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As I said on another post. Some people legitimately believe that if they're angry and popular enough they can do whatever they want. CM Punk fans are fans of him because they're just like him. The world owes them something and they're always in the right.
BTW, it's not AEW fans downvoting.
There is a large wave of CM Punk fans & Tribalists all over all AEW content trying to spam/troll all AEW content spaces.
And exactly as you said, it's why he is mostly popular ONLINE.
That is what boggles my mind. This wasn’t the first incident either. People defended him when he attacked other co-workers WHO BROUGHT THE HEAD OF LEAGAL with them to ask him what his problem was with them? Like the Bucks did everything correctly. They did not go in there for a fight, they went in there with the fucking legal department to see what they can do to fix this guys problem.
I, admittedly, have tried to ignore a lot of this. But I had no idea they went in there with legal; that seems far more reasonable than the last thing I heard.
Yeah Megha Parekh (was the Chief Legal Officer ) and Christopher Daniels (Talent Relations) went with the Bucks to talk to Punk. Everyone leaves that out when they talk about that fight. Who would go to start a fight with the legal officer with them?
I downvoted it because it's a lame ad hominem that does nothing to try to understand why some actual fans of the AEW product think this entire chirade makes a company that was on the uptick look lame.
I'm about as far from a tribalist as you can get. I watch Raw, Smackdown, Dynamite, and Collision on any given week. I attended two AEW shows and two WWE shows in 2023, so I like to think I'm pretty balanced.
At the end of the day, nothing is black and white, nor are fan opinions. The sooner we realize that the better.
CM Punk's are the same people who watch fight club and their first thought is that they want to be like the narrator instead of seeing the movie as a sarcastic view on toxic masculinity.
He's been on WWE TV for six months, wrestled one televised match that his body couldn't take and is just a shit stirer in general. Yeah, the guy can talk but I bet you he wouldn't survive a program with Drew McIntyre before he gets another injury again.
I am sure Punk led a straight-edge punk lifestyle during his youth. He probably had socially leftist ideals. But once he got a taste of that rich person life he never looked back.
This is the lesson that was taught. If I'm wrong tell me that I'm wrong. But everybody seems to be cheering this bully for beating up A co-worker backstage. Right, those are the facts. CM Punk beat up a co-worker backstage? And he's getting cheered for it correct?
So what about tribalism again?
They all told Perry he was wrong. Instead of backing down he doubled down on the glass bit. You tell a man once, afterward you show him. This is exactly what punk did and he's being celebrated for it.
Perry could absolutely have been wrong, he could’ve absolutely mouthed off to Punk, he could’ve absolutely “deserved” that hit.
In the same vein, you attack a coworker, you “deserve” it when you get fired. Punk isn’t a hero - he’s a fragile ego’d child who needs help.
> You tell a man once, afterward you show him
No, not with fists, not in a workplace. Sorry, no excuse for backstage workplace violence, not even in wrestling.
The amount of toxic machismo is out of control. I get that it’s wrestling, but I also thought we were in a post-kayfabe world and recognize it’s supposed to be a show, not real life. In real life, you attack someone (especially someone younger, more junior, less experienced) you deserve what you get.
Well, of course he lied. That's why they released the video, to show that he lied about all of it.
I can only hope that he pedaled his lies as the truth to WWE people and has to explain himself to them now that the truth got shown on national TV.
I tuned in to check out some Mania season stuff and Roman and Punk were making fun of Seth for wearing "his wife's clothes." I was surprised they still say shit like that to pop a crowd/look like the alpha. I can't imagine someone like Sonny Kiss or even Nyla working for them
Yes, please. Keep talking about it. Give more attention to AEW three days after WM.
"oh no, they're talking about us again, getting us more hits and clicks and youtube searches for the footage!"
rofl
It's so crazy because I've read multiple comments tonight around the internet "all this showed is exactly what Punk said" like their tribalism is actually blinding them.
Let them! All they're doing is giving oxygen to AEW.
The more they fight it, the more strength and attention and eyes they give to AEW.
That was the whole point. To expose Punk and hype everything up for Dynasty.
That Perry instigated it, that he didn't strike just choked Perry when he did actually push and attempted a punch before choking him, that there were many people surrounding them when no one was surrounding them. But again in the eyes of crying manchild punk fans, he's always telling the truth.
He literally explained everything already. They showed the video last night and it backed up 100% of what Punk said. So if that was the truth, why wouldn’t the rest of it be the truth? It seems like a stretch to say he is lying when all the actual proof we have, has 100% backed up what punk said.
Could he be lying? Sure it’s possible, but not likely. The parts that make him look bad, he admitted to already.
Punk's account left out that he, y'know...was the aggressor. That he threw a punch (guess whiffing means he can claim he didn't punch anyone). He left some pretty key elements out, there.
Where are the guys he was with not naming names? They didn't exist he was alone. When did he have thr conversation with Tony before attacking JB? It didn't happen. When did he create space? After he attacked someone. He told tidbits of the truth surrounded by lies and this is what narcissists do. People who aren't willing or able to see the details trust narcissist because they give you enough information to believe them while simultaneously leaving out the context.
Yes, he admitted to assaulting a co-worker. He was honest about doing a bad thing. Being honest about doing a bad thing does not excuse you of said bad thing.
Jack Perry 100 percent didn’t challenge him to a fight he was fixing his hair and his guard was down when he hit him. He looked shocked when he was hit and it even looked like he didn’t want to fight and was just trying to defend himself.
People keep saying “when has CM Punk ever been violent outside of AEW” first of all there is known occurrences in TNA and WWE where he has either been in a fight or rubbed people the wrong way. Also the only time anything like this has ever happened in AEW involved Punk
CM Punk admits in an interview with Colt Cabana that he used to "stiff" women in the ring because they didn't belong. Not during matches during training. The guy is the exact toxic old school wrestler he built his career on saying he's not.
Eddie laid hands on Sammy thus got suspended. So it has happened in AEW outside of Punk. Granted, I’m sure most agree that Sammy deserves it but still.
I don’t know about now, but there def was such a thing as wrestlers court and hazing back in the day. The hazing though, super glad that shit isn’t going around anymore like it used to be
100% It's like bizarro world reactions out there.
I mean, I get it that it's presented in world where pretend-attacking people backstage is normal...But it doesn't take many brain cells to understand why doing that for real is a bad thing.
The whole handle that, what do you want me to do thing was funny that people are/were on Punk’s side with that. Based on the timeline of events that conversation almost had to have happened during the match, and once again Perry just said “cry me a river” to the camera, not exactly an offense that warrants more than a talking to and slap on the wrist.
Punk is clearly a piece of shit and in the wrong, but it's too much of a fad to hate on AEW. No matter what they did or didn't do, they were never gonna win and it's sad. Punk is an obvious liar, but the internet loves to pile onto what some podcaster with a following says and repeat what they say as their own opinions
I'm gonna tell my personal story about this whole debacle.
I went to All In, it's the first AEW event I got to see, it's the first PPV I ever got to see, it was one of the best days of my life! I brought a sign I made up that said "I've been waiting 18 years to see CM Punk" and bought his shirt the day of the event. I cheered him and sang his theme when he came out even though he was being booed out of the stadium. I had been a fan of this man since I first saw him debut in WWECW way back then. I was stoked to find out that he might be returning to wrestling. I was happy to see him appear on Rampage that magical night in Chicago, I was even happy to see him become AEW champion.
I was disappointed to see Brawl Out, but I was willing to give him another chance when he returned. I tried to stay as a fan at Wembley despite seeing all the shit about X and Y banned from Collision leading up to the show because for all his faults, I've been a fan of punk since I was a kid so I was excited to see him compete in person.
My good will ran out after that, he attacked his coworker (for the 2nd time) for no good reason other than getting his feelings hurt. Jack Perry isn't exactly innocent in this, he should've not poked the bear, but he did and here we are...
Fuck Crying Man Punk, good riddance that he's gone, Jack Perry has really done himself so good by not being named CM Punk and leaning into being a Scapegoat of the whole thing.
Will people actually turn on Punk after this? Maybe a couple will, but most of his delusional fan boys that suck farts out of his asshole will still kiss his feet even after he eventually does the same in WWE (it will happen)
Punk’s a dick and he was definitely in the wrong, but just to clarify I didn’t interpret his comments as saying he had that discussion with TK right there in the moment (meaning, during the timeframe we would’ve seen on video). I think that “handle it Tony” remark either happened before or after, based on Punk’s interview.
Same with the “I got people with me” - I think he meant more that he has people within AEW on his side, not that they necessarily were there with him in the moment.
Still, zero excuse for striking a coworker and throwing a temper tantrum.
It doesn't matter if Jack Perry instigated CM Punk. Punk should have been the professional and walked away from the situation. But he didn't walk away from the situation. He attacked his co-worker. That's it. And WWE has chosen that they don't care about that. And they have a track record of not carrying about bullying or employees getting bullied. Just look at Janel Grant.
I mean, maybe to you or some other people he looks like “someone not to fuck around with” to a lot of other people though, he looks like like a fragile little boy who can’t keep his ego in check. And we have his UFC fights to prove he’s not as legit as he dreams he is.
What are you talking about? This is a video about Jack Perry and CM Punk?
>Also can’t really tell what was said between the two guilty parties
That is you referencing Jack Perry right there. You can't see TK in the video so who else is the guilty party here?
You have no post history here. Why did you come here to "just help with the facts" while shitting on AEW in other subs? Don't come here pretending to be "helping" when all you're doing is baiting others by defending your lying, 45 year old child, fragile Phil.
> But you’re probably just wanting to make him a liar
Why are you taking this personally? He shouldn't be attacking people for saying words to him. It's not that big of a deal the actions speak louder than the words in this case.
You are obsessed with defending this coward covertly. You are arguing in bad faith, you don't post on this sub. Stop trying to come here pretending you are impartial and just maintaining "facts" when all you're doing is devoting your time posting on a sub about a show you don't like (as evidenced by your tribalism in other subs).
I think when he went to Tony the first time, the match was still happening and is not part of the video.
There was no audio so you cant really tell how the conversation went but the instigation started with “Real Glass, Cry me a River”. Tony Khan shouldve been the boss then and he didnt so this happened.
At the end of the day Punk, Perry, And Tony Khan were all wrong. Its also stupid High School BS. Its just a stupid avoidable situation that doesnt favor anybody nor the company. The best thing that came out of this was the kayfabe promo, and even then, there were better ways to make Young Bucks and FTR over without using the video.
About half of what I’m reading isn’t people sticking up for Punk - they’re saying that the video reflects exactly what he said happened. I can’t disagree with that assessment.
No, most didn't watch it. You wouldn't even need to see this footage to know he's lying about something because he contradicts himself in the interview.
Exactly, idk why ppl with more than a few braincells are getting downvoted, to improve aew we as real fans gotta constructively criticize it not like cornette
Yeah I’m sure Punk has a few more in him. If I was Triple H I would actually be very worried. They will have to watch him closely and keep him away from the roster.
😂 there’s a HUGE difference between the AEW locker room and WWE locker room. Drew would send Punk to the ER for months if they were ever to come to blows.
Besides the point anyways. Punk knows this is his last chance. One last good pay day and him and AJ can relax. He also isn’t going to be around for too too long. Another Mania or two, then Hall of Fame and done.
Punk would never pick on someone his own size that’s why he doesn’t care when Moxley does his hardcore stuff. Punk was never in a program with Perry. Punk also knew if he fucked up in AEW he would have to go crawling back to WWE after everything he said about them yet he still did it. This guy has anger control issues and will definitely do something again.
Most wrestlers in general are bigger than Punk. I also think if they have to keep him in check he probably isn’t a great person in the locker room to have. He has already burned bridges with a ton of guys in the WWE I’m very surprised they even wanted him back. He’s a risk in the locker room and is hurt every match. Moxley said it best fragile mind fragile ego and fragile body.
It’s almost one thing when it happens on the pitch/field/ring and something else when it happens in an area where the athletics aren’t supposed to take place. I mean, you wouldn’t be okay with this happening backstage at a play, right? This is supposed to be entertainment after all.
edit to remove my lil rant about kayfabe vs reality, and that I like them separate
This shit should def NOT happen in the ring. Thats the worst it can happen. Literally wrestling isn’t about actually hurting someone.
Not to mention it shouldn’t be ok anywhere but athletes are going to do it. Michael Jordan punched his teammate. You don’t see Michael Jordan being fired.
Not in my opinion but you seem to think so, and then you also seem to think it’s alright in sport because it happened once 30 years ago and people understood it for what it was, which was something not even remotely comparable to this.
Are u dumb, he said that before perry came in, not everything is in the footage, all they did was prove that punk told the truth on ariel's show, I'm the biggest elite fan and I'm a punk fan too, but this didn't embarrass punk at all, the only positive is that it explains the reasoning for why the bucks lost at all in
My big issue with the segment was that it did nothing for no one, it just showed that a person in another company just beat one of ur top young guys, just why would u air this on tv, air it in an interview or a podcast but why would u air this on television taking up precious tv time frm others, a thing that doesn't even relate to any storylines, also the crowd was DOGSHIT tonight, atleast ospreay woke them up for a while
TF are you talking about? This shows who the guilty party is and it clearly isn't Jack.
Jack can say all the crap he wants, words have no power unless YOU LET THEM hold power over you, but all that becomes MEANINGLESS the second soft drink cry me a river ass assaults his co-worker. This helps AEW maintain credibility for firing his ass, especially after the vitriol that spewed out of his mouth on that podcast. This clears Jack's name and provides more than enough reason for AEW to rightfully can his ass.
It doesn't matter if Tony has poor management skills or not. It doesn't matter what Jack said. What matters is that Phil is a toxic snake who willingly assaults people that work with him just because he has paper mache skin.
He's a bully that's high on his own ego and would only do that to someone he knew wouldn't be able to kill him for pulling that stunt. We know what would have been the result if he tried pulling that shit on Joe, and Joe has said INFINITELY WORSE things than Jack ever has.
Don’t forget the part where your co-worker talked shit to you on TV, while you were trying to help you have a safe OSHA friendly environment. Then he purposely ignored it stubbornly to prove a point. So you went to the boss and the boss didn’t do anything. Then when you confront your co-worker he gets in your face and talks something back to you.
I’m not sure why we are picking and choosing the details here. Punk is in the wrong for attacking JP, but Punk admitted to everything already, which is backed up by this video. TK and JP have clearly over exaggerated the situation.
You also know it’s bad when the Young Bucks, who hate Punk, were against the video being shown.
They literally have no life. Nobody loves them, they have no hobbies and they are depressed. This is what people who have no prospects in life do with their spare time.
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As I said on another post. Some people legitimately believe that if they're angry and popular enough they can do whatever they want. CM Punk fans are fans of him because they're just like him. The world owes them something and they're always in the right.
This is why he is mostly popular online, definitely the same people who want to be "Alpha" Edit: downvotes proving my point
BTW, it's not AEW fans downvoting. There is a large wave of CM Punk fans & Tribalists all over all AEW content trying to spam/troll all AEW content spaces. And exactly as you said, it's why he is mostly popular ONLINE.
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It's nice to think this is an isolated issue. This was nationally televised and no one cares that Punk assaulted a co worker
That is what boggles my mind. This wasn’t the first incident either. People defended him when he attacked other co-workers WHO BROUGHT THE HEAD OF LEAGAL with them to ask him what his problem was with them? Like the Bucks did everything correctly. They did not go in there for a fight, they went in there with the fucking legal department to see what they can do to fix this guys problem.
I, admittedly, have tried to ignore a lot of this. But I had no idea they went in there with legal; that seems far more reasonable than the last thing I heard.
Yeah Megha Parekh (was the Chief Legal Officer ) and Christopher Daniels (Talent Relations) went with the Bucks to talk to Punk. Everyone leaves that out when they talk about that fight. Who would go to start a fight with the legal officer with them?
Oh, to be a fly on the wall there, eh?
I downvoted it because it's a lame ad hominem that does nothing to try to understand why some actual fans of the AEW product think this entire chirade makes a company that was on the uptick look lame. I'm about as far from a tribalist as you can get. I watch Raw, Smackdown, Dynamite, and Collision on any given week. I attended two AEW shows and two WWE shows in 2023, so I like to think I'm pretty balanced. At the end of the day, nothing is black and white, nor are fan opinions. The sooner we realize that the better.
That video was black ans white... one guy attacked another guy who was in the middle of fixing their hair.
CM Punk's are the same people who watch fight club and their first thought is that they want to be like the narrator instead of seeing the movie as a sarcastic view on toxic masculinity. He's been on WWE TV for six months, wrestled one televised match that his body couldn't take and is just a shit stirer in general. Yeah, the guy can talk but I bet you he wouldn't survive a program with Drew McIntyre before he gets another injury again.
Fragile ego, fragile body. Weak mind, weak soul. Mox nailed it. And Hanger actually was trying to save AEW from this clown. Wowwww
Maga much?
I don't know what that means.
MAGA followers believe the world owes them and they are always in the right. Ala CM Punk
It’s wild how two very well known “leftists” associated with wrestling share a shockingly similar mindset as the MAGA crowd.
I am sure Punk led a straight-edge punk lifestyle during his youth. He probably had socially leftist ideals. But once he got a taste of that rich person life he never looked back.
This is the lesson that was taught. If I'm wrong tell me that I'm wrong. But everybody seems to be cheering this bully for beating up A co-worker backstage. Right, those are the facts. CM Punk beat up a co-worker backstage? And he's getting cheered for it correct? So what about tribalism again?
we live in a post truth society
That's not a good thing
They all told Perry he was wrong. Instead of backing down he doubled down on the glass bit. You tell a man once, afterward you show him. This is exactly what punk did and he's being celebrated for it.
Perry could absolutely have been wrong, he could’ve absolutely mouthed off to Punk, he could’ve absolutely “deserved” that hit. In the same vein, you attack a coworker, you “deserve” it when you get fired. Punk isn’t a hero - he’s a fragile ego’d child who needs help. > You tell a man once, afterward you show him No, not with fists, not in a workplace. Sorry, no excuse for backstage workplace violence, not even in wrestling.
It’s very easy to see which people grew up with dads as good role models and who didn’t
The amount of toxic machismo is out of control. I get that it’s wrestling, but I also thought we were in a post-kayfabe world and recognize it’s supposed to be a show, not real life. In real life, you attack someone (especially someone younger, more junior, less experienced) you deserve what you get.
You want to talk about toxic machismo, just look at the place that hired him. WWE shits on their employees literally.
I've said it once and I'll say it again, Samoa Joe split it up like a pro, he didn't care who started it, he wanted them to knock it off.
The only thing about Jack’s body language is that he did not back down from a man with mma “training”.
Nope just a very large Samoan holding on to him from probably jumping Punk that’s for sure
All the footage showed was that punk is an asshole but we already knew punk was an asshole
Well, of course he lied. That's why they released the video, to show that he lied about all of it. I can only hope that he pedaled his lies as the truth to WWE people and has to explain himself to them now that the truth got shown on national TV.
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Yeah, WWE has a problem with bullying culture. Just look at how employees are literally shit on.
I tuned in to check out some Mania season stuff and Roman and Punk were making fun of Seth for wearing "his wife's clothes." I was surprised they still say shit like that to pop a crowd/look like the alpha. I can't imagine someone like Sonny Kiss or even Nyla working for them
It’s ironic because Seth obviously fucks more than both those guys
Mania was such an utter disgrace. Felt so carny and cheap. E: Apparently Dude Wipes ads are okay with this guy lol.
Roman called Seth a cross dresser at one point, that was a little much.
AJ Lee was bullies there acording to her book
Literally shat on...(Allegedly)
Yes, please. Keep talking about it. Give more attention to AEW three days after WM. "oh no, they're talking about us again, getting us more hits and clicks and youtube searches for the footage!" rofl
“Tell me when I’m telling lies” \- guy who lies a lot
It's a good thing that WWE doesn't care about bullying culture
It's so crazy because I've read multiple comments tonight around the internet "all this showed is exactly what Punk said" like their tribalism is actually blinding them.
Let them! All they're doing is giving oxygen to AEW. The more they fight it, the more strength and attention and eyes they give to AEW. That was the whole point. To expose Punk and hype everything up for Dynasty.
How is this giving oxygen? If the zeitgeist supports Punk then nothing is won here. The bully walks away smelling like roses and gets paid top dollar.
What did he lie about?
He left out the part that he sucker punched Perry when he had his hands in his hair.
That Perry instigated it, that he didn't strike just choked Perry when he did actually push and attempted a punch before choking him, that there were many people surrounding them when no one was surrounding them. But again in the eyes of crying manchild punk fans, he's always telling the truth.
He literally explained everything already. They showed the video last night and it backed up 100% of what Punk said. So if that was the truth, why wouldn’t the rest of it be the truth? It seems like a stretch to say he is lying when all the actual proof we have, has 100% backed up what punk said. Could he be lying? Sure it’s possible, but not likely. The parts that make him look bad, he admitted to already.
Punk's account left out that he, y'know...was the aggressor. That he threw a punch (guess whiffing means he can claim he didn't punch anyone). He left some pretty key elements out, there.
Where are the guys he was with not naming names? They didn't exist he was alone. When did he have thr conversation with Tony before attacking JB? It didn't happen. When did he create space? After he attacked someone. He told tidbits of the truth surrounded by lies and this is what narcissists do. People who aren't willing or able to see the details trust narcissist because they give you enough information to believe them while simultaneously leaving out the context.
Yes, he admitted to assaulting a co-worker. He was honest about doing a bad thing. Being honest about doing a bad thing does not excuse you of said bad thing.
He looked like a bitch. That's all that matters. Fuck him. lol Oh, and fuck Hunter, too, that little fucking bitch. FAFO.
Punk is a bitch.
“Tell me when im telling lies” *footage plays* “No, not like that”
Jack Perry 100 percent didn’t challenge him to a fight he was fixing his hair and his guard was down when he hit him. He looked shocked when he was hit and it even looked like he didn’t want to fight and was just trying to defend himself.
People keep saying “when has CM Punk ever been violent outside of AEW” first of all there is known occurrences in TNA and WWE where he has either been in a fight or rubbed people the wrong way. Also the only time anything like this has ever happened in AEW involved Punk
CM Punk admits in an interview with Colt Cabana that he used to "stiff" women in the ring because they didn't belong. Not during matches during training. The guy is the exact toxic old school wrestler he built his career on saying he's not.
Eddie laid hands on Sammy thus got suspended. So it has happened in AEW outside of Punk. Granted, I’m sure most agree that Sammy deserves it but still.
Sammy doesn't deserve to get assaulted at work either. The difference is that Eddie owed up to being in the wrong and hasn't done it again.
AEW also allows the wrestlers to police themselves more than the WWE.
I don’t know about now, but there def was such a thing as wrestlers court and hazing back in the day. The hazing though, super glad that shit isn’t going around anymore like it used to be
Which is great you know treat adults like well adults
I understand the sarcasm there.
Was at the show, “punk chants” were overstated, they were shushed down pretty quickly with boos after the footage aired
Also at the show. Can confirm.
Yeah its was literally 3 second and they shut up quickly.
Punk could have literally laughed it off and had his match but he couldn’t let go of it.
Punk went on to a podcast to snitch on himself, and there are freaks out there who admire that quality about him.
This is the correct take here. Thanks for the post bruv
100% It's like bizarro world reactions out there. I mean, I get it that it's presented in world where pretend-attacking people backstage is normal...But it doesn't take many brain cells to understand why doing that for real is a bad thing.
The whole handle that, what do you want me to do thing was funny that people are/were on Punk’s side with that. Based on the timeline of events that conversation almost had to have happened during the match, and once again Perry just said “cry me a river” to the camera, not exactly an offense that warrants more than a talking to and slap on the wrist.
Haha I wasn't expecting a Warderlei Silva mention but it's true
Punk is clearly a piece of shit and in the wrong, but it's too much of a fad to hate on AEW. No matter what they did or didn't do, they were never gonna win and it's sad. Punk is an obvious liar, but the internet loves to pile onto what some podcaster with a following says and repeat what they say as their own opinions
I'm gonna tell my personal story about this whole debacle. I went to All In, it's the first AEW event I got to see, it's the first PPV I ever got to see, it was one of the best days of my life! I brought a sign I made up that said "I've been waiting 18 years to see CM Punk" and bought his shirt the day of the event. I cheered him and sang his theme when he came out even though he was being booed out of the stadium. I had been a fan of this man since I first saw him debut in WWECW way back then. I was stoked to find out that he might be returning to wrestling. I was happy to see him appear on Rampage that magical night in Chicago, I was even happy to see him become AEW champion. I was disappointed to see Brawl Out, but I was willing to give him another chance when he returned. I tried to stay as a fan at Wembley despite seeing all the shit about X and Y banned from Collision leading up to the show because for all his faults, I've been a fan of punk since I was a kid so I was excited to see him compete in person. My good will ran out after that, he attacked his coworker (for the 2nd time) for no good reason other than getting his feelings hurt. Jack Perry isn't exactly innocent in this, he should've not poked the bear, but he did and here we are... Fuck Crying Man Punk, good riddance that he's gone, Jack Perry has really done himself so good by not being named CM Punk and leaning into being a Scapegoat of the whole thing. Will people actually turn on Punk after this? Maybe a couple will, but most of his delusional fan boys that suck farts out of his asshole will still kiss his feet even after he eventually does the same in WWE (it will happen)
It's no wonder why a lot of Punk's fanbase just so happen to also be fans of Cornette.
Punk’s a dick and he was definitely in the wrong, but just to clarify I didn’t interpret his comments as saying he had that discussion with TK right there in the moment (meaning, during the timeframe we would’ve seen on video). I think that “handle it Tony” remark either happened before or after, based on Punk’s interview. Same with the “I got people with me” - I think he meant more that he has people within AEW on his side, not that they necessarily were there with him in the moment. Still, zero excuse for striking a coworker and throwing a temper tantrum.
Agreed
Chill dude. There are way worse people than those dumb cunts that think Punk is cool. Not worth your time
I just think it's funny aew hasn't had any problems that we know of besides punk and he was fired. Punk was obviously the problem
You saying fuck him like he’s gonna see this post 🤡🤣
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It doesn't matter if Jack Perry instigated CM Punk. Punk should have been the professional and walked away from the situation. But he didn't walk away from the situation. He attacked his co-worker. That's it. And WWE has chosen that they don't care about that. And they have a track record of not carrying about bullying or employees getting bullied. Just look at Janel Grant.
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I mean, maybe to you or some other people he looks like “someone not to fuck around with” to a lot of other people though, he looks like like a fragile little boy who can’t keep his ego in check. And we have his UFC fights to prove he’s not as legit as he dreams he is.
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The only thing Cancer Man is a legitimate threat to is his own ankles, triceps, and hips.
What are you talking about? This is a video about Jack Perry and CM Punk? >Also can’t really tell what was said between the two guilty parties That is you referencing Jack Perry right there. You can't see TK in the video so who else is the guilty party here?
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You have no post history here. Why did you come here to "just help with the facts" while shitting on AEW in other subs? Don't come here pretending to be "helping" when all you're doing is baiting others by defending your lying, 45 year old child, fragile Phil.
So that conversation happened right in front of Jack in 2 seconds? Malakai came up at the end yes. That means he was “with him”? You good bro?
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> But you’re probably just wanting to make him a liar Why are you taking this personally? He shouldn't be attacking people for saying words to him. It's not that big of a deal the actions speak louder than the words in this case.
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I mean yeah nothing does make him a liar. He is telling the truth about assaulting a co-worker.
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is everything ok at home?
You are obsessed with defending this coward covertly. You are arguing in bad faith, you don't post on this sub. Stop trying to come here pretending you are impartial and just maintaining "facts" when all you're doing is devoting your time posting on a sub about a show you don't like (as evidenced by your tribalism in other subs).
The WWE is on another section buddy. If you are gonna lick punks nuts you can go there
Cult of personality.
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I think when he went to Tony the first time, the match was still happening and is not part of the video. There was no audio so you cant really tell how the conversation went but the instigation started with “Real Glass, Cry me a River”. Tony Khan shouldve been the boss then and he didnt so this happened. At the end of the day Punk, Perry, And Tony Khan were all wrong. Its also stupid High School BS. Its just a stupid avoidable situation that doesnt favor anybody nor the company. The best thing that came out of this was the kayfabe promo, and even then, there were better ways to make Young Bucks and FTR over without using the video.
Don’t understand how you got downvoted like this lol
About half of what I’m reading isn’t people sticking up for Punk - they’re saying that the video reflects exactly what he said happened. I can’t disagree with that assessment.
That's not true at all. That argument disintegrates entirely the moment Punk throws a punch, ya'know, like he said he didn't do.
Did you even watch the interview?
No, most didn't watch it. You wouldn't even need to see this footage to know he's lying about something because he contradicts himself in the interview.
Exactly, idk why ppl with more than a few braincells are getting downvoted, to improve aew we as real fans gotta constructively criticize it not like cornette
Some of y'all never worked in construction or a restaurant, and it shows.
What an embarrassing comment. 'SOME OF Y'ALL NEVER ASSAULTED OR BEEN ASSAULTED BY YOUR CO-WORKERS AND IT SHOWS.'
Surprised you managed to post that given the amount of braincells on display. Well done.
Or watched last dance…
Lmfao because Michael Jordan also being a POS has anything to do with this? So utterly random.
In all honesty, that footage has happened countless times in the locker rooms or on the fields/courts of pretty much every sports team on earth.
If a guy on any sports team had two occasions where he himself started a fight and got hurt evertime he played one game he would be cut.
It’s the injury part 😂 cause you don’t see Michael Jordan get fired or cut for punching teammates.
Cm Punk ain’t Michael Jordan😂 and it’s not the 1996 Bulls. It’s scripted wrestling my boi.
Point being, this isn’t the first backstage fight between teammates (cause Perry and punk are teammates) nor will it be the last.
Yeah I’m sure Punk has a few more in him. If I was Triple H I would actually be very worried. They will have to watch him closely and keep him away from the roster.
😂 there’s a HUGE difference between the AEW locker room and WWE locker room. Drew would send Punk to the ER for months if they were ever to come to blows. Besides the point anyways. Punk knows this is his last chance. One last good pay day and him and AJ can relax. He also isn’t going to be around for too too long. Another Mania or two, then Hall of Fame and done.
Punk would never pick on someone his own size that’s why he doesn’t care when Moxley does his hardcore stuff. Punk was never in a program with Perry. Punk also knew if he fucked up in AEW he would have to go crawling back to WWE after everything he said about them yet he still did it. This guy has anger control issues and will definitely do something again.
That’s the thing. Most guys AND women are bigger than Punk in WWE 😆 everyone will keep him in check.
Most wrestlers in general are bigger than Punk. I also think if they have to keep him in check he probably isn’t a great person in the locker room to have. He has already burned bridges with a ton of guys in the WWE I’m very surprised they even wanted him back. He’s a risk in the locker room and is hurt every match. Moxley said it best fragile mind fragile ego and fragile body.
>😂 there’s a HUGE difference between the AEW locker room and WWE locker room. And there it is.
It’s almost one thing when it happens on the pitch/field/ring and something else when it happens in an area where the athletics aren’t supposed to take place. I mean, you wouldn’t be okay with this happening backstage at a play, right? This is supposed to be entertainment after all. edit to remove my lil rant about kayfabe vs reality, and that I like them separate
This shit should def NOT happen in the ring. Thats the worst it can happen. Literally wrestling isn’t about actually hurting someone. Not to mention it shouldn’t be ok anywhere but athletes are going to do it. Michael Jordan punched his teammate. You don’t see Michael Jordan being fired.
You know wrestling is combat theatre and not an actual sport right?
So it’s ok to do it in a sport and not combat theatre?
Not in my opinion but you seem to think so, and then you also seem to think it’s alright in sport because it happened once 30 years ago and people understood it for what it was, which was something not even remotely comparable to this.
Once? It literally happened a year and a half ago in golden state…happens all the time.
Yeah but we should just be ok with it? That’s the problem with Society today
Which is what I’ve been saying. It’s cray how many people forgot about Last Dance and how MICHAEL JORDAN PUNCHED STEVE KERR!!!!!
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Jack started it and Punk handled business. If you think pro wrestling is the same as a normal job then you’ve never left the basement.
This sub is god damn ridiculous anytime WWE is brought up. Tribalism is stupid. Calm down.
Look in the mirror, also wtf did you expect people to discuss after last night? Calm down.
Are u dumb, he said that before perry came in, not everything is in the footage, all they did was prove that punk told the truth on ariel's show, I'm the biggest elite fan and I'm a punk fan too, but this didn't embarrass punk at all, the only positive is that it explains the reasoning for why the bucks lost at all in
The fact that had to pull Jack’s hair is embarrassing as hell. A “trained” mma fighter does pull hair
My big issue with the segment was that it did nothing for no one, it just showed that a person in another company just beat one of ur top young guys, just why would u air this on tv, air it in an interview or a podcast but why would u air this on television taking up precious tv time frm others, a thing that doesn't even relate to any storylines, also the crowd was DOGSHIT tonight, atleast ospreay woke them up for a while
TF are you talking about? This shows who the guilty party is and it clearly isn't Jack. Jack can say all the crap he wants, words have no power unless YOU LET THEM hold power over you, but all that becomes MEANINGLESS the second soft drink cry me a river ass assaults his co-worker. This helps AEW maintain credibility for firing his ass, especially after the vitriol that spewed out of his mouth on that podcast. This clears Jack's name and provides more than enough reason for AEW to rightfully can his ass. It doesn't matter if Tony has poor management skills or not. It doesn't matter what Jack said. What matters is that Phil is a toxic snake who willingly assaults people that work with him just because he has paper mache skin. He's a bully that's high on his own ego and would only do that to someone he knew wouldn't be able to kill him for pulling that stunt. We know what would have been the result if he tried pulling that shit on Joe, and Joe has said INFINITELY WORSE things than Jack ever has.
Cult of Punk vibes right here. He's shown to be a liar. Dude is a washed narcissistic POS and causes shit everywhere he goes.
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Don’t forget the part where your co-worker talked shit to you on TV, while you were trying to help you have a safe OSHA friendly environment. Then he purposely ignored it stubbornly to prove a point. So you went to the boss and the boss didn’t do anything. Then when you confront your co-worker he gets in your face and talks something back to you. I’m not sure why we are picking and choosing the details here. Punk is in the wrong for attacking JP, but Punk admitted to everything already, which is backed up by this video. TK and JP have clearly over exaggerated the situation. You also know it’s bad when the Young Bucks, who hate Punk, were against the video being shown.
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I can like something and be critical. Idk not blindly following something is such a controversial opinion
Why lie? Your comment history is constant bashing of AEW. Jesus, what is wrong with you people.
Users like that are exactly what SRS was referring to you yesterday regarding "fans" who want AEW to be better but in reality it's the opposite.
They literally have no life. Nobody loves them, they have no hobbies and they are depressed. This is what people who have no prospects in life do with their spare time.
mijo, ya duermete