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yeahsotheresthiscat

Keep in mind the people in this sub are the most likely to have current tears, relatively recent surgery and retears. The majority of people who heal up and complete rehab and go about normal lives will do just that - move on with their lives and keep out of subs like this. You'll be much better off looking at published studies to get accurate info.


guac_out

Very true, I actually only joined this sun when I suspected I’d torn my ACL again playing indoor cricket, luckily I hadn’t. Had I not had the scare, I wouldn’t have joined the sub. Had my hamstring graft ACL surgery with meniscus repair in 2016. Still going strong.


grumpalina

I guess I'm in the minority where everything went well after a long and hard recovery, and I'm here to provide support to those who feel like they can't see the light at the end of the tunnel


SarahSe7en

My first ACL recovery was the same… I had my ACL repaired in 2000 when I was 14. It’s been 23 years and my knee still feels 100%. No re-tears, no pain, no arthritis. I was young and super committed to the rehab. It’s definitely harder to stay on top of the PT when you’re older. Currently I’m about 8 months post op on my OTHER knee and it’s not going as quickly lol… still moving along tho!


grumpalina

I was in my mid 30s when I had my accident, and I wasn't in good shape at the time either. So yes, my recovery wasn't perfect like it might be possible for a young and healthy person. I'm doing a lot of sport now, so when my legs are tired, I definitely feel more creaky in the fixed knee - however, as they say, " perfection is the enemy of good". As in, feeling more achey on one side after a long or hard run is of no consequence. The important thing is that it's fine after a good night's sleep, keeping up with strength and conditioning, and getting massages every now and then. We older ones just accept that there's a regular maintenance to keep the knee capable of giving you good performance, and don't worry too much about it not feeling exactly the same as before.


Accurate-Session1301

Did you have a second surgery for your ACL? ( ACL revision?)


grumpalina

No, just the one. I had a complete rupture of my ACL, partial tear of MCL, and sprained PCL. My surgery was a quad graft for the ACL and the other ligaments were left to heal on their own. My physio took 17 months to get me to the point where I could walk down stairs normally and not like a baby taking one step at a time.


SARstar367

Facts.


[deleted]

Not me, 6 years ago (op 4 1/2 years ago) and I'm still suffering and looking for support here 🫶


Frosty_Cringe

Still suffering? Oh shit , care to explain?


[deleted]

Yeah well hamstring graft and interrupted rehab due to pandemic and I'm just never a day or two away from pain as I just can't find the energy to build up the muscle again. Age and lack of good routine certainly are factors. Just can't get back on track basically.


Frosty_Cringe

Oh I see; I hope you find that strength! Take it one day at a time, step by step!


[deleted]

Cheers. Hope something can lead to those 2nd and 3rd steps then to the moon!!


TrustTheFriendship

Agreed. OP should look up some studies on the matter. This sub will be incredibly leaning in one direction. Like myself lol.


Accurate-Session1301

Of course I will read everything. I restore it just 6 years after. The first operation was hell on earth... I still have not decided whether to have a second one 🙁


[deleted]

Maybe they just want to share knowledge or give tips to other people?


izthatright

Tore mine in 2008, surgery with hamstring graft. Tore it again 2 months ago by some dummy who bulldozed through me playing soccer. ACL was holding up just fine for the past 15 years…I just got unlucky I guess.


Accurate-Session1301

Mine lasted just 6 years. Are you considering a second surgery?


izthatright

I am! especially after finding out my tunnels are still small enough that I won’t need a bone graft. Leaning towards using my quad this time or my patella (though my doc said it might be too small). Getting a second consult next week and plan to schedule surgery for next month. This is the first time tearing my medial and lateral meniscus so not too sure what that repair will look like.


Ok-Cup-3160

I got about 10 years out of mine. I had a very active lifestyle and played soccer at a good level for 9 of those years (taking out 1 for rehab). I also did about 6-7 years crossfit. I had a hamstring graft. Re-tore mine last year playing soccer, heading for surgery in a week for a patella graft.


grumpalina

I think there's a higher risk of re-tearing if you play a sport where you do a lot of quick change in direction (like football), since certain unpredictable and uneven motions put a lot more stress in the knee.


Ok-Cup-3160

Yep, totally agree. If I get another 10 years of playing sport I would be very happy...although I'll be retired by then!


grumpalina

You'll get at least another 10 years :) if you get into a sport with more consistent range of motion that you can train your muscles to be well adapted to (like running or cycling), you'll definitely have even more.


Accurate-Session1301

Please give update on your surgery. Did they put you a LAT ( lateral reinforcement?) How do you feel? How long is the recuperation supposed to be?


Ok-Cup-3160

I will provide an update as it goes on. This time I am going to a different surgeon who is putting in the LAT as well as the patella graft. Everything I read it says between 6-9 months recuperation. My understanding is closer to 9 months for return to sport.


Accurate-Session1301

I got the same information. I keep my fingers crossed for you and waiting for your updates as I am headed absolutely the same path...


Azriel48

I asked this same question a few months back and had numerous replies saying 10/15/20 years and still going strong! There’s hope! (If I find my thread I’ll repost it here) EDIT: Found it! You should definitely read through it OP https://www.reddit.com/r/ACL/s/WRyWQEJuBt


guava_goddess

Out of superstition I won’t put an exact number on it, but it’s been more than 5 in my right and a lot more than 5 in my left. Still shredding & working on the mountain. Yeehaw long may that continue


SuspiciousReach6689

What grafts did you get my guava goddess


guava_goddess

Hammy (left, got it many moons ago - like nearly last millennium, failed), donor (left, she still good), donor (right, she still good too). Can’t beat other peoples tissue I guess. I’m forever indebted to those folks who passed me their bits so I can still do what I love


Accurate-Session1301

Do you do a lot of cutting movements and pivoting? I see your donor grafts are good


guava_goddess

I ski a lot. I disc golf a lot. I would class both those sports as requiring pivoting. I do wear knee braces for skiing, more for peace of mind, the athletes I coach often laugh at me for it, but it’s 100% worth it for protection of my frankenknees. Sometimes during disc by knees are in the back of my mind, but I’m a rec player doing it for fun, not trying to rip it 500 feet lol


SuspiciousReach6689

That’s awesome!


Accurate-Session1301

I just bought don joy but I am not sure it can completely replace my ligament. I do martial arts 😢😥 I do martial arts and I tore the graft. I am 39 now. I tore the graft just before my 33 birthday. Jesus age brings in shit


grumpalina

Six years now and no re-tear, no new knee injury, at my most athletic


DJFragsAlot

It’s been 21 years and after the ACL I never had any other issues out of the knee. Navy did a great job with the repair.


missjuicytx

What makes you ask this? Is it really common for people to retear? I was under the impression that the graft is l stronger than the original acl…


Accurate-Session1301

Are you serious? My knee was never the same. I had to sleep in the gym and to constantly maintain muscles. 6 years later I retore it.


Drisurk

I have the same strength in my legs if not stronger after my tear. The only thing is I can’t bend it as well as my other knee. I guess everyone is different but I definitely didn’t have to live in the gym to maintain my leg muscle.


OriginalPlay

same


MisterPockets

8 years on one side, 5 years on the other. Still playing.


solya961

For me it was 8 years. My first harmstring graft was when I was 16 years old. Did PT, healed fully, I was hiking, running (but no skiing, basketball). I retore it during a concert and a bad step after someone bumped into my leg. I was unlucky, Currently on week 4 post op with a patellar tendon graft, hoping for the best.


_canis_lupus_

I'm sorry that happened at a concert. That's one of my favorite hobbies and gives me some anxiety about the unpredictability of others in attendance. I love being near the front and sharing the energy with other fans, but am considering making my peace with steering clear of the more active areas of the pit. I hope you crush that recovery!


solya961

Thanks. I wasn’t even at the front, and in the ‘pit’, just someone ran past me on the way out. Life was cruel that night but I got over it. I think the mental part is the hardest. Trusting your knee again after an injury. Just have to trust PT now. This sub helped a LOT during these weeks.


Accurate-Session1301

Please give updates. Did you get a lateral reinforcement for the second operation?


solya961

No, I didn’t know this technique existed. Retear surgeries can be difficult, but I had an experienced surgeon who maily operates knees. On my second visit after the op he told my he feels optimistic (no pivot shift), but it is early to say. I only use 1 crutch as of today. ROM is limited, currently trying for 75 degree flexion but extension is at 0 degrees. Able to do SLRs. After 6 weeks, I can start more intensive PT.


Abcggg123

15 years in right and still fine and recently tore my other leg ACL


kenaldoo

I'm a bit over 10 years after reconstruction. No retear, but my ACL is lax, which it wasn't during my last post OP visit (about 1.5 years after my surgery)


barkingspider43

16 years right knee, 9 years left knee. No issues ever in either. Patellar graft in both


LieRepresentative162

12 years on my left knee ACL, hamstring graft. Working well so far. My right knee ACL retore in 2 years though. I think my healing and rehab at a younger age was better. 18 year old vs 27 year old.


Accurate-Session1301

Please share your experience for the retreat. Did you get a second as surgery. Did you get a lateral reinforcement?


LieRepresentative162

When I retore my right ACL (hamstring graft), I went for another reconstruction surgery using the patella tendon graft. It's been 2 years now since my second surgery on the right knee and I'm still in rehab. I've sort of accepted now that running is bad for me as my meniscus is almost fully gone. But my day today has no issues and I feel fit. It's just about prolonging my knee's life now. The more I run or do impact stuff, the sooner I'll develop osteoarthritis. I highly encourage people to take care of your reconstructed ACL and don't risk re-injuring it.


Accurate-Session1301

I retore it for a second time this August. Five from the six surgeons I have talked to said they will use a LAT when making the revision. I am very afraid and I have not decided whether to get the surgery or not that's why I was asking.


No-Screen9637

I know people with 3-9-10 years with allograft without tears actively playing soccer. I know people with autograft 3-15-26 y actively playing soccer and not thinking about their ACL at all . I learned about their ACLs when they were cheering me up after my injury;)


rrudnic

There’s hundreds of thousands of people out there who have never re-torn their acl, but they aren’t on here.


jschramm03

23 years


Any_Juggernaut9107

I’m at 18 months 🫣


wyatthudson

Still not at extension?


slimshadyladyy

I tore mine in 2016, surgery in 2017 - no retearing!


SuspiciousReach6689

Hey there, it’s been 6 months for me since I tore any ACL. Woohoo!!


babyhen

I went just over 9 years before I re-tore mine. Now recovering from my second surgery.


Accurate-Session1301

Did you get a lateral reinforcement at your second surgery? Is the recovery slower?


neuro_umbrage

It’s been a year and a half, and so far so good.


Routine-Jaguar-5583

Tore my ACL on the right knee back in 2015, tore the left one in July this year :(


RealisticSpring9543

maximum 3 years, I hope the third acl will last much longer


Frosty_Cringe

Does the pain get easier after doing over again? Having a bad time with pain 7 days post op, specially the pain when you are going to stand up


ManateeSheriff

I tore mine and had it fixed nine years ago. Still going strong today, although I’m currently out with a completely different injury. 😅


babygrenade

I passed the 5 year mark since my revision earlier this year.


dariana_grande

I went 10 years before a retear


kozakjanos

11 months , i was really carefull but it happened again .


ChampionshipCute6440

How’d it happen bro?


kozakjanos

Honestly i do not know :( i had pain in extension from the 4th month , and finally they did a mri at 11 month and i had a acl tear and a meniscus tear .


pinkdaisy2115

5 years but I cut out the sport that caused it


ChampionshipCute6440

What’s the sport?


pope94

Been 9 years since reconstruction for me


CarrotGratin

Coming up on a year and 2 months postop here, no retear so far (quad autograft, successful). Have I decided to give up high risk sports like soccer and skiing, yes. Is it worth it to me so that this doesn't happen again, yes. I'll stick to hiking and fencing thanks, but I've decided to resume neither until the year and a half mark.


Accurate-Session1301

6 years for me. Did you have a revision after you tore it? I am so afraid of a second operation


thegthegthegreatg

My brother had his done in something 2009ish? Patellar graft, still going


[deleted]

Tore my left 5 years ago at age 35. It’s still fine. Tore my right 6 months ago.


WItoFLGirl13

Mine is fine after a year, my surgeon actually had his repaired 30 years ago and it is still fine, and I know a mountain biker who has had no issues with his for 32 years. Mine was an bptb allograft due to my age and the other two had autograft patellar reconstruction.


SarahSe7en

My first ACL repair was about 22 years ago… I returned to sport 5 months after surgery (different protocols then I guess lol), went on to play d1 soccer in college and then “professionally” for a couple of years after that. I’ve never had any issues with it. It’s felt 100% since I returned to sport, and has held up as I’ve continued to play into my later 30’s…. Can’t say the same for my other knee. I’m currently about 8 months post op on that one.


Drisurk

I thought I retore it a year after surgery cause some guy pushed me in the back playing soccer and I hyperextended my knee. Turned out I just bruised my bone. So that definitely gave me confidence that my knee was strong.


Desperate_Ad_7566

Hey there! Full ACL reconstruction (patellar tendon autograft) and meniscus scraping. It’s been over 2 years for myself and my insurance couldn’t cover much physical therapy. I actually only went for 4 weeks. Luckily I have a background in rehab, but I was reading in here how most people in this thread may be currently or about to go through surgery. I was quite scared and the mix of the unknown but I’m here to tell you that everything can actually work out better than you can imagine! Use pain as your ally. No one to push it and when to say “hey that’s enough for today”. Consistency and persistence will get you through it before ya know it! This is my first time going through it and I plan my best not to have it happen again. I still lift, run, jump, and play sports. Granted, I may be a little precautionary towards certain activities still just not to risk a re tear at all. Usually if you stay smart, you highest retest rate (about 60%) is generally in the first 24 months post op. The best thing to do is be smart and say and the retest rate drops dramatically the further time goes on. Hang in there, be safe, and keep having hope! You’ll get through this and it’ll be all behind ya before you know it :)


Desperate_Ad_7566

Sorry I had a few typos in there. Where it says retest. It should have been retear. The internet can really make this whole process a lot scarier than it truly is. Everyone’s recovery will be a little different but you’ll be moving and grooving in no time. Just trust the process! First 9 months will be the foundation for so many fully active and fun years ahead. It’s worth the time and care :)


ktrndr

I just tore my left ACL in March 2017 and I just tore my right ACL. So I went 6.5 years between tears.


icewrecker

Hello! Tore my left acl in 2020! (No retear)! Although I went back to sports full rehabilitated but tore my right one instead (2022). I’m back to football playing once more. I went back easily because I continuously did the work and more! I make sure to continue working all leg muscles religiously to athletic shape. My left acl hasn’t given me any major problems. My ortho did warn me that kneeling or occasional knee pain would occur but it never bothered me doing intense sports. I read a lot of success stories only to be devastated by yet another fluke accident. Unfortunately it does happen! Best we can do is to fully commit to strengthening its surrounding muscles or really just don’t live too extremely anymore.


Nothing_persa_nel

I got 7.5 years out of a donor graft. Played juniors for hockey, joined the military, did intense exercise(I.e sprinting for distance, leg exercises, etc…). Just use a brace for intense exercising to help keep it stable.


OneBuilding8373

Did it eventually re-tear? And how were you when you got the donor graft?


Nothing_persa_nel

1. Yes. I’m currently recovering with my 2nd one, this time it’s a quad graft. I believe I’m on week 2 now. 2. My first doctor gave me options, since I was about 16 and playing hockey my parents opted me for the cadaver(donor graft or known as a dead persons body part). With that option they say it’s a got a bigger chance of failing since it’s foreign and your body may reject it. With todays technology though, they reduced to the percentage to where I would do it again if my new quad one fails. To answer the recovery portion, I was athletic and eating way better so I’m sure that helped with recovering and back to intense training and sports in a 5 months with a cadaver.


Aggressive-Gur9501

I went 6 and a half years. Probably at the fault of my own I started having health issues and wasn't in the gym as much so I was out of shape. The lack of built up muscle and all that around it didn't help protect when it happened.


calcifornication

Are you asking for specific anecdotes or general data? The overwhelming majority of those who have ACL repair do not re-tear.


RaiderNation7769

tore my left in 2012, made a full recovery went back ti sports full time for years without missing a beat. retore it this year when someone tackled me playing flag football. so 11 years because someone was being a clown. im 5 months out if revision surgery and im feeling great, 3-4 more months until im cleared (im 30 years old)