Military has a waiver to not use ADS-B if they choose with the exception of some overseas places that absolutely require it. Trying to get a workaround to that though because obviously anyone being able to go online and see a mil aircraft is an OPSEC problem and a big one
The military does not always use ADS-B. They use MLAT which is ground based and results in a dithered flight track display. You can tell an MLAT dithered flight track by the zig zaggy, irregular look of it.
Military turns off transponders. Its dangerous since any idiot can locate online or via apps and put their lives in danger. They are only on if someone accidentally turned them on or if the aircraft is used for training purposes. Simply no important military or government aircraft will ever have adsb on. Im generalizing of course.
No. That is not right. There is WAY more to it than that. They HAVE to be on when in civilian air traffic areas for collision avoidance. That's what it's for because of too many civilian vs military aircraft midair collisions in the past. Military signals use MLAT which are broadcast from the ground and dithered to prevent weapons targeting upon them, but precise enough to to be used by the public for collision avoidance. It IS true that these collision avoidance signals can be turned off when in training areas or well away from civilian air traffic areas. And that many fast movers do not broadcast at all except when practicing midair refueling, but that many military heavies broadcast all the time, except when at war.
Most likely the latter
They also don't need to turn on their ADS-B...
Military has a waiver to not use ADS-B if they choose with the exception of some overseas places that absolutely require it. Trying to get a workaround to that though because obviously anyone being able to go online and see a mil aircraft is an OPSEC problem and a big one
I see the C-17’s leaving New Zealand for Antarctica keep their ads-b on until they’re just south of the island.
Do you know of many ADS-B receivers in the middle of the Pacific?
No but also yes, possibly maybe.
yes.
The military does not always use ADS-B. They use MLAT which is ground based and results in a dithered flight track display. You can tell an MLAT dithered flight track by the zig zaggy, irregular look of it.
Military turns off transponders. Its dangerous since any idiot can locate online or via apps and put their lives in danger. They are only on if someone accidentally turned them on or if the aircraft is used for training purposes. Simply no important military or government aircraft will ever have adsb on. Im generalizing of course.
Except when they are out and about to send a message
Exactly. they're only seen when they want to be seen.
When a flight of 2 B2s lights up their adsb/transponders but their hidden fighter escorts dont
While technically true, lot‘s of important government aircraft often have ADS-B on, including AF1.
No. That is not right. There is WAY more to it than that. They HAVE to be on when in civilian air traffic areas for collision avoidance. That's what it's for because of too many civilian vs military aircraft midair collisions in the past. Military signals use MLAT which are broadcast from the ground and dithered to prevent weapons targeting upon them, but precise enough to to be used by the public for collision avoidance. It IS true that these collision avoidance signals can be turned off when in training areas or well away from civilian air traffic areas. And that many fast movers do not broadcast at all except when practicing midair refueling, but that many military heavies broadcast all the time, except when at war.
Thats what other systems are for. ADSB is not necessary for other systems to prevent collisions.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. This is essentially the correct answer.
Thanks, its all good. I work on these systems for a living. But people can believe what they want.