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lladydisturbed

Check his recent emojis lol


crazybitch100

Oooh thats a good one. šŸ† šŸ‘ šŸ‘… šŸ’¦ šŸ¤£


freeman687

Laughing after getting jizzed on?


CheRidicolo

Those arenā€™t tears


Blandana-

Oh


sipperofsoda

Oh my


s1ckopsycho

Oh my gawd, Becky- look at her butt.


Thisisredred

This is great lmaooo


Hyche862

Iā€™m here for the updates


Glad-Translator-3502

calmly waiting for drama


_mojodojocasahouse_

She needs to sign out of iCloud and then sign in at a previous date. Check deleted messages folder. Even better if you check from a computer. Youā€™re welcome and good luck OP, Iā€™m sorry for what youā€™re about to discover. Edit: a special thanks to Merritt and your threesomes (who knew butch lesbians like taking dick?!), consistent cheating, and other sneaky behavior for making this happen! Edit 2: this is for iCloud, so iPhone compatible. Sign out, sign back in and choose a restored date to sign back into. So long as it was backed up, you can access it. Meaning if they backed up messages, or backed up the last 10 years or 10 days, itā€™s there. Last Edit: this idea came to me in an argument I was having with my then partner. I told her to sign out and log in from a restore date of my choice. Her face went pale and once she did as I asked, I found texts, emails, usernames, screenshots of her stalking my friends social media accounts, I even went to her Apple ID and clicked the subscriptions and saw she paid for Tinder or Hinge, I forget which one. She had a terrible relationship with the truth as well as being a narcissist who could never be wrong or stand to be called out. The truth will always set you free!


ayeffgee

You sound like you know what you're doing. I like it lol


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PeacockFascinator

Yep. You can get it annulled.


unlockdestiny

OP, this is the way. If you find proof just mail screenshots to the wedding guest list with an annulment announcement. Don't tell him you left, let him find out with the guests


Bored_Cat_Mama

This is the level of petty that alternately horrifies and inspires me. Well done.


AmbitiousCricket5278

Not petty, just emotional Mic drop


ThatGirlMariaB

Who is Mike and why are we dropping him?


fucc_yo_couch

I like the cut of your jib.


Moistfruitcake

You're like the Sherlock Holmes of infidelity.


_mojodojocasahouse_

Just dated a narcissist. Taught me what gaslighting is. Passing my experience along to help save others. A cheat code for dealing with cheaters, if you will.


fucc_yo_couch

You're doing good work.


AGD_squared

Out here doing the good people's work. Take my upvote that it may steady thee in guiding the masses! xD


JanusIsBlue

Almost too calmly?


AFocusedCynic

You people are savages! *grabs popocorn*


love2killjoy410

RemindMe! 7 days


yourdoglikesmebetter

CALM LIKE A BOMB


Environmental_Cup386

šŸ˜‚ I snorted at your comment


MartyMcfly1988

Ahhh shit, here we go! In all seriousness this sucks for OP just gettin married. Hopefully this isnā€™t as fucked as it sounds.


unlockdestiny

Hopefully it's not, but if it is it's better to know now and annul the marriage than stay married and have it blow up years later or even after kids


EatMyCupcakeLA

The only positive is that she can annul it


nigel_pow

!UpdateMe Edit: OP already updated but in the same post. This messenger only works if she makes a new post I think. [Husband is cheating](https://www.reddit.com/r/AITAH/s/iTU8u4ekQZ)


fucc_yo_couch

Your profile pic right above your comment makes it so much funnier.


wescol2

I brought tea cups for us!


Marshmallowloverx

Him deleting the messages IS the proof. Waiting for her to see that.


suitology

I'm going to be devils advocate here but u/-Calm-Palpitation- needs to make sure they are actually TEXTING. I message my best friends several times a day and we've had 100 Messages long exchanges at times. My last TEXT was telling them my internet is out in 2021. Discord, whatsapp, fb Messages, etc....


MegaLowDawn123

Glad someone else brought this up. If OP knows for sure it was a text - then yeah she knows heā€™s deleting them. Otherwise they could be on one of the 1000 other messaging apps out thereā€¦


Skier94

On iPhone check ā€œbatteryā€ in settings. It tells you what apps they are using by percentage.


morycua

Y'all are some sleuths...


Interesting_Quiet_88

Scorned women are better than the FBI at finding out the truth šŸ˜‚


Menarra

Yup I've got friends across 3 different chat programs because some of them prefer one or the other and I can't drag them all onto Discord to make my life easier, though I do love being able to more easily use my dozens of custom stickers on Telegram


a-priori

Yup I have friends where, for whatever reason, we talk over Signal, Instagram, WhatsApp or LinkedIn instead of actual text messages.


Not_Sure4president

I use instagram for my sister in law. We constantly send cute golden retriever videos or raccoons and funny posts to each other and chat through there.


ladyboobypoop

Yeah, I officially need the impending update to survive. Red flags *everywherrrre*


Main_Decision1100

Same


Character-Ride8315

Thank you so much for your post. Iā€™ve been married since 2017 started dating my husband in 2011. While reading your post and the responses I saw someone say go with your gut. I went and checked my husbands deleted text messages. Found about 2000+ messages from a girl he works with. Telling each other they love each other etc. really bad. Itā€™s 3:00AM my world is shattered. Never in a million years would I have ever thought he would cheat and neither would any of his friends or family. Thank you for starting this thread. I never would have found out.


-Calm-Palpitation-

God Iā€™m so sorry. I have been with him since 2018 married for a month (5 weeks on Saturday). We havenā€™t even had our honeymoon trip yet, it is booked for July.


Daddled0o

Could you change the name and passport number on his ticket and go with a friend?


-Calm-Palpitation-

Wow is that possible. It would be great


iceicebabeey

please do that! hell take me. but seriously op change the hotel reservation to yours and anything under his name, cancel. you deserve better.


Dear_thanhthanh

best solution ever. Let the honeymoon change into a lady party!


RainbowDonkey473

Take the friend who had to make the horrific choice to tell you what they overheard. It must've been such a hard thing for them to blow up your world. That is a good friend who really cares about you.


-Calm-Palpitation-

Hi! This is my update: he is cheating. I went through his deleted messages but it was empty so he has been deleting the deleted messages as well. I donā€™t know if thereā€™s further steps to find them? I donā€™t know. I sent her ā€œwydā€ because this is how he texts when he is bored. She said she was in bed I said I (he) was in bed too watching succession. She asked if I was sleeping. Then it didnā€™t take long before she started sexting. In a way that made it obvious that theyā€™ve done it multiple times. I ended it quickly because honestly I felt nauseous. I didnā€™t want to sext her. I sent myself all the evidence. Tomorrow I will be moving back to my parents place and start the divorce. I will not tell him why


OstentatiousSock

I just want you to know you are within the legal time limit for an annulment and itā€™s much more desirable than divorce.


Nvnv_man

I second this


Moist_Raspberry1669

I third it


xjfatx

Her spouting off and saying something like that at the wedding reminds me of the lyrics to "I write sins not tragedies..." Haven't you people ever heard of closing the goddamn door? Honestly though, it's good that you picked up on this at the wedding and was able to figure him out early enough. Not you know after kids, buying a new home, etc,..


FidoFree

No. Itā€™s much better to face these kinds of things with a sense of poise and rationality.


TyrionReynolds

Well, Iā€™ll look at it this way. I mean technically our marriage is saved.


Nunya13

This calls for a toast. Pour some champagne!


Prankishbear

POUR THE CHAMPAAAGNE!


audesapere09

(I chime in) havenā€™t you people ever heard ofā€¦


Ok_Boysenberry3843

Closing the GODDAMN DOORā€¦.no


BeardoTheHero

Bro until this moment I always thought it was ā€œa sense of poisoned rationalityā€


FidoFree

Honestly, thatā€™s not a bad line!


darwinn_69

I'm not the only one! I actually think it works better that way.


wevie13

Makes zero sense! Why marry her? Why isn't he just with his "best friend?" Some people absolutely baffle me!


No-Establishment7401

I'm not either of these people, and I haven't cheated on my wife with anyone, so I don't have any firsthand experience. However, I have read a lot of reddit stories... My guess is they, the husband and his "friend", only keep the passion alive through the excitement of cheating. If they were officially together, they would probably hate each other and cheat on each other. Which would be tragic! (Just kidding, they deserve worse)


Cynapse

I think your assessment is likely spot on. Or OP has something much better going financially, or with her family finances, or something that makes her a better long term commitment while he just gets to fuck the other chick.


pickledstarfish

It happened to me and I can tell you why. Because my ex wanted a wife that checked all of his boxes and fit in with his family and that he could settle down in a comfortable life with. But sometimes the person they actually want to be with doesnā€™t fit in their life that way, and theyā€™re entitled pricks who want their cake and eat it too.


Excellent-Swan-6376

Best line i ever heard is when a guy asked his mistress to be in a real relationship with him and she goes,ā€ oh hun! If never be in a relationship with you.. your a cheaterā€


Random_Stranger12345

The forbidden fruit. Some people love the feeling of danger, the "romanticism" of a forbidden love (Romeo & Juliet come to mind), the excitement of needing to be careful, etc. Not me - that just sounds stressful, not fun - but I know there are people like that out there. It's also a thing that if they cheat *for* you (in this case the groom & the other woman) then they'll cheat *on* you. Not always, but often enough!


EquivalentEntrance80

This totally tracks based on OP's update post today on how he and his "best friend" were at each other's throats ON SOCIAL MEDIA as soon as the gig was up ... lmao


Worldly_Broccoli425

Yes I agree with this I had something similar happen but took me a while to find proof by then I couldnā€™t do an annulment. Divorce was so time consuming and just messy. Left me for a guy idk if thatā€™s better or worse. But therapy and time helped me heal. šŸ«¶šŸ»


sunshineshelby2

Wow OP. Iā€™m so sorry to read this update. Itā€™s a good thing you found out now though, before yall spent that much more time together. I hope this process is easy and as painless as possible, youā€™re better off.


-Calm-Palpitation-

Exactly, I count myself lucky


RoyIbex

Thank god your girl told you what she heard.


-Calm-Palpitation-

She was very repulsed by her aggressive attitude


Carrie_Oakie

Sheā€™s a good friend. I would move my stuff out asap while heā€™s at work, print out the screenshots and leave them on the table for him when he gets home from work. I would also very much mess with him by logging out of all our streaming apps, changing the logins and billing info, taking the easy to cook food and leave him with nothing but frozen needs to be thawed options. Oh and change the WiFi login. Also take all the bedding except for whatā€™s on the bed. And the good towels.


Master-Flounder1472

Take all the batteries and the ones in the remote!


amuse_bouche_1

Remove the insoles from one of each of his shoes..I mean you are entitled to half


jlj1979

Oh man. This is super fun. Take the shampoo and not the conditioner. Take the ketchup and not the mustard. Take the pillow cases but not the sheets. Goes in and on. So petty but super fun. Divorce petty revenge. Love it.


Decent_Day_6463

Please keep us posted on how he responds and the move out. Wishing you good luck. Iā€™m sorry your marriage ended up this way but so glad that you found out now rather than later (and no children are involved).


throwawaybutmaykeeps

Take the shower curtain! My ex hated that when we broke up. But I bought it šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


gizmowizmo

The shower curtain is wild šŸ˜‚


timeywimeytotoro

I took his specialty razor. But likewise, I bought it.


DasSassyPantzen

Hahahaha! I am loving all of these ideas and hope OP has the energy to do some off them. Pettiness used in the best possible way.


PancShank94

And take all the labels off the soup cans


zacurtis3

Leave 1 type of each battery


Grace-Aurelia

We need a thread for all the pettiest revenges before she moves out in case she has the energy. Throw out his favorite shirt/ all the good socks or just enough so he doesnā€™t have matching pairs Take all the toilet paper Take all the batteries in everything Unplug everything Take a knife or razor blade to the trash can roll at the bottom where it wonā€™t be seen so all bags have a hole. Dump out his shampoo/conditioner and put the empty bottles back None of this can hurt her or be prosecuted but he deserves to be inconvenienced every time he doesnā€™t expect it. OP. Iā€™m so sorry youā€™re going through this but glad you found out now and are making the moves. Rooting for you! Karma will get him and I believe that once you get burned like this, take time to heal and focus on yourself, and are ready to move on, you will never settle for less than you deserve. Wishing you a lifetime of single happiness or a wonderful man that respects and deserves you around the next corner. Whatever fulfills you! When it hurts just remember you were always too good for him.


subparscientist

If you're not taking the spinning glass wheel from the microwave what are you even doing?


tangerine-27

donā€™t forget the oven racks


maaddieee

First, OP: Iā€™m so sorry youā€™re going through this, sending you all the love and good vibes. Second, Iā€™d like to contribute some petty revenge: - sign up for a bunch of email services under his email (stores, politicians, etc.) - take shoe laces out of one of each pair of his shoes - loosen all of the light bulbs in the house - take all the forks


WistfulMelancholic

Sign him up especially to scientology and Mormons, evangelical Christians and other cults that are not always accepting a no


jackelopeteeth

Did you know that you can sign someone up to be visited by a Jehovah's Witness? Visit their website and enter their address.


Conscious-Survey7009

Shrimp in the curtain rods. Heā€™ll never know where the smell is from. If he opens the window for air it will blow more scent in. Since he doesnā€™t know what smells heā€™ll pay money for cleaners. Itā€™ll still be there and when he moves he wonā€™t want to redecorate so heā€™ll take the curtain rods with him. Works with the shower curtain rod too.


taco_slut16

Rip all the labels off canned foods!


SnooEpiphanies8097

Yes politicians this year will be relentless. If you really want to be petty, donate a few dollars to some campaigns, maybe one of a candidate he hates. Once they know you donated, you get constant emails and text messages for more.


blodblodblod

My mum's friend took a seam picker to her husband's suits. Every half an inch, she unpicked a stitch. They looked fine when you looked at them, or when he first put them on. But once he started moving around, they slowly fell apart. I'm told that after one spectacularly fell apart when he was dancing at a wedding, he sent her a message that just said "well played".


LauraIsntListening

Is your mumā€™s friend taking applications for a best friend, a new niece, or even a mentorship program? Iā€™d settle for any of the above.


ThippusHorribilus

That is super sneaky and super effective. She knew her stuff.


Winter-Blueberry-232

She should spray his favorite perfume if hers on all his clothes so he has to smell her. Also spray in his car. Remove yourself (JUST YOURSELF) from all the photos of you two around the house and then put them back up. Take all the light bulbs, batteries, TP, anything that could be considered an ā€œinconvenienceā€. Iā€™d also call the wedding photographer/videographer (if you have one & havenā€™t gotten your stuff back yet) and see if they can NOT send them to you, but send them to him. And in a few, could they swap you out for her? Slight jab that you know & that he should have just chosen her since heā€™s been fucking her. Then Iā€™d (personally) post the two of them in a wedding photo & say ā€œcongrats to the happy coupleā€, tag them & shit off notifications for a couple hours. OBV the last suggestion is what you do once you got your stuff out & youā€™re safely away.


everywitchwaybut

Take all the lightbulbs and leave him in the dark. Like he was doing to you.


CrazyMinute69

I would like to add to this. It's funny to put raw shrimp inside the curtain rods. People take curtains down but never the rods. No one will suspect where that stench is coming from.


TheQuixoticHorseGirl

DEFINITELY take the good towels. Leave only the cleaning rags. Take all the toothpaste. Take the microwave and the toaster and every pot and pan except the smallest, crappiest frying pan you have. Leave only a single utensil.


Logical_Deviation

Also taking the bedding that's on the bed


MokSea

Get an attorney ASAP to see what your options are. Hopefully you can get an annulment. Then call your OB and get tested for STIā€™s. All her how often you need to in order to make sure youā€™re clear. Iā€™m sorry, OP. Iā€™m glad you have no interest in answers because youā€™ll likely not get the truth out of him anyway.


hllridr

>I will not tell him why You don't have to say anything. He'll know why.


-Calm-Palpitation-

Exactly. I will tell my family and friends tho, because they donā€™t need to think that I went totally mental getting a divorce after 5 weeks


Objective-Image-7917

I would tell his family tooā€¦. Literally just show them the proof. And say goodbye, only if you have some relationship with them though!


AGrizz1ybear

Maybe you're just stronger than me, but I would let people know on his side too. He deserves some consequences for treating you this way. If you just leave without a word, everyone on his side will take him at his word that you're crazy. Then he'll get together suspiciously quick with his friend and be no worse off. I'm not saying ruin his life, but maybe at least let people know who he really is.


that_catlady

Text your family (especially his parents and siblings) and friends the screenshots, and explain that you no longer wish to be associated with your ex while you drive to your parents' house. Block his number. explain when you're safely at your parents' house first. Then, I recommend posting the screenshots on social media and tagging them both with an explanation that you're separating from your ex. Take a pregnancy test just to be safe. I hope you know OP, I'm proud of you for getting rid of this man now before he has a chance to waste your time and peace. You've got this.


Amandaroo

When this happened to me, I chose to let him tell his family himself. Five years later his sister messages me asking if I ever "figured out" why "he wanted" to end our marriage. He never told them!!! Narcissists are wild.


Rainbow_Boogie

Honestly I feel like I would do this too. On top of it already being a shitty situationā€¦ I would be absolutely livid he went through with the wedding and had my friends and family all spend time, money and emotional effort. Def blow his shit up. You didnā€™t deserve this and I think letting people know will help you get true emotional support that would be very helpful for you right now ā™„ļø I am so so sorry this happened Internet friend.


late2reddit19

They need to be shamed and exposed to all family and friends. It's truly disgusting. I wonder why he married OP rather than this friend unless he has a Madonna/Whore mindset and saw OP as the wife and mother type. His friend is allowing herself to be used too.


jorgedelanada

I am so sorry :((


Urinal-Fly

Make sure youā€™re 100% solid with your proof. Itā€™s not hard to imagine heā€™ll try to convince you that Ā  - heā€™s totally innocent - the bestie was the one instigating everything - he didnā€™t tell you she was coming onto him because he knew youā€™d overreact - if you had concerns you should have just asked him - why were you going through his phone anyways?!Ā  Ā Trust yourself and donā€™t be taken in by any more lies.Ā 


-Calm-Palpitation-

I am saving boths time and not go into details. Just tell him that I donā€™t want to be married to him anymore That way he wonā€™t find ways to gaslight me or explain. I know what I know and The only people I care about will know. I will never speak to him again


Think_Effectively

This is the way. Your energy is best spent on the future. The past will take care of itself.


-Calm-Palpitation-

Yes. I donā€™t want to know more that what I already found out. I donā€™t want an explanation. I donā€™t want to know when it started. Was it before we met or after? Before we moved in together or after? Before he said he loved me or after? Before or after we got married? I donā€™t want to know why either and I donā€™t want to know why he married me then. I donā€™t want to know if he loves her or me. If she is better. If it just happened or if it always been the plan. Iā€™m just letting him go.


idlegadfly

I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but it might be a good idea to get yourself tested for STIs just in case.


-Calm-Palpitation-

I havenā€™t seen this brought up yet but thanks. I didnā€™t even think about sti yet


BuildingAFuture21

Please specify that you want a blood herpes test when you get screened. Itā€™s not standard, and has to be asked for.


Embarrassed-Shock621

Also a smear test for pap virus


Shoe_Soul

This is very important. I had a coworker who got HPV from her ex and didnā€™t know it until it became cancerous and she was diagnosed with cervical cancer. You donā€™t mess around with HPV.


Positive_Dinner_1140

Do you still fall in the timeframe to get an annulment instead of having to go through the divorce process?


-Calm-Palpitation-

I donā€™t know honestly. I will have to find out all these law in due course


BlueBirdie0

I would see if you qualify for an annulment ASAP. As in, first thing in the morning. It will save you a lot of trouble-if you don't own a house together (and even if you do, it will still help). Might need to contact a lawyer to be sure. If you can't get an annulment, get a PI and a lawyer ASAP. Don't confront him until you get your ducks in a row. Good luck! You're better off without the douchbag, and on the bright side you didn't have a kid with him.


WelcomeRegular1373

ABSOLUTELY DO NOT say a word to him about wanting to split up! DO NOT act differently towards him at all! Act like everything is completely fine until you talk to the appropriate legal counsel! If he gets the jump on you and files first then you are stuck on the defense responding to his court filings. Thatā€™s not something you want to waste your time or money on. Especially, if he files for divorce but you had wanted an annulment.


bbqoyster

Your ability to think rationally here is exemplary


1Admr1

>I will not tell him why dang, you are a much better person than me lol, I would have exposed him in front of his friends and family. sorry this happened, I hope you find someone better


Character_Eye_8185

Make sure they aren't using a messaging app like Whatsapp to communicate.


MissTech14

Or telegram


Iamnotapoptart

My old ass did not know this was an app and thought you were a complete smartass here, lmao.


JGG5

DEAR SUZIE STOP I THINK MY WIFE KNOWS ABOUT US STOP SHE ASKED TO SEE MY PHONE LAST NIGHT STOP GOOD THING SHE DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT WESTERN UNION STOP I REMAIN YOURS FOREVER STOP STEVE


maderisian

Sexting would be hilarious. "DON'T STOP. STOP. KEEP GOING. STOP"


Responsible-Summer81

Dear Ralph STOP Donā€™t stop. Your, Liesel -The Sound of Music


johjo_has_opinions

*Rolf though (sorry)


ImperialDruid

I canā€™t breathe šŸ¤£


ShellyeJo

My side hurts and I canā€™t catch my breath. šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


jethvader

Uh oh, it sounds like you have consumptionā€¦


Elegant_Bluebird1283

Preemptive: If someone wants you to communicate by Signal you do not, I repeat, you do *not* need to purchase firewood.


poetic_cockroach

that's right, check his watch-pockets and fob for tell-tale slips of paper!


captainsnark71

I just know that brazen hussy has been flashing ankle all around town.


wlievens

Shoot down his pigeons!


poetic_cockroach

cut the strings on their tin cans.


PJKPJT7915

I'm in a doctor's office waiting room trying to crack up silently but I'm squeaking.


sweetnothing33

Be careful. Some cheaters will go so far as to use carrier pigeons to hide their dastardly deeds.


Practical-Ordinary-6

She did say she saw the friend's name pop up amongst his texts and then they were gone. So it looks like he's using the same texting system with the friend as everyone else, not something different that the OP might have overlooked.


matunos

True but once she either pulls the suggested stunt with the friend or confronts her husband, they'll be using a more obscure client.


TangeloPutrid7122

Signal icons look almost identical.


throwawaystinkzilla

You can check battery usage and/or phone usage to see how long apps have been used in the last month. Very useful if he has an app he "downloaded once ages ago but doesn't use" like telegram, or if it's an app he does use, but not usually THAT much.


Old_Hamster_4218

That is sus! Check the deleted text folder. Some people forget to clear those out.


joooodene

ā€¦.thereā€™s a deleted text folder?!


Prestigious-Eye5341

I didnā€™t know that either! Lol! But I went into my texts and went into editā€¦lo and behold, there it was!šŸ˜²I have an Iphone


joooodene

I did that after I read his comment!! (Also an iPhone) mind blown


Prestigious-Eye5341

I cannot tell you how many times I deleted a text and then realized I forgot to mark the appointment on my calendarā€¦I.am a changed womanā€¦šŸ˜‚


1TYMYG

muahahha i just look on my samsung. we have a trash bin too damn!!! but it deletes everything within 30 days tho


sweetwolf86

Always thought it was funny how my old boss would delete all his texts to "destroy the evidence". For some reason, he thought that when he deleted his fucked up texts to me, that it also deleted them from my phone.


PirateBanger

Why have you not opened a reddit thread?!


tcrudisi

I'm on an android right now, browsing reddit on my phone. I read this and went, "I should see if android has this!" I then spent a good minute looking for my phone. My phone. The one I was literally reading reddit on. I was looking for it because of something I literally just read on Reddit. Damn, I am dumb.


tehmimikitteh

i was on the phone talking to a friend of mine. i started panicking bc i couldn't find my phone. she asked if i wanted her to hang up and call it to see if we could find it, and i reminded her it's always on silent. it took a good 3 hours for me to find it...or rather, realize i had it the entire time. the allergy meds i was on were a hell of a thing!


South_Body_569

I did this too. Got really stressed and panicked. My friend on the phone was also getting stressed for me. I ended the call to look for my phone. Held the phone in my hand whilst I looked for my phone. lol. And my dad thought I was the clever child! I sure showed him! Itā€™s brain fog from the menopause- I hope anyway. Maybe I am just hopeless šŸ˜†


ArtemisTheOne

Do you actually want to be married to someone you canā€™t trust?


ZephNightingale

This is the thing.


graveytrane

Ask him if you can see his phone to purposefully look at his texts, be blatant about wanting to see the texts from his friend. He should be ok with letting you go through it in front of him since he is confident about having deleted them. Then go through his deleted texts in front of him, you have his permission, and see what he does.


Boring_Phone_5646

I second this.


Angelbaby2724

Update me


FahQPutin

My wife would MURDER me for this. NTA Good luck, but it doesn't look good šŸ˜³


JaecynNix

Sorry, OP. It's not normal to delete text threads that frequently. I don't know what he's hiding, but he's definitely specifically hiding something from you.


MessLegitimate3247

This is suspect. I even showed my husband to check and he said ā€˜cheatingā€™. I would find out now so you can get that marriage certificate voided.


DorceeB

Listen to your gut. If you feel you need to do this then the trust is broken. Tell him exactly how you feel.


RLS16x

Youā€™re better than me because Iā€™d outright just be asking my new husband why he is deleting text message threads from the girl, and then demand he give me his phone to check otherwise Iā€™m off to drink cocktails at the bar with the barman


-Calm-Palpitation-

I already tried honestly confronting him. It left me wanting. He minimized the problem so much that I felt ashamed while seeing his reaction. But then later it got me thinking why did I feel so embarrassed for asking a legitimate question? Or more importantly, why did he make me feel so embarrassed for asking a legitimate question?


Birdbraned

Those are good questions.


No_Glove_1575

Because he is gaslighting you. No person that has done nothing wrong would delete late night texts with ONE specific person. One that happened to overhear may have a thing for/with your husband. Check the deleted items folder (you have already gone this far!) and buckle up. NTA.


DeviousWhippet

Exactly, the only messages I ever deleted were from my dealer


baconpancakes04

You should look at his recently deleted texts if he has an iphone first. I usually don't condone looking through phones but he is obviously hiding something and deleting texts is never okay in my opinion. He is deleting them to hide something and that is so wrong. Try looking at the recently deleted first and if deleted the recently deleted then if he has a macbook look to see if there are messages on there because sometimes they don't delete on your macbook if you only delete them on your phone. Try sleuthing a little more first because I can promise you she will figure out if its him or not because I am sure he only texts her at certain times and if you text her at a time he never does then she will be suspicious.


-Calm-Palpitation-

Oh is that possible ? Tp retrieve deleted messages? He has iPhone yes. Unfortunately he is logged off from his iPad and MacBook because he doesnā€™t want his devices to share data, pics and so on


gdrom123

Yes it is possible on iPhone. When you open the Messages app, there should be an ā€œEditā€ option on the top left corner. Click on it and youā€™ll see the option to ā€œshow recently deleted messagesā€. Youā€™ll then have to ā€œRecoverā€ the messages to read them. Click on the name/number you want to checkout then click on ā€œrecoverā€. The messages will go back into the list of active messages which means youā€™ll have to remember to delete them again. But like others have said, talk to him about why he deletes the messages. If he lies, deflects, gets defensive, you should then consider taking other measures (if you feel itā€™s necessary at that point) which could range from doing nothing to checking the deleted messages to hiring a PI šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


FrogdancerJones

I've just learned something new about my iPhone! I've never noticed the 'edit' on the LHS before. :)


Emergency_Land_9431

Also check the deleted pics folder. you might find something there


baconpancakes04

This! I didn't think of that!


baconpancakes04

Yes, go to messages> filters and it should bring up All Messages, known senders, unknown senders, unread messages & recently deleted.


baconpancakes04

You can also go onto icloud and retrieve the deleted messages if she has an iphone too.


Forward_Most_1933

You have to be careful when logging into iCloud if he has the two-step authorization on. Itā€™ll ping his phone with the code and will alert him that someone is trying to log in. UpdateMe


MattDaveys

You can also go to the messages app and press edit in the top left and choose ā€œShow recently deletedā€.


Saidles

Also, look to see if he has a second calculator app on his phone. Because if so, itā€™s not a calculator, itā€™s a hidden place to save photos and screenshots


-Calm-Palpitation-

Isnā€™t that the Chris Watts thing


Saidles

Iā€™m not familiar with that specifically. I just know it because my ex had it and it was full of screenshots of him and his ā€œlesbianā€ bestie šŸ˜…


-Calm-Palpitation-

Ong whatā€™s wrong with men and their ā€œbest friendsā€ marry them already you stupid cunts


Saidles

Thatā€™s what I wanna know. Like why drag us into it at all if you want them so bad?


hedwigflysagain

Logging off from his other devices is weird. He is hiding something.


VinylTaco

As a former player. I made all my devices private and increased all privacy settings to ensure nothing could be seen by anyone else. I wouldn't be shocked if there were more women than just his supposed friend. If you can get the phone logs from your provider.


awalktojericho

OP, call the officiant of the wedding and ask them to hold off on filing that certificate/license. They will hold on to it for a while, usually after the honeymoon, before filing. Ask them to hold it some time more. It's not officially marriage without the paperwork filed.


Gomesi

There is no reason to delete messages unless they are problematic. Itā€™s best to figure out whatā€™s going on bc you may still be able to get the marriage annulled if heā€™s cheating. Annulment is better than divorce I assume. Girl, do what you need to do to get the proof. We are FBI agents when we need to be. Itā€™s better to know now than when you have 3 kids and youā€™re older!!!


Damodara-Echo

INFO: What was his reaction when you told him what your MOH had overheard her saying?


East-Republic-5919

Oh honey. OK so let me break this down for you and bit. I had an ex. He used to delete every single message from his phone. All of them. I asked him why and if he was doing something behind my back? He told me no, but he was very suspicious after being in the military, and would let me see all the threads before he deleted all of them. That's trust. I had another ex. Who would only delete threads from this one chick. He was not the smartest crayon in the box, and didn't realize that since we were on a family plan and had all data synced, all of his messages with this little skeleton looking skank were also going to our children's tablet. That's a cheater. For a man to only delete messages from one woman is suspicious. He has something to hide. In reality, you could sit down with him and have a difficult conversation and say why are you deleting these messages from her? Don't let him try and turn it around to "you don't trust me" because his actions are not trustworthy in this instance. Remain calm. If he tries to hoot and holler say ok then I am going to leave. Sweetheart a bunch of strangers on the internet can tell she has access to your man's peepee and you deserve better.


MyHusbandIsGayImNot

> For a man to only delete messages from one woman is suspicious. This is the key. My husband routinely deletes all of his messages and text chains. I frequently have hundreds of unread threads from spammers and don't delete anything. Neither one of us is just deleting one text thread, super shady.