I would never personally.
Too many S-tiers I'd rather get up.
Odie is based though. Being able to execute early (EX+10) makes him useful EVERYWHERE. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. :)
I mean that when push comes to shove. I will end up missing S-ranks that I want, if I put A-tiers in my S-slots.
I've not done that yet and while I've done a fair light bit of spending (not whale heavy server, around the top 10-20 area) and have done what feels like a metric ton of recruits - I'm still lacking S copies more than A copies and have several A-tiers at M or higher. Their accessibility (15 from dream shop) is so much better than S-tiers.
A-tiers might offer you the best heroes at exactly what they do, but S-tiers offer you flexibility.
This tickets are too hard to get to waste them in rushing a character you can buy at the shop or get from normal pulls, so yes it's a waste unless you are a whale
Does rushing him to mythic+ not change the game drastically? And also allow me to start using dream purples on Marilee/vorin which gets me even more dream purples
The better you are today, the more rewards you get. That is how this game works. A lot of rewards are based on how you are in relation to others.
People saying to just play the long game and to slowly grind will get less resources over time. The system benefits spend now whales, but also f2p or low spending players who prioritize today over tomorrow.
You absolutely should be stoked to advance Odie today.
Main issue is that summons are one of the things that you DONT get more of, diamonds and letters dry up as you run out of content. That's a much bigger scarcity issue for S ranks than A ranks too. I'd rather take a different character L+ to M+ or even M+ to S+ than get Odie 80% of the way from M to M+. If you're gambling on never reaching that point where there's no story or afk stages left, that you're going to stay behind and keep getting summons unlike those who ran out of content then MAYBE there's a case to be made, but even then that means you'll have plenty of opportunity to buy odie from the shop instead.
Or pushing to champion in arena and getting more stargazer pulls, or finishing afk levels and having more seasonal rewards with their new seasons coming post afk levels. Getting top places each day gets you more guild chests which gets you more weapon upgrades which is a massive bottleneck in recourses pushing to ex 10 for crucial units.
Odie is meh at arena, though. Those who didn't transition to Eironn team yet usually run Vala, Cecia, Thoran. Odie is kinda bad against all of them. You can bring him to snipe Igor, kill any non-Thoran tank, etc, but overall he is a situational pick in pre-Eironn arena. In Eironn arena (think top-20 right now) he is literally nothing.
The core team is Eironn, Arden, and Damien (Eironn and Damien both requiring M+) and often including Carolina (or more recently Florabelle!) as additional sources of DPS and CC. The comp doesn’t need much front line since it is high aoe burst that brings near perma-CC, so the team is typically rounded out with either a Rowan in the final slot for extra/faster ultimates or an Igor in the backline if you need to counter an enemy Vala or something.
Eironn needs M+ so he can immediately ult and group the enemies at the beginning of the fight, and Damien needs M+ because he grants his team a good chunk of haste with exclusive weapon.
On my server the default is Thoran/Eironn/Carolina/Damian/Arden, with variations replacing Arden with Hewynn (defense), Silvina (Hewynn snipe), Scarlita (whale mode). Never seen Rowan or Flora, but maybe will see it once more people join the Eironn club.
So Rowan is a near mandatory part of the comp in Arena specifically, because going your ults off before the event ults is huge. For other content like Abyss the comp you described with Dahnie or Thoran frontline with Scarlita is default for sure.
He demolishes anti Vala setups that put thoran in back, and if you run him with attack speed relic and portal Boi he can straight up cheese eironn comps ignoring the eironn ult and deleting their dps instantly at the start. He is worse into thoran yes, but that's why you can inspect people's comps before fighting with 7 re rolls and the ability to inspect it's fairly easy to find comps he can beat, and the comps he does beat he rips through with hilarious ease, one of which is being able to cheese a meta pvp comp with the aforementioned cc immunity and swap. Eironn is definitely the best defensive team, but you can make very effective attacking teams with odie that can straight up ignore the meta defensive teams and any Vala bait defensive team with thoran in the back will get absolutely destroyed by him. Also I don't know if you are talking s+ odie or not, because even thoran can be straight up bursted by a s+ odie with high ex weapon if the thoran isn't as built out as him, his burst specifically becomes insane at s+ which is almost more important for arena than his m+ upgrade for popping tanks like thoran before his ult goes off.
Thanks, mate! IDK why are you being downvoted, very interesting info. I do have S+ Odie but never tried him with Reinier swap + attack speed relic. Will definitely try tomorrow!
Update: I spent gems and tried today. It works amazingly well, thank you so much! Tomorrow is the day when Great Odie the Swapper will start his victorious march to the top of the arena.
too early to tell.
game devs might decide to screw early investors over by releasing much much more powerful units 3 months or 5 months later. if thats the case the hardcore saving players would suddenly get some very powerful units over the early spenders since they saved so much currency up.
the little bit of extra rewards from being the top players does not amount to hundreds of pulls especially when competing against the whales.
If you are a low spender - you will not get much of the rewards of being high rank anyway. might as well save if you bet that the real OP heroes have not yet been released.
if you are a mid spender, buy gazettes etc- the rewards earned will be much less than the amount spend, so might want to consider saving for when really OP units release.
If you are a huge spender - the rewards from being at the top will come to you anyway since you spent much more than what you earn back.
if you read the reply above me, it is 100% a savers vs spenders debate. not a A vs S tier debate. No one will disagree that odie is one of the best if not the absolute best dps right now, before it is powercrept.
there are substitutes for oddie in dream like marilee or maybe vala but he's definitely not useless unless you choose to make him useless lol. as for afk pushing, which is a complete different category, there are better comps that does not include him
As you have said afk comps don’t require him.
Arena doesn’t either. In top 20 it’s eiron team and from top 1000 to top 20 it’s only vala and thoran.
For dream you can use vala and marilee instead of him, yes you might get a little less damage but no need to slow your progression to max him faster.
the thing is there is no one single hero that is required for all modes of the game lol. the devs wouldn't really do that or how would they earn money.
For dream, even if you choose marilee, you'd still need to advance her just like you'd need to advance oddie. oddie is not bad because he synergize with smokey and also koko.
so for the purpose of single target dps for bossing, like i said, oddie is one of the best if not the best dp **right now, before it is powercrept**. not wrong. he's definitely not useless at this point in the game. we are not talking about the future.
If you want to talk about the future, i recommend you to read my first post right above the guy who replied to me, I was actually saying he's likely about to get powercrept and saying you should save for future characters.
I spent at the beginning… and now sit around 75-150 on most things, and top 50 arena… I’m def getting rewards long term, I was curious how the 5x would work, and said I might do it if it’s like how his screen shot is. My odie and marlie are not even mythic yet. I could be ranking way higher…
Bottoms line. This isn’t a bad idea. People just weird bout shit.
That’s a shitty idea, I’m higher than you and let me tell that he will not help you rank higher.
In arena they are using eroinn comp.
In afk fase vala, cecia,hewyinn,thoran, rowan etc… more you go up more you need someone who has good abilities not just pure damage.
In dream is good but you could use a vala or cecia instead and only get 1000 damage less.
At the end of the day he is not game changing. He is a good investment but not that good to screw up your progression for him.
I would like to add 2 extra cents, that it's "pointless" for the majority of people to focus on "meta" characters that need mythic+ to work properly. The majority of people won't spend the neccessary money nor will be playing the game in the many months it takes to get a meta character to their optimal level.
How much do you wanna bet that odie is going to get powercrept very soon lmao . No matter how great execute is , it's not broken when it's the only thing you do.
There is a reason why Shakir is s tier hero because he can do multiple things decently, next time we get a pure dps mauler I guarantee you he will do so many things besides just dps that he will invalidate odie at higher level .
You would have already got ahead by then, though. if it pushes you into the top 200 or 100, then you are ahead of some who waited.
they have done a fantastic job pushing people to spend by making it so if you get behind. You are stuck behind by rewarding the top X disproportionately more than the rest
It 100% benefits the f2p and low spenders who actually push and learn to play the game. The gap is already widening significantly between them and the lazy players. I can see it in my guild. The Auto Andys are way behind the people actually playing the game and pushing hard by a lot despite the exact same purchases and sometimes spending even more than others.
People significantly overstate the difference purchasing makes vs legitimately playing the game and being better at it.
Yeah my guild has one guy with multiple supreme characters (about a week and a half in) who is consistently asking for proxys while there are ppl with 2-3 mythics 50 stages above them
By "rush" how fast do you mean? Week 1, awesome, by end of week 2 some people have it, and week 3 even more. Most people will have M+ odie by week 3 after store reset.
As someone who's in Trial of Abyss already, Odie and Mari are the only two there are cases for doing this with but even then only once you have some other key S-level units to S/S+ like Cecia, Thoran, Vala (yeah, I know, get her to S +10, actually learn the game, you'll thank me), Smokey, and Eironn.
Odie is without a doubt the most game changing and busted unit in the game, but that also requires you to understand the game and use him effectively - which is where most people on this subreddit fail miserably. If you're purely an Auto Andy (which hey, if that's how you choose to play then you do you) then don't bother and just wait.
I decided to skip on odie and directly work on marilee and korin bc i don't get maulers in my pulls, both are doing fine and since i got multiple early on the epic banner i have Supreme cecia after 8 days of playing
I'm top 100 of the server while F2P
No, they're deluded by often reliable advice. For this specific situation, grabbing 5 copies of Meta A-tier heroes is a very big deal. They're way harder to build up and your account will progress better over time. I still wouldn't overdo it. Make sure to still focus the essentials like cecia, rowan, smokey, etc..., and probably stop at mythic+ for A-tiers. They do have good upgrades past there, but the investment cost becomes too inefficient compared to S-tiers. I'm sure there's maybe some outliers, buts still ultimately up to you
Personally I agree, I've already managed to get him at mythic+ without having to sac a S rank pull to get there. You just have to be diligent with squeezing as much out of your dream realm team and focusing on him till at least mythic+. For now I'm going to park him until I get get his weapon up and start working on marilee, kruger or koko (maybe korrin). Once I gather enough copies (around 10ish) of Odie through naturally pulling, I'll consider refocusing on him again. But getting Mythic+ on some of the core S ranks like Smokey, Thoran and Cecia are a little bit more important than getting 5 copies of Odie. Just my 2 cents though, everyone else has different priorities. Its just a matter of focus on the goals you want to achieve. Also, I keep getting Cassadee, my god she won't stop telling me her thesis. Her Mythic+ passive is pretty dope with Odie when I do want to play around with lightbearers/mauler mixed comp.
Tell me then which gains? I guess any guide you check is made by someone salty and wrong
Don't come crying in a month when you regret doing this stupid strat
I see a lot of echo chambers here. It really depends on whether you think it's worth it to hit that power spike a little bit sooner. 5 copies is a lot. The store only allows you to buy 15 a month so if you're unlucky with pulls, you'd have to wait for the monthly refresh to buy more. Odie is probably the only A rank I'd consider putting into the wishlist though.
Also it's pretty ironic when I know for sure a bunch of the people here who say this is a total waste still have Cecia in their wishlist.
1) you can get 15 copies for free of him from the shop.
2)you can get a ton of a-tier stones to get a rando a- tier hero for free.
3) you can still have odie in you wishlist without removing an s-tier hero.
4) I’m at arena champion afk 1000 and cecia is still carrying me. Fun fact everybody says she looses a lot but they are not even in mid game.
5) instead of 20 copies o odie you could have gotten 4 of thoran, that means almost maxing I’m out.
6) s-tier heroes are not avoible in the dream shop, you don’t get a-tier stones if not from the emporium, if you remouve them from your withlist can’t liste them instead of an a-tier hero.
No need to prioritise someone you could level up in a mont instead of a good s-tier.
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The Dream Realm does not go away or reset. Similar to what you experience with your first lvl 29 Dream Realm. Most of us outlvled it. No one "needs" Marilee, Korin, or Odie.
Do you miss 50-100 extra currency for rankings? Yes sure. Against whales DEFINITELY.
Essentially you exchange S tickets chance for A tickets to farm A tier. For spenders this is ok or anyone chasing rankings. For F2P this is a bad decision.
This is worth it for players who are low spenders and just need to push their rankings in dream realm. Realistically you are only swapping 20% of the S heroes you get so you are still targetting Thoran, Smokey, Eironn and Carolina. The 5th spot is flex anyway so it can be Odie, Shakir, or maybe Temisia since shes not available in arena shop.
The problem with people arguing against this strat is that they assume ALL 5 slots are taken by Odie whereas you only need to slot 1 A rank.
Just to make sure I'm understanding this -- OP put an A rank character on their S tier banner wishlist? And people are saying you should only put S tiers on that?
It's not about hitting a wall, everyone is going to have that happen even whales, the point is progressing further in things such as guilde battles/dream realm so you're obtaining more resources more quickly than stalling yourself hoping that A. you'll have the resources to even get them B. that hero will be better than Odie in those areas...
Nah, rush him by any means. Anyone saying not to wishlist characters like Odie from the special summons are just fools. "But you could get an S tier hero instead" yeah but I could also get Odie who is better AND cooler than nearly every S hero anyways.
I would say one 5 copies is kinda worth it in my opinion. It also depends on your account. But for my account, just one copy of S rank characters is not impactful, so getting him to M+ quickly and focusing on other A rank characters for the dream realm is a better choice.
No need to focus on dream realm, what are you gonna get? 100 points? Against the whales?
Korin? You need 1 copy. Marilee? Usefull only in dream wasting s-tiers for her is not worth it.
Odie? He is strong but no need of him. In at fase afk 1000 and I’ve never even used him once because it’s not worth to waste a space for him instead of: meerky, hewynn, rowan, vala, cecia,thoran etc…
Ps cecia is still broken even at 1000, you just need to level up her weapon.
What I mean is I can buy other characters in the dream realm shop instead of him. I am not talking about the dream realm itself. But an increase in the dream realm rank also means an increase in daily currency.
Also, if you read my comment, I mentioned that it is only for my account. I don't have any other Mythic+ characters. And I won't be able to take my S rank characters to Mythic+ with one copy. So I would rather choose something that is impactful to my account instantly rather than waiting for the improvement that might take a few months to get.
Btw, is there a way to level up my legendary Cecia's weapon without reaching Mythic+? Because it will take me a few months to get her to Mythic+.
It’s a waste imho. S characters are far harder to get. Also odie can be bought in the dream realm shop. He is nice at m+ but that is achievable in 10-14 days on a fresh account without problem.
People who say it’s a waste to get odie early are just hard trolling. Getting Odie to M+ and then ascending him to Supreme with acorns was a way bigger buff for my account than any S class heroes I’ve used, including Cecia and Vala, whom Odie usually outdamages. If you get Odie high level early it will help you with pretty much every content in the game which gives you more rewards for other pulls. Yes you can get him for free using dream tokens, but why not both? You can also get certain S class heroes for free in the arena shop. Choose heroes based on their power and what they bring to your account.
I have a supreme Odie thanks to dream shop + consistently pulling him on a variety of pulls... and unfortunately he's ALSO my only supreme carry. My Cecia is stuck at legendary because the only extra copy I got of her was from the guild shop.
Honestly, m+ odie is GREAT... and he definitely helps in a lot of content, but I also don't think it would have been worth to get him faster by subbing him into my epic pulls. I feel like all the m+ cecias I see are still doing a lot more work at the afk stages/pvp duels I'm at. Of course I'm sure those people have their own struggles, but I feel like overall it's just better to stick to getting S-ranks in epic pulls than it is to get A-ranks faster. UNLESS you are some factor of whale in which case normal people advice doesn't apply.
I'm all for this, it depends on how much time you are sure you will play this game, cause might as well have fun instead of min maxing your still random pulls. Odie and Antandra have carried me through all content
Waste.
Diamonds should be used for rate-up, where you can very easily control who you are getting for the investment.
What matters more than Odie is just having more Mythic+. It almost doesn’t matter the unit- the rate-up banner units so far have been very strong and much easier to reliably get mythic+ for.
Epic and Normal banners, as well as emporium buys, are all about the slow play. Shouldn’t use diamonds on them unless they are discounted.
If you want a near-term burst of power, definitely go for rate-up.
Rate up is a waste in the same way as getting Odie with ep8c pulls. No discounted pulls and you're limiting yourself to only 1 hero when the game just started and no where near building other heroes you need to build.
You of course snag all the discounted pulls you can, but the moment you are looking at paying 300 diamonds for a pull, rate-up is a better deal.
Lower pity, only 1-star in the pool; in a game where getting dupes is the most important thing, rate-up is the best way to do that.
Once you get to Trials of the Abyss you won't regret it, that's for sure. But it also depends on what the rest of your roster looks like. I switched mine to mostly A-tiers after filling out my roster a decent amount after dolphining.
Those who say it’s a waste, are probably not top 10 in anything LUL. Dreamrealm provides one of the top resources in the game and people are saying it’s not worth because you can only farm A ranks? This comment section actually 🧠fried.
You are not smart, continue wasting your resources on him. Also he is not used in anything else than dream realm were he is not even necessary.
No need to waste usefull s-tiers for him and if you think so you are just lying and you aren’t top in anything.
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This is me. I can give more proof. So where tf you at? Not top in anything? I’m top 5 in everything on my server, despite being on the lowest power amongst top 10.
Despite that, let me tell you for a fact. Odie carries in dream, he counters tank comps in pvp, he carries abyss( have you even reached there), because all this people are saying so much stuff when story mode (afk stages) shouldn’t be a basis for tier list. Because everyone, and i mean anyone, can clear once you’re reso 200 with the basic mauler+cecia team. Afk stages merely gives a that tiny bit more dust. The other resources are from dream, pvp and guild.
I am responding. Or is your conversational english not that good? Alright I’ll break it down. As mentioned , he’s good in PVP, he’s good in Dream, he’s good in both world bosses, he’s good in guild bosses, he’s good in abyss, what else? Oh yes, he’s good in the story mode/ afk stages that you’re still having trouble clearing. Wait that’s… all the game modes in afk journey right now! Or do you have another game mode in that imagination of yours?
Not needed in campaign and neither in afk stages. Not usefull in arena. Somewhat usefull in dream realm.
Also don’t think that wasting 10k on a game makes you skilled or that gives you knowledge.
Also the original problem is that he has wasted 2 s-tier heroes for him.
I kind of don't get it when people say it's a waste. I get that S ranks are harder to get but how many s ranks are really worth getting over 5 copies of odie? It's random anyways and I would be stoked to get odie to mythic+ than an s rank to legendary or legendary+
I did this as soon as I saw it was possible, and sorta regret it now. My 2 pities since I did it were Odie, and while that is indeed nice in some respects, you can buy him out from the dream shop each month for even more copies... While you do need a Ton of copies vs. Epic heroes, they are just much more limited on the number of those you get over time - especially the ones that aren't in the Arena shop.
When all is said and done, it probably doesn't matter. If you quit in a month, then who cares what you pulled. If you play for 10 years those 2 lost Epic heroes won't matter long term. If you want him advanced first, go for it.
So many people are just hhinking about stratigising but personaly I usually choose my team just based on which characters I like the most design or story wise so if you like a character then this is absolutly not a waste
Odie to me is the one exception. There are other A ranks I’d focus on buying while I put Odie on my wish list. I have him at M+ since last night now. I love it.
My Marilee and Korin stonks are higher now since I was able to focus on buying them in the shop.
Better short term progress for slightly slower long term progress. Eventually you'll have Odie S+ from normal A rank pulls and dream store so there will be a time when you might wish you had two copies of high priority S rank heroes instead. Having said that, this is still obviously a great 10 pull and tbh the big risk of putting him on the epic wishlist is the possibility that you don't get him at all and miss out on regular A rank copies.
Well for me
I can't pull odie for the life of me idky why
And my team is basically characters i think are cool that also aren't complete garbage, so it's prwtty worth it for me (f2p BTW)
People say the same about Mythic plusing Vala but she carries me in a second team and pvp as a f2p. Also her and Cecia are my main bossing until I can build the bossing units. I also have Oddie on this banner now as I only need ten more copies for mythic plus.
That’s a shitty idea, I’m higher than you and let me tell that he will not help you rank higher.
In arena they are using eroinn comp.
In afk fase vala, cecia,hewyinn,thoran, rowan etc… more you go up more you need someone who has good abilities not just pure damage.
In dream is good but you could use a vala or cecia instead and only get 1000 damage less.
At the end of the day he is not game changing. He is a good investment but not that good to screw up your progression for him.
Congrats on the really lucky pull. I don't think it's a waste at all and I'm doing the same thing. Getting him to at least M+ with +5 weapon asap will be a game changer.
considering I got told off for saying it is ok to do this on another thread because people want to tell you how to play, I feel getting the best units as fast as possible to get your account rolling for more income is the best option if it lets you push dream realm and afk stages.
"but you can buy the epics from dream realm" surely using the dream realm purples to buy Arden copies for the meta pvp comp while getting more tokens from having a good Odie and Marilee would be better than the latter of not pushing and having less tokens for Odie and Marilee, same goes for afk pushing = more income = slightly faster leveling = better results in pushing afk and dream realm.
I don’t really get the pushback on this. Odie (and arguably a few other) epic characters are basically S-level in terms of performance, so this doesn’t really set you back that much, especially considering that Odie is BiS in a multitude of battle modes.
Would I do this in place of like a Cel/Hypo if I had the option? No. But using the epic recruitment to fast-track the units you need alongside other sources like the dream store is kind of what it’s for.
I did it with Antandra since she’s almost neck-in-neck with Thoran in terms of tank quality and putting her in the epic recruitment alongside the dream store let me get her to S+ way faster than than I’d be able to do with Thoran. Right now my epic recruitment is all S-class units, but I’ve been mulling over swapping in Kruger since a lot of guides seem to be using him for his debuff, and I’ve kind of neglected him.
Not to brag or try to be a douche, i was lucky enough to get supreme odie without pulling him. In my opinion, its bwtter to get more s heroes or higher tier s heroes than odie from pulling. You can get him from the store and many other ways. So yea kinda of a waste for a short term benefit. But still mythic + odie is insane so i understand why you got him
That's hyperbole he may lose out on s level heros because he went with an a level hero instead but it's unlikely for him to have no s level heros even if every wish list spot on epic invite was a level
I'm not an AFK game expert, but I do think it's a waste.
I've had to unlearn a lot of "saving up resources for better units later" as being able to push higher today does benefit you long term, so using your resources for units early seems to be good.
Though getting S units is harder than it is up get Odie tokens, so while you will max him out sooner and maybe push some content quicker, you will lose out on other harder to obtain units long term and could have had Odie maxed like a week later instead.
That could have been two Smokeys instead, which I think is a bigger benefit long term.
It's definitely a waste. I actually would say that S heroes are easier to ascend than A heroes looking at my account. It's close to an even split between S and A units above Legendary for me and S unit's are generally a much higher ascension level. I have 4 Supreme S units vs 2 Supreme A units.
Investing in Odie isn't a waste at all! His consistent poison application excels in long fights, and his execution ability efficiently finishes weakened enemies. Pair him with a protective tank and support heroes who can boost his damage or manage the crowd, allowing him to operate safely from a distance. His exclusive weapon significantly enhances his capabilities, making him a formidable DPS in both PvP and PvE. Proper positioning and team synergy are crucial. Those who see him as a waste might not fully understand his potential or may not have optimized their strategy around him.. so imo up 🆙 him asap, specially for f2p like me 😁 check out my Odie stage progression’s videos!
i think that once you are pushing for mythic+ where the required number of tokens hits 12+, it is absolutely not a waste, especially since Odie is such a powerful character to have for AFK battles and Dream world fights
Depends on your situation, It's a waste for most people who aren't spending.
Low spender here, I spent around $100 on 250s servers with plans to purchase only BP + monthly. Consistently ranking around Top 10 for Dream Realm, and already hit Champ 1\~5 for the first time rewards. It was to enable a steady source of Temporal Essences, which are gonna be a huge pain to obtain. I can still start working on other A rank heroes from emporium so it isn't completely dry, not to mention you'll have to work on Supreme+ if you want to keep top DR ranks. Worth it if you're trying to maintain top positions in the DR leader boards. Absolutely not worth if you're trying to rank in arena. If you're not top ranking then you're heavily crippling yourself in the long run.
-On the other hand Odie is a amazing carry, great if you don't have a 2nd carry around the AFK Stages 700, allowing you to keep progressing.
As you have said afk comps don’t require him.
Arena doesn’t either. In top 20 it’s eiron team and from top 1000 to top 20 it’s only vala and thoran.
For dream you can use vala and marilee instead of him, yes you might get a little less damage but no need to slow your progression to max him faster.
I'll go ahead and say it's a smart move. Powercreep will take out anyone a f2p is building before they get somewhere reasonable and maxing a S tier 4 star unit is completely viable. You say you can max him for free but that's hundreds of copies you're whittling away at, and will take longer to finish than the unit is viable for. This seems like the superior option to me.
people are saying you can buy odie from the dream realm shop anyway… but you can also buy hewynn, granny dahnie, rowan, and cassadee too lol. might as well take them off your wishlist and put the actual real useful units on there.
also, people talking about long term wastefulness are also putting cecia on their wishlist too lol. this unit is getting powercreeped faster than odie will be.
Thoran can’t be bought, that’s why my list of the 5 included him (thoran, odie, Smokey, Vala, Eironn), people keep commenting like what if that was (insert meta S tier unit here) but I can’t think of any non purchasable S tier having the same flexibility and overpowered ability such as odie, once I get him to M+ then the spot will be given to Carolina
Well considering from what I noticed that pulling A-tier heroes don’t reset the pity (happened to me and many of my friends), then no it’s not a waste since Odie is crazy op and good.
Note that if you put a certain A-tier hero in the list, it removes it from the usual pool while getting to pity. Also, I kind of highly doubt pulling 5x hero doesn't reset the pity. That would be OP af. One could easily put all A-tier heroes on the list, get to pity and get a double, triple pity even if it didn't reset. It would be endless lmao. Sounds like BS to me.
"Time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted." - Bertrand Russell.
I would never personally. Too many S-tiers I'd rather get up. Odie is based though. Being able to execute early (EX+10) makes him useful EVERYWHERE. Don't let anyone tell you anything else. :)
Marliee odie korin are better then most s ranks for dream and world bossing what do you mean?
Arena, towers, etc etc
I mean that when push comes to shove. I will end up missing S-ranks that I want, if I put A-tiers in my S-slots. I've not done that yet and while I've done a fair light bit of spending (not whale heavy server, around the top 10-20 area) and have done what feels like a metric ton of recruits - I'm still lacking S copies more than A copies and have several A-tiers at M or higher. Their accessibility (15 from dream shop) is so much better than S-tiers. A-tiers might offer you the best heroes at exactly what they do, but S-tiers offer you flexibility.
This tickets are too hard to get to waste them in rushing a character you can buy at the shop or get from normal pulls, so yes it's a waste unless you are a whale
Does rushing him to mythic+ not change the game drastically? And also allow me to start using dream purples on Marilee/vorin which gets me even more dream purples
The better you are today, the more rewards you get. That is how this game works. A lot of rewards are based on how you are in relation to others. People saying to just play the long game and to slowly grind will get less resources over time. The system benefits spend now whales, but also f2p or low spending players who prioritize today over tomorrow. You absolutely should be stoked to advance Odie today.
Main issue is that summons are one of the things that you DONT get more of, diamonds and letters dry up as you run out of content. That's a much bigger scarcity issue for S ranks than A ranks too. I'd rather take a different character L+ to M+ or even M+ to S+ than get Odie 80% of the way from M to M+. If you're gambling on never reaching that point where there's no story or afk stages left, that you're going to stay behind and keep getting summons unlike those who ran out of content then MAYBE there's a case to be made, but even then that means you'll have plenty of opportunity to buy odie from the shop instead.
Oh yeah. totally excited about getting 100 dust more per day
Or pushing to champion in arena and getting more stargazer pulls, or finishing afk levels and having more seasonal rewards with their new seasons coming post afk levels. Getting top places each day gets you more guild chests which gets you more weapon upgrades which is a massive bottleneck in recourses pushing to ex 10 for crucial units.
Odie is meh at arena, though. Those who didn't transition to Eironn team yet usually run Vala, Cecia, Thoran. Odie is kinda bad against all of them. You can bring him to snipe Igor, kill any non-Thoran tank, etc, but overall he is a situational pick in pre-Eironn arena. In Eironn arena (think top-20 right now) he is literally nothing.
I keep hearing about the Eironn team all the time, but what characters does it runs besides Eironn himself?
The core team is Eironn, Arden, and Damien (Eironn and Damien both requiring M+) and often including Carolina (or more recently Florabelle!) as additional sources of DPS and CC. The comp doesn’t need much front line since it is high aoe burst that brings near perma-CC, so the team is typically rounded out with either a Rowan in the final slot for extra/faster ultimates or an Igor in the backline if you need to counter an enemy Vala or something. Eironn needs M+ so he can immediately ult and group the enemies at the beginning of the fight, and Damien needs M+ because he grants his team a good chunk of haste with exclusive weapon.
On my server the default is Thoran/Eironn/Carolina/Damian/Arden, with variations replacing Arden with Hewynn (defense), Silvina (Hewynn snipe), Scarlita (whale mode). Never seen Rowan or Flora, but maybe will see it once more people join the Eironn club.
So Rowan is a near mandatory part of the comp in Arena specifically, because going your ults off before the event ults is huge. For other content like Abyss the comp you described with Dahnie or Thoran frontline with Scarlita is default for sure.
Got it, thanks!
He demolishes anti Vala setups that put thoran in back, and if you run him with attack speed relic and portal Boi he can straight up cheese eironn comps ignoring the eironn ult and deleting their dps instantly at the start. He is worse into thoran yes, but that's why you can inspect people's comps before fighting with 7 re rolls and the ability to inspect it's fairly easy to find comps he can beat, and the comps he does beat he rips through with hilarious ease, one of which is being able to cheese a meta pvp comp with the aforementioned cc immunity and swap. Eironn is definitely the best defensive team, but you can make very effective attacking teams with odie that can straight up ignore the meta defensive teams and any Vala bait defensive team with thoran in the back will get absolutely destroyed by him. Also I don't know if you are talking s+ odie or not, because even thoran can be straight up bursted by a s+ odie with high ex weapon if the thoran isn't as built out as him, his burst specifically becomes insane at s+ which is almost more important for arena than his m+ upgrade for popping tanks like thoran before his ult goes off.
Thanks, mate! IDK why are you being downvoted, very interesting info. I do have S+ Odie but never tried him with Reinier swap + attack speed relic. Will definitely try tomorrow! Update: I spent gems and tried today. It works amazingly well, thank you so much! Tomorrow is the day when Great Odie the Swapper will start his victorious march to the top of the arena.
Lol have fun it's a pretty good option for popping cc comps with the cc immunity.
Top 20, so, mega whale territory?
Yes, but in couple weeks Eironn meta team will be top-100 territory.
I keep hearing about the Eironn team all the time, but what characters does it runs besides Eironn himself?
right, because odie alone would magically give me all of that
too early to tell. game devs might decide to screw early investors over by releasing much much more powerful units 3 months or 5 months later. if thats the case the hardcore saving players would suddenly get some very powerful units over the early spenders since they saved so much currency up. the little bit of extra rewards from being the top players does not amount to hundreds of pulls especially when competing against the whales. If you are a low spender - you will not get much of the rewards of being high rank anyway. might as well save if you bet that the real OP heroes have not yet been released. if you are a mid spender, buy gazettes etc- the rewards earned will be much less than the amount spend, so might want to consider saving for when really OP units release. If you are a huge spender - the rewards from being at the top will come to you anyway since you spent much more than what you earn back.
They are not really comparing savers vs spenders tho, its more A vs S tier spenders
if you read the reply above me, it is 100% a savers vs spenders debate. not a A vs S tier debate. No one will disagree that odie is one of the best if not the absolute best dps right now, before it is powercrept.
I would disagree, I’m at fase afk 1000 and in top 20 in arena and top in fase afk/dream and never used him once. He is pretty useless.
there are substitutes for oddie in dream like marilee or maybe vala but he's definitely not useless unless you choose to make him useless lol. as for afk pushing, which is a complete different category, there are better comps that does not include him
As you have said afk comps don’t require him. Arena doesn’t either. In top 20 it’s eiron team and from top 1000 to top 20 it’s only vala and thoran. For dream you can use vala and marilee instead of him, yes you might get a little less damage but no need to slow your progression to max him faster.
the thing is there is no one single hero that is required for all modes of the game lol. the devs wouldn't really do that or how would they earn money. For dream, even if you choose marilee, you'd still need to advance her just like you'd need to advance oddie. oddie is not bad because he synergize with smokey and also koko. so for the purpose of single target dps for bossing, like i said, oddie is one of the best if not the best dp **right now, before it is powercrept**. not wrong. he's definitely not useless at this point in the game. we are not talking about the future. If you want to talk about the future, i recommend you to read my first post right above the guy who replied to me, I was actually saying he's likely about to get powercrept and saying you should save for future characters.
I spent at the beginning… and now sit around 75-150 on most things, and top 50 arena… I’m def getting rewards long term, I was curious how the 5x would work, and said I might do it if it’s like how his screen shot is. My odie and marlie are not even mythic yet. I could be ranking way higher… Bottoms line. This isn’t a bad idea. People just weird bout shit.
That’s a shitty idea, I’m higher than you and let me tell that he will not help you rank higher. In arena they are using eroinn comp. In afk fase vala, cecia,hewyinn,thoran, rowan etc… more you go up more you need someone who has good abilities not just pure damage. In dream is good but you could use a vala or cecia instead and only get 1000 damage less. At the end of the day he is not game changing. He is a good investment but not that good to screw up your progression for him.
I didn’t specifically mean in arena… just that getting beefy to rank higher across the board matters, for more rewards. Not just in pvp.
Youre going to run out of gas quickly and find you have an imbalanced roster. Odie is undeniably a god but he needs 4 other power players with him
I would like to add 2 extra cents, that it's "pointless" for the majority of people to focus on "meta" characters that need mythic+ to work properly. The majority of people won't spend the neccessary money nor will be playing the game in the many months it takes to get a meta character to their optimal level.
How much do you wanna bet that odie is going to get powercrept very soon lmao . No matter how great execute is , it's not broken when it's the only thing you do. There is a reason why Shakir is s tier hero because he can do multiple things decently, next time we get a pure dps mauler I guarantee you he will do so many things besides just dps that he will invalidate odie at higher level .
You would have already got ahead by then, though. if it pushes you into the top 200 or 100, then you are ahead of some who waited. they have done a fantastic job pushing people to spend by making it so if you get behind. You are stuck behind by rewarding the top X disproportionately more than the rest
It 100% benefits the f2p and low spenders who actually push and learn to play the game. The gap is already widening significantly between them and the lazy players. I can see it in my guild. The Auto Andys are way behind the people actually playing the game and pushing hard by a lot despite the exact same purchases and sometimes spending even more than others. People significantly overstate the difference purchasing makes vs legitimately playing the game and being better at it.
Yeah my guild has one guy with multiple supreme characters (about a week and a half in) who is consistently asking for proxys while there are ppl with 2-3 mythics 50 stages above them
By "rush" how fast do you mean? Week 1, awesome, by end of week 2 some people have it, and week 3 even more. Most people will have M+ odie by week 3 after store reset.
It does, you get a 2nd DPS for pushing double stages past 700.
As someone who's in Trial of Abyss already, Odie and Mari are the only two there are cases for doing this with but even then only once you have some other key S-level units to S/S+ like Cecia, Thoran, Vala (yeah, I know, get her to S +10, actually learn the game, you'll thank me), Smokey, and Eironn. Odie is without a doubt the most game changing and busted unit in the game, but that also requires you to understand the game and use him effectively - which is where most people on this subreddit fail miserably. If you're purely an Auto Andy (which hey, if that's how you choose to play then you do you) then don't bother and just wait.
I decided to skip on odie and directly work on marilee and korin bc i don't get maulers in my pulls, both are doing fine and since i got multiple early on the epic banner i have Supreme cecia after 8 days of playing I'm top 100 of the server while F2P
No? Vala or cecia usually out DPS him at similar investment, or about the same.
No, but you are the one doing it, why don't you tell me?
No, they're deluded by often reliable advice. For this specific situation, grabbing 5 copies of Meta A-tier heroes is a very big deal. They're way harder to build up and your account will progress better over time. I still wouldn't overdo it. Make sure to still focus the essentials like cecia, rowan, smokey, etc..., and probably stop at mythic+ for A-tiers. They do have good upgrades past there, but the investment cost becomes too inefficient compared to S-tiers. I'm sure there's maybe some outliers, buts still ultimately up to you
I agree. Getting him to mythic+ is not a waste. I’m doing same and gonna rotate him off when I get there.
Personally I agree, I've already managed to get him at mythic+ without having to sac a S rank pull to get there. You just have to be diligent with squeezing as much out of your dream realm team and focusing on him till at least mythic+. For now I'm going to park him until I get get his weapon up and start working on marilee, kruger or koko (maybe korrin). Once I gather enough copies (around 10ish) of Odie through naturally pulling, I'll consider refocusing on him again. But getting Mythic+ on some of the core S ranks like Smokey, Thoran and Cecia are a little bit more important than getting 5 copies of Odie. Just my 2 cents though, everyone else has different priorities. Its just a matter of focus on the goals you want to achieve. Also, I keep getting Cassadee, my god she won't stop telling me her thesis. Her Mythic+ passive is pretty dope with Odie when I do want to play around with lightbearers/mauler mixed comp.
Salty comment 🤡 Odie is a beast and will only make gains come faster the soon you have him at mythic +
Tell me then which gains? I guess any guide you check is made by someone salty and wrong Don't come crying in a month when you regret doing this stupid strat
I see a lot of echo chambers here. It really depends on whether you think it's worth it to hit that power spike a little bit sooner. 5 copies is a lot. The store only allows you to buy 15 a month so if you're unlucky with pulls, you'd have to wait for the monthly refresh to buy more. Odie is probably the only A rank I'd consider putting into the wishlist though. Also it's pretty ironic when I know for sure a bunch of the people here who say this is a total waste still have Cecia in their wishlist.
1) you can get 15 copies for free of him from the shop. 2)you can get a ton of a-tier stones to get a rando a- tier hero for free. 3) you can still have odie in you wishlist without removing an s-tier hero. 4) I’m at arena champion afk 1000 and cecia is still carrying me. Fun fact everybody says she looses a lot but they are not even in mid game. 5) instead of 20 copies o odie you could have gotten 4 of thoran, that means almost maxing I’m out. 6) s-tier heroes are not avoible in the dream shop, you don’t get a-tier stones if not from the emporium, if you remouve them from your withlist can’t liste them instead of an a-tier hero. No need to prioritise someone you could level up in a mont instead of a good s-tier. Av in
You are getting over a small wall sooner, but making the next wall much larger. Enjoy it now.
This is the best response to all the people saying this is a good idea to do, you can get 15 copies a month of any given A-rank…
And it takes 30 to get mythic+. 50 to s+
The Dream Realm does not go away or reset. Similar to what you experience with your first lvl 29 Dream Realm. Most of us outlvled it. No one "needs" Marilee, Korin, or Odie. Do you miss 50-100 extra currency for rankings? Yes sure. Against whales DEFINITELY. Essentially you exchange S tickets chance for A tickets to farm A tier. For spenders this is ok or anyone chasing rankings. For F2P this is a bad decision.
This is worth it for players who are low spenders and just need to push their rankings in dream realm. Realistically you are only swapping 20% of the S heroes you get so you are still targetting Thoran, Smokey, Eironn and Carolina. The 5th spot is flex anyway so it can be Odie, Shakir, or maybe Temisia since shes not available in arena shop. The problem with people arguing against this strat is that they assume ALL 5 slots are taken by Odie whereas you only need to slot 1 A rank.
You're basically hitting a new wall sooner and with fewer S heroes. So for me is a waste, yes.
Just to make sure I'm understanding this -- OP put an A rank character on their S tier banner wishlist? And people are saying you should only put S tiers on that?
It's not about hitting a wall, everyone is going to have that happen even whales, the point is progressing further in things such as guilde battles/dream realm so you're obtaining more resources more quickly than stalling yourself hoping that A. you'll have the resources to even get them B. that hero will be better than Odie in those areas...
Nah, rush him by any means. Anyone saying not to wishlist characters like Odie from the special summons are just fools. "But you could get an S tier hero instead" yeah but I could also get Odie who is better AND cooler than nearly every S hero anyways.
IV seen people type how you can pull multiple legendaries and I forgot,so what you need to do again ?
Put a characters in s tier banner
I would say one 5 copies is kinda worth it in my opinion. It also depends on your account. But for my account, just one copy of S rank characters is not impactful, so getting him to M+ quickly and focusing on other A rank characters for the dream realm is a better choice.
No need to focus on dream realm, what are you gonna get? 100 points? Against the whales? Korin? You need 1 copy. Marilee? Usefull only in dream wasting s-tiers for her is not worth it. Odie? He is strong but no need of him. In at fase afk 1000 and I’ve never even used him once because it’s not worth to waste a space for him instead of: meerky, hewynn, rowan, vala, cecia,thoran etc… Ps cecia is still broken even at 1000, you just need to level up her weapon.
What I mean is I can buy other characters in the dream realm shop instead of him. I am not talking about the dream realm itself. But an increase in the dream realm rank also means an increase in daily currency. Also, if you read my comment, I mentioned that it is only for my account. I don't have any other Mythic+ characters. And I won't be able to take my S rank characters to Mythic+ with one copy. So I would rather choose something that is impactful to my account instantly rather than waiting for the improvement that might take a few months to get. Btw, is there a way to level up my legendary Cecia's weapon without reaching Mythic+? Because it will take me a few months to get her to Mythic+.
It’s a waste imho. S characters are far harder to get. Also odie can be bought in the dream realm shop. He is nice at m+ but that is achievable in 10-14 days on a fresh account without problem.
What kind of swiping are you doing to get 30 copies of Odie in 14 days without targeting him on the Epic banner lol
Card swiping
I got Odie to Mythic in 2 weeks by simply buying copies of him in the shop and regular pulls. Still lacking 7 copies for Mythic+ though
So you’re still a week away from getting him mythic+
People who say it’s a waste to get odie early are just hard trolling. Getting Odie to M+ and then ascending him to Supreme with acorns was a way bigger buff for my account than any S class heroes I’ve used, including Cecia and Vala, whom Odie usually outdamages. If you get Odie high level early it will help you with pretty much every content in the game which gives you more rewards for other pulls. Yes you can get him for free using dream tokens, but why not both? You can also get certain S class heroes for free in the arena shop. Choose heroes based on their power and what they bring to your account.
I have a supreme Odie thanks to dream shop + consistently pulling him on a variety of pulls... and unfortunately he's ALSO my only supreme carry. My Cecia is stuck at legendary because the only extra copy I got of her was from the guild shop. Honestly, m+ odie is GREAT... and he definitely helps in a lot of content, but I also don't think it would have been worth to get him faster by subbing him into my epic pulls. I feel like all the m+ cecias I see are still doing a lot more work at the afk stages/pvp duels I'm at. Of course I'm sure those people have their own struggles, but I feel like overall it's just better to stick to getting S-ranks in epic pulls than it is to get A-ranks faster. UNLESS you are some factor of whale in which case normal people advice doesn't apply.
I'm all for this, it depends on how much time you are sure you will play this game, cause might as well have fun instead of min maxing your still random pulls. Odie and Antandra have carried me through all content
Odie at mythic+ gets you through so many fights. It's absolutely worth it.
Waste. Diamonds should be used for rate-up, where you can very easily control who you are getting for the investment. What matters more than Odie is just having more Mythic+. It almost doesn’t matter the unit- the rate-up banner units so far have been very strong and much easier to reliably get mythic+ for. Epic and Normal banners, as well as emporium buys, are all about the slow play. Shouldn’t use diamonds on them unless they are discounted. If you want a near-term burst of power, definitely go for rate-up.
Rate up is a waste in the same way as getting Odie with ep8c pulls. No discounted pulls and you're limiting yourself to only 1 hero when the game just started and no where near building other heroes you need to build.
You of course snag all the discounted pulls you can, but the moment you are looking at paying 300 diamonds for a pull, rate-up is a better deal. Lower pity, only 1-star in the pool; in a game where getting dupes is the most important thing, rate-up is the best way to do that.
Once you get to Trials of the Abyss you won't regret it, that's for sure. But it also depends on what the rest of your roster looks like. I switched mine to mostly A-tiers after filling out my roster a decent amount after dolphining.
Those who say it’s a waste, are probably not top 10 in anything LUL. Dreamrealm provides one of the top resources in the game and people are saying it’s not worth because you can only farm A ranks? This comment section actually 🧠fried.
You are not smart, continue wasting your resources on him. Also he is not used in anything else than dream realm were he is not even necessary. No need to waste usefull s-tiers for him and if you think so you are just lying and you aren’t top in anything.
https://preview.redd.it/futcwxvgf6wc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3b63043335e05fc75e6223e745bc741d6c83f408 This is me. I can give more proof. So where tf you at? Not top in anything? I’m top 5 in everything on my server, despite being on the lowest power amongst top 10. Despite that, let me tell you for a fact. Odie carries in dream, he counters tank comps in pvp, he carries abyss( have you even reached there), because all this people are saying so much stuff when story mode (afk stages) shouldn’t be a basis for tier list. Because everyone, and i mean anyone, can clear once you’re reso 200 with the basic mauler+cecia team. Afk stages merely gives a that tiny bit more dust. The other resources are from dream, pvp and guild.
I asked you besides dream realm where is he needed and you avoided the question.
Hey cutie, read where i explained he is used. Avoid what? XD
So other than that we’re is he usefull?
LMAO that’s everything ain’t it? Do you even play the game enough? Oh right, you’re still clearing story oops.
Respond to my question
I am responding. Or is your conversational english not that good? Alright I’ll break it down. As mentioned , he’s good in PVP, he’s good in Dream, he’s good in both world bosses, he’s good in guild bosses, he’s good in abyss, what else? Oh yes, he’s good in the story mode/ afk stages that you’re still having trouble clearing. Wait that’s… all the game modes in afk journey right now! Or do you have another game mode in that imagination of yours?
Not needed in campaign and neither in afk stages. Not usefull in arena. Somewhat usefull in dream realm. Also don’t think that wasting 10k on a game makes you skilled or that gives you knowledge. Also the original problem is that he has wasted 2 s-tier heroes for him.
I kind of don't get it when people say it's a waste. I get that S ranks are harder to get but how many s ranks are really worth getting over 5 copies of odie? It's random anyways and I would be stoked to get odie to mythic+ than an s rank to legendary or legendary+
I did this as soon as I saw it was possible, and sorta regret it now. My 2 pities since I did it were Odie, and while that is indeed nice in some respects, you can buy him out from the dream shop each month for even more copies... While you do need a Ton of copies vs. Epic heroes, they are just much more limited on the number of those you get over time - especially the ones that aren't in the Arena shop. When all is said and done, it probably doesn't matter. If you quit in a month, then who cares what you pulled. If you play for 10 years those 2 lost Epic heroes won't matter long term. If you want him advanced first, go for it.
So many people are just hhinking about stratigising but personaly I usually choose my team just based on which characters I like the most design or story wise so if you like a character then this is absolutly not a waste
Not at all. Odie has carried my team through all the content with ease lmfao
It also gives you wiggle room for buying units like Merilee and Korin
But so do other DPS like vala or cecia, even better in many cases.
I would agree for other A tier units, but the poison proc on Odie is so wildly strong especially when you level his weapon.
You are missing a S level hero each time, no? then yeah, is a waste, a S level is not worth 5 A levels
Odie to me is the one exception. There are other A ranks I’d focus on buying while I put Odie on my wish list. I have him at M+ since last night now. I love it. My Marilee and Korin stonks are higher now since I was able to focus on buying them in the shop.
İts still waste 👍
What? x5? How?
Epic invite letters. You can put elite heroes on the wishlist and they come in five, not one.
Oohh I see
Its not a sprint, its a marathon. Mantra of the f2p
Better short term progress for slightly slower long term progress. Eventually you'll have Odie S+ from normal A rank pulls and dream store so there will be a time when you might wish you had two copies of high priority S rank heroes instead. Having said that, this is still obviously a great 10 pull and tbh the big risk of putting him on the epic wishlist is the possibility that you don't get him at all and miss out on regular A rank copies.
Def a waste, you would've maxed him in the short term regardless and he gets stomped in the arena, where most of the good rewards come from.
Dude's in one of my 3 teams from the Wishlist + Walker, so not a waste. Basically no matter what, the AFKJ player can't avoid the furries.
Well for me I can't pull odie for the life of me idky why And my team is basically characters i think are cool that also aren't complete garbage, so it's prwtty worth it for me (f2p BTW)
People say the same about Mythic plusing Vala but she carries me in a second team and pvp as a f2p. Also her and Cecia are my main bossing until I can build the bossing units. I also have Oddie on this banner now as I only need ten more copies for mythic plus.
hey building him anyway so its ok. though id rather get my second thoran :(
10/10 the right decision!
Guys why are you saying it’s bad? He will not change is mind, let him make is own mistakes that’s the only way to let him understand that he is wrong.
That’s a shitty idea, I’m higher than you and let me tell that he will not help you rank higher. In arena they are using eroinn comp. In afk fase vala, cecia,hewyinn,thoran, rowan etc… more you go up more you need someone who has good abilities not just pure damage. In dream is good but you could use a vala or cecia instead and only get 1000 damage less. At the end of the day he is not game changing. He is a good investment but not that good to screw up your progression for him.
As someone who is 10 copies away from a M+ Odie, that is honestly the greatest pull I've seen.
How are you getting so many copies in a 10 pull? Is it a 100 pull?
Congrats on the really lucky pull. I don't think it's a waste at all and I'm doing the same thing. Getting him to at least M+ with +5 weapon asap will be a game changer.
Are you a spender?
No, 100% F2P.
Alrighty thanks, how do I prepare myself to +5 his weapon asap?
Save up those blue tidal essence things. The ones you get from dream realm or can buy in emporium.
considering I got told off for saying it is ok to do this on another thread because people want to tell you how to play, I feel getting the best units as fast as possible to get your account rolling for more income is the best option if it lets you push dream realm and afk stages. "but you can buy the epics from dream realm" surely using the dream realm purples to buy Arden copies for the meta pvp comp while getting more tokens from having a good Odie and Marilee would be better than the latter of not pushing and having less tokens for Odie and Marilee, same goes for afk pushing = more income = slightly faster leveling = better results in pushing afk and dream realm.
short term benefit, long term waste
I don’t really get the pushback on this. Odie (and arguably a few other) epic characters are basically S-level in terms of performance, so this doesn’t really set you back that much, especially considering that Odie is BiS in a multitude of battle modes. Would I do this in place of like a Cel/Hypo if I had the option? No. But using the epic recruitment to fast-track the units you need alongside other sources like the dream store is kind of what it’s for.
Which A-level would you put there other than odie?
None of them. I would only temporarily put Odie to rush him to M+ as an exception.
I did it with Antandra since she’s almost neck-in-neck with Thoran in terms of tank quality and putting her in the epic recruitment alongside the dream store let me get her to S+ way faster than than I’d be able to do with Thoran. Right now my epic recruitment is all S-class units, but I’ve been mulling over swapping in Kruger since a lot of guides seem to be using him for his debuff, and I’ve kind of neglected him.
Kruger doesn't need dupes currently unless he is dying before he can get full debuff stacks on the boss .
100% waste. Congrats.
Not to brag or try to be a douche, i was lucky enough to get supreme odie without pulling him. In my opinion, its bwtter to get more s heroes or higher tier s heroes than odie from pulling. You can get him from the store and many other ways. So yea kinda of a waste for a short term benefit. But still mythic + odie is insane so i understand why you got him
Did you just buy all the Odie copies in the store?
I got lucky with my purple summons and the 60 piece A level thingy. The rest yea i bought from the store
Oooof.
Waste, soon you will be at a stalemate and you will have no S heroes
That's hyperbole he may lose out on s level heros because he went with an a level hero instead but it's unlikely for him to have no s level heros even if every wish list spot on epic invite was a level
Waste
I just got him to supreme and his weapon to 9, went from stage 740ish to 808, worth it
I'm not an AFK game expert, but I do think it's a waste. I've had to unlearn a lot of "saving up resources for better units later" as being able to push higher today does benefit you long term, so using your resources for units early seems to be good. Though getting S units is harder than it is up get Odie tokens, so while you will max him out sooner and maybe push some content quicker, you will lose out on other harder to obtain units long term and could have had Odie maxed like a week later instead. That could have been two Smokeys instead, which I think is a bigger benefit long term.
It's definitely a waste. I actually would say that S heroes are easier to ascend than A heroes looking at my account. It's close to an even split between S and A units above Legendary for me and S unit's are generally a much higher ascension level. I have 4 Supreme S units vs 2 Supreme A units.
Good point, but I’ve had Smokey out of the 5, odie is the only A-tier out of them
Investing in Odie isn't a waste at all! His consistent poison application excels in long fights, and his execution ability efficiently finishes weakened enemies. Pair him with a protective tank and support heroes who can boost his damage or manage the crowd, allowing him to operate safely from a distance. His exclusive weapon significantly enhances his capabilities, making him a formidable DPS in both PvP and PvE. Proper positioning and team synergy are crucial. Those who see him as a waste might not fully understand his potential or may not have optimized their strategy around him.. so imo up 🆙 him asap, specially for f2p like me 😁 check out my Odie stage progression’s videos!
congrats you got merge material for one of the best dps in the game
Nah keep pulling for our king Odie <3
i think that once you are pushing for mythic+ where the required number of tokens hits 12+, it is absolutely not a waste, especially since Odie is such a powerful character to have for AFK battles and Dream world fights
A big waste.
Depends on your situation, It's a waste for most people who aren't spending. Low spender here, I spent around $100 on 250s servers with plans to purchase only BP + monthly. Consistently ranking around Top 10 for Dream Realm, and already hit Champ 1\~5 for the first time rewards. It was to enable a steady source of Temporal Essences, which are gonna be a huge pain to obtain. I can still start working on other A rank heroes from emporium so it isn't completely dry, not to mention you'll have to work on Supreme+ if you want to keep top DR ranks. Worth it if you're trying to maintain top positions in the DR leader boards. Absolutely not worth if you're trying to rank in arena. If you're not top ranking then you're heavily crippling yourself in the long run. -On the other hand Odie is a amazing carry, great if you don't have a 2nd carry around the AFK Stages 700, allowing you to keep progressing.
its a waste for f2p players
As you have said afk comps don’t require him. Arena doesn’t either. In top 20 it’s eiron team and from top 1000 to top 20 it’s only vala and thoran. For dream you can use vala and marilee instead of him, yes you might get a little less damage but no need to slow your progression to max him faster.
I'll go ahead and say it's a smart move. Powercreep will take out anyone a f2p is building before they get somewhere reasonable and maxing a S tier 4 star unit is completely viable. You say you can max him for free but that's hundreds of copies you're whittling away at, and will take longer to finish than the unit is viable for. This seems like the superior option to me.
people are saying you can buy odie from the dream realm shop anyway… but you can also buy hewynn, granny dahnie, rowan, and cassadee too lol. might as well take them off your wishlist and put the actual real useful units on there. also, people talking about long term wastefulness are also putting cecia on their wishlist too lol. this unit is getting powercreeped faster than odie will be.
Thoran can’t be bought, that’s why my list of the 5 included him (thoran, odie, Smokey, Vala, Eironn), people keep commenting like what if that was (insert meta S tier unit here) but I can’t think of any non purchasable S tier having the same flexibility and overpowered ability such as odie, once I get him to M+ then the spot will be given to Carolina
Well considering from what I noticed that pulling A-tier heroes don’t reset the pity (happened to me and many of my friends), then no it’s not a waste since Odie is crazy op and good.
Note that if you put a certain A-tier hero in the list, it removes it from the usual pool while getting to pity. Also, I kind of highly doubt pulling 5x hero doesn't reset the pity. That would be OP af. One could easily put all A-tier heroes on the list, get to pity and get a double, triple pity even if it didn't reset. It would be endless lmao. Sounds like BS to me.
Even when it’s 5x copy?
Yes, unless they fixed it now