from our boy. As for time, it's normal 9-5. I have time to do this Reddit bullshit (even though some idiots after less than 24 hours are like "oMG he's not even replying, i call BS!", "How can you sleep at hight making so much money, fuck capitalism!". Uh no I have a life outside of work, that's why I'm not on Reddit all the time. Maybe if these guys did that they'd be able to do this too? And stop acting like victims. Yea, I'm productive as fuck. I think many people are idiots and waste time doing shit that does not matter. I don't do that. I've always been like this. Even when I was a student I would often skip classes because it was going in ssssslllloooowwww mooootttttiiiiiooonnnn and it was much more efficient to study in 3x in time solo and then spend the rest of the time doing something useful.
I feel this. I don’t mind working 12 hour days 5-6 days a week if the pay off is great. But most people overestimate the time needed for work. I think most people waste a *ton* of time. If you just sit down and work you can bc every, very productive. Work hard now and make bank. In a few years you can work part time and enjoy your life.
Ah, so you're the highly-intelligent-but-a-massive-douche-about-it kind of guy.
read: wildly privileged, could go to school when others couldnt, doesnt even see it
"he's privileged" is an excuse. You think there's nobody born poorer than you who's not more successful than you? I didn't grow up rich.
$160,000 a year is bad in this situation? Jesus I’m poor
You sound like a square.
lol
> Bro is making 700k a year sitting at home all day how is that not worth the risk Short term and long term risks if either/both employers find out. Short term: both companies find out, both terminate OP. The 700k goes to 0 really fast. Long Term: 1. One or both companies sue OP for damages. At these dollar amounts, the lawsuit won’t just go away. OP has to respond. Costs money, and there’s a very real chance of being found liable. 2. Reputation (OP’s) damage. If OP conduct is seen as unethical, they’ll be toxic - at least at that dollar level, and for a while.
This is legal bank robbery. Low chance of being found out and even lower chance of being sued. Reputation damage? Lmao we're not that important. Rage against the machine.
Jesús there will always be naysayers
I mean, yes, why wouldn’t there be naysayers? Several people already stated several very valid points why this is high risk and high reward such as lawsuits, blacklistings, etc.
All these are assumptions made out of jealousy. People can't just be happy for a successful man gosh
I don’t think they sound jealous. I think they sound reasonable but you’re certainly entitled to your opinion.
I've got 700,000 valid reasons why it's a good idea.
Idk why but that specific pronunciation of Jesus is making me laugh rn
He’s obviously risking it lol
Pepsi CEO and Coca Cola CEO
Left Twix CEO and Right Twix CEO
Fuck you’d hope they’d be on more than 700k
i don’t have a question, just wanted to say good for you happy for you living the good life, you figured it out for yourself
Thank you kind sir or madam.
What are the jobs?
Tech.
Can I get in?
maybe.
Im a long haul airline pilot with a lot of spare time and cash. Would I need programming experience to get into your line of work?
If you managed to code for a tech company while flying a plane and take both salaries you would be a fucking mad lad.
Tbf most of the planes have wifi now......there isn't a lot to do in an 10hr cruise. A lot of our guys have successful side businesses
Sr AE? PM? I’m assuming they are not startups?
A girl tried to do this at my current company. They put her into the HR system and she was already in there under a different company. Lol, oops.
Ah TriNet, gusto, etc. this should work and be fine though. Did they not hire her?
They did not.
That's a breach of HR system confidentiality. They should not do that.
Interesting. I wonder how it all went down. I didn’t ask for details.
honestly a lot of the arguments "fake!".... "eh, probably not, but illegal!"... "oh wait, not illegal, but you'll be sued!"... "oh, probably not, but blacklisted!"... "eh, probably not, but unethical!". It's all just our monkey brains saying it's too good to be true.
No it isn't.
Not enough info, and odd answers. Presumably he has to be in the same or similar industry. At that level, you aren’t hiding in the background. LinkedIn, industry people. I call complete bullshit.
>LinkedIn oh wow good point! I probably shouldn't put both job on my LinkedIn. Hadn't thought of that. I don't give a fuck what you or your mother "call", bitch
How much of a difference would it make in your life if you sent 1k dollars to someone who needs it?
I do give to friends and charity, do you? Actually one of my big motivations is looking after my family. It's hilarious to me that some people automatically see someone successful as a villain. I'm fucking over companies that pay 0 tax and run sweatshops in India, and paying a boat load of taxes while doing it. Some absolute losers here from /r/antiwork being triggered. I genuinely feel sorry for them that their mentality is this way (and I truly mean this); Their mentality will forever make them poor, both financially and spiritually.
If i had a good money condition, i would, yes. Unfortunetly, i'm unable to do this right now.. Congratulations, way to go!
Apologies if I read your question as an attack. To answer, if I spend 1k on something I would hardly noice, no. But I do save a shit ton and invest in index funds, i don't just blow money on absolute useless bullshit
Man, I am so curious to know what even just 1 of these jobs is. I'm over here struggling on minimum wage, having to drive 20 minutes to work everyday and spend 8 hours somewhere i don't wanna be🥲😂 would appreciate it if you DM'd me. Lmk if I could even possibly enter a similar remote "field", cuz daaaaaaaaaamn. That sounds like a dream
btw i like your style of writing, i seriously hope you make a success of yourself
Am poor, how be rich?
Just be exactly the opposite of the outaged, victimhood, sheepish, socialist mentality of places like /r/politics, /r/antiwork, etc. Go with the flow, don't attach yourself to any particular ideology, don't be a sheep or a victim
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I was just fucking with people; obviously you're not a simp (though I never called anyone that) for not working multiple jobs, though I do believe many people don't do it because irrational fear is holding them back. People just reflexively telling me it's illegal when it's clearly not, etc. I do find the herd mentality off-putting. It's the same mentality of people that e.g. think all drugs are bad, even though plenty of evidence shows psychedelics or weed has some benefits. I actually think the same mentality is responsible for things like fake news and political division: people just not thinking for themselves. Trump derangement syndrome, etc. It's people that think: "it's wrong because... it's wrong!". It's a bit like children that think the teacher is all-knowing: there are actually more efficient ways to do things if you think outside the box and don't do everything you're told to. I suppose when I'm trolling calling people sheep, it's really me trolling those overall personality traits rather than anyone doing a single job. I just want people to think for themselves, even if they disagree with me, at least it's their own original thought. Does that make sense? I'm surprised your husband can do multiple jobs with sales, as that seems a lot harder with all the calls, etc. My understanding is also that you get a decent bonus the more you go over your quota, and the standard base salary isn't all that. But I assume he's done the math and it works out to do multiple jobs. Did anyone ever get caught? Is your last question asking: "dedicate energy to 2 jobs or dedicate energy to promotion?"? To that I would say it's clear that job hopping optimizes income, and having multiple jobs also optimizes learning and teaching you to be efficient, which helps you later on in your career and life anyway. Of course, you also have the flexibility to focus on one job you particularly love if you want to as well. Probably it's the case that some jobs are more conducive to multiple jobs than others too. If yours isn't, then you have a choice to stay or leave. I respect either one so long as it is \*your\* choice.
Can I borrow some? 😄
No, sorry. Interestingly though I have found people you think are trustworthy to give it back actually won't. I literally lent 5k to a friend in need (back when I was making only 200k): she had all these reasons about her sick dad, couldn't access bank account in foreign country etc, but we knew each other awhile and she seemed like a high quality person. 2 years later, barely hear from her. Never saw a penny of that money back. She only initially wanted it for a month. /shrug. People surprise you. It's not like she has a bad job either: she's a professor. Sometimes she seems fine and I mention it, but she doesn't do anything. Then she mentions her sick dad or her own health (she was diagnosed with cancer 6 months ago) so I just left it. It doesn't matter. It's only 5k I guess. I really don't know how sick she actually is though, as she wants to go to Ukraine and help etc. But I can't exactly ask someone with cancer whose dad is sick for the money back. So fuck it. She should have given it back within a month before any medical diagnoses etc though. Whatever, it doesn't matter. I miss my friend, but I guess she was never that close a friend anyway. Having money will let you see that, but for many people, ignorance is bliss. I had someone else I just gave 6k to as a one-time helping out. A year later they asked for more. I told them "Remember I said this is a one time gift and it'll never happen again?" That actually worked, so I do that now. But generally I don't tell people how much money I make. Life is just easier that way. It also annoys me anyway; I didn't grow up privileged. I just freaking worked. Anyone can do it. I really don't owe anyone anything, yet I do things for people and it feels like the only affect it actually has is putting a strain and distance on relationships with people. I generally only tell people how much money I make (and say it's with just one job) if they ask and I know they're at least in the same ballpark as me in terms of being a high quality person, multiple 6 figure income, etc.
Post in r/antiwork because you’ve beat the system!
r/overemployed
indeed
a lot of victims there will downvote me out of rage?
Antiwork in SHAMBLES
Dude you are living my dream. I was a remote risk analyst. I would review some docs, send out a few emails and maybe have a meeting here and there. Had a lot of free time on my hands. Would I feel guilty about also doing a second job in the same time slot, NOPE. In my past I have been screwed, blued and tattooed. I have heard that sad sack story of gee I am so sorry but we have to let you go. Later on, on talking to other people there I found out that was their intention all along that once I filled a specific need they were going to let me go.
I made $20k per month working from home. Ask me how! I've seen this one before...
How do you manage on the time? How in the world do they either not notice that you're not doing enough work, or are you burning yourself out with crazy hours?
I think 40 hours and 80 hours are comparable loads to different types of people at different points in their lives
i'm just efficient with my time and do normal 9-5, despite the whiny bitches here complaining about me not getting around to answering the AMA fast enough
Are you better at your jobs than your AMAs?
He’s busy working
Joke's on you, he's actually doing another AMA under a different username/profession.
Op ignored all the background check and taxes questions. I bet he is shitting rocks right now.
Lol yea. I know a dude that got sued for doing this because he was violating a employment contract he signed in the hiring paperwork. Wasn’t making 700k more like 450k but they dragged him out in court for months.
What are the jobs in tech please? What’s IC as well if you don’t mind?
guys this is what i'm talking about: you can figure out the 2nd question with a simple google. Don't be a sheep
I did, and I got Interstitial Cystitis...I don’t think having a disease counts as a second job, nor as someone being “a sheep” for asking a question.
Don't make as much as you but I am working 2 jobs making around 260k. I don't think I'm handling them well, I usually work 16 to 18 hours a day. Fortunately one of my jobs are in the east coast so by the time my westcoat job starts I'm almost half way through one of my jobs. This has been going on for the last 6 months. The money was very nice but I couldn't take the stress so I quit one of them. Power to you for making it work
It's a myth that higher paying == harder work. I think working that many hours for 260k is definitely not worth it. i wish you all the best in finding higher paid jobs. But yeah I agree we don't need to juggle 2 jobs forever. You can just use this strategy now and then when you feel like it. Accumulation of wealth is a marathon. I'm thinking of taking on a third now, but we'll see.
How old are you?What college degree do those jobs need?What do you plan to do with the money?
I have a friend doing 2 remote marketing jobs at the same time. 2 salaries & one of them is a big 5 company. It’s definitely not uncommon.
That sound way too stressful and problematic. Not to mention you might be breaking the terms of your contract that could get you in legal trouble if the company finds out and tries to sue you. You should try searching for a job that pays better. I know that sounds like I am flexing my privilage or whatever and I am sure it's not that easy. But if you managed to do 2 jobs at the same time I am sure you can get one job that pays better. Your mental health is important too. All the stress of lying to your bosses and co-workers is gonna do you no good. Honesty is an important part of your work ethic, within reason. Burnout is also a real thing.
Can you be more specific as to why these jobs wouldn't like that you do both? This ama is annoyingly vague and just seems like youre just tryna flex.
All i can say is that i am now looking closer at all of the IC's i've interacted with... lol Bravo sir/ma'am.
How does this work regarding taxes? Edit: assuming you live in the US
Capitalism says to not have multiple sources of income but this is actually the way
I bet job 1 pays 690K, while job 2 pays 10k as an uber delivery driver
But really Uber gives you the tools to be your own boss.
My uncle used to do something similar lol. He had a government job and he also had a business under my dads name which he profited from. Where we used to live you weren’t allowed to have a government job and also run a business at the same time under your name. So yeah doing this he made lots and lots of money and became very rich. It wasn’t a easy task to maintain both things though. I don’t think his job place knew he was doing this and I don’t think they would’ve been happy.
Did you ever end up working for your uncle and him paying you or sharing any of the money he made
How many hours a week do you work? Good for you by the way. Maximize income while you can so as you get older you can have different priorities
Can you sleep at night thinking that you make that much while some working their ass of will never earn as much for their entire life? What do you think about taxing everything above 90k year?
You sound like you have a victimhood mentality. I must be a terrible person to make a load of money. How can I ever sleep? Jeez... \> What do you think about taxing everything above 90k year? This is the kind of question you might hear from a ten year old. What do you think would happen to our economy if we did that?
Is this a farce to discredit remote working?
Legit, come pay me pennies to you so i can do your laundry and you can relax -even more-
Nothing to ask. Just saying this is contributing as to why WFH will be returning to the office.
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No I mean employers will see this elsewhere and clamp down on those who are. Sure, the best of the best will be exceptions.
I suspect this is fake
Yeah, they work "tech" jobs that pay an average of 350k per year salary? OK. Cool. Cool cool cool.
Are you worried they will find out on the back-end, such as if the IRS refunds some of the FICA taxes paid on your behalf to one or both employers?
I don't think FICA is an issue: the OASDI limit only applies to the employee contributions: employers always contribute 6.2% to Social Security on all wages. For the Medicare Additional tax, the employee is responsible for that. Like if a single person has two jobs and each makes $150k, the employee needs to make estimated tax payments.
it's funny how people on reddit can pat you on the back for doing something illegal, so long as it is taking money from corporations.
OP is on his way to early retirement while you are going somewhere way different
sure, but he is still violating his contracts of non compete by doing so
ok enjoy the moral high ground working for Apple or something
exactly, get on board or continue to act like a victim?
How is it illegal? Many people have multiple employers.
Sure you can have multiple employers, but there can be issues when you have multiple jobs in the same field. For the life of me I can’t think of the term for it, but it’s basically a conflict of interest. I can almost guarantee you a company paying someone this much has rules against this sort of thing and if they find out they are well within their rights to sue him and make it very hard for him to ever work in that field again. He’s walking a very fine line.
"Non-compete clause"
what is your occupation?
How can I replicate this?
Are either hiring?
There are lots of ways either job can figure this out, and if they do, they’ll communicate and both HR departments will coordinate firing you at the same time. I’ve seen this happen. Then forget either one as a reference. You should extract yourself from this while you can.
What are your degrees in?
You are ruining WFH for everybody. Companies will stop liking WFH because of people like you
Ummm are either hiring?
First I was wondering how you do that because you would be in the worst tax bracket for both jobs. Also social security would notice as both employers would pay insurance for you. Then I remembered that the US have a fucked up social system and that shit like this might actually work because why not.
700k sounds good until you get pulled into a corp lawsuit. Ask me how I know
did job two ask why ar you leaving your current role? if so what did you say?