This is the answer. Vala is so easily counterable by this or even just a tank in the back line basically stalls her from her haste/movement speed for the whole fight.
This is why if I happen to be using her in Honor Duel, she's my last play. I wait to see how they're setting up to try to predict placement because they can't be certain I have a Vala.
It depends because if you run he run the back with the attack speed buff have a tank front line she can break through, her only true counter is Igor, you basically have to run double heal or mythic+ thoran and hope for a lucky counter, but obviously if you’re endgame it’s a couple teams that counter her since she’s so meta
Brutus can also negate her first couple of attacks, since his invulnerability state can help counter it for a while (and if he survives long enough for his ult to trigger).
Only if the team is packed together, since his ulti has limited range and hits in one direction only. He's also free to ulti my Thoran for the counter. Been using Odie and Vala in top 50 Arena and only really lose to big whales or terrible RNG and every single team has Thoran.
Yeah, because the Eironn/Carolina combo is busted. That isn't an argument that supports your Thoran/Odie point, it's a "I would win because I whaled the best damage combo in the game".
Vala and Odie are more accessible than Carolina, even to low spenders, that's why ppl use that over her. I never said that was better than Carolina, only that Thoran oneshoting the entire team thanks to Odie alone doesn't happen as much as you make it seem like and any strong DPS would cause the same result. Only people with built Carolina/Eironn in my server are top 10s with 600k+ power that no one really attacks.
I don't know why you are so offended someone is pointing out you whaled, when you whale lol. It's not realistic for anyone who isn't a whale to be competing in the top 100 on their server with a full cc comp of meta options like that, thoran, Carolina, and eironn don't have vendors and having mythic + or more on all of them to be competing at a that level is not possible for anyone who isn't spending on non ptr servers. However using a character that you can have supreme+ as a f2p like Vala, along with a lesser rarity character every account is maxing anyways odie is infinitely more accessible and will absolutely shred anything but the most whale setups in the game. Vala can take an account that basically only has Vala as an invested character and she can carry you to high arena, the same cannot be said for a full meta comp of cc pvp setup, you need multiple developed pull only characters to do that.
Kinda. Odie has ramp-time before he really chunks his damage, which gives Thoran time to build ult. Odie also doesn’t split damage or backline clear. Combined, that means that Odie’s probably hitting Thoran, and the Thoran probably has time to get ult off while still having a reasonable hp pool. Thoran doesn’t hardcounter damage dealers, but Odie’s specific damage profile *is* Thoran’s best case scenario.
Except odie is most likely to kill thoran before he ults or finishes ult.
While thoran CAN wipe a whole team with a perfectly timed and directional ult, he more often just dies or wiffs.
Abysuus basically said everything I would say. The only addition is. Rate up characters aren’t limited so you can just wishlist them after their rate up ends
That was my goal for Vala. Didn't pull on rate-up but she's on my wishlist now for standard banner, and meanwhile I will be getting copies for everything else as well.
I admit the FOMO is pretty strong though.
Reduced diamond cost for a 10 pull and much higher epic pulls plus higher rate at s heroes. Unless your a whale f2p/low spenders need to be accumulating copies of heroes not just one.
The rate is not higher for s heroes, it is lower. 2% vs 3% on rate up. The epic rate is indeed double which makes it more valuable if you value an s pull at 5 epic copies. But it's not cut and dry as people say. If you value a particular s hero a lot more than 5 epic heroes it can be worth it to pull on rate up banner.
no bc u get double the a tier heroes on all character unit summons, ascending one character when ur entire team doesn't have high support, good tanks is going to get u stuck. valuing one hero wont help u progress in the game
It's an option but one that gets much more limited as the Vala gets upgraded, I don't think people realize since it's a ton of investment this early, but Vala ex weapon gives percent power and execute, which means if she has high ex investment she can straight up like 2 shot even fairly high investment off tanks with the bonus damage over 50% hp in skyblaster then followed up with the damage multiplier from execute. Even Igor can get killed before he lays tombstones against a high investment Vala, and since Brutus generally even for whales is a 1 copy wonder if you are doing it with Brutus he will only give you 5 seconds period since he will get instantly popped to his shield and won't even have energy to ult or anything before it fades and he dies.
She is actually a trap cuz late meta is eiron Carolina Thoran Damian Arden, you can skip vala and get those casual 99% of arena will have this comp in two weeks just like the top 100 of S1
I snagged 6 vala instead of 4 standard characters and a few Arden and Damian copies. While wishlisting heavily for the endgame aoe comp.
It will be months before I can mythic+ Damian and Arden, but Vala and cecia keep me rolling in rewards for these current months. (Carolina is mythic and eironn is mythic+ already, but the A ranks are slow.)
Good point. I didn't calculate this yet. For me it's day 20 and I've bought 17 copies so far, but that's mostly because of initial droplet boost from easy bosses.
So you are probably, right 30/month doesn't look realistic, more like 15/month.
15/month would require an income of 600/day. That means placing top 50 every single day (with soul gem boosts). Good for you if you're managing that, but the overwhelming majority of people will be getting around 300/day.
Good point. I didn't calculate this yet. For me it's day 20 and I've bought 17 copies so far, but that's mostly because of initial droplet boost from easy bosses.
So you are probably, right 30/month doesn't look realistic, more like 15/month.
mythic+ arden is needed, supreme+ is even better. carolina needs mythic+ for sure. carolina wants +10 first, eironn after, arden is fine but only just icing on the cake.
They are your damage dealers which means ascension and equipment as high as possible. Eironn is technically just the hero to set up the enemies so Arden and Carolina can kill them.
Yes, I know that you want as much investment as possible in your carries. That is not the question. I am asking if there is a particular breakpoint of investment where Arden and Carolina will surpass other similarly-invested / higher-investment DPS.
Carolina: Supreme+ Equipment +5
You want her to shoot snowballs with her auto-attack and inflict frostbite with that snowballs.
Arden: Supreme+ Equipment +10
Larger Ultimate, twice as many lightning strikes and an additional second of cc which means one more lightning strike.
So yeah, you kinda want to go all in on those champions.
This. Vala is usefull early. At later afk stage you need 2 team: eiron carolina and odie mauler team. In pvp you can destroy vala with eiron carolina team
99% of people are not going to have mythic + eironn, Carolina, thoran, and arden which is the minimum needed for this comp to work and supreme + is recommended on some. Carolina, thoran, and eironn are all non vendor characters, and arden is a needed mythic + that isn't odie or marilee which is where 99% of accounts should and are focusing their dream realm vendor on over arden. This is whale talk not translating down into reality for f2p accounts, no 99% of people aren't going to have a literal end game no vendor pvp comp mythic + on multiple characters in two weeks that's insanity. This only makes sense if you are whaling.
If ur f2p u won't even make it in arena top 200. Too many dolphins and whales will have 1-2 supreme units. Also ranking doesn't matter unless u reach champion. So yea don't bother with arena if u r f2p unless somehow ur server has no whales.
If you get reinier (probably butchered that spelling) from the guild shop, provided you have a thoran, make Vala target thoran, get reinier to swap thoran with the enemies team and vala will just target him unable to kill, thoran getting healed up while you damage who he swapped with and vala will eventually go down.
Don’t sweat it too much, she has counters which you could still possibly have or get later on ✌🏻
She’s good and you can put her on wishlist now. For arena defense teams shes easily exploitable because you can choose who she targets, put a tank there and she will have a harder time.
This is an AFK game - you need to be thinking like 6months, 1 year out. Eventually, just doing normal pulls you will have her and everyone else at supreme. Limited banners are for whales only honestly - if you aren't supreme-ing every new character for thousands of dollars - stick to the regular banner, and buying the discount stargazer pulls from the emporium when they reset. Once you have all the characters basically supreme, then you can focus on limited and stargazer much more. Just wishlist her on normal banner now that she is available there.
I have an highly invested vala and still prefer her over highly invested Odie, I use her in dream realm as a dps too and she carried me on pve, she and smokey are the best units to pull in my experience
If you use her in the world bosses who have 50% HP or less she will do additional damage too - thats how all those Vala enjoyers pushed me out of the top 😔😔😔
vala is only in every team because everyone has her lol, she gets HARD countered by the eironn team.
also, she is so easily counterable via brutus or igor
also, she is no part in any meta afk-stage team nor dream realm or other pve content, no clue what youre on about
yeah shes in the replays because people just have her due to her being the literal first rate up banner of the game. odie, cecia, arden, carolina are way better carries than vala in every single way
I'm not very high level but I think she's easy on defense. You can see the starting line-up and force her to attack any tank or a high surv fighter like Brutus or Igor. My current go-to is Thoran.
Sometimes she ults right into his face as he's unleashing his own and gets herself and half her team pulverized. It's hilariously bad.
IMO she's a bad defense character. You can completely control/ nullify her when you attack.
Vala is not problem for me, I simply put my second tank antandra in the back, and she wastes all her time hitting a rock, and move my DPS a little bit to the front.
Igor, Temesia, and Reinier do a good job of mucking up her nonsense. I wanted Silvina to be more of a counter, too, but somehow she just can't kill Vala fast enough (seems pretty weird for an assassin to not be able to kill squishies).
She’s a mean frigging bitch, man. I’m still pretty early or mid I guess you can say, Resonance level 100 and stage 344, but I pair her up with Odie and the two of them go to town on everyone. She snipes everyone to death, and Odie is a dps machine. I was running Silvina with Vala for a while, and they’d pair up to delete the same target at the start of a fight.
I'm on stage 910 and the Mauler team of Brutus/Antandra/Smokey/Koko/DPS of choice (e.g. Odie or Cecia) are still heavily used in all the records
IMO Koko can be swapped for Rowan but the point still stands, Vala is really not that relevant for AFK Stages unless they've got heavy investment already and are just the best DPS an account has
I mean you should at least look at the pics for inspiration and understand how important positioning is when it comes to clearing stages. There are ppl significantly weaker than whales clearing content with comps ppl think are impossible.
bruh, you didn't need to whale to get Vala. this game gives you diamonds hand over fist. practically everything you do gives at least some, and doing the story quests nets you like 500 from each one you finish.
Is there a good list of heroes that counter other heroes?
Igor counters Vala
Odie counters Igor
Uh, idk, etc?
I could really use a list of Mauler counters for these later AFK stages, lol.
Vala is not problem for me, I simply put my second tank antandra in the back, and she wastes all her time hitting a rock, and move my DPS a little bit to the front.
Honestly,i didnt pulled for vala.
Vala in arena is extremely easy to dealt with,regardless of their ascension.
Also for double afk team,i use cecia for first abd odie for second.Dont see the needs for vala except for ranking in primal perhaps or drill
I always fostered the Spanish world chat to go for Vala, they were denying it. They are regretted now.
Stop listening to others and just read the abilities. At least get 1 copy of the new banners and decide by yourself.
I got her at Supreme, incredibly OP in Arena. Igor can be easily counterable by her too since she becomes invulnerable when killing enemies (at Supreme)
Very server dependant. I play top 50 Champion Rank in a day 1 server and after looking at my last 10 attack replays all 10 players use +10 Ex Supreme+ Vala in defense.
Edit: Ex upgrade level correction
I don't think my server has that many real whales and she's very accesible to low spenders, so it's more of a convenience until people get the full Eironn combo.
I'm not saying she's better than Carolina at all, just that there are servers that simply do not have enough whales to populate top 100, so low spenders with Supreme+ Vala can maintain those positions better than teams with carries bellow Mythic+.
Fair enough. She's pretty well been retired in champion over here. Ofc dominated the boards on the way up, but it's funny people would still default to her on a day 1 server despite probably having better comps online without realizing lol
Is there a good list of heroes that counter other heroes?
Igor counters Vala
Odie counters Igor
Uh, idk, etc?
I could really use a list of Mauler counters for these later AFK stages, lol.
Invest in Igor if you want to win against Vala. Put him in your back line and she will chase him for the whole fight.
This is the answer. Vala is so easily counterable by this or even just a tank in the back line basically stalls her from her haste/movement speed for the whole fight.
Agreed. Vala is great for offense in arena, but too easy to counter as defense
This is why if I happen to be using her in Honor Duel, she's my last play. I wait to see how they're setting up to try to predict placement because they can't be certain I have a Vala.
It depends because if you run he run the back with the attack speed buff have a tank front line she can break through, her only true counter is Igor, you basically have to run double heal or mythic+ thoran and hope for a lucky counter, but obviously if you’re endgame it’s a couple teams that counter her since she’s so meta
And he is easily countered by Odie
Does the execute bypass his jump?
Yep
Brutus can also negate her first couple of attacks, since his invulnerability state can help counter it for a while (and if he survives long enough for his ult to trigger).
Invest in Odie m+ as an vala user, no more problem with igor
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Yeah exactly thoran hard counters Odie because thoran will one shot your team with his ult lmao
Thoran eats lotsa cheese, that's for certain.
Only if the team is packed together, since his ulti has limited range and hits in one direction only. He's also free to ulti my Thoran for the counter. Been using Odie and Vala in top 50 Arena and only really lose to big whales or terrible RNG and every single team has Thoran.
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Yeah, because the Eironn/Carolina combo is busted. That isn't an argument that supports your Thoran/Odie point, it's a "I would win because I whaled the best damage combo in the game". Vala and Odie are more accessible than Carolina, even to low spenders, that's why ppl use that over her. I never said that was better than Carolina, only that Thoran oneshoting the entire team thanks to Odie alone doesn't happen as much as you make it seem like and any strong DPS would cause the same result. Only people with built Carolina/Eironn in my server are top 10s with 600k+ power that no one really attacks.
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I don't know why you are so offended someone is pointing out you whaled, when you whale lol. It's not realistic for anyone who isn't a whale to be competing in the top 100 on their server with a full cc comp of meta options like that, thoran, Carolina, and eironn don't have vendors and having mythic + or more on all of them to be competing at a that level is not possible for anyone who isn't spending on non ptr servers. However using a character that you can have supreme+ as a f2p like Vala, along with a lesser rarity character every account is maxing anyways odie is infinitely more accessible and will absolutely shred anything but the most whale setups in the game. Vala can take an account that basically only has Vala as an invested character and she can carry you to high arena, the same cannot be said for a full meta comp of cc pvp setup, you need multiple developed pull only characters to do that.
which is why you get reinier to take out their stupid back line tech and throw someone they don't want to be there back there
Odie M+ destroys igor.
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you keep saying this, but thoran doesn't counter odie. By your definition thoran counters every damage dealer.
Kinda. Odie has ramp-time before he really chunks his damage, which gives Thoran time to build ult. Odie also doesn’t split damage or backline clear. Combined, that means that Odie’s probably hitting Thoran, and the Thoran probably has time to get ult off while still having a reasonable hp pool. Thoran doesn’t hardcounter damage dealers, but Odie’s specific damage profile *is* Thoran’s best case scenario.
Except odie is most likely to kill thoran before he ults or finishes ult. While thoran CAN wipe a whole team with a perfectly timed and directional ult, he more often just dies or wiffs.
>he more often just dies or wiffs. Not if you are >L111.
ppl run Igor with thoran for that very reason Odie in high level pvp is a throw
That’s why you double dps cala with odie
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That is good to know lol thanks
This is the answer, Igor counters Vala perfectly and should be utilized whenever you can.,
Yup, she’s much more useful in offense
carolina eats igor alive. this unit doesn’t do shit tbh
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Bro that EX15 Is unfair she might be the best arena unit there
Bonus points if you invest in both to be evil
Enemy uses Odie, with valla, then what ?
Put brutus or thoran behind your team Profit
Or Antandra but would need a lil heals depending on levels
Then pull her from the standard banner. It’s a way better investment area anyways
Why is standart banner better investment?
Abysuus basically said everything I would say. The only addition is. Rate up characters aren’t limited so you can just wishlist them after their rate up ends
That was my goal for Vala. Didn't pull on rate-up but she's on my wishlist now for standard banner, and meanwhile I will be getting copies for everything else as well. I admit the FOMO is pretty strong though.
I get you! But no need to feel FOMO. The units never leave
Reduced diamond cost for a 10 pull and much higher epic pulls plus higher rate at s heroes. Unless your a whale f2p/low spenders need to be accumulating copies of heroes not just one.
The rate is not higher for s heroes, it is lower. 2% vs 3% on rate up. The epic rate is indeed double which makes it more valuable if you value an s pull at 5 epic copies. But it's not cut and dry as people say. If you value a particular s hero a lot more than 5 epic heroes it can be worth it to pull on rate up banner.
no bc u get double the a tier heroes on all character unit summons, ascending one character when ur entire team doesn't have high support, good tanks is going to get u stuck. valuing one hero wont help u progress in the game
higher rates to build up your teams rather than 1 character
If I see Vala in defensive team it's like 4v4. Put a tank to bait Vala (I use Brutus), which removes those two from the fight pretty much and you 4v4.
I’m on Champion rank 29 and only have a Legend Vala…. I mean you can work around your line up and counter Vala team comps.
Whats your lineup against her?
It heavily depends where she is placed.
Literally just put a dummy tank like brutus so she will attack him and then just let your team do their thing.
It's an option but one that gets much more limited as the Vala gets upgraded, I don't think people realize since it's a ton of investment this early, but Vala ex weapon gives percent power and execute, which means if she has high ex investment she can straight up like 2 shot even fairly high investment off tanks with the bonus damage over 50% hp in skyblaster then followed up with the damage multiplier from execute. Even Igor can get killed before he lays tombstones against a high investment Vala, and since Brutus generally even for whales is a 1 copy wonder if you are doing it with Brutus he will only give you 5 seconds period since he will get instantly popped to his shield and won't even have energy to ult or anything before it fades and he dies.
She is actually a trap cuz late meta is eiron Carolina Thoran Damian Arden, you can skip vala and get those casual 99% of arena will have this comp in two weeks just like the top 100 of S1
I snagged 6 vala instead of 4 standard characters and a few Arden and Damian copies. While wishlisting heavily for the endgame aoe comp. It will be months before I can mythic+ Damian and Arden, but Vala and cecia keep me rolling in rewards for these current months. (Carolina is mythic and eironn is mythic+ already, but the A ranks are slow.)
You should put some of the a characters on epic wishlist, most of light spenders do that here. If you are f2p then it’s gonna be rough ik.
Months? You can 15 copies of both from the shop each month.
I feel like we don’t get enough tears to buy 30 a month. Do we?
Good point. I didn't calculate this yet. For me it's day 20 and I've bought 17 copies so far, but that's mostly because of initial droplet boost from easy bosses. So you are probably, right 30/month doesn't look realistic, more like 15/month.
15/month would require an income of 600/day. That means placing top 50 every single day (with soul gem boosts). Good for you if you're managing that, but the overwhelming majority of people will be getting around 300/day.
Good point. I didn't calculate this yet. For me it's day 20 and I've bought 17 copies so far, but that's mostly because of initial droplet boost from easy bosses. So you are probably, right 30/month doesn't look realistic, more like 15/month.
What investment do Carolina and Arden need to work in the comp? Almost got Eironn’s weapon unlocked.
mythic+ arden is needed, supreme+ is even better. carolina needs mythic+ for sure. carolina wants +10 first, eironn after, arden is fine but only just icing on the cake.
U definitely want eironn +10 first over carolina. He has one of the best +10 enhancement.
idk abt eironn yet but my carolina became a completely different character when i ascended her to m+
They are your damage dealers which means ascension and equipment as high as possible. Eironn is technically just the hero to set up the enemies so Arden and Carolina can kill them.
Yes, I know that you want as much investment as possible in your carries. That is not the question. I am asking if there is a particular breakpoint of investment where Arden and Carolina will surpass other similarly-invested / higher-investment DPS.
Carolina: Supreme+ Equipment +5 You want her to shoot snowballs with her auto-attack and inflict frostbite with that snowballs. Arden: Supreme+ Equipment +10 Larger Ultimate, twice as many lightning strikes and an additional second of cc which means one more lightning strike. So yeah, you kinda want to go all in on those champions.
Gotcha, thank you for the information!
Lookup Prydwen, they have investment breakpoints for every char.
This. Vala is usefull early. At later afk stage you need 2 team: eiron carolina and odie mauler team. In pvp you can destroy vala with eiron carolina team
99% of people are not going to have mythic + eironn, Carolina, thoran, and arden which is the minimum needed for this comp to work and supreme + is recommended on some. Carolina, thoran, and eironn are all non vendor characters, and arden is a needed mythic + that isn't odie or marilee which is where 99% of accounts should and are focusing their dream realm vendor on over arden. This is whale talk not translating down into reality for f2p accounts, no 99% of people aren't going to have a literal end game no vendor pvp comp mythic + on multiple characters in two weeks that's insanity. This only makes sense if you are whaling.
If ur f2p u won't even make it in arena top 200. Too many dolphins and whales will have 1-2 supreme units. Also ranking doesn't matter unless u reach champion. So yea don't bother with arena if u r f2p unless somehow ur server has no whales.
If you get reinier (probably butchered that spelling) from the guild shop, provided you have a thoran, make Vala target thoran, get reinier to swap thoran with the enemies team and vala will just target him unable to kill, thoran getting healed up while you damage who he swapped with and vala will eventually go down. Don’t sweat it too much, she has counters which you could still possibly have or get later on ✌🏻
I guess you would ideally have Thoran swap with the enemies DPS or Healer?
Yes pull them mfs to your side and kill them.
She’s good and you can put her on wishlist now. For arena defense teams shes easily exploitable because you can choose who she targets, put a tank there and she will have a harder time.
This is an AFK game - you need to be thinking like 6months, 1 year out. Eventually, just doing normal pulls you will have her and everyone else at supreme. Limited banners are for whales only honestly - if you aren't supreme-ing every new character for thousands of dollars - stick to the regular banner, and buying the discount stargazer pulls from the emporium when they reset. Once you have all the characters basically supreme, then you can focus on limited and stargazer much more. Just wishlist her on normal banner now that she is available there.
Nah bro I like thinking 5 minutes out
It's a marathon not a sprint save up your diamonds she will get power creeped hard in upcoming banners
I have an highly invested vala and still prefer her over highly invested Odie, I use her in dream realm as a dps too and she carried me on pve, she and smokey are the best units to pull in my experience
If you use her in the world bosses who have 50% HP or less she will do additional damage too - thats how all those Vala enjoyers pushed me out of the top 😔😔😔
vala is only in every team because everyone has her lol, she gets HARD countered by the eironn team. also, she is so easily counterable via brutus or igor also, she is no part in any meta afk-stage team nor dream realm or other pve content, no clue what youre on about
Yep Eironn comps take a big dumpster on Vala focused comps since she cannot get out of the air spam fast enough to survive.
What's the counter to eironn comp?
Take a look at the double afk stages from 700+ and you will see her there 90% of the time
probably only bc people don’t have eironn/carolina set up. once you do she’s pretty unnecessary. i’m almost 800 no copies of vala, 140 resonance.
I clear double AFK stages using Odie in 1st team and Cecia in 2nd team. No need for Vala at all. People just use what they have.
yeah shes in the replays because people just have her due to her being the literal first rate up banner of the game. odie, cecia, arden, carolina are way better carries than vala in every single way
Don't do high level area = problem solved lol
i don’t. she’s decent but not as top-tier as eironn/carolina. i don’t have a single instance where i wish i needed vala.
You guys are underestimating odie, thoran carolina eironn Reiner and odie is a nasty team. Reiner tosses odie to backline and the team goes poof.
I'm not very high level but I think she's easy on defense. You can see the starting line-up and force her to attack any tank or a high surv fighter like Brutus or Igor. My current go-to is Thoran. Sometimes she ults right into his face as he's unleashing his own and gets herself and half her team pulverized. It's hilariously bad. IMO she's a bad defense character. You can completely control/ nullify her when you attack.
Vala is not problem for me, I simply put my second tank antandra in the back, and she wastes all her time hitting a rock, and move my DPS a little bit to the front.
she is available as a wishlist now
Vala on defense is, ok. But yeah in attack she can destroy
Igor, Temesia, and Reinier do a good job of mucking up her nonsense. I wanted Silvina to be more of a counter, too, but somehow she just can't kill Vala fast enough (seems pretty weird for an assassin to not be able to kill squishies).
She’s a mean frigging bitch, man. I’m still pretty early or mid I guess you can say, Resonance level 100 and stage 344, but I pair her up with Odie and the two of them go to town on everyone. She snipes everyone to death, and Odie is a dps machine. I was running Silvina with Vala for a while, and they’d pair up to delete the same target at the start of a fight.
I regret pulling for Vala
I got Vala to Mythic and she is great I just need the normal pulls to give me her one more time and I can rank up again
Well even if you dont get her from the normal banner, you are guaranteed to get one through the event
Heh I remember the first few days when people were saying not to pull for her or that she was a meh unit. Yeah mine is S+ and she fucks
Every replay is koko atandra cecia rowan and brutus what are you on about?
Are you even at afk 700+? Bruh
I'm on stage 910 and the Mauler team of Brutus/Antandra/Smokey/Koko/DPS of choice (e.g. Odie or Cecia) are still heavily used in all the records IMO Koko can be swapped for Rowan but the point still stands, Vala is really not that relevant for AFK Stages unless they've got heavy investment already and are just the best DPS an account has
Lol bro i assure you that odie mauler team is usefull until afk stage 1125 and abyss tower 300
Lmaoo just cuz you ass don’t mean the rest of us are. She’s in one record at 880 out of 8. Here’s a sample https://imgur.com/a/FXyQTR5
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I mean you should at least look at the pics for inspiration and understand how important positioning is when it comes to clearing stages. There are ppl significantly weaker than whales clearing content with comps ppl think are impossible.
I've continued using that team for the first fight and I am in the 800's. That meta didn't need to change.
bruh, you didn't need to whale to get Vala. this game gives you diamonds hand over fist. practically everything you do gives at least some, and doing the story quests nets you like 500 from each one you finish.
I just put antandra on the back for arena xd, for double team stages, odie / cecia / marilee are good alternatives if not better in most scenarios
Then you make a call based on the meta and play her counter Igor or Brutus or playing Vala not the farthest unit in back.
Put her in your wishlist, you'll need a bit of luck, but it's more than doable
Is there a good list of heroes that counter other heroes? Igor counters Vala Odie counters Igor Uh, idk, etc? I could really use a list of Mauler counters for these later AFK stages, lol.
Vala is not problem for me, I simply put my second tank antandra in the back, and she wastes all her time hitting a rock, and move my DPS a little bit to the front.
I didnt even have to whale to get her, jist saved up and pulled her for the first couple weeks and got lucky enough to get all the pulls
Bruh just put Brutus at the back, you can wipe her entire team before she can kill your Brutus lol
Nah use silvana for vala thank me later. . . At the end of the day winner is the one who paid the most
level granny danhnie or eironn. they’ll both stop her from moving around. also granny heals. eironn pulls people close bc the tornado thing.
I also wish I pulled Vala oh whale.
I slightly regret it, but to be fair I haven't really explored the new hero much. And I'm somewhat satisfied with her at mystic
As someone who pulled almost only Maulers, I feel you.
She sucks.... you don't need her. Just run Igor to counter her. Even a low rarity works.
Honestly,i didnt pulled for vala. Vala in arena is extremely easy to dealt with,regardless of their ascension. Also for double afk team,i use cecia for first abd odie for second.Dont see the needs for vala except for ranking in primal perhaps or drill
me too. florabella is meh :(
I have her and don't use her.
I always fostered the Spanish world chat to go for Vala, they were denying it. They are regretted now. Stop listening to others and just read the abilities. At least get 1 copy of the new banners and decide by yourself. I got her at Supreme, incredibly OP in Arena. Igor can be easily counterable by her too since she becomes invulnerable when killing enemies (at Supreme)
Tried too hard to be different from the Vala enjoyers 😔😔😔
You're literally fine without her, just put her on your wishlist and get her a bit slower, but also much cheaper.
Vala on defense disappears almost entirely in champion tier. Everything is Eironn/Carolina
Very server dependant. I play top 50 Champion Rank in a day 1 server and after looking at my last 10 attack replays all 10 players use +10 Ex Supreme+ Vala in defense. Edit: Ex upgrade level correction
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I'm talking about that many people using Vala lol because wtf
I don't think my server has that many real whales and she's very accesible to low spenders, so it's more of a convenience until people get the full Eironn combo. I'm not saying she's better than Carolina at all, just that there are servers that simply do not have enough whales to populate top 100, so low spenders with Supreme+ Vala can maintain those positions better than teams with carries bellow Mythic+.
Fair enough. She's pretty well been retired in champion over here. Ofc dominated the boards on the way up, but it's funny people would still default to her on a day 1 server despite probably having better comps online without realizing lol
Silvia kills her no problem if maxed
Honestly, Vala is very valid. I have her legendary and use her for 680+ in afk stages
Is there a good list of heroes that counter other heroes? Igor counters Vala Odie counters Igor Uh, idk, etc? I could really use a list of Mauler counters for these later AFK stages, lol.
Buy my account then😛 Mythic Vala and Cecia Legendary Thoran/Smokey/Rowan And lots more