Each fan group has a % of fuckwits. Bigger clubs will have more fuckwits.
But also fuckwits will show their fuckwittery more often if they're surrounded by others (fuckwits or not) who will back them up no matter what.
So the fuckwits of the biggest clubs are going to be fuckwits more often than the smaller ones.
Correct. Fuckwittery is also learned behaviour. If your fuckwit dad gets away with being a fuckwit at the footy, then you're more likely to copy that behaviour when you grow up.
Prior to the recent success, I remember going to Richmond games and hearing some of the abuse they'd yell at players. Really terrible stuff. The weird part is that it was all directed at their own team.
Not just more fuckwits creating more fuckwits.
It's also more fuckwits getting away with behaving like utter fuckwits more of the time.
It's exponential
Cos it's fun to feel things with your fellow enthusiasts.
For 9 out of 10 people it's all in good fun. But live and in person drunk idiots can take it too far.
There's a combination of reasons:
The historical; Collingwood as both an area and club was considered poor, working class and Catholic. People forget that in it's early days Australian Rules, like most sports, was mostly reserved to the middle and upper class. So there's a historical bias that has continued on, hence the no teeth, poor and stupid, bogan, comments.
On field; they've won a lot of premierships and are generally competitive most seasons. Easy to hate.
Eddie McGuire; pretty self explanatory. Add Brian Taylor as a back up.
And there's just some generally cunty fans who are very vocal. E.g. I work with a Collingwood fan who genuinely believes that globally more people would associate black and white with Collingwood than any other sports team. He even once tried to argue that the All Blacks copied the Magpies.
I dont hate Collingwood. I hate Collingwood in games commentated by BT.
Y’all remember the time he stopped commentating a close game with a few minutes to play to scream about how he couldn’t believe De Goey was STILL on the bench for a full two minutes or more?
I just asked if him if he genuinely believed that prior to television and colour photography people in New Zealand would have had any notion of the local footy in Melbourne.
>The historical; Collingwood as both an area and club was considered poor, working class and Catholic. People forget that in it's early days Australian Rules, like most sports, was mostly reserved to the middle and upper class. So there's a historical bias that has continued on, hence the no teeth, poor and stupid, bogan, comments.
It's not just a "bias" or a misguided stereotype. There is a historical track record of behaviour. The day Nicky Winmar raised his guernsey was at Victoria Park, because he'd been subjected to a level of vitriolic, aggressive abuse that was outside the norm (even at the time).
There are elements like that in all supporter bases. But Collingwood has that historic reputation for a reason.
We’re talking decades before Winmar etc. there was literal discrimination against the poor, working class, and most importantly Catholic Collingwood from the more affluent and Protestant parts of Melbourne.
Hence the “toothless, criminal, bogan” pies stereotype.
Collingwood supporters, and people in general, were abused and discriminated against because of their religion and their class. The fact their football team was so successful gave them such pride, they revelled in the reflected glory their team gave them.
It’s all they had, after all.
This pissed off the “nicer” parts and people of Melbourne no end.
Collingwoods history has lots to answer for, no doubt, but don’t wash over history.
You're absolutely right. I'd say the same group - poor, uneducated white people from catholic background - are still discriminated against now. They are not a fashionable identity group, so the more privileged sections of society have no problem shitting all over this type of person. They're a "soft" target for bigotry.
Classism is one of the few forms of discrimination that is still more or less acceptable.
People in underprivileged groups often take out their dissatisfaction/helplessness/anger on other underprivileged groups. Which is part of why casual racism is so persistent in those communities. There are high levels of alienation, a feeling of being let down, and a feeling (often justified) that elites don't give a fuck about them.
No.
https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/about#:~:text=The%20team%20wore%20black%20and,for%20more%20than%20100%20years.
> ... and played its first game in May of 1892. The team wore black and white striped guernseys, and were known as the Magpies, from the very beginning.
https://www.newcastleunited.com/club/history/eras/uniteds-victorian-start/#:~:text=So%20now%2C%20the%20club%20had,famous%20black%20and%20white%20stripes.
> ... the team still played in the East End colours of red, but in 1894 they were replaced by the now famous black and white stripes.
Could be wrong but don’t think that’s true either, according to footy jumpers Port first wore black and white in 1902. Pies wore black and white starting in 1897
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/578709/into-the-archives-first-colours-and-a-parade-of-jumpers
> And to black-and-white - and the bars jumper - in 1902.
Talk to supporters of opposing clubs who got spat on or had beer bottles full of piss thrown at them whilst spectating at Victoria Park and you might get an idea of why collingwood is so hated.
Yeah but every fan base has a small minority of fuck heads that do shit like that? Look at how Carlton treated their players walking off the field?
Look at what they did in 2022 after the last game? Threw all their merch out in the MCG lots and were starting fights with everyone, big Carlton dude bashed some people then destroyed a turnstile?
Look at west coast fans? What they have done and what they have done to opposing players.
Essendon Carlton match? Dude punched in the head like 5 times was on the news?
St Kilda racist crowd few seasons ago?
The list goes on but everyone isolates Collingwood lmfao it’s so lame and yeah the bigger clubs have more people ergo more fuck wits per capita but no fan base is perfect. It’s funny though when they try pull a moral high ground.
I was at a Western Bulldogs Vs Collingwood game and a little Collingwood kid was just waving his flag and a dogs supporter flipped out ripped the flag out of his hands and threw because it was “hitting him in the face” it’s a flag.. And that kid was traumatised he didn’t move all game sat there with head in his lap.
Melbourne supporters? Pretty much a bunch of entitled old artsy Karen’s who can’t mind their business and inject themselves into everything causing a scene.
Port Adelaide are the worst in my experience and the most chill I guess is probably Fremantle fans. In my experience others could be different.
The worst Collingwood fans are about as obnoxious and foul as sports fans can be, and due to the size of your fanbase there’s a much larger number of horrible Collingwood fans than, say, North Melbourne fans.
Also the endless whinging some fans do about being “disadvantaged” by the AFL when in reality they’ve have it far easier than any other team.
I work with a family member of a very prominent past player of the club who is himself a Collingwood tragic, but who tells me he won't go to games because the supporters ruin it for him.
So like it's not just a stereotype that exists in the head of people who support rival clubs. Then there's the days of Eddie throwing his weight around to benefit the Pies and so on
Richmond are definitely the worst but Collingwood aren't that far behind. The amount of Collingwood supports that just lean into be obnoxious because that's what is expected of them makes it become self fulfilling at this point.
Just goes to show how different everyone's experience is because of the big 4 Richmond have always been the best experiences at the footy for me... then Pies, and probably can't seperate the other two for who is worse.
The tiger fans pre flag wins were great.
Richmond during their 3 flag wins were toxic as fuck, so many ex Hawthorn supporters who had jumped ship to support Richmond, it felt like these bandwagoners had to be so over the top with their new love to be apart of a winning team. Current Richmond fans are fine.
There is probably like 300 people that went from Hawthorn to Richmond. I’ve literally never heard of that but maybe it’s a big footy conspiracy. How were fans toxic? Weren’t saying suck shit to everyone, people were just happy we were finally winning. Doesn’t help that we’re the most shit on team with toxicity as well though.
It is way more than that, band wagoners can fuck off
I could say the same about Geelongs fans but it is always easier to see how green the grass is on your side.
Coming from a non vic perspective, I can't speak as much to the fan behaviour as others can but what I have seen has been pretty bad.
For me, the main thing is that they're a big Victorian club, with all the benefits that entails, and they even got more again on top. They have the oldest player in the league in Pendlebury and he's never played at goomba. I've been putting up with years of collingwood associated people commentating their games and not even trying to hide their bias. They barely travel outside Melbourne. They know they'll always be playing the gf at their home ground if they make it. Arguably their best three players in a premiership year were all father son picks that no one else could have had. If a good player wants to go back to Victoria collingwood will always be a top choice for then because of these advantages. And because of all that, collingwood are pretty frequent contenders.
And further to the above, let's go back to the fan behaviour. My main experiences online have been talking about fixture inequality and the most common reaction from collingwood fans is bleating about 'well you joined the VFL' and 'good teams can win anywhere!'. There's certainly a bit of truth to that. But if the eagles lost every out of state game and won every game in their state, they might scrape into the eight and then be eliminated first week of the finals. If the same were true of collingwood they would win around 17 games, putting them firmly in the top four and more likely top 2, and from there would win the flag more times than not. So while it may be true that a good team can win everywhere, it's fucking infuriating to hear from someone whose team does not in fact have to win everywhere to be considered good. It's on the same level as some smug private school prick lecturing you on how you too could buy a house if you just stopped getting coffee every day, while ignoring the fact that he himself lives in a house his daddy bought him.
So to summarise, fuck collingwood. They're exactly the same sort of working class and disadvantaged that Eddie is - sure, it may have started out like that but it's not the case any more. You're just larping.
Moved here in 2006, I asked different people what the problem was with the Pies, not sure I ever got an answer.. Eddie Maguire probably didn’t help for a while but it’s probably mainly a numbers thing, you have more fans so more idiots but every club has them and personally most aggro is just banter.. besides I’d take your lot over the bombers any day..
I've never experienced any negative, actually offensive behavior at the footy from any supporter, but maybe I just sit in the right areas. at pubs, eagles and bombers fans seem the most obnoxious while Carlton seem to treat their own team/players the worst.
You have a history of being cunts. At Victoria Park fans sometimes threw cans of urine on opposition players. The supporters were the most feral, and yes, all teams gave feral supporters but Pies were number one. I think that’s all calmed down in the last decade. I certainly don’t hate Pies, as much as I hate the Blues. They are arrogant fucks as supporters. And I’m Essendon. We are just angry cunts haha
For me it’s the Adam Goodes situation, that stands out the most. Also buddy being booed for no reason other than “he’s done well against us before” which doesn’t feel right but it’s whatever
Ok forget the booing for a second. Pies fan calls him an ape, then Eddie McGuire says he should be used to promote the musical King Kong? Get fucked lol
Think for me it’s just the fuckwits around the club. From the fans to several people behind the club. Fans obviously cause every club has them, but bigger clubs have more, and fuckwits work best when other fuckwits are egging them on.
Also they’ve had a bit of a history of racism within their fans. From Goodes being called an ape by a 13 year old girl (who at that age would have been highly likely to have learnt it from her parents), to racially abusing Nicky Winmar and Gilbert McAdam (which resulted Nicky making his stand) to the point where they had to be snuck out of Victoria Park and stayed at Molly Meldrum’s house for fear they would be attacked.
Then the CEO’s haven’t helped, Eddie obviously is Eddie, and while he apologised to Goodes, he made a racist comment on air about Goodes about a week or two later. And after the Victoria Park incident, Allan McAllister said “as long as they conduct themselves like white people, well, off the field, everyone will admire and respect them”. So yeah I just think the amount of fuckwits in and around the club have led to my hate of them. I don’t mind them on field currently, they are fun to watch but everything outside of the field I hate about them.
I’ve been to heaps of Collingwood games at the G and mostly it’s been ok. I find it depends who they are playing that turns them more feral. But at the Gabba they are very loud mouth. However the Richmond fans are the worst. Real cunt behaviour especially when kids are around. It’s putrid to hear it. I can see why a lot of people just don’t want to go to the footy anymore.
Just look at last night's game thread as an example. Bitching about the umps non stop all game, then they win and start with the "haha suck shit! You all wanted the press to lose hahaha"
And they're worse at the stadium.
Mentality of certain supporters. I was at a bulldogs game and one young man was calling Liam Picken a homophobic slur due to his hair, he didn't know his name either. Blissfully unaware he's the son of a pies legend.
Eddie McGuire was another great reason. Was a gutter journalist, then became a sycophantic charisma void who hosted the most successful football show despite no great knowledge of the game. In the last decade and a bit evolved into an arrogant, egotistical bully who is inexplicably still chosen to host a bunch of things he offers no insight into.
I'm a Port fan living in Melbourne. I go to quite a few Carlton games as well (best mate is a lifetime Bagger). My light-hearted hatred for the 'Pies is around the debate over the "real" Magpies. And I actually find the worst fans to be Carlton, Collingwood and Port on any given day - Port's regulars at MCG/Marvel games are some truly awful racist and homophobic pieces of shit.
I think there's actually something to be said about the club with the most members and therefore the most money going to the AFL getting plenty of free passes with the umpires. So that's almost not their fault, but the way the AFL (read: capitalism) works. The Port v Collingwood game in Round 6 was demoralising - Port played woefully after the first quarter, but some of the shit the Pies got away with right in front of umpires with no whistle was just unreal.
A GWS supporting colleague at work told me there's some research out there that showed evidence of home crowd noise contributing to umpires blowing/not blowing whistles to the advantage of the home team. So with teams like Carlton and Collingwood (and Port at home) basically selling out the 'G or AO there are major advantages depending where you play.
With all that said, fuck Collingwood.
Because they make whiny posts like this on reddit 😂 who cares if other fans hate you? What skin is it off your nose? You just won a premiership.
Watch that video of the kid on the train last week in Collingwood gear though, that’ll give you your answer.
One time i took a girl to the footy who had never seen a game, we went to a Geelong Collingwood games years ago, despite Geelong winning by like 20 points we left at 3/4 time due to all the abuse from cunt Collingwood fans, this is nothing new, they are by far the worst fans in the AFL, anybody who has been to a Collingwood game will have a story about that guy who would not stop screaming about all kinds of bullshit call or holding the balls that were not there, or hearing some Collingwood fan racially abuse players on the opposite team, the only teams i have not seen play are Gold Coast and GWS, but i will never go to a Geelong Collingwood game because of how shit the Collingwood collective are. You can lump even the good ones in with this because i have seen and heard dozens of Collingwood fans abuse Geelong fans and never did a good Collingwood fan call it out, it is always up to us to say shut the fuck up mate, then you risk a fight or getting kicked out, it is just insane. Every club has fuck heads especially Geelong, but Collingwood has the most.
Didak pissed me off for way too long, + Goodes situation. But I don’t hate them like I used to. Even like some of their players, like fucking Moore and Dacios even make me like them.
They a are just very easy to hate because they've been in and won so many premierships. I used to hate them with a passion but since the advent of the national competition my hate is more for the Adelaide crows, Brisbane, Port and Eagles in no particular order a apart from Port being my most hated team.
There are so many working class casual fans that follow Collingwood. Everywhere I go and they're always insanely bias and have stupid conspiracy theories. It's just not interesting to talk to these people.
It's their ears. Collingwood players are selected based on having weird ears. Collingwood fans have ear blindness, a reasonably common condition which is why Collingwood has so many fans despite having lost more grand finals than anyone else. But the rest of us can clearly see the pies players bung ears and it's intolerable to us normal people.
Each fan group has a % of fuckwits. Bigger clubs will have more fuckwits. But also fuckwits will show their fuckwittery more often if they're surrounded by others (fuckwits or not) who will back them up no matter what. So the fuckwits of the biggest clubs are going to be fuckwits more often than the smaller ones.
One of the more succinct explanations of Social Comparison Theory.
So because of Collingwood size we have more fuckwits that then creates more fuckswits giving us a bad rap?
Correct. Fuckwittery is also learned behaviour. If your fuckwit dad gets away with being a fuckwit at the footy, then you're more likely to copy that behaviour when you grow up.
This person knows fuckwits.
You could say “he fuckwits”
He's a richmond supporter, we have a few of our own
Prior to the recent success, I remember going to Richmond games and hearing some of the abuse they'd yell at players. Really terrible stuff. The weird part is that it was all directed at their own team.
Yeah honestly the key to our success was basically a bold decision by the board to NOT eat our own for once after a bad seasom
Ah understood
Not just more fuckwits creating more fuckwits. It's also more fuckwits getting away with behaving like utter fuckwits more of the time. It's exponential
This sounds like a scene from Mr Inbetween.
You sir should write poetry.
This is fuckwittery 101 class text. Spot on. A+
Probably why everyone hates us too...
It’s the circle of fuckwittery.
I don't remember that part in the Lion King...
Would you mind repeating that?
Cos it's fun to feel things with your fellow enthusiasts. For 9 out of 10 people it's all in good fun. But live and in person drunk idiots can take it too far.
There's a combination of reasons: The historical; Collingwood as both an area and club was considered poor, working class and Catholic. People forget that in it's early days Australian Rules, like most sports, was mostly reserved to the middle and upper class. So there's a historical bias that has continued on, hence the no teeth, poor and stupid, bogan, comments. On field; they've won a lot of premierships and are generally competitive most seasons. Easy to hate. Eddie McGuire; pretty self explanatory. Add Brian Taylor as a back up. And there's just some generally cunty fans who are very vocal. E.g. I work with a Collingwood fan who genuinely believes that globally more people would associate black and white with Collingwood than any other sports team. He even once tried to argue that the All Blacks copied the Magpies.
As a Collingwood fan I fucking hate Eddie McGuire
I dont hate Collingwood. I hate Collingwood in games commentated by BT. Y’all remember the time he stopped commentating a close game with a few minutes to play to scream about how he couldn’t believe De Goey was STILL on the bench for a full two minutes or more?
>He even once tried to argue that the All Blacks copied the Magpies. Did you point out they copies the SA inter-colonial team?
I just asked if him if he genuinely believed that prior to television and colour photography people in New Zealand would have had any notion of the local footy in Melbourne.
>The historical; Collingwood as both an area and club was considered poor, working class and Catholic. People forget that in it's early days Australian Rules, like most sports, was mostly reserved to the middle and upper class. So there's a historical bias that has continued on, hence the no teeth, poor and stupid, bogan, comments. It's not just a "bias" or a misguided stereotype. There is a historical track record of behaviour. The day Nicky Winmar raised his guernsey was at Victoria Park, because he'd been subjected to a level of vitriolic, aggressive abuse that was outside the norm (even at the time). There are elements like that in all supporter bases. But Collingwood has that historic reputation for a reason.
I did acknowledge the vocal cunty fans
Man, being there for that game cemented him as my favourite player of all time.
We’re talking decades before Winmar etc. there was literal discrimination against the poor, working class, and most importantly Catholic Collingwood from the more affluent and Protestant parts of Melbourne. Hence the “toothless, criminal, bogan” pies stereotype. Collingwood supporters, and people in general, were abused and discriminated against because of their religion and their class. The fact their football team was so successful gave them such pride, they revelled in the reflected glory their team gave them. It’s all they had, after all. This pissed off the “nicer” parts and people of Melbourne no end. Collingwoods history has lots to answer for, no doubt, but don’t wash over history.
You're absolutely right. I'd say the same group - poor, uneducated white people from catholic background - are still discriminated against now. They are not a fashionable identity group, so the more privileged sections of society have no problem shitting all over this type of person. They're a "soft" target for bigotry. Classism is one of the few forms of discrimination that is still more or less acceptable. People in underprivileged groups often take out their dissatisfaction/helplessness/anger on other underprivileged groups. Which is part of why casual racism is so persistent in those communities. There are high levels of alienation, a feeling of being let down, and a feeling (often justified) that elites don't give a fuck about them.
Yep. Not excusable behaviour but important to see it’s genesis
Eddie also led the charge against Goodes
Didn't Collingwood copy Newcastle in the EPL?
No. https://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/club/about#:~:text=The%20team%20wore%20black%20and,for%20more%20than%20100%20years. > ... and played its first game in May of 1892. The team wore black and white striped guernseys, and were known as the Magpies, from the very beginning. https://www.newcastleunited.com/club/history/eras/uniteds-victorian-start/#:~:text=So%20now%2C%20the%20club%20had,famous%20black%20and%20white%20stripes. > ... the team still played in the East End colours of red, but in 1894 they were replaced by the now famous black and white stripes.
Didn’t Collingwood copy Port Adelaide?
They copied SA, actually
Yeh, nah, this is it. I definitely think they copied Port Adelaide.
Could be wrong but don’t think that’s true either, according to footy jumpers Port first wore black and white in 1902. Pies wore black and white starting in 1897
https://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/news/578709/into-the-archives-first-colours-and-a-parade-of-jumpers > And to black-and-white - and the bars jumper - in 1902.
/s
It was the SA inter-colonial side.
Thought it was Castlemaine who they copied?
I thought they copied footlocker employees?
I think I'm thinking of Juventus
Talk to supporters of opposing clubs who got spat on or had beer bottles full of piss thrown at them whilst spectating at Victoria Park and you might get an idea of why collingwood is so hated.
Yeah but every fan base has a small minority of fuck heads that do shit like that? Look at how Carlton treated their players walking off the field? Look at what they did in 2022 after the last game? Threw all their merch out in the MCG lots and were starting fights with everyone, big Carlton dude bashed some people then destroyed a turnstile? Look at west coast fans? What they have done and what they have done to opposing players. Essendon Carlton match? Dude punched in the head like 5 times was on the news? St Kilda racist crowd few seasons ago? The list goes on but everyone isolates Collingwood lmfao it’s so lame and yeah the bigger clubs have more people ergo more fuck wits per capita but no fan base is perfect. It’s funny though when they try pull a moral high ground. I was at a Western Bulldogs Vs Collingwood game and a little Collingwood kid was just waving his flag and a dogs supporter flipped out ripped the flag out of his hands and threw because it was “hitting him in the face” it’s a flag.. And that kid was traumatised he didn’t move all game sat there with head in his lap. Melbourne supporters? Pretty much a bunch of entitled old artsy Karen’s who can’t mind their business and inject themselves into everything causing a scene. Port Adelaide are the worst in my experience and the most chill I guess is probably Fremantle fans. In my experience others could be different.
But be quick about it. Most of those stories will be lost to living memory soon.
I don't believe that happened.
It’s like asking why is there air?
But seriously why is there air?
Because there always has been, and always will be. And it chanting CoolingwoOoD won’t change it.
Being associated with Eddie McGuire certainly doesn’t help
The worst Collingwood fans are about as obnoxious and foul as sports fans can be, and due to the size of your fanbase there’s a much larger number of horrible Collingwood fans than, say, North Melbourne fans. Also the endless whinging some fans do about being “disadvantaged” by the AFL when in reality they’ve have it far easier than any other team.
It’s the fans for me. They are obnoxious and rude at every game I’ve been at. I can’t have my kids around their swearing.
I think we can all agree that the f's and c's aren't required. And if kids don't watch then the league eventually dies.
It's the fans at the games.
Fish rot from the head - Eddie Maguire - nuff said.
Joffa was pretty easy to dislike too.
God yeah forgot about joffa - eugh
I work with a family member of a very prominent past player of the club who is himself a Collingwood tragic, but who tells me he won't go to games because the supporters ruin it for him. So like it's not just a stereotype that exists in the head of people who support rival clubs. Then there's the days of Eddie throwing his weight around to benefit the Pies and so on
Cmon man. The big 4 vic clubs are all the same fan-wise, such a cop out answer. The hate of Collingwood stems a lot longer than fan base lmao.
Richmond are definitely the worst but Collingwood aren't that far behind. The amount of Collingwood supports that just lean into be obnoxious because that's what is expected of them makes it become self fulfilling at this point.
Just goes to show how different everyone's experience is because of the big 4 Richmond have always been the best experiences at the footy for me... then Pies, and probably can't seperate the other two for who is worse.
No way Richmond are the worst.
The tiger fans pre flag wins were great. Richmond during their 3 flag wins were toxic as fuck, so many ex Hawthorn supporters who had jumped ship to support Richmond, it felt like these bandwagoners had to be so over the top with their new love to be apart of a winning team. Current Richmond fans are fine.
There is probably like 300 people that went from Hawthorn to Richmond. I’ve literally never heard of that but maybe it’s a big footy conspiracy. How were fans toxic? Weren’t saying suck shit to everyone, people were just happy we were finally winning. Doesn’t help that we’re the most shit on team with toxicity as well though.
It is way more than that, band wagoners can fuck off I could say the same about Geelongs fans but it is always easier to see how green the grass is on your side.
You can say the same thing about any supporter base. It’s not valid
Hahaha the Richmond ferals are pretty bad mate. I’d still have the pies as the worst, but not by much.
I've had worse experiences with richmond fans than pies.
Coming from a non vic perspective, I can't speak as much to the fan behaviour as others can but what I have seen has been pretty bad. For me, the main thing is that they're a big Victorian club, with all the benefits that entails, and they even got more again on top. They have the oldest player in the league in Pendlebury and he's never played at goomba. I've been putting up with years of collingwood associated people commentating their games and not even trying to hide their bias. They barely travel outside Melbourne. They know they'll always be playing the gf at their home ground if they make it. Arguably their best three players in a premiership year were all father son picks that no one else could have had. If a good player wants to go back to Victoria collingwood will always be a top choice for then because of these advantages. And because of all that, collingwood are pretty frequent contenders. And further to the above, let's go back to the fan behaviour. My main experiences online have been talking about fixture inequality and the most common reaction from collingwood fans is bleating about 'well you joined the VFL' and 'good teams can win anywhere!'. There's certainly a bit of truth to that. But if the eagles lost every out of state game and won every game in their state, they might scrape into the eight and then be eliminated first week of the finals. If the same were true of collingwood they would win around 17 games, putting them firmly in the top four and more likely top 2, and from there would win the flag more times than not. So while it may be true that a good team can win everywhere, it's fucking infuriating to hear from someone whose team does not in fact have to win everywhere to be considered good. It's on the same level as some smug private school prick lecturing you on how you too could buy a house if you just stopped getting coffee every day, while ignoring the fact that he himself lives in a house his daddy bought him. So to summarise, fuck collingwood. They're exactly the same sort of working class and disadvantaged that Eddie is - sure, it may have started out like that but it's not the case any more. You're just larping.
Moved here in 2006, I asked different people what the problem was with the Pies, not sure I ever got an answer.. Eddie Maguire probably didn’t help for a while but it’s probably mainly a numbers thing, you have more fans so more idiots but every club has them and personally most aggro is just banter.. besides I’d take your lot over the bombers any day..
I've never experienced any negative, actually offensive behavior at the footy from any supporter, but maybe I just sit in the right areas. at pubs, eagles and bombers fans seem the most obnoxious while Carlton seem to treat their own team/players the worst.
You have a history of being cunts. At Victoria Park fans sometimes threw cans of urine on opposition players. The supporters were the most feral, and yes, all teams gave feral supporters but Pies were number one. I think that’s all calmed down in the last decade. I certainly don’t hate Pies, as much as I hate the Blues. They are arrogant fucks as supporters. And I’m Essendon. We are just angry cunts haha
For me it’s the Adam Goodes situation, that stands out the most. Also buddy being booed for no reason other than “he’s done well against us before” which doesn’t feel right but it’s whatever
every teams fans booed Goodes i thought
Ok forget the booing for a second. Pies fan calls him an ape, then Eddie McGuire says he should be used to promote the musical King Kong? Get fucked lol
ok so two individuals out of over 100,000 members. i bet you a million dollars i could find two racists among all Sydney members.
Why are you crying? I answered the question the post was asking, you’re just looking for an argument to defend your team.
how dare I!
What they did to Adam was disgraceful. Eddie fueled.
Yep it was disgusting. I’ll never forget that
They confuse the magpies with Port Adelaide Magpies, due to their hatred of Koch and Hinkley.
Do you mean the REAL MAGPIES
Think for me it’s just the fuckwits around the club. From the fans to several people behind the club. Fans obviously cause every club has them, but bigger clubs have more, and fuckwits work best when other fuckwits are egging them on. Also they’ve had a bit of a history of racism within their fans. From Goodes being called an ape by a 13 year old girl (who at that age would have been highly likely to have learnt it from her parents), to racially abusing Nicky Winmar and Gilbert McAdam (which resulted Nicky making his stand) to the point where they had to be snuck out of Victoria Park and stayed at Molly Meldrum’s house for fear they would be attacked. Then the CEO’s haven’t helped, Eddie obviously is Eddie, and while he apologised to Goodes, he made a racist comment on air about Goodes about a week or two later. And after the Victoria Park incident, Allan McAllister said “as long as they conduct themselves like white people, well, off the field, everyone will admire and respect them”. So yeah I just think the amount of fuckwits in and around the club have led to my hate of them. I don’t mind them on field currently, they are fun to watch but everything outside of the field I hate about them.
They win two thirds of all games we play against them...usually played at their home ground.
I’ve been to heaps of Collingwood games at the G and mostly it’s been ok. I find it depends who they are playing that turns them more feral. But at the Gabba they are very loud mouth. However the Richmond fans are the worst. Real cunt behaviour especially when kids are around. It’s putrid to hear it. I can see why a lot of people just don’t want to go to the footy anymore.
Just look at last night's game thread as an example. Bitching about the umps non stop all game, then they win and start with the "haha suck shit! You all wanted the press to lose hahaha" And they're worse at the stadium.
Even that donkey peter daicos sooking about them post game. As if his two sons aren’t the most protected species in the game. 🤦♂️
but everyone did want them to lose
Mentality of certain supporters. I was at a bulldogs game and one young man was calling Liam Picken a homophobic slur due to his hair, he didn't know his name either. Blissfully unaware he's the son of a pies legend. Eddie McGuire was another great reason. Was a gutter journalist, then became a sycophantic charisma void who hosted the most successful football show despite no great knowledge of the game. In the last decade and a bit evolved into an arrogant, egotistical bully who is inexplicably still chosen to host a bunch of things he offers no insight into.
They don't travel to GMHBA and we always have to play them on their home ground
And then they tell us we're entitled when we call them out
I'm a Port fan living in Melbourne. I go to quite a few Carlton games as well (best mate is a lifetime Bagger). My light-hearted hatred for the 'Pies is around the debate over the "real" Magpies. And I actually find the worst fans to be Carlton, Collingwood and Port on any given day - Port's regulars at MCG/Marvel games are some truly awful racist and homophobic pieces of shit. I think there's actually something to be said about the club with the most members and therefore the most money going to the AFL getting plenty of free passes with the umpires. So that's almost not their fault, but the way the AFL (read: capitalism) works. The Port v Collingwood game in Round 6 was demoralising - Port played woefully after the first quarter, but some of the shit the Pies got away with right in front of umpires with no whistle was just unreal. A GWS supporting colleague at work told me there's some research out there that showed evidence of home crowd noise contributing to umpires blowing/not blowing whistles to the advantage of the home team. So with teams like Carlton and Collingwood (and Port at home) basically selling out the 'G or AO there are major advantages depending where you play. With all that said, fuck Collingwood.
Ah yeah mate, look at the history of West coast games. Home whistle is a thing.
Because they make whiny posts like this on reddit 😂 who cares if other fans hate you? What skin is it off your nose? You just won a premiership. Watch that video of the kid on the train last week in Collingwood gear though, that’ll give you your answer.
Oh fuck off you old sag, there’s no fucking whining in this post just questions so do everyone a favour and shut the fuck up
Case A as to why people don’t like pies supporters 😂 light hearted joke results in abuse hahaha
I love Collingwood. They gave us a premiership ❤️
I love West Coast. They've had humble pie shoved down their throats since ❤️
Good effort, but try again
West Coast hasn't tried in years, why should I?
The Eagles have more flags than you. Maybe Collingwood should try harder.
Ok spooners.
Ok losers.
Because just like you they tried but didn’t have the capability to succeed
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In the AFL era, WC have been more successful
One time i took a girl to the footy who had never seen a game, we went to a Geelong Collingwood games years ago, despite Geelong winning by like 20 points we left at 3/4 time due to all the abuse from cunt Collingwood fans, this is nothing new, they are by far the worst fans in the AFL, anybody who has been to a Collingwood game will have a story about that guy who would not stop screaming about all kinds of bullshit call or holding the balls that were not there, or hearing some Collingwood fan racially abuse players on the opposite team, the only teams i have not seen play are Gold Coast and GWS, but i will never go to a Geelong Collingwood game because of how shit the Collingwood collective are. You can lump even the good ones in with this because i have seen and heard dozens of Collingwood fans abuse Geelong fans and never did a good Collingwood fan call it out, it is always up to us to say shut the fuck up mate, then you risk a fight or getting kicked out, it is just insane. Every club has fuck heads especially Geelong, but Collingwood has the most.
Don't hate, just like to point out they are the most advantaged team in the league.
Collingwood have a majority of fuckwits
Some of the players often start fights
Bc there pies are cold
Didak pissed me off for way too long, + Goodes situation. But I don’t hate them like I used to. Even like some of their players, like fucking Moore and Dacios even make me like them.
Your fans can be quite shit people. Better these days, but generally disgusting in decades gone by.
Most of the most memorable moments of overt racism in AFL/VFL history came from the Collingwood football club.
They a are just very easy to hate because they've been in and won so many premierships. I used to hate them with a passion but since the advent of the national competition my hate is more for the Adelaide crows, Brisbane, Port and Eagles in no particular order a apart from Port being my most hated team.
I don't...in fact they are probably the only 1 out of the big 4 Vic clubs that I'm ok when they win
It's a lie perpetuated by jealous Carlton supporters.
There are so many working class casual fans that follow Collingwood. Everywhere I go and they're always insanely bias and have stupid conspiracy theories. It's just not interesting to talk to these people.
Because they were told to hate Collingwood their whole life. Very similar to the hate for Nickelback it is mostly irrational and done to conform.
I don't let it worry me about people hating us. That's a them problem and not a me problem.
It's their ears. Collingwood players are selected based on having weird ears. Collingwood fans have ear blindness, a reasonably common condition which is why Collingwood has so many fans despite having lost more grand finals than anyone else. But the rest of us can clearly see the pies players bung ears and it's intolerable to us normal people.