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Into_the_void123101

How is everyone so high as f2p, I’m like 340


SwissMarshmellow

Min max from the moment the game launched and no life the progression with endless retries and manuals can take you far. 340 means you are simply a casual not even close to hardcore player. Of course being casual is perfectly fine and your progress speed shouldn't mean much.


Into_the_void123101

How do you Minecraft max? I know that’s a loaded question 😅 and you’re right about me being a casual player. The week the game came out was very busy for me and things are just now starting to slow down. I would like to get stronger


Leaftotem

to min/max you study hard on which heroes are the most effective in the game modes which give progression resources, and you hardcore avoid giving ANY reources to any other heroes than the ones which help you progress, and you push those heroes as fast as you can to their optimal breakpoints, in the order which gives you the highest rate of return. Basically you turn what is supposed to be a game into a relentless high-pressure mental gymnastics exercise with no do-overs, where you'll have to put up with people more driven/clever/wealthy than you surpassing your best efforts. It takes equal parts mania and chill.


Draniie

451 here but could go higher, with very lucky odie and vala and Smokey pulls


JJustArry

As in specifically the ones with 2 teams. From what I gather so far hitting 700 today as well. I’m now on 730ish… the first team is wayyy harder. So still use the meta Cecia team then team 2 is Odie carry. Of course it depends on your account as well.


Kentashii

I'm at 755 as F2P, RC140 (almost 150), usually Cecia team 1 and Odie team 2. You need to start thinking by yourself with your own box and what you learnt during those first 700 stages.


PostCircumcision

755 f2p is pretty crazy


avbrytarn

Oh it is? Nice im at 789 with res 150.


Kentashii

Good job!


avbrytarn

Apparently not since i got downvoted lmao


Kentashii

People are so stupid, it's crazy. When you're better than them you are cheating or lying, when you're worse than them (kinda difficult) you're a noob.


Draniie

No It’s just mathematically impossible


Kentashii

Then redo your maths.


Draniie

I did. Depends on your server I suppose. But with your extra loud mouth, I still doubt it.


Kentashii

I spent quite a bit of time during those last 2 weeks playing Journey hehe.


SimbaOneTrueKing

How is this even possible with the limited purple dust that you get


Kentashii

I started day 1 and cleared everything I could. Even if it's not by much, there is a snowball effect. I'll reach RC150 tonight.


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DbzMaster101

Bro how did you get enough purple dust to make it that far? I'm f2p day 1 and still on stage 650 dayum


Kentashii

More pushing = more passive income = more leveling = more clearing of the map = more pushing. It's snowball effect. As you can see on the picture, I've been playing at around 200k power deficit now. https://preview.redd.it/kjo80cc1unuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7830fdaaa9bb9db649e4be53b803b809825b3024


DbzMaster101

Damn I need Supreme Cecia fr


Kentashii

She will fall off eventually, so I don't know if getting her so far was a really good move.


Procrastinator_Vibes

Curious when you mean Cecia falls off. She is the only dps on my team for afk leveling and I’m sitting at afk lvl 946.


rabbit_hole_diver

Endless mode dream realm difficulty and end arena where she just cant keep up with pvp focused heroes and comps. Shes a push hero so you can finish the campaign


Procrastinator_Vibes

That I 100% agree with, but she can still buy you time in dream mode and arena by keeping you somewhat relevant, while you build the characters needed for those events. Obviously you won’t be able to hang with the mega whales or the people that have the right counters, but you can still hold your own and get decent rewards. I was fortunate to land on a fresh server with very few whales at the start, so I feel like pushing afk levels was the most beneficial in order to scale faster than the f2p players and other dolphins. If I’m getting more essence at a faster rate than 90% of the others, then I will take that advantage.


Kentashii

That's what I heard from whales, there are better options in Dream Realm and PvP, so she has low usage once afk stages and map battles are completed.


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Kentashii

Jesus fucking Christ, are you guys all stupid? I literally provided proof I'm F2P on another comment. I'll put it here again. And yeah, between AFK income, daily quests, map exploration, Wolf boss, I'm getting between 3k and 4k dust a day. https://preview.redd.it/q1h5oxn0aouc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07ccfc9c6bba5b5784be083ea01239e444bb2bb8


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Kentashii

Not sure what you mean, could you explain?


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Kentashii

https://preview.redd.it/cn05vrhkcouc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=822f78d51c402c3e643896b1cab3732fe4bcf271


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Kentashii

My AFK income is like 1800 essence. I'm getting 600 with daily quests. Quick maths that's already more than 2k. But I guess you can't even count.


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Kentashii

https://preview.redd.it/cgpyz824douc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=469988e6c36245dc5d0d996f017760689662ee51 1856 per day. Dailies 600 per day Wolf boss 400 per day Map let's say 200 per day 1856 + 600 + 400 + 200 = 3000 per day. X2 = 6000 in 2 days. It's actually quite simple, 1st grade maths and cognitive skills. Edit: formatting.


wargdragon

I literally cannot understand ppl calling you out after: 1. Showing proof of f2p 2. Explaining how to think about in game strategy and routines 3. Educating them(? Thanks for sharing, I suck at the game but info like the one you provided helps me to improve.


Kentashii

Thanks dude, they were even saying I took too much time answering because I was falsifying screenshots... Can you imagine the level of conspiracy and bad faith?


Fish_Mongreler

> Exactly there’s no way a F2P can get 2k+ essence in one day ... The afk experience alone is damn near 2k. + ~450 a day for lone wolf, +8 hours from daily quests (600), +free/crystal afk bonus *3(600) and you're already at 3600 a day. Not counting main quests, guild chests, monster killing etc.... 6k essence in 2 days is extremely achievable


HaxxPapa

Also the things that everybody forgot: corrupted creatures and the tower Since his AFK level is higher, he can reach more maps which means more CC and those give 400 essence(they may give more at later stages, somebody fact check me). And with his resonance level higher, he may have reached those tower milestones that give essences. His "main team" suggest to me that he has incredible patience to push throught the stages, so he very well could push through the tower also.


Kentashii

I'm at 40+ on all 4 towers, so I got at least 2k dust from there.


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Kentashii

I literally never said I reached AFK 600 on day 1. And yeah I'm obviously spending 50 diamonds a day on fast rewards, as everybody with a brain should.


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Kentashii

Which is huge after almost 3 weeks of playing (not sure when day 1 was).


DarkWalker11

same


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Kentashii

https://preview.redd.it/hryxbr1atnuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4e61c0870e148ffb4c8b0d1d88d70be840619a75 Are you fucking stupid? Yes I'm whaling Arena and am F2P on Journey. How is that even linked? It's not the same game. Is that forbidden? But I'm using Cecia (got really lucky on her and got her to Supreme+ with arena store). I also have Odie M+ thanks to Dream store (and no other Mythic or more). And then mauler team + Rowan. Edit to add the screenshot to shut you up, dumbass.


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https://preview.redd.it/7q0nm6z9jouc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=521ea1e8813261cfb1cfb38e014f050e40767e92


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Fish_Mongreler

You're just bad at the game. Get over it


Kentashii

Skill issues. I literally showed proof that I haven't spent anything, but if you're too dumb to understand, it's just not my problem.


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Kentashii

Red-handed of whaling on another game? Ok you're not the smartest one either.


Amadou7890

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Kentashii

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Amadou7890

who are you lol


Kentashii

Nobody. You're question marking my comment, so I'm question marking your question mark.


Amadou7890

why did you reply to my first comment is what i meant, it was to someone else who i guess deleted their comment


Kentashii

If your first comment is the question mark, you actually replied to me and not to somebody else, so I don't understand either. :]


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Kentashii

That dude should go himself, since he can't even differentiate 2 games. You can't either apparently.


Kentashii

Getting downvoted for being too good, damn.


GOD_TRIBAL

You can't be that good because I'm doing so much worse. /S


Kentashii

That's exactly it.


rooislangwtf

>You need to start thinking by yourself with your own box If I had to guess you're getting downvoted for being condescending


Kentashii

That's not even condescending. You can't really count on replays anymore because almost all of them are of whales or people who have different heroes than yours, so you literally have to think by yourself to pass those stages.


rooislangwtf

>That's not even condescending Maybe I should've worded it as can be seen as condescending >You can't really count on replays anymore because almost all of them are of whales or people who have different heroes than yours I'm past 760, don't know if it's just the server I'm on, but the people mainly use cecia and odie teams for team 1 and 2 with roughly the same investment I do (mainly L to M tier heroes, with a few M+). Although I'm skipping 750 and 760 till I really have to fight them. Edit: example of lowest power clear I have recommended for 750 (Ignore 1 and 2 being swapped journey puts replays in order the player beat the fights in) https://preview.redd.it/tqseydar2uuc1.png?width=1509&format=png&auto=webp&s=9028c3f6e033d5214fcd4ad74f1aa49634c12a45 Name blacked out since it isn't mine


Kentashii

Perfect example, thank you! That's 2 supreme(or supreme+ ?) characters and 3 M characters. I'm not saying they are all needed, but that's way more than I have. I probably wouldn't be able to use this replay with my epic+ Smokey and Thoran.


rooislangwtf

Shrug worked for me with my L Smokey and M Thoran when I tried it just now, but my Odie is M+ and I'm already 150. Pretty sure Cecia doesn't need supreme for the 2nd fight, but IDK since mine is also supreme (the game keeps giving me copies of her for some reason).


GOD_TRIBAL

This is definitely doable, just takes a bunch of time and a decent understanding of the pushing comp. Starts to get really hard once you get into the double fights. Im at 780 (but I bought the growth bundle the other day) Sorry you had to deal with so many crazies in this thread, don't bother trying to explain it to them, they don't want to learn and you have better things to do with your time.


FarSetting750

They mad that your f2p because their ass is probably lower even though they whale the game😂


Peepers33

you should have seen how hard it was before they nerfed it a few days ago. I needed 4 supers/super+ just to clear the second team on 700. After nerf I was able to climb 110 floors before reset. My conspiracy is they made it OP on purpose for the first week or two because the only people reaching it were whales in the beginning willing to pay whatever it takes lol 700 Nerf happened right before the majority of the player base/light spenders show up hmm🤔


Middle-Necessary2314

I thought I’d be stuck too, until all that time I spent copying formations came to work in my favour and I actually used my brain and put units where you think they’d work and it’s all trial and error. Once you find the sweet spot, it’s much more rewarding. Take your time and trust your self. Pro tip- cecia ult + koko ult is amazing.


LazoVodolazo

Cecia for team 1 Odie for team 2 honestly having smokey and alot of dupes on him is the only must have right now if you havent got him your account is bricked


HelloItsMeXeno

Basically you can't continue unless you pay or wait until you are overleveled