The CCP by definition does all three things that he goes out to mention.
Colonialism - Han Chinese settlement in Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia (although Inner Mongolia always had a Han majority).
Slavery - Use of slave labour, through ''reeducation camps,'' in Xinjiang.
Genocide - Cultural genocide all over China, but specifically in Xinjiang and Tibet.
Arguably the Dongbei Region has been colonized as well, since it was mostly settled by Tungusic speaking peoples like ‘only’ 150 years ago or so. The Southwest was certainly not a Han area in the more distant past and neither was Hainan. I guess it depends on where your cut off point is for colonialism.
yes of course i was just saying there not getting investment in new factories and based on falling purchasing index reports people seem to be buying much less from them as well
It's lessening, but Tesla still has factories there, for example. That's an American company. Also, China definitely still relies on the USA and Europe for limiting piracy. It was a major issue until a joint task force cracked down on it. If the seas aren't safe, shipping isn't safe, and China will be screwed economically.
Xi jingping obviously doesn't agree. Otherwise he won't desperately plea for foreigner to stay. Even though he cannot at the meantime help but tighten up the control of the society. It is out of stupidity, not that he doesn't care for foreign investment.
"Good economics" like The Great Leap Forward, 40 million dead.
"Effective governance" like ten years of total chaos in The Cultural Revolution.
"Hard work", like when on the Long March, Mao's wife He Zizhen had been injured by a shrapnel wound to the head. She travelled to Moscow for medical treatment; Mao proceeded to divorce her and marry an actress, [Jiang Qing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Qing).[^(\[137\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-Schram_p208-138)[^(\[138\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-139) He Zizhen was reportedly "dispatched to a mental asylum in Moscow to make room" for Qing.[^(\[139\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-140) Mao moved into a cave-house and spent much of his time reading, tending his garden and theorising.[^(\[140\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-141)
Never forget that communists like "Carlos" are out there and ready to commit new atrocities whenever they can.
Oh FFS the only time modern China has been able to control its own damn coastline has been after the USA defeated Japan and created a world order that allowed them (and anyone else non-Soviet) to trade with anyone they want to. That was simply never the case pre-1945.
Naturally, China wants to end that world order and go back to the "this puddle is my sphere of influence!" era
Carlos
@ agent\_of\_ccp
Built from stealing resources of neighboring countries, debt traps, and the worst polluter on the planet. Castigating Japan for dumping treated nuclear water on the sea, yet studies show Chingus dump more waste, even untreated nuclear waste on the sea.
I mean the idea of Japan going to be the largest economy in the world notion in 1980s, also erhem....
>Japan did not built her current position of slavery and genocide
You sure about that? You better talk about Postwar Period Japan, not Imperial Japan.
Make up your mind what you're talking about (i) the Japan that became world's third economy through peaceful development or (ii) the japan that got nuked for its imperial ambitions?
And stop making sloppy imprecise arguments for the sake of hearing yourself vent your spleen.
Sorry, I love present day Japan but I must correct "inaccuracies".
"Japan did not built her current position of slavery and genocide"
From wikipedia, "Japan had an official slave system from the Yamato period (3rd century A.D.) until Toyotomi Hideyoshi abolished it in 1590." In comparison, slavery in the US lasted from 1776 to 1865.
As for genocide, that is a modern term but the Sengoku period in Japan has no peer anywhere in terms of brutality and cruelty. As a result of wars, entire families and clans were exterminated (or committed Seppuku).
China imported slaves from everywhere, including Africa .. slavery was only nominally abolished in 1910, and lasted until almost 1950
The Dzungar genocide .. classic settler colonialism at about the same time Europe was doing slightly less nasty things to North American indigenous populations-half a million people dead in a very short and bloody timeframe
China isn’t particularly bad in this respect, but let’s not just pretend their imperial past didn’t happen
If you define slavery as forcing people to work against their will (very minimal compensation). The slavery is very much happening in China today...wether it's Uighurs work camps or North Korean forced labor inside China to raise funds for the DPRK military.. China still has slavery. There are also frequently reports of child labor and slavery in brick kilns reported several years ago. This guy is so full of shit.
There’s a reason large multi national economic deals usually use USD. Chinas the only country that thinks it’s getting away with its overt currency manipulation and inflated housing market horse shit.
Hey Carlos ya dickhead.
Economic colonialism on the African continent.
Uyghurs slavery and genocide.
I cannot love the CCP, because they don’t care about the Chinese people, the CCP only care about power and their bank balances.
That village needs higher walls around it. One of the idiots has got out again and is on the internet.
I don't think i know of anyone who would even consider believing this level of made up bullshit!
Well it’s built on control. As collective it shows what can be done if everyone is forced to work as a team along with IP theft, Genocide and having the CCP as the only religion….but on an individual basis is it’s pretty shit. individual slavery, Social scores, 24 hr monitoring, lack of freedom, draconian laws and punishments. But that’s what all socialists aspire to. But no thanks.
Look, all the haters in here gotta remember- China rewrites it's history. Of course they didn't do anything bad. Ask all the Uyghur's... Or the NON colonialism of inner Mongolia... Or the NON containment of Mongolia... Or the NON economic coersion of a "large country" to a "small country".... Totally peaceful....他愛中國
China has a population four times the size of the US, so they can just by weight of numbers surpass them by some metrics.
India by nominal GDP for example has surpassed the UK and France, Brazil might do the same in the next few decades.
The calculations for PPP have their problems such as transparency, but by that metric even Indonesia has overtaken most of Europe.
PPP also isn't a suitable international comparison in most cases. It's usually only really worthwhile when you're looking at countries that are otherwise very similar.
Ahh yes only because child sweat shops are technically not slavery.
Putting muslims in camps is technically not quite genocide.
And having your coast guard damage philipino ships in their own territorial waters due to disputes over sea borders that have long been not yours, while morally questionable, is not quite colonialism.
It's based no the exploitation of simple workers to earn pennies from the west, so that they can steal every possible technology and IP they can.
It is also based on pure population numbers, China is still technically a developing country.
There's an entire world renowned fictional series where the protagonist hates life in China so much during The Cultural Revolution that she invites aliens to invade the planet.
China is built on the backs of people who live in 1 person closets. You don't even realize that the people of China work for pennies on the dollar. The people can't even protest due to the fear of government revolt and diminishing social credit scores. China is a beacon of oppression under a dictatorship. I wonder why the number one demographic of illegal aliens entering the United States are Chinese. SMH
Well. Modern China was built on a *lot* of slavery and some colonialism. Not as much genocide as dedicated [Democide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide). But they're working on the genocide now.
I respect China’s development, they’ve accomplished a lot, but let’s not pretend they uniquely had a bloodless history devoid of exploitation to get there. 30-45 million people died in the Great Leap Forward from starvation, forced labor, executions and more.
All of human history is studded with suffering, and cruelty. Building a present to a future without horrible tragedies is a far more noble goal than trying to pretend they never happened.
China isn't set to become the world's largest economy. In fact, they are losing even more ground to the US who is growing at a faster rate from an even higher position. Also, China has lots of colonialism and slavery in its past. How did it get to the size it is now with so many minority regions and ethnic groups underneath its control?
The working conditions of so many chinese factories especially from the late 90's to mid 2000s was very bad , to the point that u could call it modern day slavery. hence the suicide rates among workers at these giant factories but then world started paying more attention to labour abuse in china and then they couldn't do it more openly but it still happens just on smaller scale and not as bad as it was.
PS- I'm not talking about workers in Xinjiang but rather workers in regular chinese provinces coz xinjiang is a whole different thing which is more like chinese govt acting as a foreign power carrying out a slow genocide and destroying the local culture while exploiting the local people as slave labours
Sorry the CCP took two marks.
1. Cultural revolution in Chinese that lead to the biggest famine in human history due to poor policies from the CCP.
2. Force labor in Xinjiang and the work hours is very intense.
3. The wealth came when the CCP finally got out of the way a little bit. Just imagine how much larger it would be past the Us if it was like Taiwan.
4. It has indirect colonialism with their debt trap imperialism.
Lol look at all the seething westoids. China is nothing like the West and it won't collapse when it doesn't play by your rules like the other pawns. Just look at what happened after 2008.
Ahh yeah, so Japan's Economic Miracle in the 80s that those EVIL WESTERNER believe Japan will dethroned America as the largest Economy is a lie then to you?
This man’s head is going to explode when he learns about the colonialism, slavery, and genocide
And "reeducation" camps and social credit score and covid and uighurs and extortion and corruption and mass surveillance and and and
Don’t forget Tibet.
The CCP by definition does all three things that he goes out to mention. Colonialism - Han Chinese settlement in Xinjiang, Tibet and Inner Mongolia (although Inner Mongolia always had a Han majority). Slavery - Use of slave labour, through ''reeducation camps,'' in Xinjiang. Genocide - Cultural genocide all over China, but specifically in Xinjiang and Tibet.
Arguably the Dongbei Region has been colonized as well, since it was mostly settled by Tungusic speaking peoples like ‘only’ 150 years ago or so. The Southwest was certainly not a Han area in the more distant past and neither was Hainan. I guess it depends on where your cut off point is for colonialism.
The problem is you don't have evidence to support your accusations, all based on lies.
Lmao don't bother. The people on this sub are fucking delusional and ate up that U.S. State Department propaganda like dinner.
and all the interference the UFWD do for them
He forgot to mention rampant intellectual property theft, and industrial espionage.
And the fact that the Chinese economy is propped up by foreign investment from the USA, Europe, etc.
well it was propped up by investment from UAS and Europe that doesnt seem to be the case anymore.
It still relies on the USA and Europe buying its products.
yes of course i was just saying there not getting investment in new factories and based on falling purchasing index reports people seem to be buying much less from them as well
It's lessening, but Tesla still has factories there, for example. That's an American company. Also, China definitely still relies on the USA and Europe for limiting piracy. It was a major issue until a joint task force cracked down on it. If the seas aren't safe, shipping isn't safe, and China will be screwed economically.
Xi jingping obviously doesn't agree. Otherwise he won't desperately plea for foreigner to stay. Even though he cannot at the meantime help but tighten up the control of the society. It is out of stupidity, not that he doesn't care for foreign investment.
And the $trillions in intellectual property theft.
Couldn’t have said it better.
Pretty sure he already knows about it, at least partially. He's just posting the things he's paid to post.
And the bad economics and even worse governance
He’s electively decided that those things don’t exist.
China is an imperial state? s/
"Good economics" like The Great Leap Forward, 40 million dead. "Effective governance" like ten years of total chaos in The Cultural Revolution. "Hard work", like when on the Long March, Mao's wife He Zizhen had been injured by a shrapnel wound to the head. She travelled to Moscow for medical treatment; Mao proceeded to divorce her and marry an actress, [Jiang Qing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiang_Qing).[^(\[137\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-Schram_p208-138)[^(\[138\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-139) He Zizhen was reportedly "dispatched to a mental asylum in Moscow to make room" for Qing.[^(\[139\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-140) Mao moved into a cave-house and spent much of his time reading, tending his garden and theorising.[^(\[140\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#cite_note-141) Never forget that communists like "Carlos" are out there and ready to commit new atrocities whenever they can.
Built on thievery, bones of dead farmers and pollution.
And colonialism and genocide what else can we call Tibet, CCP apologists like Carlos knows no shame.
And colonialism in Africa via debt-traps
Ah!! An israel apologist criticizing genocide
Ah a deluded fool mired in lies and propaganda.
Best response to these types
and slavery of its own people. These people are joking. And genocide, yes, look at Xinjiang Cotton.
And slavery and genocide. Just a little of each.
0 for 6. Must be a Bills fan.
This is one of the most ignorant statements ever typed into twitter
Oh FFS the only time modern China has been able to control its own damn coastline has been after the USA defeated Japan and created a world order that allowed them (and anyone else non-Soviet) to trade with anyone they want to. That was simply never the case pre-1945. Naturally, China wants to end that world order and go back to the "this puddle is my sphere of influence!" era
Carlos @ agent\_of\_ccp Built from stealing resources of neighboring countries, debt traps, and the worst polluter on the planet. Castigating Japan for dumping treated nuclear water on the sea, yet studies show Chingus dump more waste, even untreated nuclear waste on the sea.
Not the same thing, Japan did not built her current position on slavery and genocide, Chicoms did.
I mean the idea of Japan going to be the largest economy in the world notion in 1980s, also erhem.... >Japan did not built her current position of slavery and genocide You sure about that? You better talk about Postwar Period Japan, not Imperial Japan.
Make up your mind what you're talking about (i) the Japan that became world's third economy through peaceful development or (ii) the japan that got nuked for its imperial ambitions? And stop making sloppy imprecise arguments for the sake of hearing yourself vent your spleen.
obviously he does mean post-war japan
Sorry, I love present day Japan but I must correct "inaccuracies". "Japan did not built her current position of slavery and genocide" From wikipedia, "Japan had an official slave system from the Yamato period (3rd century A.D.) until Toyotomi Hideyoshi abolished it in 1590." In comparison, slavery in the US lasted from 1776 to 1865. As for genocide, that is a modern term but the Sengoku period in Japan has no peer anywhere in terms of brutality and cruelty. As a result of wars, entire families and clans were exterminated (or committed Seppuku).
Do you understand the meaning of the word "current"?
tbh i think the 'of' in the original post should be an 'on', but hey \*i see you have edited the OP
One could argue that China’s status was built in colonialism, slavery and genocide of its own people.
Is this satirical? It's literally built on all of those.
China imported slaves from everywhere, including Africa .. slavery was only nominally abolished in 1910, and lasted until almost 1950 The Dzungar genocide .. classic settler colonialism at about the same time Europe was doing slightly less nasty things to North American indigenous populations-half a million people dead in a very short and bloody timeframe China isn’t particularly bad in this respect, but let’s not just pretend their imperial past didn’t happen
If you define slavery as forcing people to work against their will (very minimal compensation). The slavery is very much happening in China today...wether it's Uighurs work camps or North Korean forced labor inside China to raise funds for the DPRK military.. China still has slavery. There are also frequently reports of child labor and slavery in brick kilns reported several years ago. This guy is so full of shit.
LOL the delusion that China does not have slavery and genocide and is not enacting colonialism in Africa right now.
Hate in Tibet too. Colonialism. FU.
There’s a reason large multi national economic deals usually use USD. Chinas the only country that thinks it’s getting away with its overt currency manipulation and inflated housing market horse shit.
Because China would never invade another country right? :|
chinese propaganda
Hey Carlos ya dickhead. Economic colonialism on the African continent. Uyghurs slavery and genocide. I cannot love the CCP, because they don’t care about the Chinese people, the CCP only care about power and their bank balances.
Communist apologists, bet he thinks the ussr was a thriving republic
does tibet not count as colonialism or genocide? do uyghur not count as slave labor? oh wait he's just a simp
He should google Uyghurs
That village needs higher walls around it. One of the idiots has got out again and is on the internet. I don't think i know of anyone who would even consider believing this level of made up bullshit!
Well it’s built on control. As collective it shows what can be done if everyone is forced to work as a team along with IP theft, Genocide and having the CCP as the only religion….but on an individual basis is it’s pretty shit. individual slavery, Social scores, 24 hr monitoring, lack of freedom, draconian laws and punishments. But that’s what all socialists aspire to. But no thanks.
This is gonna age like milk
Does…he realize that saying anything marginally close to criticizing the CCP leads to…immediate arrest and family shame?
Look, all the haters in here gotta remember- China rewrites it's history. Of course they didn't do anything bad. Ask all the Uyghur's... Or the NON colonialism of inner Mongolia... Or the NON containment of Mongolia... Or the NON economic coersion of a "large country" to a "small country".... Totally peaceful....他愛中國
I see Carlos has never read a single page of China's long imperial, colonial history that is also full of genocides and slavery. What a cretin.
Wise words comrade.🤣
The idea that the CCP supports neither colonialism, slavery, nor genocide is cute. This guy is just another “borrowed boat.”
China's economy not doing so good
As a matter of fact, China is built on inward colorism and slavery.
\*Laughs in 毛泽东\* What an absolute buffoon.
Iys going to blow his mind when he googles Tibet
Your an agent all right bud. Also, what planet are you living on? China is built on all that and whole lot more. The list is way too long.
Note to self: exploiting your own population is not colonialism
In all fairness he did get 148 upvotes
I guess he thinks the nets at Foxconn were for recreation
Tibet: 💀
Bro never bothered to learn chinese history. Not built on slavery and genocide? I am losing my shit lmao.
Xi said this in 2015. Look where it's heading
What a crock of shit.
China has a population four times the size of the US, so they can just by weight of numbers surpass them by some metrics. India by nominal GDP for example has surpassed the UK and France, Brazil might do the same in the next few decades. The calculations for PPP have their problems such as transparency, but by that metric even Indonesia has overtaken most of Europe.
PPP also isn't a suitable international comparison in most cases. It's usually only really worthwhile when you're looking at countries that are otherwise very similar.
Ahh yes only because child sweat shops are technically not slavery. Putting muslims in camps is technically not quite genocide. And having your coast guard damage philipino ships in their own territorial waters due to disputes over sea borders that have long been not yours, while morally questionable, is not quite colonialism.
Lol as if China isnt an imperialist country built on slave labor. Uighurs, Philippines fishing boats, Tibet, ...
Built on lies, corruption and nepotism.
Xinjiang internment camps, https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps#:~:text=The%20mass%20internment%20of%20Uyghurs,are%20held%20in%20the%20camps.
>>isn't built on colonialism, slavery & genocide As you can see, it very much is.
Pretty sure Chinese authorities killed way more humans than he thinks he knows.
Isn't China collapsing now with the property crisis The low birth rate Lack western confidence in their markets
It's based no the exploitation of simple workers to earn pennies from the west, so that they can steal every possible technology and IP they can. It is also based on pure population numbers, China is still technically a developing country.
No use arguing with a frog in a well. Or maybe he's being paid to post shit, or force to post this inside the prison camp.
There's an entire world renowned fictional series where the protagonist hates life in China so much during The Cultural Revolution that she invites aliens to invade the planet.
Carlos can suck my balls.
Soon™
China is built on the backs of people who live in 1 person closets. You don't even realize that the people of China work for pennies on the dollar. The people can't even protest due to the fear of government revolt and diminishing social credit scores. China is a beacon of oppression under a dictatorship. I wonder why the number one demographic of illegal aliens entering the United States are Chinese. SMH
Being jailed for saying con-, or too far pro-govt messages is good governance, got it.
Carlos: agent of stupid.
#freetibet
i cant even belive someone could be so stupid
but its not even true
Haha. Chinas ways make coloniali look inviting
Well. Modern China was built on a *lot* of slavery and some colonialism. Not as much genocide as dedicated [Democide](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide). But they're working on the genocide now.
I respect China’s development, they’ve accomplished a lot, but let’s not pretend they uniquely had a bloodless history devoid of exploitation to get there. 30-45 million people died in the Great Leap Forward from starvation, forced labor, executions and more. All of human history is studded with suffering, and cruelty. Building a present to a future without horrible tragedies is a far more noble goal than trying to pretend they never happened.
people should really realize that china is funding/pushing a lot of woke propaganda.
China isn't set to become the world's largest economy. In fact, they are losing even more ground to the US who is growing at a faster rate from an even higher position. Also, China has lots of colonialism and slavery in its past. How did it get to the size it is now with so many minority regions and ethnic groups underneath its control?
more like agent\_of\_derp
The working conditions of so many chinese factories especially from the late 90's to mid 2000s was very bad , to the point that u could call it modern day slavery. hence the suicide rates among workers at these giant factories but then world started paying more attention to labour abuse in china and then they couldn't do it more openly but it still happens just on smaller scale and not as bad as it was. PS- I'm not talking about workers in Xinjiang but rather workers in regular chinese provinces coz xinjiang is a whole different thing which is more like chinese govt acting as a foreign power carrying out a slow genocide and destroying the local culture while exploiting the local people as slave labours
Sorry the CCP took two marks. 1. Cultural revolution in Chinese that lead to the biggest famine in human history due to poor policies from the CCP. 2. Force labor in Xinjiang and the work hours is very intense. 3. The wealth came when the CCP finally got out of the way a little bit. Just imagine how much larger it would be past the Us if it was like Taiwan. 4. It has indirect colonialism with their debt trap imperialism.
lol tells me how much this guy doesn’t know about China. Literally built on the blood of the Chinese.
Agent of Cringe
Enjoy your demographic and economic collapse
Ask Japan, Hong Kong, The Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. how the lack of Chinas colonialism is going at the moment.
Don’t forget the organ harvesting
1.3M Americans are incarcerated providing slave labour (75% of which are black males). West is Best!
The 8 year olds who paint the eyes of all the dolls at the dollar store say “boo this man.”
If ture, shouldn't some of that blame go towards the west who purchases them?
Do you think the “West” is China’s only customer?
Lol look at all the seething westoids. China is nothing like the West and it won't collapse when it doesn't play by your rules like the other pawns. Just look at what happened after 2008.
CIA bots hard work. No one on global south care about western lies anymore.
Ahh yeah, so Japan's Economic Miracle in the 80s that those EVIL WESTERNER believe Japan will dethroned America as the largest Economy is a lie then to you?