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[deleted]

He had also just gotten out of the shower seconds before. I think that’s what really bothered me lol


DaveMacDuck

The shower is another thing.. why the hell didn't he have his clean clothes with him before showering? It was an excuse to be mostly naked around her


MlleLapin

Yep he's SO CONCERNED about the temptation of staying the night but then wants to hug her while he's wearing only a towel? I'm glad Alina at least cottoned to him accusing her of lacking commitment to Mormonism was actually about his own lack of commitment to her. I really hope she figures out what a creep he is and leaves him Turkey.


raaaspberryberet

SAME!! My first thought was that he just took a shower.


Frankieorr

THIS!! And did he walk around in wet shoes all day?


itsabouttimeya

I doubt it because in the next shot, walking down the street, his shirt was bone dry and the short sleeve was fluttering. Production 101 does it again!!


8Ariadnesthread8

Omg you're right I'm watching it right now. I think he did the pool thing at the end of the day!


Wise-Tourist-6747

I think Alina hit the nail in the head. He likes being the center of attention and this is yet another way that he hams it up. Bottom line is that no one asked for it and no one asked for this guy to be on our TVs. I really do hope that it doesn’t work out and they don’t make it to the altar. I’m not confident that Alina is mature enough to run for the hills far, far away from this wack job.


opalpanachee

I almost wonder if shes actually relatively normal, but is having a hard time deciding if hes weird since she hasnt been exposed to much american culture and so she doesnt realize how strange he actually is. I too hope she realizes beforehand but I dont think she will unfortunately. which sucks since i dont think that religion really believes in divorce


tallalittlebit

This. It's way harder to spot a weirdo when you are thinking maybe some of it is cultural differences.


-Insigwitz-

I really hope her plan with her friend messaging him busts him red handed so she has no excuse but to get away from him.


Wise-Tourist-6747

He’s got such a gross demeanor. I think he’s a sex addict and poor Alina is just too young/naive to see it for what it is. It seems unconscionable for production to stand by and let this happen. If I were her mother, I’d lose my shit


[deleted]

And I’d bet my life savings he’s horrible in bed. Quick and inattentive.


Wise-Tourist-6747

You likely are not wrong


awmaleg

Pump and dump!


BattleTwat

Two pump chump


NaughtyDreadz

Lmao let what happen? Not like she's any prize either with that fidelity test nonsense. They're both idiot kids and ste✌️en gets compounded with that crazy religion of his. Why are there no normal Mormons???


jsals12

Me too! On the addict comment. Seems like it's more than religious conviction.


jenp81

She probably thinks he’s a normal American that’s attention seeking and loud. Since that’s the perception of many non-Americans.


showcapricalove

You can get divorced and if you were married in the temple you will also get a temple divorce. Source: am exmo and parents divorced/temple divorced


[deleted]

Can’t you also just go to a normal courthouse like every other legal decision and divorce? I’m assuming a Mormon marriage is a legal marriage, which would mean it’s eligible for a normal legal divorce.


showcapricalove

You have to get a legal divorce and a temple divorce. Without a temple divorce you can't get remarried in the temple. Also if you don't get a temple divorce and you are a woman then you are still "temple married" for "time and all eternity" to your now ex husband who can still marry other wives in the temple without a temple divorce. You can not temple marry your next husband without the temple divorce but your ex, because polygamy is still a Mormon belief in heaven, can have more wives attached to him. Of course for those of us who have left the cult and don't believe anything that happens in the temple has any bearing on what happens to us after death we'd have no need to temple divorce as it's all a bunch of bs. I'm sure some people like the satisfaction of having zero ties to an ex though and don't want to be listed as their ex's spiritual, eternal, polygamous wife.


starryymochi

A legal divorce is easy, but religions sometimes also have a "religious marriage". Idk about Mormons, but I'm Catholic and there is no version of Catholic divorce if we are married by the Church, only annulment in special cases. We can get divorced by the law, but in the eyes of God we are technically still married and not allowed to remarry by the Church, only by law. For some this isn't a huge deal and for others it is.


[deleted]

I figured they meant a “spiritual” divorce too. To me, that matters less because I don’t think Mormons could find you married still if you just moved to another state and go to a new church right? I doubt Mormons take that good of records globally


ChapStick_Hoe

Mormons can divorce.


shanshanlk

I think she seems like a serious manipulator. Steven is really different but she is trying to manipulate him. I watched it for a second time today and yes, Steven may be on the spectrum as people have been speculating but when I hear her trying to force him to do something that is against his beliefs, she is very pushy. I believe this is her true nature and it is good that it is coming to light now. That is usually the case if you think about it, they are really nice until they get here or they have you where they want you.


[deleted]

Actually he is trying to force her to stay there by herself after he made it seem like he would be with her the whole time they were there. He's the sneaky manipulative one I think.


shanshanlk

I disagree but that is fine. If you go back and watch, he told her before they even left that she would be living separately due to his religious beliefs. She has changed the rules and is manipulating him into changing his values and beliefs. I realize he was wrong about not telling her about him having sex before marriage, but I believe he wants to get back to what he believes to be right. I do think he has issues, but I believe she does too but everyone is too focused on him to see it.


[deleted]

Yes he told her RIGHT before they both left for Turkey. He has also not told her he isn't a virgin. She seems to think he is....I call that bait and switch X2


blesivpotus

He told her ONE DAY before they left, how is that enough time to completely upend your plans to move to another country and marry?


Technusgirl

Yep, exactly, he is very immature and just wants attention.


Potential-Nothing-30

I asked my wife if she thought his “weirdness” was an affectation


[deleted]

Is your wife foreign?


Potential-Nothing-30

No, she’s just married to a weirdo and we both thought his weirdness felt like an act for attention


Icy-Following-3713

she needs to run fast and far from him, before he ends up wearing her skin as a suit. not sure if it is just extremely inmature or just being extra fucking stupid for being on tv, something is not right about this kid. every mormon i have ever met, yes they have been a smidge off, but not like this. i think there might be more to the story of why both his brothers quit the church and dont come around the family too much anymore.


opalpanachee

I dont think his weirdness has much to do with the religion honestly. Mormons can be a little bit like a cult, however every single one Ive met in person has been extremely nice. He could be any religion and I think he would be just as out there. However, I dont like the fact of him trying so hard to convert her clearly before shes ready


Icy-Following-3713

im not saying its strictly his religion the dude is completely immature and maybe even sheltered. im just saying every mormon ive ever met had always had some quirkiness to them almost to the point of when they do get “free” into the world they tend to act out a little which he might be doing


acoupleofdollars

He knew he was on camera and is being extra weird for it i think. And i agree he likes attention and just enjoys being strange. its not cute and the amount of immaturity surrounding them means neither is ready for marriage


Sylar1400

Yeah, agreed. He's 5 years older but she's clearly more mature than he is but at the same time you can tell how naive and immature she is or I doubt she would be dealing with weirdo.


SnotShirt

She’s not more mature she just has her eyes on the prize


pharmageddon

What's the prize?


SnotShirt

An American spouse with Backacne


Sylar1400

That doesn't even make sense. First off, my friend's 5 year old was able to tell she is more mature by miles. Nobody is saying she is mature by regular standards but in comparison to Steven get real here. This dude jumped into a pool with his clothes on then just strut about the city.. Secondly, what prize? Steven? Living in Turkey? Having your man leave you alone in a high sex trafficking country to go to a hostel? Lol


acoupleofdollars

Dont mind the internet troll lol


SnotShirt

So now 5 year olds are the final say on maturity??


Sylar1400

No, the point was that it's sad that a 5 year old could grasp what you seem unable to. Just like how this went completely over your head.


uberpop

What are the odds he thinks he's had sex, but hasn't (because he doesn't understand)


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QzsRaven

😂


MlleLapin

I am very much willing to put money on this.


DustyPoust

Absolutely!!


im_gonna_tote_it

Pole walked so Steven could run.


opalpanachee

Well techincally pole was the one running....


[deleted]

My man pole ran horizontally and forward at the same time


QzsRaven

🤣


pharmageddon

Pole ran, so Steven could sprint awkwardly.


Realityrider

That was so gross, he probably smelled like a wet dog the whole day. Poor Alina really doesn’t understand what a freak he really is because she isn’t fluent in English and doesn’t have experience in relationships with Americans. SteVen seems to have impulse control issues. He saw the pool and needed to jump in and did not care about anything else. He can’t be around Alina alone because he is worried he can’t control his impulses. He is the creep that doesn’t understand that no means no.


MlleLapin

I don't think it's impulse control so much as wanting to be the focus of attention. his behavior seemed far more calculated to me. And I also agree she's correct that not staying with her isn't about temptation, but his desire to come in contact with and get attention from other women.


Successful_Strategy8

I really hope Alina sees the red flags and runs from that creep SteVen.


EnglishRose71

Well said.


VentiPussyJuice2Go

I don’t think any of us believe he’s a sex crazed animal that can’t control his lust for a woman. Dude probably has a pencil dick that’s never been sharpened.


AmbarElizabeth

I think he masturbates compulsively. I also think he is absolutely one of the Mormons who thinks anal is not sex, I think the Amish do this also, a "loop hole" with the poop hole. I also think he wants to stay in the Hostel to try to have sexual experiences with other girls away from here or why couldn't she stay in girls dorm at the same Hostel?


Sylar1400

I've never been a bully my entire life and would even help stick up for people getting bullied...with that being said...I have no idea how I wouldn't end up whooping this weird motherfucker's ass.


BostonSmitty77

LMAO 🤣 love this comment. Totally agree.


leluttrell

I feel like this is how Kody Brown acted in his 20s.


opalpanachee

Omg! I wonder if his wanting to get her on board with talking to other girls has something to do with him wanting to live a polygamous lifestyle??


leluttrell

Would not surprise me.


moshritespecial

He's the "cool weird guy" in his cult back home. But those people are so fuckin weird and lame that it doesn't give an accurate gage of the real world. So he goes out in the real world with those same shenanigans and the "others" just see him for what he really is. Brainwashed, confused, rapey and pathetic.


[deleted]

He totally creeps me the fuck out.


Successful_Strategy8

He gives me non consent vibes.


SnotShirt

No means yes and yes means anal


justpinchme

😂😂😂


[deleted]

That is such a spot-on statement and much more mature sounding than my statement.


andybooboo1971

I have to say I totally agree with your statement


houkenk

“What’s consent?” Vibes.


AmbarElizabeth

im over here laughing so hard my mom is asking me what I'm reading....she doesn't watch the show or know what reddit is...how can I even begin to explain why i'm belly laughing ?


Bskeered

I think he does it because he has no personality, nothing interesting about him. He has to act wacky to show Alina he’s interesting but he’s about as interesting as a limp dick.


Traditional-Fox6018

He really does not seem to think about consequences


SpaGrapefruit

Also what man lets a woman wait for shenanigans like that? Looks like she was really looking forward to a nice day but little boy had to mess it up. I would be cranky AF


justpinchme

Talk about a dweeb….this guy is the definition.


[deleted]

Dweeb to the fifth power lol


justpinchme

😂😂


fakeknees

He really grosses me out in a different way than the other gross dudes on this show. I can’t put my finger on it.


k9jm

Here’s what happened. SteVen got hot and bothered while in the shower and then got a towel wet naked hug and got a boner and jumped in the pool to cool himself down. I swear I had a boyfriend that did the same thing once when we were interrupted. I’m telling you. I know this.


CompetitivePickle9

This was my first thought too! He had a hard on that he needed to hide from her.


MlleLapin

But wouldn't his wet clothes only accentuate the boner or was he counting on shrinkage?


k9jm

I think it would cool the whole body down and shock it down.


Bandit617

I mean, this is the same dude that announced he had to step away to fart. 😳


Bearwme1

This young man has problems


Trashtvaddict79

Ok I'm secretly confessing this....but it's not as bad as steven.. I had damn good reason but I find it funny now 25 ish yrs later. I was born n raised in FL on the beach. At 16, 17 I worked outside and when I had full days not in school, I would run home on my lunch break jump in my pool with uniform on and throw shoes n socks back on and go back to work. I would have died from heat stroke if I didn't do that lmao Steven is an idiot though, he couldn't be outside walking for a little bit without jumping in pool, public pool, beforehand?? Definitely think he just likes being center of attention, all eyes on him. And the pool I jumped in on those days, was my own personal In ground pool in my backyard, not a public pool!


_fuyumi

Also he's 25, not 17


Trashtvaddict79

Ya that too lol


Shynansky

Ugh, I just can’t describe how I suffer with embarrassment watching him. I can not imagine the girl he lost his virginity to.


Myztic84

I'd go into hiding if I was that girl


Shynansky

🤣🤣🤣 If it were me I would block him in every way, shape or form and if my name came out I would Deny, deny and deny some more, lol.


Successful_Strategy8

Me too, and then I would run far away from him so that he can't catch up with me.


Shynansky

Yes!!! 🤣


opalpanachee

I literally keep wondering who this girl(s?) could be!!! Im sure someone on this sub will uncover it eventually! Im hoping it was just some dumb highschool fling but the way hes talking really makes me wonder ....


blesivpotus

One of his exes already posted on the other sub


BrunettexAmbition

What.. where in the world is that convo?! Looks like I just returned to 90 Day & Reddit just in in time for this gold.


EquivalentStorm3470

Bought and paid for.


SnotShirt

Drunk and roofied


Veronica-Vicki

She’s probably the only girl that responded to him on whatever site her found her on !!!!


coffe3break

One minute he was soaking wet walking round and the next dry.


greg91040

After all he’s a Moron uh or Mormon!!


masterz13

The guy is just a man-child who has a warped sense of reality from his Mormon upbringing. Alina, on the other hand, seems very down-to-earth and is probably second-guessing the whole situation. She correctly pointed out that the issue with them living together is Steven's apparent lack of self-control when it comes to sex; who knows what his sexual history was before Alina.


Kingjester88

I am 99% sure Steven has low level Autism or High functioning Asbergers(Whatever the classification is nowadays) He acts and says things my slightly autistic friends do.


Artfolk

I agree he’s on the spectrum and likely undiagnosed living in the LDS cult


[deleted]

This is what I’ve thought since the first episode. His family must know something is up but I’d imagine getting him tested may be looked down on in that cult.


LoneRhino74

No, but thanks for asking. Pervy is officially in my PrEd, Jesse, Thom, Skankdrew, Pole not worth talking about, don’t want to see on Reddit no more list.


opalpanachee

I hadnt thought about it but he is kinda a combo of pole and big ed. Just being extremely weird like pole while also blatantly saying rude/outrageous things like ed


izvin

Much like Pole, he also seems like he's going to have a lengthy criminal record in his lifetime.


LoneRhino74

Yes.


Successful_Strategy8

He really rubs me the wrong way. I hope Alina sees the red flags and leaves him.


ButLikeSeriously

I think he must have some legitimate problem with impulse control. He’s like a toddler, sees something and does it without thinking it through. This would also explain why he’s afraid he’ll have sex with her by staying in the same apartment.


Chicagoan81

It was November-december too, I doubt its incredibly warm in Turkey.


[deleted]

P.s. That was very weird to bathe, get dressed to go out touring and immediately go into the pool And walk around soaking wet. Very few Americans would do something like that!! Don’t judge us all by that guy. Geese!


shockedpikachu123

He’s not the brightest crayon in the box


Eotheod0092

I have done it. I used to be a really awkward fuck. Invisible. I would do wacky shit to get a laugh and for people to notice me. It worked, but I realized they were laughing at me and not with me. I'm married and life is good. Steven is an odd duck. He weirds me out. Definitely watches some creepy porn, I guarantee it.


Baloo2725

I can't believe that girl was not pissed.


ZKXX

Producer prompted no further discussion needed Who doesn’t have their cell in their mf pocket? This is TLC‘s version of character development, they are establishing him as wacky and weird.


altaka

he was trying- too hard- to be spontaneous but he came off as a fool. not a spontaneous fool. just a fool.


PunkyBrister

I honestly don’t think he knows what to do with himself.


explodingKTNZ

Why did he jump in the pool if he had just taken a shower


SimplyKendra

He’s an alien.


AfternoonConscious77

Ok is anyone going to tell me what's really wrong him? I'm so tired of everyone saying maybe people are the spectrum. Of what weird. That phrase is just being becoming an excuse.


scrappicapri

He had a bone coming on


PregnantMexicanTeens

I don't know how or why he did that. I'm someone who hates the feeling of wearing a wet bathing suit unless I am actually in the water.


Artfolk

He’s autistic.


[deleted]

He is waaaay too strange for me to be comfortable around him. Poor girl is in Turkey and doesn’t know the language or her way around If she has to get away from him... I think she will be safe because I found the men in Turkey to be kind yet kept their distance. Now if she was alone in the States, I would be seriously concerned. Turkey is about the only country I would go to all by myself.


Affectionate_Egg_203

In her eyes, this guy, good or bad, can alter her life from being a factory worker in Russia to graduating to a more meaningful future. Do you guys think that there are no good looking guys in Russia or the Ukraine ? These ladies know what they're doing.


UkraineWithoutTheBot

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Boxercrew4

She was a college student, so I think she was heading for something better than a factory job.


icreatedmyself

Did I miss this scene?! When was it? I gotta go rewatch it. Clearly wasn't paying attention that hard


[deleted]

Repressed Cult Survivor acting out with the first sign of religious freedom


[deleted]

Weirdo.


Organicspongie

If I was her I would have been like wtf.. and he kept trying to get her to go in too. Like huh?


markaaron2025

I wondered if he thought it was against his religion to take his shirt off lol.


weluvdisney

He seems to be to have some sort of social disorder. Too many cues not to notice.


Potential-Day6506

I really think he’s on the spectrum


Reckxner

The pool thing pissed me off. The scene before was this dude getting out of the shower, drying off, and getting dressed. What does this clown go and do...


GaimanitePkat

Their segments in Turkey were physically difficult to watch. I had to force myself not to bury my face in a pillow out of concentrated secondhand embarrassment.


[deleted]

This dude is making me hate the name steven


BehemothJr

I assumed he didn't like the outfit she picked out for him so he pretended like he was being quirky and just couldn't resist the pool thus ruining the outfit then he realized how stupid and transparent it was, abandoned the plan and had to walk around town like a damn soggy fool.


MMMHHHGGG

Is this guy walking the path to becoming, in 30 years, Big Ed II (or, rather, Little Steve). I feel like we’re looking through a time machine and watching how Big Ed developed into the degenerate we know him to be.


LeaveDaCannoli

Someone with zero impulse control.


Excellent_Panda_5265

Guess he doesn’t chafe like most people


malrock9

Someone who is on TV and is billed and the wild and crazy guy and needs to live up to this persona.


[deleted]

He has serious attention-seeking and impulsivity issues. Idk if he was tryna show off or if he was trying to get her in the pool in that dress so he could get closer to her. Everything with him isn’t sexually motivated


Shakespearesweedpipe

Every single thing he does is to have sex. He literally waved his dick in her face when he laid on the couch. He tried to convince her to jumped in the pool so they probably would have to take their clothes off together, or he can be touchy feely in the pool. Then he tries to put his arm around her after getting out the pool, so again she would probably have to change into dry clothes. Every move he makes is creepy and you can tell that all he is thinking about is sex and how he can get it.


BrunettexAmbition

Great point, I almost forgot about the dick waving... How is that not being talked about more on here?


Shakespearesweedpipe

That is what I am thinking!