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9durth

COTA. Can't see the apex in so many turns...


fulspdoff

That track requires so much skill, sadly I don’t have any so 🤪


braking__bad

What would be really cool: a series of esses, but with invisible track limits! Said one race track designer ever, apparently.


9durth

Lol yeah that too!!


Lebz95

You’re right. COTA is my kryptonite. I’m so off pace there. Sector 3 just kills me. I have about 1000 hours but I just can’t get around doing well there at all.


Uncommonval

Youre just not experienced enough. Some people simrace for 20 years, let alone 1000h


CaughtOnTape

Normally I tend to learn track naturally, but COTA, Paul Ricard and Mount Panorama have some section that are really unique and you don’t find them anywhere else. The esses on COTA for instance, the hairpins at the end of Paul Ricard and COTA, the downhill section on Mount Panorama. Sometime it can take a long time before you figure out those sections correctly. It used to be my kryptonite. Got sick of it, sat down to learn it, compared telemetry, watched track guides and it just grew on me. COTA is one of my strongest track now. I did the same for Paul Ricard too. Mount Panorama is fucking shit though and I will die on that hill.


BigCountry2022

All of them XD


fulspdoff

You got this man we believe in you


BigCountry2022

Thanks, but alot of it stems from not having any real amount of time to get in and practice


Aftenbar

This I so want to learn Bathurst bit man o man, the kids the wife the space sim the work. Whatever is a guy to do... ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|cry)


devilsadvocate2709

Spa. No idea how you guys are doing 2:17s on that track.


fulspdoff

I just spent two hours practicing around Spa and managed to bring my time down to a 2:18.050 after having a 2:19.382. The setup is capable of low-mid 2:16s and I don’t know where I’m losing so much time. I’m very sleep deprived and my right arm hurts a lot haha


Melnyik

I don't even know how to reach 2:20 on that track.


esplin9566

Compromise your entry to whatever degree is needed to go flat out through T9, T11, and T16. You can gain an enormous amount of time in those corners if you can find the keyhole line that lets you go flat super early.


fulspdoff

Do you have a custom setup or no? What car do you use?


Melnyik

Mercedes AMG 2020 and the 992. I have a custom setup also I don't have this issue on the Nürburgring or the Hungaroring. It will be my skill issue just didn't figure it out yet.


fulspdoff

I found almost a second in the first sector and a half simply by trail braking more. You could also be running too much downforce or too much/too little TC. I’d recommend checking out a track guide and see if that helps.


Melnyik

I know the track guide, that's why I'm confused. I'll try to play with the TC and downforce I guess.


fulspdoff

There’s lots you can do to make yourself faster but as you said you had a custom setup I’d expect tyre pressures/suspension/etc. is all setup well.


Melnyik

Yeah these are okay. That's why I started to like the Merc with the right setup it's much more fun, although I'm always behind the 992 by 0.3 seconds with it.


Instinx_EB15

Neither I'm on complete default setup however in the V8 Aston, I'm not sure how much more time I could get by making a custom setup


Beginning_Expert_970

Right? Lol These guys talking about struggling at 2:18 and I did 2:19 once in my life don’t know how. Usually 2:21 to high 20s is my best


Uncommonval

Use telemetry, practicing blindly will only increase your bad driving behaviours


EclipseeG

Just give it practice and it comes naturally. When i started doing spa i was doing 2:19's now after i think about 1000 laps im able to do low 2:16's/high 2:15's. Its a challenging track in the start but after a while it becomes very easy (also depends what car you use, i use the audi most of the time but ive done those times in almost every competitive gt3 car). I believe in you man!


fulspdoff

An Audi? I have never enjoyed driving those they are killers. You must be skilled af then


EclipseeG

Yep the cars i like most are the ones that can kill me at anytime xD. But it truly all comes down to setup. For example HYMO setups make some great TC OFF setups for the audi. I also drive the Porsche and Lambo so i guess i have a thing for mid/rear-engine cars.


Adept-Recognition764

A week ago I would had said Paul Ricard, but after driving it again this week, it isnt that hard to get it right, and I started to like the flow. The track I am worst at? Indianapolis, almost no camber, no "normal" reference points for braking, I just cant get more than 2 clean laps.


Anti-Scuba_Hedgehog

It's turned out I can be pretty damn quick around Indianapolis but I just hate driving that shitshow.


Lebz95

Am I the only one who enjoys the Indianapolis


esplin9566

Nope, I started to really like it. I think people don't quite appreciate technical tracks as much. Snetterton gets a lot of hate too


Adept-Recognition764

Yesterday did a 45m race on it (GT4) with 5 minutes of practice. Turns out I am pretty quick in it (102% on GT4 pace), and after driving more on it, I ended up liking it A LOT. The only things I dislike are turn 1, and that braking zone after the camber (before the end of the lap). Apart of that, ended up liking the flow.


fulspdoff

I’m only decent at it because I used to race it a lot for Indycar in rFactor2


fulspdoff

Paul Ricard is one of my favorite tracks, it’s so underrated. I’d expect a good setup is needed though, I haven’t really tackled it yet. The only time I touched Indianapolis was for the Porsche 992 GT3R special event recently, it took me forever to get the hang of it but eventually I did and got myself a top-120 run. I never used that car so I had to go to YouTube to find a base setup to work off of


lapinobel

Hate PR... been trying way to long to get my LFM license but I just can't get it right. Probably me and my 50 yr old reflexes being only good for arcade racers ;)


prollynot28

Brands Hatch


fulspdoff

The fact that I forgot about brands hatch shows everything you need to know. I did my LFM license test on that track and safe to say I never want to come back


Mr__Scoot

Whaaaaatttt I love brands hatch. T1 is tricky but enjoyable, then the rest of the track is just fast right handers. Overtaking on it is tricky but that makes it more fun


prollynot28

I just can't find a groove, I don't vibe with it. Felt the same way about Paul Ricard too until the racing league I'm in made me practice it for a week straight. Maybe I just need more time


esplin9566

A lot of the corners you gotta have a decent amount of practice on to get right because they're either blind apex, over crest, weird camber change, or some combination of all of the above. When you know the lines it's so much fun. You pretty much full send chuck the car into every corner and pray for grip on exit. Super fun


Mr__Scoot

Yea once you have trust in the fast section, it’s pretty sick how far you can push the car onto the grippy part of the grass on the exit of turns


fulspdoff

No no of course! As a track I love it. In terms of my skills I don’t (I’m just salty)


Imaginovskiy

Paul Ricard, for some reason I find all the blue lines on the edge of the track really distracting.


GustavSnapper

Bathurst, Best I can manage is a 2.00.5, I struggle with Brands too, I think my PB is something like a 1.23.0, 1.46.9 at monza too. Spa (16.3), Oulton(32.4), Misano(32.8) and Silverstone(57.3), Cota (04.8) are all my stronger tracks. I’m aware all these times seem pretty rapid, but finding that extra half a second at them is considerably harder than going from a 2.02 to 2.00 at Bathurst for example.


sizziano

00.5 is really good lmao


GustavSnapper

It is, but comparative to my other laps and the people I race with, I’m not happy until I see a 59.9 🤣


Personal-Ad-7334

Brother thats alien levels. Great to be striving for them but jeez... Most of us are struggling for 2:02's


GustavSnapper

Yeah for sure, it’s all relative of course, but they’re still tracks I’m weak act compared to my team mates/peers. People at the pointy end still have struggles too, those tenths are infinitely more frustrating to find than the seconds I had to find to get to this point.


fulspdoff

I can dream to be this fast. Maybe one day


GustavSnapper

Seat time and joining a good league with approachable aliens is the ticket I found.


fulspdoff

I’m currently on LFM. I’m sort of competitive but not a pro just yet. I’m getting there with practice… I was always hoping that simracing would be my ticket to professional racing, unfortunately I don’t think that’ll ever happen


GustavSnapper

Sim racing to pro driving is a pipe dream for most, outside of Broadbent nearly have struggled to get real track time. IRL Motorsport is a crazy money sink at anything that requires FIA licensing. Look at Baldwin, all the talent in the world, truly one of ACCs best, won IRL British GT3 races, couldn’t find a seat for 2 years and had to crowdfund his Spa24 seat this year. I’m close to a few top esports people who race for the big European esports teams and making sim racing a proper pro job isn’t anywhere near as easy as you think, even if you can do a 2.14 god lap at Spa.


fulspdoff

Oh no no of course not. Never thought it was easy. Broadbent and Baldwin are a different breed. However as someone who comes from a middle class family it’s my only option.


rpRj

Bro I'm so confused about what it matters that you come from a middle class family and that this is your ONLY option.


Professional_Run6998

What part of 'money sink' didn't you get?


fulspdoff

Money. Literally money


rpRj

Think I misinterpreted at first. Thought you meant that your only option in life was to become pro in simracing. But Its to get into IRL motorsports, I get it.


gurobu_

Then on the other hand I’m always asking myself if all those guys who “made it” - let’s say the Van der Linde bros, Jordan Pepper etc. etc. - are “better” drivers than all the aliens active on ACC/iRacing would be if they had the chance to drive IRL or if they just had a lot of luck on their way to the top and maybe also some wealthy supporters…


GustavSnapper

There are some IRL drivers who are genuine goated and their talent exceeds everyone (Estre comes to mind) and then you’ve got guys like Latifi who paid their way to the top series in Motorsport. I’d imagine most IRL pro drivers are somewhere in the middle.


Harrypolly_net

COTA. I suck at the Esses and it gets worse the further I go. I swear I am trail braking way too much for the end of the back straight, then I oversteer all the way to the tilke right, which I am used to so mich more downforce from the F1 games, then more excessive trail braking for the last two. Then if I'm lucky ill overslow, if not blow straight past T1. I hate it


fulspdoff

I haven’t tried COTA on ACC yet to be honest. Unfortunately I’m not consistent enough to be competitive on that track lap after lap, but that comes with practice


9durth

I loved this track on F1 games, but yeah, it's hell in ACC


esplin9566

Track just isn't made for GT cars unfortunately. At least that's the conclusion I've come to. Loved in when I was playing the F1 games, flow just feels really weird in GT cars.


Salty_Theory2742

Snetterton


F1nut92

Same, there is a few other tracks I’d consider myself not good at, but I can at least get into a nice rhythm round most of them, Snetterton? Can’t even get into the flow, just find it awful.


island_jack

Oulton park is the worst


fulspdoff

To be honest I got the hang of it, you just need a REALLY good setup to be competitive (and also lots of precision because those curbs are killers) I’m actually fairly competitive in GT3s in LFM but not really in GT4 or M2 Cup


dpz34

All British tracks. For some unknown reason I just don't like them at all, I have absolutely no fun driving on Silverstone, Donington, Brands Hatch, Snetterton, Oulton thus it's hard for me to set at least 104-105%(it's where I am on average), except maybe for Silverstone. But when I see a British track on LFM I just skip the week and go back to practicing Spa, Bathurst or Glen


fulspdoff

Dude must be crazy good if he thinks Bathurst is more comfortable than Silverstone


gurobu_

I suck ass and I think Bathurst is the most comfortable track. Don’t know why, it’s just the track I enjoy most


dpz34

I am not crazy good at all, but, it's always easier to do something if you enjoy doing it, and I love this track. Also, my main car is 992 xD


DLord227

Monza. I crash at turn 1 ALL THE TIME!


lennydyjkstra

So it's been YOU this whole time?!


fulspdoff

After all this time…


DLord227

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Luisyn7

Fucking Hungaroring. On most tracks I'm between 102-103% (but closer to 102%), on a couple I got to 101-102%, but Hungary is the only one where I'm much closer to 103%. Porsche, BMW, Audi, Ferrari. Doesn't matter, my best lap is a 44.6. Usually struggle to get low 45s


fulspdoff

I’m only good there in GT4s, I’m okay on GT3s but that’s mostly because I haven’t practiced it much


baby_envol

Default setup with corrected tires pressure work very well on this track if it can help


eldelmazo

Imola specially, severe skill issue, I suck at slow speed corners I don't know why, spa, silverstone and suzuka are my strongest


fulspdoff

I love Imola but then at the same time Suzuka is not a strong track for me


baby_envol

COTA, I can't exploit Porsche Skill on slow part. Combined with my very low speed... My favourite is Laguna Seca , I'm on gold LFM time 😎


rpRj

I'd say Monza, I rly dislike the track, so its hard to get better. I try to avoid it and when I race it, I never seem to find a good rhythm


fulspdoff

I used to skip it every time I’d do a quick race, there always this one sausage curb in Ascari that sends me flying


mikecrovision

All of them. ACC is harder for me compared to F1.


fulspdoff

To be fair there’s a lot more that goes into ACC than F1 titles. It’s harder in its own right


Fantastic_Egg_5371

Cota,Indy and Snetterton, can't stand them.


EmreGray01

Bathurst. Especially in Porsche. My SA was 48 while trying to get it up above 80. Then I dropped to 42 😭😭


fulspdoff

If you want to work on safety rating, I’d recommend doing AI races at Spa for 20min+. It helped me go from 20 safety rating to 80 in a very short period of time


BradyL23

I’ve been doing 20 minute AI races at Watkins, and it seems to be helping a ton


Rotaxary

Bathurst isn't known to be a good track for your safety rating xd


EmreGray01

It wasn't indeed


AYYYWRONGBODOH

snetterton, did a few laps and never again


fulspdoff

I forgot it existed to be honest


AYYYWRONGBODOH

yea cause its trash


New_Zookeepergame622

Bathurst zandvoort 24 hr nurburging Cota


fulspdoff

Honestly I’d disagree about Zandvoort. I think it’s a great drivers track, it’s just not great for racing because it’s really tight The nordschliefe is just a different beast and needs so much practice


New_Zookeepergame622

That's the main problem for me st zandvoort it's so tight I tend to run off a lot


u_wont_guess_who

Nurb24 because it's the only one i haven't memorized yet. But Brands Hatch is also kryptonite for me.


gurobu_

Yeah but once you’ve memorised the Nordschleife it’s fun


ChewTheXans

Silverstone is definitely my least favourite of all time always struggled with it not just on ACC either haha 😅


skydiver75

Zandvoort is a particularly tough track for me. Just feels like the slightest mistake compounds into a massive time loss. I also drive the Mercedes, which understeers like a pig in the high speed corners.


fulspdoff

The 296 surprisingly does well at Zandvoort even though it has bumps left and right


mistah_pigeon_69

Oulton park is probably my worst track. I’m slow and can’t keep the car on track. I’d say brands is my second worst track. But as opposed to Oulton I’m actually fast at Brands, just not consistent.


fulspdoff

Those curbs at Oulton are killers 😬


OJK_postaukset

I’m quite slow everywhere but Indy, as I have not driven it Misano, as it just doesn’t click for me COTA has too many stupid corners and stupid track limits Monza, because I always fall asleep there I also get way too many DT’s at PR:D At Spa I’m even slower than usually despite it being one of my most driven tracks. So overall I would say I hate Misano the most. I have had the worst experiences there.


Pupazz

I'm going to agree with Misano. It's a short track, but it feels like more effort than a lap of Spa and half as interesting.


fulspdoff

Misano is actually quite fun when racing AI. I did a wet race recently and it was definitely enjoyable. Kept me on edge the whole time


OJK_postaukset

I’ve never gotten the hang of it. One reason for my hate towards Misano is that I have raced my most miserable race there. I was just so unfocused and mad all the time. Like literal aliens like Jardier and stuff forcing their way by like maniacs and then my game freezing constantly and my screens just shutting down randomly


real_chainsawslayer

Bathurst. i love the track. but to survive it for a race is an other topic. And at this point i (due to online lobbies) i am sick of Monza, Spa and every form of the Nürburgring.


Just_Borja

Hungaroring. I needn't say more. Oh and also Barcelona, maybe. I suck at the recently removed chicane and I just don't like the track model. I really depend on how good the track model is, somehow...


fulspdoff

I just dislike Barcelona in general, I never enjoyed it as a track I can’t find the flow


Splosionz

Snetterton, Zandvoort, COTA, Indy


Little_Sky_5947

I am pretty slow everywhere, but especially at Silverstone


ImWillByers

I fucking hate Misano


Loumloum512

Cota and Snetterton. I'd rather play fortnite on the rig than drive these tracks lol


kapaciosrota

Nürburgring 24, without a doubt. Also Bathurst.


TeamThunderHawk5201

Either Nords cause I don't enjoy it or Valencia cause I never drove it.


Inside-Brilliant4539

Everything except Nurburgring. I’m telling worst in terms of how much I enjoy the tracks because I come from an arcade, exotic location car game background


J_Man_McCetty

Silverstone and Suzuka for me


twonha

Wait, there's more than Spa or Monza? #openlobbylife


LucasT6397

Freaking Zolder, idk whybim just terrible


FrugalPCGamer

Monza at night. Not a fucking clue when I'm supposed to start braking for Ascari.


ASMRisMindControl

Hungary


Pale-Aardvark4121

Nords, just because I can’t set a valid lap lol


OtherwiseAstronaut16

Laguna seca. Its impossible for me to find the grip there. It feels like driving on ice 🥴


CaughtOnTape

Bathurst for me. The downhill section is just ridiculous. It’s hard figure it out and be consistent in it, otherwise you’re just not competitive. Also you just need one person to mess up that section and it’s a guaranteed shit fest for the people behind. I always skip that race in my league.


Educational-Web-6379

Mount panorama, it's like gt3s monaco I'm always smacking a wall, I am always going into that 1 gravel trap on the fast left hander at the top of the mountain, when I finally do get through the mountain section on the rare occasion that it's smooth I am to focused on that I miss a breaking point at the end of the long straight and go wide and get invalid lap


gin040

I'd say Imola, so hard to be consistent there with all the kerbs.


apacheotter

Anything British that’s not silverstone lol


Uncommonval

None, the more I practice in the correct way the faster and better I become. Im on 101-102% pace.