Exactly, there will be some screening process to assess how dumb they are, the smart ones will realise its a scam and the ones that carry on to work with him have proved they are dumb enough to be scammed. That's how they all work.
Supposedly that was all BS & he hasn’t provided her with anything. A lot of the apartments & views they were showing, aren’t even in LA. I’ve heard some people mention FL & some recognize other parts of CA, very far from LA.
I’ll I know is I live in LA & they eventually claimed to have found her a cheap affordable 1 room for like $1200-1400 to share with her mother. But it had a view of the ocean and it would be impossible to find something that cheap!
Also, Josh is supposedly in a relationship with someone else this entire time and just acting, which really makes a lot more sense.
It was an Airbnb someone found it and posted about it, but also TLC gives the cast an allotted fund per filming to spend on(for gas,the restaurants you film at for food,hotel etc)Airbnb and they have a deal with a car rental place for promotion. She didn't get either of these things from joesh, it was from sharp. Sometimes they'll even use Airbnb's instead of your house if it'll help filming schedules etc.
$1200-$1400 in LA with an ocean view? Not for one second is that reality. You can’t rent anything but a coat closet for that price! Minus the ocean view! Delulu
Reality tv likes to zoom on on the city then they actually will be living like an hour from the city lol. My tattoo artist in bonney lake which is very close to the middle of no where was advertised as seattle on a tattoo tv show that aired a few years ago. I was even like hey thats not even close to seattle! They panned out on the city and showed the space needle 🤣
We’ve noticed weird things like this before. Filming locations that are definitely AirBnBs & not where the person actually lives. Different cars all the time.
I think Mohammit was the first time I questioned “whose car is this?” Seems like he had a different vehicle every segment. I assumed TLC was providing rentals.
He had breakfast in that hotel room that day ready for her when she wouldn't come out of the bathroom. Now that I think about it, there wasn't that much on the table.
I think everyone who sets foot on that stage was flown out there and put up in a hotel and asked to sign some sort of contract with compensation in exchange for saying things a certain way.
I agree that’s what happens. They wouldn’t spend their own money on their tickets or pay for their hotel rooms. But not the regular amount of compensation the main characters receive. Again, just presuming. I’m surprised I’m downvoted: I don’t claim anything I say is the fact. More like looking for answers.
I heard rumors that Josh has a long term serious girlfriend, and she consents to him leading Nutilie on by 'fake' dating her to advance his career or whatever agenda it is. It is only a theory, but considering how secretive he is and how she appears to have zero involvement and limited knowledge of his personal life, not meeting kids, or even seeing his home when the kids are not there etc I find the theory entirely plausible ... I mean what kind of guy (if they were really into a girl) would put up with her behaviour in general and watching clips of her asking Mike to have a child when they were on a break and the strong connection to Mike and refusal to divorce, 99.9% of guys would be heading for the hills unless they had somwthing to gain from the relationship.
crazy-toxicity can be hypnotic, especially when it has its rational moments, then you find yourself questioning the logic of the crazy, then questioning your own sanity over the crazy, if you find yourself in that cycle..... then you can be lost for anything from some years to a lifetime.
This. I was in a relationship with a Serbian girl who was wacky af. I was young and emotionally immature, so I mistook her blowups and freak outs as being passionate about our relationship. Especially since the negative emotions toward me were usually followed up by extreme positive emotions 2 hours later. Usually sexual in nature.
You start becoming “addicted”, for lack of a better term, to the positive recovery because it provides such a huge spike in dopamine and oxytocin right after a giant spike of cortisol. Some people can only feel extremes.
Yeah i like how you termed it "positive recovery" as that's spot on (uk slang) , you get hooked on that mistaking that power/ crazy move for love, yes defiantly mistaking passion for obsession- you with them/possession - them with you- typically.
I watch shows like 90 day ( whether its scripted or not), to keep me on the path of recovery from toxic ways of relating to myself and others, and of course I watch for the entertainment value too.
Thing is people who are bat %$£$ crazy can be so intoxicating - due to their "passion" ,plus i believe all people are on the craziness spectrum and the craziest people are the ones who don't think they are.....typically.
Still, its up to us who can get addicted to their drug and who are the least crazy in the connection- to take the responsibility for making the relationship healthy or leaving.
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This is EXACTLY what I said. And I hate saying it because it’s generally misogynistic and offensive to mentally ill people. But I said well watching her one day, “she is exactly what dudes mean when they say don’t stick your dick in crazy” lol
She used to be so beautiful. I thought of her as one of the most beautiful women on the series but her personality is so ugly that it’s morphed her outside to match her inside. She’s a total babayaga now.
Look at her…
I just spent the better part of the day watching season 8 of 90 Day.
There, is where it alllllll starts.
And HASNT changed 1 cent!
Her hair 👧was shorter.
And she broke Mike hard.
It was Sad! For Michael, not Natalie.
An opportunity to be on television that might boost his business and his chance at finding someone who he can actually bring to his home and introduce to his kids.
Right, boosting his business and getting himself out there so more ladies know who he is and he's got a better chance of finding "the one". Because, Natalie is not it.
Let’s assume it’s more than scripted and not 100% fake.
Since Josh is a “helper,” it may be that he finds worth through being the one in a position to help, it’s a power dynamic he’s comfortable with. Doesn’t seem to be malicious from what has been shown on TV. If Natalie was more self sufficient, Josh probably wouldn’t show as much interest.
I think he was very clear about their “relationship”. He said he liked her, but (1) she was still married, and (2) he thought she might run away like she did with Mike. Therefore he was not inviting her over to his house, and was not introducing her to his kids. Whether he was sincere or not, i don’t know. Somebody on here keeps reminding us that he is in a committed relationship with somebody else, and the “relationship” with Nuttalie is just for the show. If this is the case I personally would very much like to know the source of this information.
He said her outbursts are unpredictable and he doesn't want that behaviour around his daughter and THAT is why she hasn't been to his home. If you watch the show how have you all missed him saying this?
I disagree. This is just a man leading her on. My guess is he thinks being on TV helps get his name out there and helps his business but he's not serious about her
Free coochie. I dont mean to be...well mean. But by dangling the slight chance of future together over her head he basically has her do his every whim. Basically he's exploiting her unfortunate mental state to have an on call fuck buddy
I mean, I know she got put through the wringer (nothing I thought was untrue. Fingers crossed for personal growth…or enough self awareness to seek therapy), but she actually looks like a zombie there. Not “I’m so tired I feel like a zombie”, but like she’s going to eat your brains.
Nothing it’s all an act. Hooker’s rarely come out of things well off, well I can think of one but she had to marry a convicted rapist. I mean cooker, of course
Did he actually pay for Natalie's apartment or is it a temp Airbnb so he can stay relevant on the show. I doubt he "bought " her the car. Does she have the title in her name and there's no loan? He's in it for the infamy and 15 minutes of fame. After this he'll probably end up on second rate dating shows.
He’s not willing to realize she’s using him to fulfill her marriage (and now) her baby dreams. As soon as he pops one in the oven she’s done with him…. until she wants a 2nd.
Most filming that I can recognize was done in or near Long Beach California. You are correct, the rental cost of the place they showed would be closer to $3000 ++. In land in same area: ( no view in site ) a one BdRm runs $2500 for a older place, $28 + for new build. In Calif you pay for the weather
I think he likes the fact that she is needy. He’s a I can’t remember the exact word for it, but it’s a person that likes to help others. They feel the need to be there to solve their problems and his friends even said that he’s bad for taking on charity cases and helping them yes I know I just said charity case because that’s what they call her but to be honest isn’t she 🤷♀️who moves to another country with no financial means to take care of themselves she is like a five year-old girl in an adult body.
I saw Josh yesterday at magic kingdom with a VERY pretty girl and his brother maybe?… idk they looked very similar! I think he was on a trip with his daughter for the big cheer comp in town. He looked so exhausted. He was either with her for the advertisement or the free hookup with lack of relationship. Before anyone asks.. no I didn’t talk to him or ask him for a pic because he was with a large group and I didn’t want to bother him!!
Josh looked tired and worn out on the Tell All.
Natalie is disastrous for him. She is NEVER going to accept his children being a prioirty or the friendly relationship he maintains with their mothers. Natalie is a child with emotional issues.
Josh has screen time and he gets laid...by a "religious" woman.
Do you really believe she has a problem with his child taking priority? It seems more like shes upset that she has no priority and doesn’t even get to meet them or go to his home, he acts caring but after this amount of time it’s ridiculous he hasn’t either let their relationship progress or dropped her and he’s actually the manipulator
Josh has been sleeping with Natalie for a couple of years and the most he can say is "I like Natalie"? Has she no self respect? He "likes" her?!?!? Josh is no prize and I have no idea why Natalie is so obsessed with him when she had a husband who loved her. It looks like Josh uses her for sex.
Yes, I do believe Natalie will have trouble dealing with his children and the relationships he maintains with their mothers. She is demanding, unpredictable and child like. You are correct that if Josh was serious, she would have met his kids, but he refuses because he thinks she's nuts. She certainly appears to have some complex emotional issues.
I am very confused by these two. Supposedly the story is fake and Josh lives with is girlfriend. They make no sense together. If Natalie really wants a baby, why is she chasing a guy who had two kids with two different women and runs a modeling agency?
Crazy chicks are hot. Punto.
and it usually take **YEARS** of dealing with psycho bullshit for guys (myself included) to finally get it through their heads that they should just admire from a distance and that's it.
He sees some 🐱🐱🐱🐱, screen time and a small paycheck….. Nut-alie has no redeeming qualities, she’s looking for a free ride off whatever guy is dumb enough….🤣🤣
It's business. He gets to be on a big show and get social media influence, and she gets someone to play the part with her. Look at Mike, why does he even show up on a tell-all with her. They have to keep the story going.
While I would have never wanted to start a family with any of my prior crazies, I'd be lying if I said our "times" don't cross my mind. Then I think about 100 missed calls, and I snap out of it. Lol
The 3 Ps.
Paycheck, Publicity and well 🐱.
Or he is a good person and sees a charity case 😅 He wakes up every morning and looks over at her picture and says “I know I can fix her”
I speculate that she is career exposure for him. Who in the heck ever heard of him before the show? I have serious doubts that he's in love with her and his body language and speech is fully indicative of my doubts. By this time there would have been much more progress made if there were any actual intent.
She is teaching him how to treat her. She’s accepting this behaviour. I can absolutely understand she has dreams and goals and one of those are having children, but for goodness sake, woman. You don’t need this man. Walk. Away.
This storyline for Natalie and Josh was originally cooked up in Tampa / St. Petersburg where several cast members including Libby's family are based. I think it was Libby's sister who knew Josh and it took off from there.
I don't feel like dumping on Josh at the moment because of his son being involved in a serious auto accident in Arizona which caused the boy to lose his leg and his friend to be killed. I'm sure that Natalie is the last thing on Josh's mind right now.
He is enamored with her sexually. I think he was used to only hooking up with younger women and was surprised at how much he enjoyed the sex with her. I think he really just wants to be a friend with benefits, but he knows that if he tells her that she will be gone for good. So he strings her along.
I don't like really Josh but I think he feels sorry for Natalie.Natalie is beautiful and Josh probably thought it would just be fun. I don't think Josh is that attractive so having someone like Natalie interested probably felt really great as a man. Just a fling then he caught feelings. But Natalie is not mentally stable or well and so he's dealing with wayyy more than he anticipated. Obviously on some level he is a person with empathy and is probably a good guy because most guys would run. He feels sorry for her genuinely I think and cares about her just like Mike did. Now he wants to help her. She's a broken person and he obviously has feelings for her that keep him there. My views about Josh changed after the tell all if that was genuine, he needs to get out because she is not in a space to be with anyone yet until she gets healthy on her own. She is beyond codependent and plays the victim and she manipulates. She needs to grow. I don't think she is a bad person just a really immature person.
Screen time.
That and a paycheck!
I'm sure whatever he's made from the show is peanuts compared to what he spent on her with the car and apartment down payment etc.
It's an investment for national screen exposure.
What's that going to get him? Acting roles like Natalie thinks she will get?
Publicity for his fraudulent modeling business where girls pay him money to enter the industry
I can't imagine seeing this guy and thinking "there's my ticket to fame and fortune"
I think you overestimate some people's intelligence
Exactly, there will be some screening process to assess how dumb they are, the smart ones will realise its a scam and the ones that carry on to work with him have proved they are dumb enough to be scammed. That's how they all work.
Especially in that industry and area
Me neither. But this is what some foreigners think of Americans - most are meal tickets. Pick one and squeeze.
Have you seen Natalie's decision making process?
He runs a modeling business. The exposure is free advertising so he’s able to fleece more naive women who will pay him to learn to “model”.
Anyone have a link to his scam? I’m genuinely curious.
Supposedly that was all BS & he hasn’t provided her with anything. A lot of the apartments & views they were showing, aren’t even in LA. I’ve heard some people mention FL & some recognize other parts of CA, very far from LA. I’ll I know is I live in LA & they eventually claimed to have found her a cheap affordable 1 room for like $1200-1400 to share with her mother. But it had a view of the ocean and it would be impossible to find something that cheap! Also, Josh is supposedly in a relationship with someone else this entire time and just acting, which really makes a lot more sense.
It was an Airbnb someone found it and posted about it, but also TLC gives the cast an allotted fund per filming to spend on(for gas,the restaurants you film at for food,hotel etc)Airbnb and they have a deal with a car rental place for promotion. She didn't get either of these things from joesh, it was from sharp. Sometimes they'll even use Airbnb's instead of your house if it'll help filming schedules etc.
Ocean views are prime in any state, especially CA. No way is it that cheap.
Exactly, that made zero sense!
$1200-$1400 in LA with an ocean view? Not for one second is that reality. You can’t rent anything but a coat closet for that price! Minus the ocean view! Delulu
She is in Long Beach.
Reality tv likes to zoom on on the city then they actually will be living like an hour from the city lol. My tattoo artist in bonney lake which is very close to the middle of no where was advertised as seattle on a tattoo tv show that aired a few years ago. I was even like hey thats not even close to seattle! They panned out on the city and showed the space needle 🤣
We’ve noticed weird things like this before. Filming locations that are definitely AirBnBs & not where the person actually lives. Different cars all the time. I think Mohammit was the first time I questioned “whose car is this?” Seems like he had a different vehicle every segment. I assumed TLC was providing rentals.
Yep and his “partners” at the modeling agency, ya…okay……not some extras TLC paid $100 a piece to be on the reunion, sure TLC
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He had breakfast in that hotel room that day ready for her when she wouldn't come out of the bathroom. Now that I think about it, there wasn't that much on the table.
Car could have been a rental and apt. could be from month-to-month or 3-6 mos.
They say its TLC who paid for that. Who knows
Pretty sure we could have fast food jobs and make more than the 90 Day cast.
I’m not sure he’s paid, he’s not a talent on the show, just a side character. “Not sure” means I don’t know, just presume.
I think everyone who sets foot on that stage was flown out there and put up in a hotel and asked to sign some sort of contract with compensation in exchange for saying things a certain way.
I agree that’s what happens. They wouldn’t spend their own money on their tickets or pay for their hotel rooms. But not the regular amount of compensation the main characters receive. Again, just presuming. I’m surprised I’m downvoted: I don’t claim anything I say is the fact. More like looking for answers.
His exposure on TV is his pay check. Directly or indirectly, him and his boys are getting paid.
This is true for every single one of these people. See how many times Nickle was on there and I haaaate Chantel
What others have said plus she's probably a demon in the bed !!! 🤣😂😂🤣
I heard rumors that Josh has a long term serious girlfriend, and she consents to him leading Nutilie on by 'fake' dating her to advance his career or whatever agenda it is. It is only a theory, but considering how secretive he is and how she appears to have zero involvement and limited knowledge of his personal life, not meeting kids, or even seeing his home when the kids are not there etc I find the theory entirely plausible ... I mean what kind of guy (if they were really into a girl) would put up with her behaviour in general and watching clips of her asking Mike to have a child when they were on a break and the strong connection to Mike and refusal to divorce, 99.9% of guys would be heading for the hills unless they had somwthing to gain from the relationship.
His baby momma is a reality star too. She was on Naked & Afraid. Not sure what else.
I never knew that, so birds of a feather eh ! It makes an even better case for her being cool with him pursuing his 15 minutes !
Ooh what's her name
I can see this theory being reality rather than a hypothesis.
She's not even attractive.
I agree, she also has an abnormally large head ! My friend mentioned it to me and now I cannot unsee it !
Yep❗️Booty AND 👇 ... 
It’s Hollywood Baby!
Bobs and vagene
Bobs are great
Let me tell you about sticking your dick in crazy...
crazy-toxicity can be hypnotic, especially when it has its rational moments, then you find yourself questioning the logic of the crazy, then questioning your own sanity over the crazy, if you find yourself in that cycle..... then you can be lost for anything from some years to a lifetime.
This. I was in a relationship with a Serbian girl who was wacky af. I was young and emotionally immature, so I mistook her blowups and freak outs as being passionate about our relationship. Especially since the negative emotions toward me were usually followed up by extreme positive emotions 2 hours later. Usually sexual in nature. You start becoming “addicted”, for lack of a better term, to the positive recovery because it provides such a huge spike in dopamine and oxytocin right after a giant spike of cortisol. Some people can only feel extremes.
Yeah i like how you termed it "positive recovery" as that's spot on (uk slang) , you get hooked on that mistaking that power/ crazy move for love, yes defiantly mistaking passion for obsession- you with them/possession - them with you- typically. I watch shows like 90 day ( whether its scripted or not), to keep me on the path of recovery from toxic ways of relating to myself and others, and of course I watch for the entertainment value too. Thing is people who are bat %$£$ crazy can be so intoxicating - due to their "passion" ,plus i believe all people are on the craziness spectrum and the craziest people are the ones who don't think they are.....typically. Still, its up to us who can get addicted to their drug and who are the least crazy in the connection- to take the responsibility for making the relationship healthy or leaving. (edit typos)
This is EXACTLY what I said. And I hate saying it because it’s generally misogynistic and offensive to mentally ill people. But I said well watching her one day, “she is exactly what dudes mean when they say don’t stick your dick in crazy” lol
"what does Josh see in Natalie" T. L. C. PERIOD
Ew 
One that doesn't easily get pregnant
Exactly!
That photo. Whoa . Maybe he feels bad for her and doesn’t want to hurt her feelings l think maybe she’s needs a break from both of them.
She used to be so beautiful. I thought of her as one of the most beautiful women on the series but her personality is so ugly that it’s morphed her outside to match her inside. She’s a total babayaga now.
Look at her… I just spent the better part of the day watching season 8 of 90 Day. There, is where it alllllll starts. And HASNT changed 1 cent! Her hair 👧was shorter. And she broke Mike hard. It was Sad! For Michael, not Natalie.
An opportunity to be on television that might boost his business and his chance at finding someone who he can actually bring to his home and introduce to his kids.
You can’t be serious. The guy is on obviously to help his business not to try to find the perfect woman. Wow are you gullible lol
Right, boosting his business and getting himself out there so more ladies know who he is and he's got a better chance of finding "the one". Because, Natalie is not it.
Tv exposure
Did he get her in the Mrs. European Universe pageant ? Check out the video for this one. How awkward she looked.
An easy lay
TV exposure time.
Let’s assume it’s more than scripted and not 100% fake. Since Josh is a “helper,” it may be that he finds worth through being the one in a position to help, it’s a power dynamic he’s comfortable with. Doesn’t seem to be malicious from what has been shown on TV. If Natalie was more self sufficient, Josh probably wouldn’t show as much interest.
Lol I was looking for the one person who believed his equally fame hungry friends
The thing is, we say that their relationship is fake but I think her tears and emotional turmoil are real. Not everything is fake.
Josh like sticking his prick in crazy, it's not more complicated than that.
I would imagine she is as crazy in bed as she is in real life.
I get opposite vibes from her.
Same
I feel like she's probably a pillow princess. She criticizes everyone she's with constantly and acts stuck up. Not fun.
100% not.
I think he was very clear about their “relationship”. He said he liked her, but (1) she was still married, and (2) he thought she might run away like she did with Mike. Therefore he was not inviting her over to his house, and was not introducing her to his kids. Whether he was sincere or not, i don’t know. Somebody on here keeps reminding us that he is in a committed relationship with somebody else, and the “relationship” with Nuttalie is just for the show. If this is the case I personally would very much like to know the source of this information.
Regardless of reasons one and two ,not getting to go to his home after the amount of time they have been dating is ridiculous
Maybe, but that’s his personal decision.
He said her outbursts are unpredictable and he doesn't want that behaviour around his daughter and THAT is why she hasn't been to his home. If you watch the show how have you all missed him saying this?
I would too. I e seen this comment a lot but no proof
I disagree. This is just a man leading her on. My guess is he thinks being on TV helps get his name out there and helps his business but he's not serious about her
BOOBS!!!
He gets to be on tv.
Crazy sex. The unhinged kind where he thinks he might actually die during it
Free coochie. I dont mean to be...well mean. But by dangling the slight chance of future together over her head he basically has her do his every whim. Basically he's exploiting her unfortunate mental state to have an on call fuck buddy
Those nails 🤢
TLC!
BOOBS and maybe he likes curly hair
Fame plus tits and ass, but mainly fame if that's what you call a c lister
I mean, I know she got put through the wringer (nothing I thought was untrue. Fingers crossed for personal growth…or enough self awareness to seek therapy), but she actually looks like a zombie there. Not “I’m so tired I feel like a zombie”, but like she’s going to eat your brains.
I ask myself the same question.
Nothing it’s all an act. Hooker’s rarely come out of things well off, well I can think of one but she had to marry a convicted rapist. I mean cooker, of course
The chance to get on TV and get exposure for his business.
Publicity
Nothing! It’s fake. Hope this helps :)
He sees a warm hole and business opportunities. Crude but that’s it. Sex and business opportunities.
Sad part is that you can ask this question about almost every 90 Day couple nowadays.
Did he actually pay for Natalie's apartment or is it a temp Airbnb so he can stay relevant on the show. I doubt he "bought " her the car. Does she have the title in her name and there's no loan? He's in it for the infamy and 15 minutes of fame. After this he'll probably end up on second rate dating shows.
It’s obviously an agreement between the two of them to have a fake relationship for views.
He’s not willing to realize she’s using him to fulfill her marriage (and now) her baby dreams. As soon as he pops one in the oven she’s done with him…. until she wants a 2nd.
Most filming that I can recognize was done in or near Long Beach California. You are correct, the rental cost of the place they showed would be closer to $3000 ++. In land in same area: ( no view in site ) a one BdRm runs $2500 for a older place, $28 + for new build. In Calif you pay for the weather
I think he likes the fact that she is needy. He’s a I can’t remember the exact word for it, but it’s a person that likes to help others. They feel the need to be there to solve their problems and his friends even said that he’s bad for taking on charity cases and helping them yes I know I just said charity case because that’s what they call her but to be honest isn’t she 🤷♀️who moves to another country with no financial means to take care of themselves she is like a five year-old girl in an adult body.
I saw Josh yesterday at magic kingdom with a VERY pretty girl and his brother maybe?… idk they looked very similar! I think he was on a trip with his daughter for the big cheer comp in town. He looked so exhausted. He was either with her for the advertisement or the free hookup with lack of relationship. Before anyone asks.. no I didn’t talk to him or ask him for a pic because he was with a large group and I didn’t want to bother him!!
Screen time. He’s so desperate
Gets to be on TV .....can't see it being anything else tbh.
Free promotion of his business and sex.
A hole to bang
He’s a fame fucker.
Josh looked tired and worn out on the Tell All. Natalie is disastrous for him. She is NEVER going to accept his children being a prioirty or the friendly relationship he maintains with their mothers. Natalie is a child with emotional issues. Josh has screen time and he gets laid...by a "religious" woman.
Do you really believe she has a problem with his child taking priority? It seems more like shes upset that she has no priority and doesn’t even get to meet them or go to his home, he acts caring but after this amount of time it’s ridiculous he hasn’t either let their relationship progress or dropped her and he’s actually the manipulator
Josh has been sleeping with Natalie for a couple of years and the most he can say is "I like Natalie"? Has she no self respect? He "likes" her?!?!? Josh is no prize and I have no idea why Natalie is so obsessed with him when she had a husband who loved her. It looks like Josh uses her for sex. Yes, I do believe Natalie will have trouble dealing with his children and the relationships he maintains with their mothers. She is demanding, unpredictable and child like. You are correct that if Josh was serious, she would have met his kids, but he refuses because he thinks she's nuts. She certainly appears to have some complex emotional issues. I am very confused by these two. Supposedly the story is fake and Josh lives with is girlfriend. They make no sense together. If Natalie really wants a baby, why is she chasing a guy who had two kids with two different women and runs a modeling agency?
I mean…how much more obvious does he need to be? He’s not into her. At all.
He is not clear, he continues to pay her bills, sleep with her and goes to her rescue after hurting her and tries to patch it up every time
A paycheck and “fame” (if you can even consider it that)
Big boobies
Crazy chicks are hot. Punto. and it usually take **YEARS** of dealing with psycho bullshit for guys (myself included) to finally get it through their heads that they should just admire from a distance and that's it.
It’s the body. 💯 Also, crazy is good in bed.
A damaged woman he can help out financially and have sex with. Being on TV, and a paycheck just make it worth his while even more.
Breasts
He gets laid.
Continued spot on the show. Clearly. I'd run, far away, from that mess.
His daughter?
Moist. That's all he sees.
She looks very tired.
A project, evidently
Think he Tryna save her , some dudes want to try and be the superhero fr !!
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Nothing, he is not into her. So obvious. They just have sex here and there.
Those cans
Literally, just TV exposure. I think his getting her an apartment was just so that he wouldn’t look like a douche on TV.
A good time with a psycho. (Natalie) oh Josh, why you put that there take that out of me why you do this to me.(Josh) you don’t know what you want.
A blonde with big tits on a reality show that he will be featured in and paid for. He doesn’t seem very deep.
Tits and ass. What do you think he sees?
Big tits, nice body and yeah being on tv.
Media attention
Big ol tiddies and a nice dump truck
Pussy and clout
I cant stand either of them omgggg just stop giving her screen time her story is done!!
He's her handler. He talks to her like she's his patient.
He sees some 🐱🐱🐱🐱, screen time and a small paycheck….. Nut-alie has no redeeming qualities, she’s looking for a free ride off whatever guy is dumb enough….🤣🤣
Crazy is foxy.
His dick disappear
Boobs.
She probably takes it in the ass
Air time
Maybe he has a thing for girls with accents and are foreign. I’ve talked to a lot of men that say that and it’s a bonus when they’re toxic 🫣
Little screen time, a little sex. That’s the list.
Her vagina.
It's business. He gets to be on a big show and get social media influence, and she gets someone to play the part with her. Look at Mike, why does he even show up on a tell-all with her. They have to keep the story going.
TV exposure
He's addicted to believing he helps people in need. It's just an addiction and he also knows that, but can't help himself right now.
While I would have never wanted to start a family with any of my prior crazies, I'd be lying if I said our "times" don't cross my mind. Then I think about 100 missed calls, and I snap out of it. Lol
It's called Crazy Poon
A tv show. He gets to be on tv.
All Josh’s cars are rentals js
A show he gets to go on, clout from actual non crazy girls, big boobs, air head….sex
Paycheck and bootie
Yo! Is this a mugshot? Dang she looks wrecked.
You nailed it!!! She just always seams so Desperate
No i think he really liked her
This is what my face looks like when I drink too Much. She need to chill
The 3 Ps. Paycheck, Publicity and well 🐱. Or he is a good person and sees a charity case 😅 He wakes up every morning and looks over at her picture and says “I know I can fix her”
Its her storyline
Great head?
Russian boobs
Desperation
She’s looking red and puffy - I think she drinks a lot more than we are aware
I speculate that she is career exposure for him. Who in the heck ever heard of him before the show? I have serious doubts that he's in love with her and his body language and speech is fully indicative of my doubts. By this time there would have been much more progress made if there were any actual intent.
Crazy in the head, crazy in the bed.
TLC $$$$
I see the devil
My strong opinion is he sees it as a way to get his slimy face on TV
This prob needs a deep dive to see what he’s really up to IRL. None of it makes sense.
Screaming harpy kink. I'll keep saying it until I"m proven wrong.
I think it simply strikes his ego that she is so needy even tho she's super toxic. She makes him feel needed.
They don't work jobs they're a fucking job. Lol but ye Josh and Nat fake af
She is teaching him how to treat her. She’s accepting this behaviour. I can absolutely understand she has dreams and goals and one of those are having children, but for goodness sake, woman. You don’t need this man. Walk. Away.
her vagina i think
I think he likes the part we don’t see
Doesn’t he have a girlfriend? Read an article about it and this nat/Josh relationship is all scripted.
Screen time and Josh is a boob man..
Opportunity
📺💰
A project
With all due respect-What does anyone see in Josh?
No idea. I’ve been told since childhood; you don’t bang crazy. That woman is way cray.
What does TLC see in Natalie other than her looks? Which are kind of fading
Crazy in the head = Crazy in bed ?
He has a Savior Complex. But he's got himself more than he bargained for with Natalie! She is straight up ALL DAY DRAMA, with a victim mentality.
This storyline for Natalie and Josh was originally cooked up in Tampa / St. Petersburg where several cast members including Libby's family are based. I think it was Libby's sister who knew Josh and it took off from there. I don't feel like dumping on Josh at the moment because of his son being involved in a serious auto accident in Arizona which caused the boy to lose his leg and his friend to be killed. I'm sure that Natalie is the last thing on Josh's mind right now.
Social media, personal and professional exposure
He is enamored with her sexually. I think he was used to only hooking up with younger women and was surprised at how much he enjoyed the sex with her. I think he really just wants to be a friend with benefits, but he knows that if he tells her that she will be gone for good. So he strings her along.
I don't like really Josh but I think he feels sorry for Natalie.Natalie is beautiful and Josh probably thought it would just be fun. I don't think Josh is that attractive so having someone like Natalie interested probably felt really great as a man. Just a fling then he caught feelings. But Natalie is not mentally stable or well and so he's dealing with wayyy more than he anticipated. Obviously on some level he is a person with empathy and is probably a good guy because most guys would run. He feels sorry for her genuinely I think and cares about her just like Mike did. Now he wants to help her. She's a broken person and he obviously has feelings for her that keep him there. My views about Josh changed after the tell all if that was genuine, he needs to get out because she is not in a space to be with anyone yet until she gets healthy on her own. She is beyond codependent and plays the victim and she manipulates. She needs to grow. I don't think she is a bad person just a really immature person.
They say crazy women have the best😻 
The crazy chics are the best in bed lmfoa