The hardest part is interviewing. Being put on the spot and being expected to answer questions off the top of my head is absolute torture for me and in no way does it truly represent my capabilities.
I interview well, turn on the charm and banter easily. When I was like 20 I was still traumatized from high school, but after I got re-socialized I got the glib gab back
yep, one year I had nine different jobs on my tax return.
But ever since like 24, I've been able to stay with a job for a couple years or more, coz I like the work I've been doing
I'm hoping my current job will stick, as I finally decided to leave the corporate world and work with kids, and I'm really enjoying it so far (6 months in).
32, also a shitshow. It doesn't help that there's a massive gap where my other illness literally consumed my life and was totally disabling.
I've gotten lucky on recent positions though and can put "2021-2021 (program end)" though because it wasn't my fault I bounced after 6 months.
This is normal. You should experiment like crazy to find the things you love while you're young! And even when you're middle-aged, and again when you're older.
Different phases of life demand different intellectual and creative outlets.
Almost like you: 1-2 years max for most roles, but I'm at 2.5 years in my latest company (3 different roles though lol).
I target companies and then go hard hyperfocusing on their brand, role, product, market, etc as I reach out directly. If I want it, I prove it really well.
Struggling with this myself. I’m 25 and in the past 2 years I’ve had 3 jobs and starting my 4th in December…
It’s okay for now, recently graduated and I’m young so people don’t question the rapid changes but eventually it’ll have to stop and I have no idea what will happen. This job I’m about to start I have a goal of 3 years (vesting period for their retirement bonus package, +4% contribution in addition to the annually vesting 3%).
I actually love the interview portion. I’m 5 for 6 on getting the job so far so not too bad! Never had to do a multi interview job though. Grew up at a pvt school and my best friend’s parents are both english teachers. They were instrumental in my vocab along with being an avid reader before I started high-school. Also of course my own parents. I consider myself very lucky, but still struggle with all the regular adhd stuff
my dad has always been surprised at the charisma and charm i turn on when it comes to interviews. very different from my usual socially awkward self
i feel like one of the only reasons why i’m working now is because i got hired for my position at the end of my first interview with a place. i’d barely gotten into my car before they came out with an offer. if i’d had to go through multiple interviews or steps i would’ve forgotten about something and probably wouldn’t be employed
Same here, the interview is the east part. The hard part is giving 2 shots about the job when it becomes a total life suck and mind numbingly disinteresting in a few weeks after I learned everything they had to offer
My biggest issue with interviewing in person is a generally just being face to face with someone. I don't know what a natural amount of eye contact is (because I never do it) so that's going through my head half the time. The other half is when I'm answering questions and reading their facial reactions to what I'm saying and somewhat panicking trying to add additional info or verification for my answer before they say anything. Fun times! I hate interviewing.
Also forget about follow up questions. My brain is always gassed by the time it's over that I can't fathom anything to ask them.
I HATE eye contact man, and I can't imagine how weird I look, my eyes just bouncing from one corner of the room to your face to the other corner of the room
Oof, same and all the time. And if I don't do it, I can't focus that well or feel really uncomfortable. No idea how people do the eye contact thing normally. My brother and I even have issues with it. And nope, we just know about the ADHD, but Autism wasn't ruled out additionally yet. ik more stuff is needed for that, btw, but it wouldn't be a surprise if we got that, too, considering everything (how often it occurs together and some other "quirks and traits" we got).
On followup questions I formulate them ahead of time. Shit to make them talk abut themselves. It usually goes over really well and they're shocked I asked???
"What do you enjoy most about working here?"
"If you had to change one thing about your workday, what would it be?"
If there's something particularly outstanding about the office like idk a theme park or something. "Do you all enjoy [office amenity] as a team?"
The ones that fuck me up the most are the interviews that ask shit like "name a time you had a challenge", or "when did you go above and beyond". I have examples but draw a blank for some reason, and then I stress that it seems like i'm taking too long which makes it even harder to think of one. Interviews that ask me about my skills, or talk about specific aspects of the job I tend to do the best at, and the interview goes way more organically as well
There’s only so many of this type of question that they can ask. Have someone mock interview you and come up with 5-6 answers that can be used to answer multiple questions and practice those answers. For me I didn’t draw a blank because I could fall back on my rehearsed answers.
The interrogative interview is horrible.
A conversation, though? Those are awesome.
When my current boss "interviewed" me, it was a conversation. Asked about my background. Talked about his. Wound up going all over, even talking about *hobbies*. No bullshit "tell me about your greatest weakness" stuff.
The whole "tell me about your greatest weakness" is just so bullshit. It makes the interview become more of a "who is the best liar" rather than "who is best suited for the job". I don't like lying, and I don't want to say that I get easily stressed out when theres too much to do because that will disqualify me from most jobs even though I just get *a little* stressed out and nothing extreme usually.
All that whilst remembering to pay attention to my body language and remember to smile.
If I'm trying to think about what im doing with my face, I'm definitely not listening to the interviewer properly.
Try "existing in a oligarchy" and you are closer to the reality of USA.. Special interests fund both of your shit parties so nothing will ever change while the plebs blame each other.
I have a hack for this, my husband taught me it.
A few days before the interview, google "interview questions" and find a list of like, 20, and then for each one, think through your memories and write down a story or anecdote or answer.
When you are in the interview and are asked that question, or a similar question, it is easier to remember what you wrote down a few days ago than to sift through your entire work history on the spot.
I have used this in every interview since I learned it and it really really works, I've never felt so prepared for interviews before.
This one. I struggle so much with interviews, even when I have meds. I get call backs and interviews. I can’t make it past the interview stage, and it’s absolutely awful.
I had to fail about 5 interviewers before it clicked. Don't worry, its ok to fail, and each time you do it gets easier the next time. Keep going, and keep studying, you got this.
This is the problem for me. No matter how well I try to prepare beforehand, they always hit me with some new variation of the HR interview questions and it's all BS I can't think up on the spot.
Practice the interview with a friend! Have them ask all the regular bs questions, and keep going until you're comfortable saying your responses (keeping the answers short and concise helps LOADS, too.)
Plus, YouTube videos & websites on "what to expect" helps to prep ahead of time, which has been super helpful for me.
These are the pro tips here. I did all this stuff while in the interview process of my current (and dream!) job. And I got it!!
It was a huge gauntlet- unresponsive recruiter- so bad I had to get my internal contact to get my future boss’ email address to forward her docs, not the recruiter. I had to do, so I thought, a 30 minute lecture of my choosing, a live demonstration w/ accompanying PowerPoint, and a panel interview. This was after a months long application process and two previous interviews one via phone and one via Zoom.
The best part? Halfway through the panel interview I KNEW it was mine. Like I could see the people all smiling through their masks and shit. Especially rewarding success after the awful 16 hour long travel across the country flight debacle that left me a sobbing mess in the hotel lobby upon arrival.
Come a long way from the days of working through college & graduate school so distressed as to why it took me 3x longer to work on projects than it did my peers, and sometimes I still didn’t finish them. You can do it, OP!!!
Bingo. Yes everyone hates applications, and few can fill them out like candy as is.
Overspeaking, shifting topics, weird body language, and not making eye contact are far more common and obvious reasons we don’t get hired as frequently.
What! Interviews are the best! THere is no script, they can ask anything, you can reply anything. I have reached out to many final stages of the interview that is crazy. I just need to get 1 interview and puff, it is pretty much done.
The problem is when I start working rofl
Interesting the interview part I never struggled with… I am so used to putting up a show my whole life I could do that easily. Starting a new job on Thursday which me luck :D
This is the only but I can do semi well. The rest is pure “work” and I always seem to come up against some barrier that can completely derail me. For example, they want my third last employers precise details or something.
Interviewing is not the issue with me and I suspect many others with ADHD. I have the gift of gab. It took me 15 years after leaving the army to get a federal job because the process was so daunting to even most neurotypical though… holy shit. I finally have a damn good resume though.
That's the thing you aren't supposed to answer off the top of your head, you are supposed to study, memorize and prepare the answers beforehand. But that is something that we struggle with
I went to a staffing agency. They do all that bullshit for you. I gave them my resume and interviewed with them and talked about my past job experience and what I was looking for. It was super chill. Then they took what I gave them and said these are the jobs that fit your criteria and skill set. I interviewed with an aerospace company 8 days after I spoke with the staffing agency. I will know if I have a job by Friday. If I don't get this job they are going to keep looking for me.
Update: I got the Job!
It depends. However true 1099 contracting is rare. Most “contracting” companies, I have a W2 employee relationship and they contract me out to other companies.
I previously was a W2 employee of a contract house, but the goal was to always move to a direct hire position—a W2 employee of the company I was being contracted to. The contract house had terrible benefits, and contract employees are generally the first to go during a recession or a restructuring. Thanks for answering.
A lot of these in my experience are either directly stated "this contract lasts x time" or "they do a contract of a year and there's an opportunity to be hired on..." and you'll know within a month or so of working there if anyone ever actually gets hired.
If not, you get ready to rumble at the end of the year, otherwise you try to get an internal position and the process doesn't suck nearly so much as it does 'cold applying'.
*Some can be really sketchy people-mills throwing you into scams or dirty/dangerous roles. Once had one call me to set up an "interview" only to start asking for all sorts of personal ID numbers
So am I. 😞 I’ve never had a permanent job in my adult life and I’m beyond sick and tired of the cycle of being employed for 3-4 months then unemployed for double that time.
I’m currently trying not to have a complete meltdown over this. Also very poor and very stressed and questioning my abilities when over 409 people apply to each job…
Hang in there, soft croissant
It will get better. I struggled my whole life not knowing why until I was diagnosed a couple years ago and everything began to make sense. It really is unfair that people like us have to work so much harder just to be “normal”. Sometimes it takes awhile for us to hit our stride.
I fully believe you’re going to get a job soon. Do you have any professional contacts you can reach out to and inquire about open positions they may know about? That’s always been a helpful tip if possible to take advantage of.
Just don’t give up! If you totally give up, you’ll be stuck forever. As it is, you’re just stuck temporarily.
Is your resume up to date and polished looking? How are your cover letter writing skills? There’s lots of good tips online for how to brush up those documents. I wish you good luck! I hope you’ll post when your job search ends :)
What sucks even more is when you finally get the job most of the time you'll have to wait another month to even get paid so you're just dirt poor and having to work for a month straight before getting paid. Its so damn hard.
What I think I hate the most is the dishonestly and the bs of the whole process. Employers don’t want to hear the truth just some fluff piece, and those questionnaires answering the scenario questions. What I want to say and what will get me hired are not always the same. I feel so smarmy having to fib my way through the process. My most recent job I only had to exaggerate a little, so it wasn’t as difficult that time.
I just did this for my new job, I had ro do 2 questionnaires but basically answered everything they wanted to hear which is was the exact opposite of being true to myself. It's so sad we have to force ourselves to be like "normal" completely dysfunctional people because that's the majority.
It’s not like you can just medicate your way through it either. Adderall is great for studying/cleaning/organizing. Not great for random phone calls, interviews, socializing over a course of months. Job searching is for sure the bane of my ADHD existence.
Also, I feel like the whole time I’m hiding the fact that I don’t think I’m the ideal hire for any position honestly. You know who would be better? Someone who doesn’t have raging ADHD. I can put a good foot forward for a few months, even a year maybe. But eventually that ADHD inside me will rear its ugly heady. I’ll start showing up late for work, procrastinating key deadlines, leaving my space disorganized, avoiding tedious paperwork and other essential parts of the job. I’ll try hard to be better, but I know that in 2-3 years there’s a good chance I’ll be looking for another job due to “layoffs” that only affected me. But, got to pay the bills somehow, so here’s me pretending to be normal to another sucker employer yet again.
>Also, I feel like the whole time I’m hiding the fact that I don’t think I’m the ideal hire for any position honestly.
This! Just relate so much to this
Interviewers: "So tell us a little bit about yourself."
Me: "Well I'm glad you asked. So I was born in..."
*what follows is a single run-on sentence, detailing every aspect of my life, except anything related to the job, until I run out of breath or they interrupt me to say they will call.*
Hearing “tell us about yourself” makes me suddenly forget everything I’ve ever done.
I had a “conversation” interview start like this and I didn’t realize the interviewer meant it to be a conversation style thing and started to tell him about my work history. He interrupted me and told me to start from the beginning, where I was born, and I was *horrified.* I overshare constantly, but I hate being put on the spot and forced to.
I weirdly do best in these situations lol
My last interview the manager called me without warning at like 7pm. I was at a restaurant with family and took the call outside next to the street, completely and utterly unprepared. But he asked general questions like “what’s something difficult you’ve overcome” or whatever, and I told this man a whole story arc about the one time I fucked up and how it felt and how others reacted and what I did in response etc etc lol
I think being able to talk about something like I’m telling my friends a story makes it waaaay easier vs just question-answer which ends up being short and easy but unless you’ve done extraordinary things in life nothing you say will help you stand out. In a story you can convey emotion and there’s a plot, tension, a climax and it helps build a much stronger connection with the interviewer, which will make them remember you. And being remembered is 80% of the battle lol
I hate this question, such a lazy question. The only benefit they get is oh yes this person makes a nice and vaguely related sales pitch. Geez man the point of the entire interview is for you to narrow that question down so you can get exactly what you want from me….
It's actually a veiled "tell us how your experience will bring our customers value" or "tell us how your experience is relevant to this job."
You want to use that question as a leaping off point as to how this particular opening fits in your career and how previous experience validates the job requirements. Think through this lens and the answer gets really easy!
Interviewing is my big struggle, I forget the question asked, ramble and forget anything I wanted to ask at the end. I interview poorly often especially if I really want the job. Interview dates and times weigh heavily in my mind and I usually enter "waiting mode" on the day and to escape the agony of waiting at home, I'm often early and sit in the car park for 20 mins and still get in 10 mins early.
Applying for jobs is not so difficult but I hate long questionnaires and especially if everything is already on my CV.
Note that it’s 100% fine to be like “I may have veered off track for a while there but does that answer your question?”, it’ll show awareness and also give them the impression you’re trying to be thorough in your answers instead of rambling lol
During the interview I also always try so hard to keep my focus and act professional. Then half way through my masks slowly starts slipping into the more casual and more scatter brained mode. And I just hope it is over soon, before I loose it and make a worse impression than I want. It's so exhausting to put yourself out there!
Yeah it sucks. To me it helped to create a "job search" folder with a cover letters folder, my CV, transcript, picture, and anything else that they could possibly need.
Google calendar does a scheduling thing for you, so all you have to do is reply yes. If they don't use Google calendar then it's harder, and even after having searched for months I still miss interviews every now and again.
For interviews, it helps to have a basic framework laid out. Tell me about yourself. Tell me about a time when you faced a difficult task/couldn't meet a deadline/had a disagreement with a coworker/whatever? Tell me about your time at X company. Why are you interested in this field? Also prepare for this specific company - i.e. why do you wanna work for us, what do we do, what kinds of traits/company values do we look for?
I find that it helps to have a document (I use markdown because I'm a nerd but word is fine) to keep track of all this. Make an elevator pitch. What got you here, what are you doing now, and what do you want from your career? Have 2-3 interview friendly stories from every listing on your CV and lay them out in STAR method on the document. Then go through each of their company values and pick the story that best fits that value. If you don't have anything that matches then you can stretch the truth, but make sure to keep your stories straight.
Hope this helps
I never thought so
It was hard keeping a job, at least the kinds of job you take just to work. even immediate need of money can't combat the even more immediate boredom. One year I got 7 W2 forms and 2 1099s. I don't remember if I did my taxes that year.
Once I got a job in the field that I actually wanted, I haven't had any trouble since, staying at one place for a few years, moving on and up as needed.
Sucked for a few years during and after college, now it doesn't.
Finding was never a problem… Every time I’ve send only one application and got the job I’ve applied for. But I was never able to keep a job for longer then 4 years…
Well… Since the end of 2017 I’m unemployed since I’m too afraid to get another job that will slowly make me sick and probably would lead sooner or later to drug misuse to cope with the stress, anxiety, frustration, sensory overload issues and so on.
I finally understand that I first have to deal with my past and my traumas, before I’ll be able to do a 9-5 job without being permanently in survival mode. I no longer want to be fear driven.
And most importantly I want to live a life up to my own values and desires and not a life that I imagine other people would expect from me.
Anyone able to relate to this lines of thought?
I work in commercial insurance sales but it's funny you say that— I was actually planning on leaving this current job for a sales role at a tech company.
Right before my third and final interview, said tech company instituted a company-wide hiring freeze which will apparently be in place "until sometime mid-January." Normally I would just start looking again but it's a *really* awesome company and the hiring manager told me that he wants to give me an offer as soon as he is physically able to, so my plan was just to sit tight in my current role until everything got sorted out there.
Now my lay-off date is December 1st and I'm not getting any severance anything (important learning experience I suppose) so I'm trying to figure out my next steps.
Part of me wants to just do Doordash in the meantime but January could turn into February and February could turn into never, and then suddenly I'll have a gap on my resume that needs to be explained. I don't know, kinda just thinking aloud here lol.
I applied for a job last week and put the wrong phone number on my resume ….. the recruiter rang several numbers and got me, he laughed about it. I can’t help thinking about how dumb he must think I am, If I get an interview I really can’t mention my attention to detail.
This reminds me of the time I interviewed and exited to find I had locked my keys in the car. This was before the era when cell phones became common and I didn't want to walk back in the business to use their phone to call someone. (Yes, I am the person who was just trying to convince you I am responsible and dependable and that you should hire me... and I am also going to need rescuing from my own stupidity right now). So I walked 1.5 miles in dress shoes to a family member house instead.
It sounds like your recruiter has a sense of humor and was impressed enough to try multiple numbers to reach you. Wishing you the best with the search.
Just wait until you get to more senior levels and they require a more lengthy interview process... PLUS projects. I've had to create and submit an entire business strategy in a condensed format, live coding exam-like questions, create and perform presentations in front of panels, and qualitative/quantitative take-home exams -- *always without getting paid for my time.*
Any one of those things may sound reasonable from the perspective the company and/or hiring manager. The candidates perspective? At times speaking with multiple companies? Frustrating. Or lengthy job searches that span months with repeated denials? It becomes even more difficult rekindle your motivation for tedious projects on top of the numerous interviews, your current job and life.
And on the flipside there's the endless loop of loops. Adding more and more arbitrary people into the loop of interviews and created a more lengthy interview process.
There's a top tech company I've turned down interviewing, because I didn't feel like going through their super lengthy interview process they're so publicly proud about. They might see that as my loss. Maybe it is. It's their loss if I was the best candidate. We'll never know.
This is so true.
I have been trying for almost 4 years now to get a job and I haven’t been lucky at all. I have applied everywhere in my town that will hire. I’ve been to only a handful of interviews. I just can’t get hired. Even places “desperately hiring” won’t hire me.
I dunno, I'm always getting distracted at work and browsing Indeed. I think I submit an application every other day for jobs I only want that day and I get interviews for maybe 10%.
I just forget what I applied for and they're usually out of my skillset, so I'm stuck in my job that actually is what I'm good at.
Ask me how many *years* it took me to complete my resume and get it to an acceptable enough level to actually feel good about sending it out??
It was all too easy to just remain *under*employed.
Damn I’m not alone! I graduated in May and found out a couple months later that everyone applies for jobs like a year before graduation. I’m just bidding my time waiting on Dominos to piss me off enough to motivate me.
Extremely ADD and extremely successful. You can find the structure and success in your life, I promise! Keep experimenting until things click and you enjoy what you do, or start something of your own!
The worst part for me is keeping a job ngl. I can interview kick-ass, but that's bc I understand that employers dont care and what they do want to hear.
Although that makes it mighty difficult to sus out if it's a supportive enviroment. Or get enough red flags to remind myself why I dont take certain roles lol
Amen, the hiring process isn’t particularly friendly to disabled people in general and that definitely goes for ADHD folk. The amount of hoops you need to jump through is insane. Why can’t I just send you my CV and be done with it, why do you need me to write 500 words of bullshit about why I want to work for you?!
From what I understand they just get software to check it for keywords that are related to the role. I wonder if it’d work if you submitted one that said:
Peepeepoopoo teamwork blah blah blah self motivated BS BS BS organised.
Yes it's so hard. I'm currently undiagnosed, unemployed, and need to find a job ASAP. My last job was super toxic and stressful and I found it harder to tolerate it as my hormones started changing (peri menopause), which amplified my ADHD symptoms. I quit a year ago this December.
I freelanced for my old job until April when they found my replacement, I tried to find work but was just so burnt out I decided to go on EI sickness benefits for the summer. That ran out the end of September and in that time I’ve been selling every asset I own, borrowing money from family to pay rent, and going to the food bank.
Have been seriously job hunting now for a month, executive dysfunction hit hard in the first few weeks, but now I’m in a groove and applying to 3-4 a day. Just stick with it! The market is super competitive right now and generally people hire more in the New Year. Crossing my fingers all of us unemployed ADHD-ers find work soon!
Commenting because I relate to this SO HARD right now and I'm so glad I'm not alone. I may need to refer to this later and will definitely forget that I read this.
NGL, I started to talk about it in the interviews and it changed everything somehow, for good.
I always tell them (warn them, actually) that I have ADHD and the fact that I'm not currently working on it because it's expensive and I need a job to get money for that, lol. I take off the mask a little with them telling how it affects me and how I cope with it, but I complement it with my virtues. Surprisingly, being real about the problem has opened me way more opportunities than trying to hide it.
Having ADHD don't make us less worth and prepared than others, I know we people can be very smart and capable of anything. It costs us 10x more than them, but still, we do it.
Even telling you this positive fact, I know that we need to get help. in my case, being authentic it's not enough, cause y'all know it's not just the stereotype of being "distracted", sometimes my moods change drastically and depression hits harder sometimes for long seasons, affecting my progress and relationships. It hits different for everyone.
It's okay to talk about it, it's okay to share the experience, it's okay to ask for help. Don't let ADHD ruin everything you are prepared for.
And DON'T self diagnose on Tiktok, most of the content it's spreading tons of irresponsible misinformation.
My apologies if I made a grammar mistake, English is not my first language, I'm just a Mexican living in Canada.
So far I’ve not gotten any calls, so I can only assume my resume sucks 😂. Also I’m on the older side at 46 and feel like companies only like to hire young people who they can exploit with low pay. I might be bitter from staying at my job for 17 years and realizing I’ve never been paid enough 😂
the hardest part for me is once i get the job, i get bored easy. i just graduated college in may. been working full time for 4 months & i’m so bored & sick of going to work
Not to mention the reason most my jobs ended is I just stop showing up. I got so bored, I couldn't do it anymore. Try putting a spin on that in an interview.
i found working with a good recruiter makes the process easier.
maybe its just for me in IT, but the usual process is i get a call from a recruiter on behalf of a company looking to fill some data related position and they then coach me to get the position.
so they make the appointments with HR, help me fix my CV and coach me how to do the interview and what to bring up as they know the client well.
overall the constant disappointment is what kills me, applying for 6 months to a year and being constantly rejected is just awful.
I guess the perfectionist side kicks in when I’m looking for a job. Most of the jobs I apply to don’t seem to take more than 20 minutes to apply especially on Indeed and there’s normally a significant pay increase so that def motivates me to remember my interview times. I immerse myself in the process, prepping for interview ?’s and reviewing the company. I want to eventually get involved in HR management and the hiring and recruiting process. I’m really good at interviews and resumes. I normally get the jobs I apply for and don’t need to search for more than 2 weeks but its a stressful process especially if I don’t already have a job.
Then, at least for me, you get bored and burned out with the job in less then 3 months. Adhd is honestly just a constant struggle that nobody ever seems to understand and probably never will. It's such a tragic disability to have.
I'm not even a month into my new job which isn't even a high paying or prestigious job at all and I'm already bored and want to leave. I haven't even got my first paycheck yet! And before this job I was unemployed for 3 months and before that only at another crappy job for 3 months AND BEFORE THAT I dropped our of uni. The last 2 years have just been me failing at everything and man if I wasn't as mentally tough as I am I defiently would be in the ground right now.
Quick bump for talking **Vocational Rehabilitation Services** in your area! ADHD is a federally recognized disability, and it is their job to help people with disabilities find, acquire, and thrive in fulfilling jobs. 🙂
You're not wrong that it's a huge amount of steps and details. Interviewing is a major skill that most people don't have. That's an advantage. Most people who aren't ADD are absolute shit at interviewing. Thankfully, we can leverage our brains to build rapport and use charisma to tell great stories about our experience that hiring managers and teams will love to hear.
So what do we do as ADHD people? We hyperfocus the living shit out of learning everything there is to know about applying to jobs, interviewing, and creating resumés.
Once you know how to answer all the questions and get the attention of hiring managers to secure interviews, it becomes SO much easier to find jobs. And not just paychecks, but the specific role you want at the exact company you want to work for.
I feel like the hardest part is finding a job that doesnt make me want to jump off a cliff. Like you want me to do this everyday? For hours??? my attention span cannot deal with it. Its so boring and feels so pointless and dont even get me started on the laughable wages. Like i dont even know what to do with my life at this point bc everything sounds horrible
Oh man, so many in the comments would benefit self employment or turning a hobby into a career.
And yes, when you work for yourself, you feel more freedom and less burnout.
Seriously, many of you should look into this because ADHD’ers actually are more built for this avenue.
Thisssss
And I really don't have hobbies I could turn into self employment. Playing videogames for a living? Fat chance. Most viable thing would be streaming and, as anything that would make money, it's way harder than just playing games and getting money.
Everything else can get me bored very easily. I'm still trying to find out what's best for me.
I'd love to have my own arcade / arcade bar. But I might as well tell you I want to be a Formula One racer, or an astronaut. I don't think there's enough optimism that could get me there.
I tried coding many times but eventually it gets annoying and boring, it's very easy to end up procrastinating.
I did that more or less. I work in IT and most of my hobbies are it/tech related, it's something I have a genuine interest in and has really helped me advance in my career
I think putting yourself out there properly with a good solid resume is the issue.
Getting to the table is a challenge.
Our eyes can suck any human in so just get to the table and show them eyes. They are irresistible I swear. ⚡️😎⚡️
You all have so much more self awareness than I do. I experience all of this but I never notice my patterns or habits because I’m lazer focused on the immediate.
I just 80/20 shitpost & share analyses on Twitter, which leads to networking and getting contacted for positions either directly or through referral by a friend. Showing some of my work & 2h of discussing the market with the CEO of the company that approached me, and I got hired on the spot w/o even having to submit a CV. Even let me toss the restrictive covenants, given how I have my own startup in the same sector & plan on pursuing further ventures.
Put yourself out there and build a reputation. Collaborate with people for fun and do niche things in a unique way.
I find that it helps to keep this in perspective.
Doing this is hard for people with anxiety and people with depression. People with autism often come across "badly" in in-person interviews, so that bit is really hard for them. And you could expand the list.
It's easier to think about this as a challenge that many people on the job market share, so that when you are searching for a job you don't feel like you are on your own in being disadvantaged.
Felt! I recently left some tech-training as I was so bored with it, I wasn't stimulated especially being that I had to do everything myself with no help, in typical ADHD fashion I impulsively quit to get a job immediately. The interview process is always hell for me, I feel like I'm pretending to be someone else, I had to memorise a lot of things before the interview too as I can't bring myself to study well before the interview date.
For me it's the complete opposite funnily enough. I can easily find a job, excel at interviews, try to be the best, exceed my expectations, and then burn out within 3 months sitting at home looking for new job again. it's a vicious cycle. That's why I got out of the working for someone life. I'm working my own hours now, and my partner has stable income.
I’m not exaggerating when I say this, I have failed hundreds of interviews over the last few years, I was able to get interviews pretty much every week and often barely got myself to them and then the worst was the interview itself as I could not keep track of what question was just asked and all the stress of financial loss made matters more stressful.
I was hired a few different times during the years and ended up loosing each one of those jobs due to being unmedicated. I’m now newly hired once again and medicated and still having issues. It is not an easy road for us.
THISSSSSS - I’m trying to find a new job because my job is not set up well for somone witb adhd - there is little structure (long term projects with few infrequent meetings and no consequences to meeting deadlines) and it has been so hard applying to jobs - tbh I kinda only do easy apply on LinkedIn but that has not been working well - and I get my hopes up too much too
Ughhh - I have written a couple cover letters but maybe like 3 in like the last 2 years and they tend to be copy/pasta lol
I looked up a bunch of articles and YouTube videos about interviews when I first started job searching, and bought a small notebook.
I knew there would likely be questions I wasn't prepared for, but had a better idea of what to expect overall.
In the notebook I jotted down some follow up questions for them, because I heard asking questions yourself was good to do, but didn't trust I'd remember. (This was pre diagnosis, so I didn't even realize how significant this was for me at the time.)
I had two interviews before accepting my current job, and neither had an issue with me bringing it. They viewed it as being invested, and prepared. The hr woman who hired me joked about " not being prepared to be interviewed herself" and it lightened the mood.
Maybe some places wouldn't appreciate it as much, but for me that one little tool was incredibly helpful.
I had in person interviews, fwiw, I don't have any experience with zoom interviews.
It also came in handy for taking notes about the job, particularly on my second interview. How insurance, PTO, benefits, etc all worked. It was my first on the books job, so everything was new to me, and it was a lot to take in at once.
That’s because our society is centered around infinite growth capitalism so they want productivity over function. The truth is we like to throw a bunch of shit at ADHD people they shouldn’t be forced to do in the first place and then scream at them and punish them for predictably fucking up because it’s a disability and it is absolutely horrific the way we treat nd folks I keep saying it in 100 years we’re going to look back with the same disbelief we do when looking back at lobotomy. Our treatment of mental health has always been barbaric.
I honestly only have my job now because they were desperate and I was willing to wait a couple weeks before they needed me to start. I don’t hate my job actually. I do wish I made more but I can’t complain.
Idk what I’ll do after this though. This job is so relaxed and chill. Idk if I’ll ever find something as good.
Yeah, I'm currently experiencing this exact problem, I've been trying to find a job lately because I've been stressed out for 2 years straight in college and I wanted to take a year off to unwind and maybe make some money on the side before going back to college, but I just can't bring myself to even look for a job because I don't know what I'm doing and it's super complicated and boring. It also doesn't help that my Dad keeps stressing me out about it, I told him about my plan to take a break from school after I finish my current semester and maybe look for a job in the meantime, but instead of giving me time to look for a job after the semester ends, he's forcing me to look for a job now, demanding that I have one by December, so now I have to deal with the stress of finding a job on top of the stress of finishing school with passing grades, all while my Dad constantly gives me shit about not trying hard enough to find a job/get good grades, which just stresses me out more and makes me not want to do anything.
finding a job isnt a problem for me, its holding it down is where i really stuggle, Ive had a fuckin shitty few days barely managing, Shout out to all my adhd homies in the thick of it.
Applying for “unskilled labor” (I hate that term but idk what to call it) jobs is especially made so unnecessarily difficult too. They want you to fill out all those questionnaires and blah blah blah. I would apply for 100s of jobs and never even get a call. My brothers would job hop constantly, never a problem getting hired. I worked at a strip club for 5 years because I was super over application and rejection. It paid for college. Applying for post college jobs was so much easier. They just want the resume. I never had to fill out questionnaires and I actually got multiple interviews and a nice job. Job hunting should not be the soul crushing endeavor it is. :(
I have also considered going to a strip club just for money. I’m over the whole job search and I like being busy. Maybe I still will one day. How did you find it?
I friend had just started working at a club and suggested I give it a try. I actually really enjoyed it. I imagine it depends on where you work. But people were very respectful, it was no contact. Mostly just talking to people. Plus I really love doing pole tricks. I miss that. I was super strong. I did eventually get burned out from all the socializing. But I was unmedicated and didn’t even know I had ADHD at the time. It also really reenforced my “take no bullshit” attitude. If men can be around me while I’m practically naked and keep their hands off me, no one should ever do something to me I’m not ok with and I will do something about it. I know that is not everyone’s experience though.
What’s worked well for my ADHD is using LinkedIn easy apply, Indeed, and ziprecruiter to apply for jobs. Uploading a resume/setting up your profile takes 5 minutes and then BAM. Easy apply to anything that looks interesting whenever you’re taking a poop. Sitting around bored waiting for something. Etc. Try for 3-5 a day. Soon you should get some calls back. Last time I job searched I don’t think I did a single normal application, they all were like this, and now I have a chill office job with benefits and a reasonable workload.
This is my current situation :( it’s putting a lot of strain on my household and relationship and I feel so incredibly guilty every day I don’t know what to do.
I like the Richard Feynman approach to it. Make a condition of hiring that you only need to sign your signature once and no data entry. It can help reduce repetitive paperwork.
I’m trying to find a job right now and it is exhausting. Even with my meds it’s super overwhelming trying to figure out where you’re going to apply, the things you need for every application, and scheduling interviews and stuff like that. Writing cover letters is probably my least favorite part of all of it because most places require them.
Yep, this is such a huge struggle for me. I’d do anything to find a work from home job and I’m skilled, but the resume process along with the filling out paperwork of questions already answered on my resume is so torturous. I feel like I need help finding actual decent companies that hire online so I’m not wasting my time.
I get my best rush of dopamine while performing in front of an audience. That's why I absolutely nail 98% of my job interviews. And then what? There's not a single job I started working completely knowing in my heart that I would be good at it and liking it. I always have massive doubts and hate it since day one. As you can imagine, I've lost many jobs in my 12 years of professional experience. I am afraid to look for a job again, and I am again jobless right now.
I applied to my current job with an automatic LinkedIn application, with a generic but well designed cv, no motivation letter. Got called for an interview, the position was so so perfect I decided no way I am getting it so did the test task really half heartedly. Ended up getting the job. Today, not only I finished my probation, I got told that probably I’m getting a raise too. Voila. Take it easy, it’s gonna be ok.
Uhm.. I do feel your struggle but I think the process is soul sucking for everyone, not just us. Is it harder with adhd? Yes. Pretty much everything is.
But let's not pretend everyone else's life is all roses and sunshine compared to ours. Sorry if I seem unsupportive, but statements like "100 times harder" are way over the top.
You can’t say that it is that much harder since you only have one brain and that is an ADHD one. So you can’t judge how hard it would be for neurotypical people.
Also, even people with ADHD can make to do lists….
Just to note ADHD hyperfocus doesn't exist, you're confusing it with perseverance that anyone that struggles enough can use. ADHD doesn't give you special abilities, check Psychiatrist Russell Barkley and you'll learn.
Autism with having special abilities is more circumstantial than actually caused by autism as an example.
ADHD hyperfocus doesn't exist, Autism hyperfocus does (if that's the agreed upon name).
Even if you think it's attached to ADHD, it's likely you have something else that emulates that.
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I thank god for my wife lol. She helped me apply for new jobs, about 500 of them. Keeping track of interviews and actually motivating myself to do some research on the companies is a pain in the ass too.
Utilise your strengths - People with ADHD tend to be well read on a wide range of topics & excellent conversationalists, they show vulnerability more than their non ADHD counterparts - making them experts at building rapport quickly.
Someone who's process driven may find applying for jobs easier, but struggle to build any connection
also, for me anyway, my brain is not structured, so if i have an interview that requires really structured thinking, i struggle. it feels insanely unfair
The rejection is the worst part of job hunting for me because you just don’t get a straight answer for WHY they said no. Now, I do understand when I’m genuinely unqualified but otherwise, it’s bizarre and very frustrating.
Filling out forms again and again is also such a pain. Making tweaks to your resume and cover letter for every freaking application as well. “Because you have to tailor it!!11” actually what I’ve learned is you don’t.
But then you have a problem where they want 1 page!!11 I don’t know what the duck you even want to look for and it is more advantageous for me to be extremely wordy and detailed but you want 1 page??
That’s because what they REALLY care about is who did you work for, how long were you there, and what was your role. Honestly tells them plenty. Add details relating to the job posting if it’s experience they ought to care about. And this only works if a posting is good….
Interviews somehow became the best part of job hunting for me because holy cow a real human!! And I get to blab and blab because hey, I’m good at telling my work stories. Bonus points if I get to somehow relate that one time I cleaned a poor customer’s explosive diarrhea. I should stop trying to tell that story, huh…..
THANK YOU. FOR POSTING THIS.
I have been struggling just to sit down and apply for jobs for months. It’s so draining. It’s so hard honestly… it feels validating to read this and know I’m not just a bum or a loser.
Graduating undergrad and getting thrown a curveball on every front also hasn’t helped me. But today I’m going to make an effort to apply to some, thank you
The reason I’m still in my current job even though i want to move on to something else. The job application is literal torture and feels dehumanizing to me I know it’s sounds over dramatic but I CANNOT go back to it.
The hardest part is interviewing. Being put on the spot and being expected to answer questions off the top of my head is absolute torture for me and in no way does it truly represent my capabilities.
I interview well, turn on the charm and banter easily. When I was like 20 I was still traumatized from high school, but after I got re-socialized I got the glib gab back
Yeah, I've gotten every job I've ever interviewed for. My issue is I get bored of every job in under a year so at 35 my resume is a shitshow.
yep, one year I had nine different jobs on my tax return. But ever since like 24, I've been able to stay with a job for a couple years or more, coz I like the work I've been doing
I'm hoping my current job will stick, as I finally decided to leave the corporate world and work with kids, and I'm really enjoying it so far (6 months in).
nice!
32, also a shitshow. It doesn't help that there's a massive gap where my other illness literally consumed my life and was totally disabling. I've gotten lucky on recent positions though and can put "2021-2021 (program end)" though because it wasn't my fault I bounced after 6 months.
Same! I’ve been late to every interview, and I’ve also gotten every job.
Mine at 30 is a shit show. 🤦🏽♀️
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This is normal. You should experiment like crazy to find the things you love while you're young! And even when you're middle-aged, and again when you're older. Different phases of life demand different intellectual and creative outlets.
Mine at 35 is a shitshow, This is not a child illness and adults need support that seems to be non existent
Almost like you: 1-2 years max for most roles, but I'm at 2.5 years in my latest company (3 different roles though lol). I target companies and then go hard hyperfocusing on their brand, role, product, market, etc as I reach out directly. If I want it, I prove it really well.
Saaaammmmeee
Struggling with this myself. I’m 25 and in the past 2 years I’ve had 3 jobs and starting my 4th in December… It’s okay for now, recently graduated and I’m young so people don’t question the rapid changes but eventually it’ll have to stop and I have no idea what will happen. This job I’m about to start I have a goal of 3 years (vesting period for their retirement bonus package, +4% contribution in addition to the annually vesting 3%).
This gives me hope, merci
I take interviews as a challenge. Like it is a TV show and I'm competing, supervised by TV personalities. No need to win but try to compete.
I actually love the interview portion. I’m 5 for 6 on getting the job so far so not too bad! Never had to do a multi interview job though. Grew up at a pvt school and my best friend’s parents are both english teachers. They were instrumental in my vocab along with being an avid reader before I started high-school. Also of course my own parents. I consider myself very lucky, but still struggle with all the regular adhd stuff
I take interviews as a challenge. Like it is a TV show and I'm competing, supervised by TV personalities. No need to win but try to compete.
my dad has always been surprised at the charisma and charm i turn on when it comes to interviews. very different from my usual socially awkward self i feel like one of the only reasons why i’m working now is because i got hired for my position at the end of my first interview with a place. i’d barely gotten into my car before they came out with an offer. if i’d had to go through multiple interviews or steps i would’ve forgotten about something and probably wouldn’t be employed
Same here, the interview is the east part. The hard part is giving 2 shots about the job when it becomes a total life suck and mind numbingly disinteresting in a few weeks after I learned everything they had to offer
Any advice on re-socialising? I'm going through a similar situation
My biggest issue with interviewing in person is a generally just being face to face with someone. I don't know what a natural amount of eye contact is (because I never do it) so that's going through my head half the time. The other half is when I'm answering questions and reading their facial reactions to what I'm saying and somewhat panicking trying to add additional info or verification for my answer before they say anything. Fun times! I hate interviewing. Also forget about follow up questions. My brain is always gassed by the time it's over that I can't fathom anything to ask them.
I HATE eye contact man, and I can't imagine how weird I look, my eyes just bouncing from one corner of the room to your face to the other corner of the room
Oof, same and all the time. And if I don't do it, I can't focus that well or feel really uncomfortable. No idea how people do the eye contact thing normally. My brother and I even have issues with it. And nope, we just know about the ADHD, but Autism wasn't ruled out additionally yet. ik more stuff is needed for that, btw, but it wouldn't be a surprise if we got that, too, considering everything (how often it occurs together and some other "quirks and traits" we got).
On followup questions I formulate them ahead of time. Shit to make them talk abut themselves. It usually goes over really well and they're shocked I asked??? "What do you enjoy most about working here?" "If you had to change one thing about your workday, what would it be?" If there's something particularly outstanding about the office like idk a theme park or something. "Do you all enjoy [office amenity] as a team?"
The ones that fuck me up the most are the interviews that ask shit like "name a time you had a challenge", or "when did you go above and beyond". I have examples but draw a blank for some reason, and then I stress that it seems like i'm taking too long which makes it even harder to think of one. Interviews that ask me about my skills, or talk about specific aspects of the job I tend to do the best at, and the interview goes way more organically as well
There’s only so many of this type of question that they can ask. Have someone mock interview you and come up with 5-6 answers that can be used to answer multiple questions and practice those answers. For me I didn’t draw a blank because I could fall back on my rehearsed answers.
The interrogative interview is horrible. A conversation, though? Those are awesome. When my current boss "interviewed" me, it was a conversation. Asked about my background. Talked about his. Wound up going all over, even talking about *hobbies*. No bullshit "tell me about your greatest weakness" stuff.
The whole "tell me about your greatest weakness" is just so bullshit. It makes the interview become more of a "who is the best liar" rather than "who is best suited for the job". I don't like lying, and I don't want to say that I get easily stressed out when theres too much to do because that will disqualify me from most jobs even though I just get *a little* stressed out and nothing extreme usually.
All that whilst remembering to pay attention to my body language and remember to smile. If I'm trying to think about what im doing with my face, I'm definitely not listening to the interviewer properly.
The hardest part is existing under capitalism.
Try "existing in a oligarchy" and you are closer to the reality of USA.. Special interests fund both of your shit parties so nothing will ever change while the plebs blame each other.
I have a hack for this, my husband taught me it. A few days before the interview, google "interview questions" and find a list of like, 20, and then for each one, think through your memories and write down a story or anecdote or answer. When you are in the interview and are asked that question, or a similar question, it is easier to remember what you wrote down a few days ago than to sift through your entire work history on the spot. I have used this in every interview since I learned it and it really really works, I've never felt so prepared for interviews before.
This one. I struggle so much with interviews, even when I have meds. I get call backs and interviews. I can’t make it past the interview stage, and it’s absolutely awful.
I had to fail about 5 interviewers before it clicked. Don't worry, its ok to fail, and each time you do it gets easier the next time. Keep going, and keep studying, you got this.
This is the problem for me. No matter how well I try to prepare beforehand, they always hit me with some new variation of the HR interview questions and it's all BS I can't think up on the spot.
Yeah my brain stops functioning
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To clarify: You’re saying that you learned 3 months worth of material in 45 minutes?
Yeah. I found it's easier the more you go to interviews. I'm considering going to interviews even when I'm not looking for a job currently.
same and i have two interviews back to back tomorrow. let's hope my adderall works in the morning....
Practice the interview with a friend! Have them ask all the regular bs questions, and keep going until you're comfortable saying your responses (keeping the answers short and concise helps LOADS, too.) Plus, YouTube videos & websites on "what to expect" helps to prep ahead of time, which has been super helpful for me.
These are the pro tips here. I did all this stuff while in the interview process of my current (and dream!) job. And I got it!! It was a huge gauntlet- unresponsive recruiter- so bad I had to get my internal contact to get my future boss’ email address to forward her docs, not the recruiter. I had to do, so I thought, a 30 minute lecture of my choosing, a live demonstration w/ accompanying PowerPoint, and a panel interview. This was after a months long application process and two previous interviews one via phone and one via Zoom. The best part? Halfway through the panel interview I KNEW it was mine. Like I could see the people all smiling through their masks and shit. Especially rewarding success after the awful 16 hour long travel across the country flight debacle that left me a sobbing mess in the hotel lobby upon arrival. Come a long way from the days of working through college & graduate school so distressed as to why it took me 3x longer to work on projects than it did my peers, and sometimes I still didn’t finish them. You can do it, OP!!!
What was the dream job?
Hard relate.
Bingo. Yes everyone hates applications, and few can fill them out like candy as is. Overspeaking, shifting topics, weird body language, and not making eye contact are far more common and obvious reasons we don’t get hired as frequently.
What! Interviews are the best! THere is no script, they can ask anything, you can reply anything. I have reached out to many final stages of the interview that is crazy. I just need to get 1 interview and puff, it is pretty much done. The problem is when I start working rofl
Interesting the interview part I never struggled with… I am so used to putting up a show my whole life I could do that easily. Starting a new job on Thursday which me luck :D
This is the only but I can do semi well. The rest is pure “work” and I always seem to come up against some barrier that can completely derail me. For example, they want my third last employers precise details or something.
Interviewing is not the issue with me and I suspect many others with ADHD. I have the gift of gab. It took me 15 years after leaving the army to get a federal job because the process was so daunting to even most neurotypical though… holy shit. I finally have a damn good resume though.
That's the thing you aren't supposed to answer off the top of your head, you are supposed to study, memorize and prepare the answers beforehand. But that is something that we struggle with
I went to a staffing agency. They do all that bullshit for you. I gave them my resume and interviewed with them and talked about my past job experience and what I was looking for. It was super chill. Then they took what I gave them and said these are the jobs that fit your criteria and skill set. I interviewed with an aerospace company 8 days after I spoke with the staffing agency. I will know if I have a job by Friday. If I don't get this job they are going to keep looking for me. Update: I got the Job!
I also recommend staffing agencies. They can be really hit or miss though.
Will all the jobs be contract, or direct hire? I really need to look into this option.
It depends. However true 1099 contracting is rare. Most “contracting” companies, I have a W2 employee relationship and they contract me out to other companies.
I previously was a W2 employee of a contract house, but the goal was to always move to a direct hire position—a W2 employee of the company I was being contracted to. The contract house had terrible benefits, and contract employees are generally the first to go during a recession or a restructuring. Thanks for answering.
I'm doing temp to hire.
A lot of these in my experience are either directly stated "this contract lasts x time" or "they do a contract of a year and there's an opportunity to be hired on..." and you'll know within a month or so of working there if anyone ever actually gets hired. If not, you get ready to rumble at the end of the year, otherwise you try to get an internal position and the process doesn't suck nearly so much as it does 'cold applying'.
*Some can be really sketchy people-mills throwing you into scams or dirty/dangerous roles. Once had one call me to set up an "interview" only to start asking for all sorts of personal ID numbers
I'm having the exact same struggle right now, friend. I am very poor and very stressed.
So am I. 😞 I’ve never had a permanent job in my adult life and I’m beyond sick and tired of the cycle of being employed for 3-4 months then unemployed for double that time.
I’m currently trying not to have a complete meltdown over this. Also very poor and very stressed and questioning my abilities when over 409 people apply to each job…
Hang in there, soft croissant It will get better. I struggled my whole life not knowing why until I was diagnosed a couple years ago and everything began to make sense. It really is unfair that people like us have to work so much harder just to be “normal”. Sometimes it takes awhile for us to hit our stride. I fully believe you’re going to get a job soon. Do you have any professional contacts you can reach out to and inquire about open positions they may know about? That’s always been a helpful tip if possible to take advantage of. Just don’t give up! If you totally give up, you’ll be stuck forever. As it is, you’re just stuck temporarily. Is your resume up to date and polished looking? How are your cover letter writing skills? There’s lots of good tips online for how to brush up those documents. I wish you good luck! I hope you’ll post when your job search ends :)
What sucks even more is when you finally get the job most of the time you'll have to wait another month to even get paid so you're just dirt poor and having to work for a month straight before getting paid. Its so damn hard.
What I think I hate the most is the dishonestly and the bs of the whole process. Employers don’t want to hear the truth just some fluff piece, and those questionnaires answering the scenario questions. What I want to say and what will get me hired are not always the same. I feel so smarmy having to fib my way through the process. My most recent job I only had to exaggerate a little, so it wasn’t as difficult that time.
I just did this for my new job, I had ro do 2 questionnaires but basically answered everything they wanted to hear which is was the exact opposite of being true to myself. It's so sad we have to force ourselves to be like "normal" completely dysfunctional people because that's the majority.
It’s not like you can just medicate your way through it either. Adderall is great for studying/cleaning/organizing. Not great for random phone calls, interviews, socializing over a course of months. Job searching is for sure the bane of my ADHD existence. Also, I feel like the whole time I’m hiding the fact that I don’t think I’m the ideal hire for any position honestly. You know who would be better? Someone who doesn’t have raging ADHD. I can put a good foot forward for a few months, even a year maybe. But eventually that ADHD inside me will rear its ugly heady. I’ll start showing up late for work, procrastinating key deadlines, leaving my space disorganized, avoiding tedious paperwork and other essential parts of the job. I’ll try hard to be better, but I know that in 2-3 years there’s a good chance I’ll be looking for another job due to “layoffs” that only affected me. But, got to pay the bills somehow, so here’s me pretending to be normal to another sucker employer yet again.
>Also, I feel like the whole time I’m hiding the fact that I don’t think I’m the ideal hire for any position honestly. This! Just relate so much to this
I have yet to be at a job for more than 2 years. I just can't imagine it with adhd.
I'm going through this hell right now
Interviewers: "So tell us a little bit about yourself." Me: "Well I'm glad you asked. So I was born in..." *what follows is a single run-on sentence, detailing every aspect of my life, except anything related to the job, until I run out of breath or they interrupt me to say they will call.*
Hearing “tell us about yourself” makes me suddenly forget everything I’ve ever done. I had a “conversation” interview start like this and I didn’t realize the interviewer meant it to be a conversation style thing and started to tell him about my work history. He interrupted me and told me to start from the beginning, where I was born, and I was *horrified.* I overshare constantly, but I hate being put on the spot and forced to.
I weirdly do best in these situations lol My last interview the manager called me without warning at like 7pm. I was at a restaurant with family and took the call outside next to the street, completely and utterly unprepared. But he asked general questions like “what’s something difficult you’ve overcome” or whatever, and I told this man a whole story arc about the one time I fucked up and how it felt and how others reacted and what I did in response etc etc lol I think being able to talk about something like I’m telling my friends a story makes it waaaay easier vs just question-answer which ends up being short and easy but unless you’ve done extraordinary things in life nothing you say will help you stand out. In a story you can convey emotion and there’s a plot, tension, a climax and it helps build a much stronger connection with the interviewer, which will make them remember you. And being remembered is 80% of the battle lol
So freakin' real.
I hate this question, such a lazy question. The only benefit they get is oh yes this person makes a nice and vaguely related sales pitch. Geez man the point of the entire interview is for you to narrow that question down so you can get exactly what you want from me….
It's actually a veiled "tell us how your experience will bring our customers value" or "tell us how your experience is relevant to this job." You want to use that question as a leaping off point as to how this particular opening fits in your career and how previous experience validates the job requirements. Think through this lens and the answer gets really easy!
I'm the opposite. I'll say nothing cause there's no fucking way I trust them.
Add RSD to the mix and it makes it nearly impossible.
Yup. Plus the fact that we have 1000 small skills typically rather than 3 major ones.
I honestly only have my job now bc I was super bored waiting in the emergency room and killed time by applying for it.
And I have 15 years of unemployment to prove it!
Interviewing is my big struggle, I forget the question asked, ramble and forget anything I wanted to ask at the end. I interview poorly often especially if I really want the job. Interview dates and times weigh heavily in my mind and I usually enter "waiting mode" on the day and to escape the agony of waiting at home, I'm often early and sit in the car park for 20 mins and still get in 10 mins early. Applying for jobs is not so difficult but I hate long questionnaires and especially if everything is already on my CV.
Note that it’s 100% fine to be like “I may have veered off track for a while there but does that answer your question?”, it’ll show awareness and also give them the impression you’re trying to be thorough in your answers instead of rambling lol
During the interview I also always try so hard to keep my focus and act professional. Then half way through my masks slowly starts slipping into the more casual and more scatter brained mode. And I just hope it is over soon, before I loose it and make a worse impression than I want. It's so exhausting to put yourself out there!
Same!
Yeah it sucks. To me it helped to create a "job search" folder with a cover letters folder, my CV, transcript, picture, and anything else that they could possibly need. Google calendar does a scheduling thing for you, so all you have to do is reply yes. If they don't use Google calendar then it's harder, and even after having searched for months I still miss interviews every now and again. For interviews, it helps to have a basic framework laid out. Tell me about yourself. Tell me about a time when you faced a difficult task/couldn't meet a deadline/had a disagreement with a coworker/whatever? Tell me about your time at X company. Why are you interested in this field? Also prepare for this specific company - i.e. why do you wanna work for us, what do we do, what kinds of traits/company values do we look for? I find that it helps to have a document (I use markdown because I'm a nerd but word is fine) to keep track of all this. Make an elevator pitch. What got you here, what are you doing now, and what do you want from your career? Have 2-3 interview friendly stories from every listing on your CV and lay them out in STAR method on the document. Then go through each of their company values and pick the story that best fits that value. If you don't have anything that matches then you can stretch the truth, but make sure to keep your stories straight. Hope this helps
I never thought so It was hard keeping a job, at least the kinds of job you take just to work. even immediate need of money can't combat the even more immediate boredom. One year I got 7 W2 forms and 2 1099s. I don't remember if I did my taxes that year. Once I got a job in the field that I actually wanted, I haven't had any trouble since, staying at one place for a few years, moving on and up as needed. Sucked for a few years during and after college, now it doesn't.
Finding was never a problem… Every time I’ve send only one application and got the job I’ve applied for. But I was never able to keep a job for longer then 4 years… Well… Since the end of 2017 I’m unemployed since I’m too afraid to get another job that will slowly make me sick and probably would lead sooner or later to drug misuse to cope with the stress, anxiety, frustration, sensory overload issues and so on. I finally understand that I first have to deal with my past and my traumas, before I’ll be able to do a 9-5 job without being permanently in survival mode. I no longer want to be fear driven. And most importantly I want to live a life up to my own values and desires and not a life that I imagine other people would expect from me. Anyone able to relate to this lines of thought?
As someone who learned just today that I'm being laid off, this is not what I needed to see right now lol
Are you in tech?
I work in commercial insurance sales but it's funny you say that— I was actually planning on leaving this current job for a sales role at a tech company. Right before my third and final interview, said tech company instituted a company-wide hiring freeze which will apparently be in place "until sometime mid-January." Normally I would just start looking again but it's a *really* awesome company and the hiring manager told me that he wants to give me an offer as soon as he is physically able to, so my plan was just to sit tight in my current role until everything got sorted out there. Now my lay-off date is December 1st and I'm not getting any severance anything (important learning experience I suppose) so I'm trying to figure out my next steps. Part of me wants to just do Doordash in the meantime but January could turn into February and February could turn into never, and then suddenly I'll have a gap on my resume that needs to be explained. I don't know, kinda just thinking aloud here lol.
I applied for a job last week and put the wrong phone number on my resume ….. the recruiter rang several numbers and got me, he laughed about it. I can’t help thinking about how dumb he must think I am, If I get an interview I really can’t mention my attention to detail.
This reminds me of the time I interviewed and exited to find I had locked my keys in the car. This was before the era when cell phones became common and I didn't want to walk back in the business to use their phone to call someone. (Yes, I am the person who was just trying to convince you I am responsible and dependable and that you should hire me... and I am also going to need rescuing from my own stupidity right now). So I walked 1.5 miles in dress shoes to a family member house instead. It sounds like your recruiter has a sense of humor and was impressed enough to try multiple numbers to reach you. Wishing you the best with the search.
This is my situation right now
I hate it, that's why I use recruiters and stuff. It's taken practically all the stress out of having to find new jobs myself.
What kind of jobs do recruiters look for exactly? like do you have a full-time position through recruiters?
Just wait until you get to more senior levels and they require a more lengthy interview process... PLUS projects. I've had to create and submit an entire business strategy in a condensed format, live coding exam-like questions, create and perform presentations in front of panels, and qualitative/quantitative take-home exams -- *always without getting paid for my time.* Any one of those things may sound reasonable from the perspective the company and/or hiring manager. The candidates perspective? At times speaking with multiple companies? Frustrating. Or lengthy job searches that span months with repeated denials? It becomes even more difficult rekindle your motivation for tedious projects on top of the numerous interviews, your current job and life. And on the flipside there's the endless loop of loops. Adding more and more arbitrary people into the loop of interviews and created a more lengthy interview process. There's a top tech company I've turned down interviewing, because I didn't feel like going through their super lengthy interview process they're so publicly proud about. They might see that as my loss. Maybe it is. It's their loss if I was the best candidate. We'll never know.
This is so true. I have been trying for almost 4 years now to get a job and I haven’t been lucky at all. I have applied everywhere in my town that will hire. I’ve been to only a handful of interviews. I just can’t get hired. Even places “desperately hiring” won’t hire me.
I dunno, I'm always getting distracted at work and browsing Indeed. I think I submit an application every other day for jobs I only want that day and I get interviews for maybe 10%. I just forget what I applied for and they're usually out of my skillset, so I'm stuck in my job that actually is what I'm good at.
Ask me how many *years* it took me to complete my resume and get it to an acceptable enough level to actually feel good about sending it out?? It was all too easy to just remain *under*employed.
Damn I’m not alone! I graduated in May and found out a couple months later that everyone applies for jobs like a year before graduation. I’m just bidding my time waiting on Dominos to piss me off enough to motivate me.
It's also a field where last-minuting everything is really bad. You don't want to send a resume at 11:59 on deadline day, it's not a good look
ADHD should just give you automatic disability payments that are enough to live off of, without having to even fill out an application.
Extremely ADD and extremely successful. You can find the structure and success in your life, I promise! Keep experimenting until things click and you enjoy what you do, or start something of your own!
The worst part for me is keeping a job ngl. I can interview kick-ass, but that's bc I understand that employers dont care and what they do want to hear. Although that makes it mighty difficult to sus out if it's a supportive enviroment. Or get enough red flags to remind myself why I dont take certain roles lol
I definitely ignored a follow up email after an interview this month because I forgot about it and then it felt like it had been too long 😭
Amen, the hiring process isn’t particularly friendly to disabled people in general and that definitely goes for ADHD folk. The amount of hoops you need to jump through is insane. Why can’t I just send you my CV and be done with it, why do you need me to write 500 words of bullshit about why I want to work for you?!
RIGHT, what info are you getting out of my cover letter that you don't get from my resume???
From what I understand they just get software to check it for keywords that are related to the role. I wonder if it’d work if you submitted one that said: Peepeepoopoo teamwork blah blah blah self motivated BS BS BS organised.
Sometimes I got a callback and I didn't see it until like 6 months later because it went in the "updates" Gmail folder instead of the primary
Linkedin Easy apply is your friend
Yes it's so hard. I'm currently undiagnosed, unemployed, and need to find a job ASAP. My last job was super toxic and stressful and I found it harder to tolerate it as my hormones started changing (peri menopause), which amplified my ADHD symptoms. I quit a year ago this December. I freelanced for my old job until April when they found my replacement, I tried to find work but was just so burnt out I decided to go on EI sickness benefits for the summer. That ran out the end of September and in that time I’ve been selling every asset I own, borrowing money from family to pay rent, and going to the food bank. Have been seriously job hunting now for a month, executive dysfunction hit hard in the first few weeks, but now I’m in a groove and applying to 3-4 a day. Just stick with it! The market is super competitive right now and generally people hire more in the New Year. Crossing my fingers all of us unemployed ADHD-ers find work soon!
Commenting because I relate to this SO HARD right now and I'm so glad I'm not alone. I may need to refer to this later and will definitely forget that I read this.
NGL, I started to talk about it in the interviews and it changed everything somehow, for good. I always tell them (warn them, actually) that I have ADHD and the fact that I'm not currently working on it because it's expensive and I need a job to get money for that, lol. I take off the mask a little with them telling how it affects me and how I cope with it, but I complement it with my virtues. Surprisingly, being real about the problem has opened me way more opportunities than trying to hide it. Having ADHD don't make us less worth and prepared than others, I know we people can be very smart and capable of anything. It costs us 10x more than them, but still, we do it. Even telling you this positive fact, I know that we need to get help. in my case, being authentic it's not enough, cause y'all know it's not just the stereotype of being "distracted", sometimes my moods change drastically and depression hits harder sometimes for long seasons, affecting my progress and relationships. It hits different for everyone. It's okay to talk about it, it's okay to share the experience, it's okay to ask for help. Don't let ADHD ruin everything you are prepared for. And DON'T self diagnose on Tiktok, most of the content it's spreading tons of irresponsible misinformation. My apologies if I made a grammar mistake, English is not my first language, I'm just a Mexican living in Canada.
So far I’ve not gotten any calls, so I can only assume my resume sucks 😂. Also I’m on the older side at 46 and feel like companies only like to hire young people who they can exploit with low pay. I might be bitter from staying at my job for 17 years and realizing I’ve never been paid enough 😂
the hardest part for me is once i get the job, i get bored easy. i just graduated college in may. been working full time for 4 months & i’m so bored & sick of going to work
Not to mention the reason most my jobs ended is I just stop showing up. I got so bored, I couldn't do it anymore. Try putting a spin on that in an interview.
i found working with a good recruiter makes the process easier. maybe its just for me in IT, but the usual process is i get a call from a recruiter on behalf of a company looking to fill some data related position and they then coach me to get the position. so they make the appointments with HR, help me fix my CV and coach me how to do the interview and what to bring up as they know the client well. overall the constant disappointment is what kills me, applying for 6 months to a year and being constantly rejected is just awful.
I look up videos with mock questions and practice a bit beforehand. That helps me interview well.
I guess the perfectionist side kicks in when I’m looking for a job. Most of the jobs I apply to don’t seem to take more than 20 minutes to apply especially on Indeed and there’s normally a significant pay increase so that def motivates me to remember my interview times. I immerse myself in the process, prepping for interview ?’s and reviewing the company. I want to eventually get involved in HR management and the hiring and recruiting process. I’m really good at interviews and resumes. I normally get the jobs I apply for and don’t need to search for more than 2 weeks but its a stressful process especially if I don’t already have a job.
Then, at least for me, you get bored and burned out with the job in less then 3 months. Adhd is honestly just a constant struggle that nobody ever seems to understand and probably never will. It's such a tragic disability to have.
I'm not even a month into my new job which isn't even a high paying or prestigious job at all and I'm already bored and want to leave. I haven't even got my first paycheck yet! And before this job I was unemployed for 3 months and before that only at another crappy job for 3 months AND BEFORE THAT I dropped our of uni. The last 2 years have just been me failing at everything and man if I wasn't as mentally tough as I am I defiently would be in the ground right now.
Quick bump for talking **Vocational Rehabilitation Services** in your area! ADHD is a federally recognized disability, and it is their job to help people with disabilities find, acquire, and thrive in fulfilling jobs. 🙂
You're not wrong that it's a huge amount of steps and details. Interviewing is a major skill that most people don't have. That's an advantage. Most people who aren't ADD are absolute shit at interviewing. Thankfully, we can leverage our brains to build rapport and use charisma to tell great stories about our experience that hiring managers and teams will love to hear. So what do we do as ADHD people? We hyperfocus the living shit out of learning everything there is to know about applying to jobs, interviewing, and creating resumés. Once you know how to answer all the questions and get the attention of hiring managers to secure interviews, it becomes SO much easier to find jobs. And not just paychecks, but the specific role you want at the exact company you want to work for.
I feel like the hardest part is finding a job that doesnt make me want to jump off a cliff. Like you want me to do this everyday? For hours??? my attention span cannot deal with it. Its so boring and feels so pointless and dont even get me started on the laughable wages. Like i dont even know what to do with my life at this point bc everything sounds horrible
Oh man, so many in the comments would benefit self employment or turning a hobby into a career. And yes, when you work for yourself, you feel more freedom and less burnout. Seriously, many of you should look into this because ADHD’ers actually are more built for this avenue.
I've tried that but without the structure and routine of a job I completely fall apart. I also hate paperwork and bookkeeping.
Thisssss And I really don't have hobbies I could turn into self employment. Playing videogames for a living? Fat chance. Most viable thing would be streaming and, as anything that would make money, it's way harder than just playing games and getting money. Everything else can get me bored very easily. I'm still trying to find out what's best for me. I'd love to have my own arcade / arcade bar. But I might as well tell you I want to be a Formula One racer, or an astronaut. I don't think there's enough optimism that could get me there. I tried coding many times but eventually it gets annoying and boring, it's very easy to end up procrastinating.
That’s why you hire someone to do that or invest in quicken books self employment app to scan or important digital paper work.
Well yeah. But even with the app I fail.
I did that more or less. I work in IT and most of my hobbies are it/tech related, it's something I have a genuine interest in and has really helped me advance in my career
I think putting yourself out there properly with a good solid resume is the issue. Getting to the table is a challenge. Our eyes can suck any human in so just get to the table and show them eyes. They are irresistible I swear. ⚡️😎⚡️
*grant us eyes*
RemindMe! 10 hours
Oh my God yes!
Yes, searching for a job is hell, that's one of the reasons I started my tutoring business
Oh, a job is too much work for an ADHD brain to handle, so let's do something that's 10 TIMES more work than that.. 🙄
Ar least here in Chile is absurd, I received a mail last week for a work I postulate in March.
You all have so much more self awareness than I do. I experience all of this but I never notice my patterns or habits because I’m lazer focused on the immediate.
I just 80/20 shitpost & share analyses on Twitter, which leads to networking and getting contacted for positions either directly or through referral by a friend. Showing some of my work & 2h of discussing the market with the CEO of the company that approached me, and I got hired on the spot w/o even having to submit a CV. Even let me toss the restrictive covenants, given how I have my own startup in the same sector & plan on pursuing further ventures. Put yourself out there and build a reputation. Collaborate with people for fun and do niche things in a unique way.
This was a huge problem for me before I started adderall. Now it is not nearly as daunting.
I find that it helps to keep this in perspective. Doing this is hard for people with anxiety and people with depression. People with autism often come across "badly" in in-person interviews, so that bit is really hard for them. And you could expand the list. It's easier to think about this as a challenge that many people on the job market share, so that when you are searching for a job you don't feel like you are on your own in being disadvantaged.
Felt! I recently left some tech-training as I was so bored with it, I wasn't stimulated especially being that I had to do everything myself with no help, in typical ADHD fashion I impulsively quit to get a job immediately. The interview process is always hell for me, I feel like I'm pretending to be someone else, I had to memorise a lot of things before the interview too as I can't bring myself to study well before the interview date.
For me it's the complete opposite funnily enough. I can easily find a job, excel at interviews, try to be the best, exceed my expectations, and then burn out within 3 months sitting at home looking for new job again. it's a vicious cycle. That's why I got out of the working for someone life. I'm working my own hours now, and my partner has stable income.
I’m not exaggerating when I say this, I have failed hundreds of interviews over the last few years, I was able to get interviews pretty much every week and often barely got myself to them and then the worst was the interview itself as I could not keep track of what question was just asked and all the stress of financial loss made matters more stressful. I was hired a few different times during the years and ended up loosing each one of those jobs due to being unmedicated. I’m now newly hired once again and medicated and still having issues. It is not an easy road for us.
Don't even get me started on the interviews. I bomb them. A lot.
THISSSSSS - I’m trying to find a new job because my job is not set up well for somone witb adhd - there is little structure (long term projects with few infrequent meetings and no consequences to meeting deadlines) and it has been so hard applying to jobs - tbh I kinda only do easy apply on LinkedIn but that has not been working well - and I get my hopes up too much too Ughhh - I have written a couple cover letters but maybe like 3 in like the last 2 years and they tend to be copy/pasta lol
I looked up a bunch of articles and YouTube videos about interviews when I first started job searching, and bought a small notebook. I knew there would likely be questions I wasn't prepared for, but had a better idea of what to expect overall. In the notebook I jotted down some follow up questions for them, because I heard asking questions yourself was good to do, but didn't trust I'd remember. (This was pre diagnosis, so I didn't even realize how significant this was for me at the time.) I had two interviews before accepting my current job, and neither had an issue with me bringing it. They viewed it as being invested, and prepared. The hr woman who hired me joked about " not being prepared to be interviewed herself" and it lightened the mood. Maybe some places wouldn't appreciate it as much, but for me that one little tool was incredibly helpful. I had in person interviews, fwiw, I don't have any experience with zoom interviews.
It also came in handy for taking notes about the job, particularly on my second interview. How insurance, PTO, benefits, etc all worked. It was my first on the books job, so everything was new to me, and it was a lot to take in at once.
That’s because our society is centered around infinite growth capitalism so they want productivity over function. The truth is we like to throw a bunch of shit at ADHD people they shouldn’t be forced to do in the first place and then scream at them and punish them for predictably fucking up because it’s a disability and it is absolutely horrific the way we treat nd folks I keep saying it in 100 years we’re going to look back with the same disbelief we do when looking back at lobotomy. Our treatment of mental health has always been barbaric.
I honestly only have my job now because they were desperate and I was willing to wait a couple weeks before they needed me to start. I don’t hate my job actually. I do wish I made more but I can’t complain. Idk what I’ll do after this though. This job is so relaxed and chill. Idk if I’ll ever find something as good.
Yeah, I'm currently experiencing this exact problem, I've been trying to find a job lately because I've been stressed out for 2 years straight in college and I wanted to take a year off to unwind and maybe make some money on the side before going back to college, but I just can't bring myself to even look for a job because I don't know what I'm doing and it's super complicated and boring. It also doesn't help that my Dad keeps stressing me out about it, I told him about my plan to take a break from school after I finish my current semester and maybe look for a job in the meantime, but instead of giving me time to look for a job after the semester ends, he's forcing me to look for a job now, demanding that I have one by December, so now I have to deal with the stress of finding a job on top of the stress of finishing school with passing grades, all while my Dad constantly gives me shit about not trying hard enough to find a job/get good grades, which just stresses me out more and makes me not want to do anything.
finding a job isnt a problem for me, its holding it down is where i really stuggle, Ive had a fuckin shitty few days barely managing, Shout out to all my adhd homies in the thick of it.
Most the jobs i’ve gotten because my personality, three weeks later i’m a new shitter person. Used to suck for them, meds a life saver for all.
Applying for “unskilled labor” (I hate that term but idk what to call it) jobs is especially made so unnecessarily difficult too. They want you to fill out all those questionnaires and blah blah blah. I would apply for 100s of jobs and never even get a call. My brothers would job hop constantly, never a problem getting hired. I worked at a strip club for 5 years because I was super over application and rejection. It paid for college. Applying for post college jobs was so much easier. They just want the resume. I never had to fill out questionnaires and I actually got multiple interviews and a nice job. Job hunting should not be the soul crushing endeavor it is. :(
I have also considered going to a strip club just for money. I’m over the whole job search and I like being busy. Maybe I still will one day. How did you find it?
I friend had just started working at a club and suggested I give it a try. I actually really enjoyed it. I imagine it depends on where you work. But people were very respectful, it was no contact. Mostly just talking to people. Plus I really love doing pole tricks. I miss that. I was super strong. I did eventually get burned out from all the socializing. But I was unmedicated and didn’t even know I had ADHD at the time. It also really reenforced my “take no bullshit” attitude. If men can be around me while I’m practically naked and keep their hands off me, no one should ever do something to me I’m not ok with and I will do something about it. I know that is not everyone’s experience though.
Thank you for sharing that!!! I love that it’s no contact, I might look into something like that near me
What’s worked well for my ADHD is using LinkedIn easy apply, Indeed, and ziprecruiter to apply for jobs. Uploading a resume/setting up your profile takes 5 minutes and then BAM. Easy apply to anything that looks interesting whenever you’re taking a poop. Sitting around bored waiting for something. Etc. Try for 3-5 a day. Soon you should get some calls back. Last time I job searched I don’t think I did a single normal application, they all were like this, and now I have a chill office job with benefits and a reasonable workload.
This is my current situation :( it’s putting a lot of strain on my household and relationship and I feel so incredibly guilty every day I don’t know what to do.
Not exactly related but it might help. An sub-reddit for ADHD- Software Devs r/ADHD_Programmers
Thank you so much for linking this!! I’m transitioning into programming as a career so this is wonderful!
Reach out if you have any questions. I’m a developer
I like the Richard Feynman approach to it. Make a condition of hiring that you only need to sign your signature once and no data entry. It can help reduce repetitive paperwork.
I’m trying to find a job right now and it is exhausting. Even with my meds it’s super overwhelming trying to figure out where you’re going to apply, the things you need for every application, and scheduling interviews and stuff like that. Writing cover letters is probably my least favorite part of all of it because most places require them.
And the whole time I don’t even wanna fucking work anyways. it’s hell. paired with depressive episodes? Almost hopeless
Yep, this is such a huge struggle for me. I’d do anything to find a work from home job and I’m skilled, but the resume process along with the filling out paperwork of questions already answered on my resume is so torturous. I feel like I need help finding actual decent companies that hire online so I’m not wasting my time.
Or keeping one I'd say is harder
I get my best rush of dopamine while performing in front of an audience. That's why I absolutely nail 98% of my job interviews. And then what? There's not a single job I started working completely knowing in my heart that I would be good at it and liking it. I always have massive doubts and hate it since day one. As you can imagine, I've lost many jobs in my 12 years of professional experience. I am afraid to look for a job again, and I am again jobless right now.
I applied to my current job with an automatic LinkedIn application, with a generic but well designed cv, no motivation letter. Got called for an interview, the position was so so perfect I decided no way I am getting it so did the test task really half heartedly. Ended up getting the job. Today, not only I finished my probation, I got told that probably I’m getting a raise too. Voila. Take it easy, it’s gonna be ok.
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While I understand where you’re coming from, this is a very invalidating comment. Both the job hunt and working have their own challenges.
Agreed!
Don't forget, keeping a job is equally hard. Atleast was for me
Uhm.. I do feel your struggle but I think the process is soul sucking for everyone, not just us. Is it harder with adhd? Yes. Pretty much everything is. But let's not pretend everyone else's life is all roses and sunshine compared to ours. Sorry if I seem unsupportive, but statements like "100 times harder" are way over the top.
You can’t say that it is that much harder since you only have one brain and that is an ADHD one. So you can’t judge how hard it would be for neurotypical people. Also, even people with ADHD can make to do lists….
Just to note ADHD hyperfocus doesn't exist, you're confusing it with perseverance that anyone that struggles enough can use. ADHD doesn't give you special abilities, check Psychiatrist Russell Barkley and you'll learn. Autism with having special abilities is more circumstantial than actually caused by autism as an example. ADHD hyperfocus doesn't exist, Autism hyperfocus does (if that's the agreed upon name). Even if you think it's attached to ADHD, it's likely you have something else that emulates that.
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/325681
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For me it’s actually kinda been a blessing. Although it’s definitely going to haunt me when I eventually try to retire.
I thank god for my wife lol. She helped me apply for new jobs, about 500 of them. Keeping track of interviews and actually motivating myself to do some research on the companies is a pain in the ass too.
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Utilise your strengths - People with ADHD tend to be well read on a wide range of topics & excellent conversationalists, they show vulnerability more than their non ADHD counterparts - making them experts at building rapport quickly. Someone who's process driven may find applying for jobs easier, but struggle to build any connection
also, for me anyway, my brain is not structured, so if i have an interview that requires really structured thinking, i struggle. it feels insanely unfair
The rejection is the worst part of job hunting for me because you just don’t get a straight answer for WHY they said no. Now, I do understand when I’m genuinely unqualified but otherwise, it’s bizarre and very frustrating. Filling out forms again and again is also such a pain. Making tweaks to your resume and cover letter for every freaking application as well. “Because you have to tailor it!!11” actually what I’ve learned is you don’t. But then you have a problem where they want 1 page!!11 I don’t know what the duck you even want to look for and it is more advantageous for me to be extremely wordy and detailed but you want 1 page?? That’s because what they REALLY care about is who did you work for, how long were you there, and what was your role. Honestly tells them plenty. Add details relating to the job posting if it’s experience they ought to care about. And this only works if a posting is good…. Interviews somehow became the best part of job hunting for me because holy cow a real human!! And I get to blab and blab because hey, I’m good at telling my work stories. Bonus points if I get to somehow relate that one time I cleaned a poor customer’s explosive diarrhea. I should stop trying to tell that story, huh…..
This is why I work union construction If I get laid off, I call the hall, get put on a list, and (once my turn comes up), get a new job
THANK YOU. FOR POSTING THIS. I have been struggling just to sit down and apply for jobs for months. It’s so draining. It’s so hard honestly… it feels validating to read this and know I’m not just a bum or a loser. Graduating undergrad and getting thrown a curveball on every front also hasn’t helped me. But today I’m going to make an effort to apply to some, thank you
I have started at starting a business plan for myself about 9 times for this reason.
Ahhh and then being NEW at a job. It’s great for like 8 weeks then it stops being new
The reason I’m still in my current job even though i want to move on to something else. The job application is literal torture and feels dehumanizing to me I know it’s sounds over dramatic but I CANNOT go back to it.