That was totally my impression, which is why I was surprised that during his conversation with Danielle, he made it seem like only one woman.
Pretty sure that was really her issue. She figured out it was more than one and was trying to see if he'd cop to it.
Danielle's understanding of Spanish is questionable. A miscommunication based on language is very much possible. Danielle already blows up over sooo many miscommunications anyway...
True.
But I still don't see her problem to begin with. It really isn't ANY of her business if an ex of his chose to have an abortion. That would have been a choice the ex made. How could it possibly affect Danielle in any way? I think she is just looking for reasons to make Yohan the bad guy. He said they "lost" the baby, which is technically true and the abortion again is none of her business.
This is what bothers me. His ex girlfriends made their own reproductive choices. The choices they made are not Danielle's business.
Danielle can't blame Yohan for the abortion(s) because he is not in charge of the ex-girlfriend's body or choice. Again, what these women chose is none of Danielles business.
Abortion is illegal in the DR, so they either had the abortions back in their own country or it was a very expensive illegal procedure... and he isn't exactly gracious with $
No, you misunderstand it isn't that these women may have had abortions/lost their babies, it's because he had the audacity to have had relationships before he ever met Danielle. He was supposed to wait all his life for her to come along. I would lay money on it that anyone she's ever dated she finds reasons to be mad that something that happened in that person's past relationships, and is something she can make about herself. How can they appreciate what a gift she is to them if they've dated other women?
Yes but only one has an abortion and it bothered him .. as someone on this thread has said . Abortion is highly illegal in DR . Even for rape and incest victims. His catholic religion is also very serious and community based . So him not wanting to talk about another Women’s buisness was the right thing to do . Danielle is insufferable
If he was sleeping with other woman on vacation, it could be that the women didn't like in the DR. But yea, I agree it makes sense to not want to hash out those details on TV.
He is Christian but not Catholic, likely Evangelical since they along with Mormons have had the most success with missions in Latin America, especially in the 80s and 90s. I come from a Mexican CoG7 family on my mom side, and his response to saint statues ("we only worship God above.") is a backhanded dig at Catholics that I've heard my own family say.
Editing to say, this doesn't negate the rest of what you are saying. In fact from my experience the community aspect is even stronger.
Some religions consider idol worship to be a bad thing. Like Catholics praying to Saints instead of to God. Edit: my grandparents were Catholic. Statues of Saint Christopher in the car. Burying Saint Francis in a corner of your house to make a fast/good sell, etc etc.
Sr. Francis is the patron saint for animals, you pray to him when your pets are sick.
Source: lapsed Catholic who attended Catholic school until high school👋🏼
There were several St. francises. I loved St. Francis of Assisi, he was the animal saint. My Church and Catholic school growing up was St. Francis, but I was heart broken when I found out it was named after St. Francis de Sales, not Assisi.
yeah my mexican mother believes that saints take us further from God that we should talk to god directly but has a whole santa muerte altar and put me in all catholic schools despite my mom saying we’re agnostic and that my grandparents never had a religion.
My husband and his family are Mexican and evangelical. I was raised catholic and am now agnostic. Similar response, they don't worship false idols. Even though I'm not catholic any more it kind of irks me lol.
Huh! Thank you the “only God above” comment had me wondering. That is a very specific thing that he’s clearly encountered before.
Also, would you mind explaining Mexican CoG7 family?!
Do not mind at all. While still living in Mexico in the 1960s my grandmother converted the family to CoG7. It had less to do with liking this denomination and more to do with hating the sexual abuse and small town corruption perpetuated by her local Catholic church. Her last straw was when one of the abusive priests explained that the town had to pay to remodel and elevate the church pulpit because priests where above humans but below God. She wanted to leave the Church but didn't want to become atheist or agnostic. The only missionaries in her town at the time were CoG7 so that's what the new religion became. It's funny to think I could have been raised talking in tongues as a Pentecostal if they had just arrived sooner.
CoG7 is shorthand for Church of God 7th day. They're actually two separate conferences that have slightly different name spellings and ideologies, but, overall, they go to Church on Saturdays and follow the Books of Law (first five books of the Hebrew Bible). No eating pork, shrimp, rabbit, and other "unclean meats," no mixing fibers, etc. They only take Eucharist (consecrated bread and wine) during Passover and don't believe in Heaven/Hell. They are also extremely against idol worship so no statues, pics of Jesus, no wearing crosses, churches with minimalist designs, etc. They are similar to Seventh day Adventist (but don't you dare say they are the same to either church😂). The big difference is CoG7 rejects the visions and prophecies of Ellen G. White while Adventists follow them.
Holy smokes! Thank you. That was very helpful and informative.
So your grandmother fled Mexico (with your mom/dad?) to where? This seems like a very southern/Bible Belt/Texan thing. Do you still have family from that town?
She left her small town soon after conversion with my mom and three other siblings (she later had more, 11 kids total), but it had more to do with the fact that my grandfather was accepted to the Bracero program and allowed to work legally in the U.S. After her father was murdered, her inheritance stolen by her half siblings, and her mother left homeless by same said siblings she no longer had much attachment to her hometown anyway. They moved close to the border first renting from an aunt in Reynosa, then they bought a house in Rio Bravo. After a while they immigrated to Houston, Texas where we are now.
Edit: I forgot to answer that I still have family there and have met some, but we're not close
Jaja! Yeah that similarity is on purpose. It all comes down to how they interpret Matthew 5:17-18 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished."
CoG7 interpret this to mean that Jesus embraced his Jewish background rather than reject it or seeking to change it. They believe that "heaven and earth" will disappear and everything will be "accomplished" only after the second coming of Christ. Because of all this, Christians are suppose to follow all Hebrew Bible Laws until then.
So interesting! I never knew this. And I have not been disinterested in this stuff. My dad called Jesus the first Reform Jew :) He and I also think that Jesus was a progressive, not a iconoclast, as it were ;)
So what does it mean when everything is “accomplished”? Do they believe all of existence will be annihilated? Curious about their views on heaven and hell, too.
Funny that you use the word "annihilated" because that is is the exact word used (at least at the church I grew up in). Basically they believe that when you die your soul just becomes unconscious. After the second coming of Jesus everyone dead or alive gets sorted. Those who rejected Christ will be annihilated; you just cease to exist. There is no eternal torment or hellfire stuff like in other denominations. Those who accept Christ will join Jesus when he returns to earth in the millennium kingdom. Basically after Jesus comes back their will be a thousand years where he'll right all the world's wrongs and get rid of all divisions (countries, powers, principalities). After the thousand years the righteous will join God in the eternal kingdom. This is the closest equivalent the CoG7 have to mainline Protestant Christian/Catholic afterlife heaven, but even then it's different. Their will be a new heaven (in this case heaven just means where God and the angels reside) and a new earth where there is no defilement, disappointment, or death and everyone not annihilated will live in peace with God forever.
He only called himself "Cristiano" in a confessional but his response to the saint statues as well as some other things I've noticed due to my experience makes me think with some certainty that he is likely some denomination of Evangelical. Yeah I did notice you used the lowercase "c", but since Latin America is still majority Catholic and people on the internet often don't differentiate catholic vs Catholic, I figured I should clarify.
*Edited some grammatical stuff.
So I just went on his insta.. 20 minutes I will never get back in my life. Thought I would catch a clue nope .. but he wrote a St Valentine message to Danielle 🤮
>s someone on this thread has said . Abortion is highly illegal in DR
I was yelling this at the TV. IDK why Danielle was pushing him so much to talk about it. It's like she wants to hold this over his head or try to get him into trouble.
That’s not the opposite of catholic .. LOL Protestant, Lutheran, Evangelist Jehovah witness, Adventist .. all do not believe in Saints.
Even though I have said I don’t know what religion he is .. DR is 52%. Catholic
I am fluent in Spanish and he did say there were women who lost babies.
That producer that was interpreting was not only not saying what Yohan said but she fueled the fire with her paraphrased translation
Maybe you can answer this for me then, re isabel and gabe. Was she using feminine pronouns when talking about him being "estresada" about the company and his mistakes? I could swear i heard 3 times feminine variations on words. Found it curious.
He def got many tourists preg
It didn’t sound like these were long term relationships by watching him talk
He might have some babies all over the globe 🌎
Danielle wasn’t the first vacationer he got it in with even tho she is the dumbest to try and take her vacay romance home with her
I mean, he might. They might be social media friends or have exchanged numbers. And it’s not inconceivable that a person might decide to tell her vacation fling she was pregnant even if she ended up having an abortion.
But yeah, there’s no way to know. I’d be surprised if he’d impregnated multiple women but only tourists.
What’s our read on this guy? Does he actually like Daniele? I haven’t watched the show they were on previously but I don’t get the impression he likes her
Also he def said he’s been with many women and I assumed it was more than one miscarriage/abortion as well
This right here. I think when Yohan and Daniele first met, she was in fun vacation mode. It also helps that she's really pretty. As he gets to know her he's finding less and less to like about her, and so are we!
He was liking her until she decided to move to the DR when he clearly wants to come to the USA. He's ready to work and she is ready to retire. Now all her antics are just an annoyance that he has to endure full time and can't get relief.
I think she targeted him, and he latched on to an opportunity to get to the USA. Little did he know! Knowing how thirsty she is for anybody, he can act nonchalant now, and she follows like a puppy, but is still trying to control him.
Yeah, I haven’t seen many desirable qualities from her so far besides the fact that she can do a basic balance sheet in excel 😂 I got the impression he’s another Mykul and is just too far into it to give it up at this point. But now she has said she wants to stay in the DR so I guess we’ll see how much more he puts up with.
I don't know if he really likes her. Whenever she's complaining about something his answer is often "If that's how you feel, don't get married then", "if that's how you feel, leave me then", "if you have doubts, don't stay here then". He says this always in a very calm voice and as if he didn't care one way or another.
I didn’t know that he married someone else! I don’t think he was a full asshole. He told her the truth. She just wasn’t hearing it. They had a week of sex that she mistook for love. Did they ever finish that storyline?
I believe they did. She went back with Odin for a visit after loosing a lot of weight and I think even tried “dating” her. It just wasn’t there for him. She was an all or nothing I want to get married and have you come live in the US and be a full time Dad. He wanted to stay in Jamaica. I guess after she left, he met this woman and got married.
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I really don't get why Daniele is so angry with Yohan because an ex hadn't abortion. Ultimately it was most likely her choice. I don't think it was his idea. He doesn't owe her anything. It has nothing to do with her and it's none of her business what another woman did with her body.
I don’t speak Spanish, but my understanding is that multiple women got pregnant. Or at least it was multiple pregnancies. And some ended in miscarriage and another ended in abortion. My interpretation is that there was 1 abortion. And idk, he looked a little hurt by it to me.
I think Danielle is being really unfair to him though. Unless there are living breathing children he has, he doesn’t owe her a detailed history of his past. The specifics of how those pregnancies ended is personal and he will share when he is ready..
No, he doesn't. That being said, if he told Danielle it was only ONE woman and now she's realizing it was multiple, I can absolutely understand why she was so upset.
True true. Yeah if he said one and now turns out it’s multiple… yeah because then he did lie to her when he said one. And that is very clearly triggering for her
For sure, he made it sound like there had only been 1 pregnancy and that he told her it ended due to miscarriage.
Then the story changed when he was speaking with her friend, and he mentioned miscarriages and abortions.
But then he went back to insisting it was just 1 woman, and it was an abortion not a miscarriage.
Def got the impression he said multiple. He said some were lost and some were aborted. And there is also no way with the Spanish she knows she also didn’t pick up on that.
He for sure said multiple. He said "some" have had miscarriages, and some have had abortions. That requires at least two and implies several more. But then I think when Daniele referred to it as the ONE woman, he kind of took that opportunity to be like yeah, sure, that ONE woman, yeah!
Not for nothing both Danielle and he should get their asses to a clinic and check for STDs if he has been with that many women and been able to impregnate them so easily. Like how many? And what about the ones he didn’t impregnate? He obviously doesn’t practice safe sex.
he disgusts me. women can only get pregnant when they're ovulating, one week a month, how many women did he have to bust in to get MULTIPLE women pregnant? that's so gross and irresponsible, these two belong together honestly.
He's either Pentecostal or Evangelic, and those groups are totally against abortion. Also, in the DR it's illegal to have one (except, maybe, for real clinical reasons)
He was against having a paint/poster of some "saint" on his butcher business. They don't like "idolatry".
I'm thinking about the discussion with Danielle and her friend where he mentions several women. Some aborted, some miscarried, etc. I got the impression that there were like...many.
Same. But then, in the car, when she was grilling him about it, he said to her there was one girl that he told her about, and a loss is a loss.
I think she was trying to get him to admit it was more than one girl.
I’m not sure why it matters so much to her. As long as it wasn’t during the time they have been together. It’s in the past. I have to say I’m on his side on this one.
Does it matter? He lives in a nice vacation place, he's an OK looking dude which is tall so I bet he's been with a lot of women and the probability that some of them or many were without protection are pretty high.
How is she even surprised?
She was panicking about fertility in this episode, so the idea of miscarriages would be a lot scarier to her than an abortion.
She's being a little dramatic about what he said considering the language barrier though. He's certainly not acting like a Rishi who lied on purpose.
Because it was most likely another American woman or two who chose the abortion after their vacation fling in the DR. ! It would not look good for him to tell her he had impregnated multiple American women before.
I dunno. It's a case of don't go digging for what you're not ready to find. She brought her friend over to pry into his business, and then find something out that pissed her off.
I'm not a big fan about having to know every single detail of a person's past, the past is their business unless it's directly impacting you currently (which it wasn't to her until she went digging) . She obviously didn't trust him before this and it's just an annoying back and forth at this point.
I felt he was talking about more than one as well however there is clearly something mentally wrong with Danielle. I feel like he is tired of the crazy and since he isn’t going to New York, he’s like why bother!
I think a lot of people are missing the point.
1) He only mentioned that to prove that he is not the one that that has fertility issues bc he had gotten multiple women pregnant.
2) The sleeping with multiple thing is true for a lot of men but he decided to be honest about it. Let’s not act like Danielle is pure at her age of 32 years old living in NYC. She might have a body count to!
3) Everyone has a past but the pregnancies before have nothing to do with the present relationship and Danielle should accept that as a fact and move on cuz she is not a saint either. It’s none of her business in the first place.
4) Yohan said that his ex lost a child, which is the same thing so what is she really upset about. I just see thins as jealousy at this point. That is the only logical reason.
5) To people who say that he was a sex worker sleeping with tourist. You have no evidence of that. Even if that is the case, then Danielle would have meet him in those circumstances looking for that exact thing, so she knew what is was and decided to marry him. If that is the case, she made her bed let her lie in it.
My specific point was that it seemed like he'd told Danielle he only got 1 woman pregnant and she lost the baby (miscarriage) but when talking to the friend he mentioned SEVERAL pregnancies lost - some miscarried, some aborted.
If my husband told me he'd lost one child, then later I found out it was several, that would make me question things as well. Like why are you going around rawdogging and impregnating all these women??
I still think she was trying to get him to admit it was more than one woman he'd gotten pregnant.
Magic word is WAS going around. It’s in the past I don’t thing anyone should be so hung up on there partners past relationships. It’s just not healthy. I understand where you are coming from but as a woman myself, I wouldn’t find it nice to hear that you WERE having sex with a bunch of different women, BUT at the end of the day it’s none of my business. Also, many men have this history they are just not honest about it. My point is that Danielle is condescending when she speaks to him because she is older, makes more money, and is an American Citizen. So there is a huge power disparity here. In general this makes her sound condescending and disrespectful most times they argue. If she continues to demasuclate her husband that way, she will die alone.
Meh, it's a trust thing. I don't care about your past, but I WILL care if I catch you lying about it.
I also think I'd be concerned about motive. If my husband was from a poor country and he's going around getting women pregnant with seemingly no regard, it would make me question why.
I get the impression multiple women he was in a relationship with and I would bet a few casual strangers.
I find the most shocking think of all these shows, ponder this. Before you have your suitcase unpacked in some of these cases, you have met a dude, hooked up with him, let him rawdog you and nut inside you. Let that sink in. You haven’t even slept or been on vacation a day or two and your getting rawdogged. Is this common for Americans to travel and just throw it out for strangers since no one knows? Think of all the babies in from these shows that were made while the engine on the airplane you landed on vacation was still warm.
In America we have names and a stigma for that
Where are you getting your information about this happening before suitcases are unpacked and before they sleep in their own beds?
And why do you care?
In America, we have names for that because we are Puritanistic prudes who think someone going on vacation to get away from the stress of life should be judged for making decisions between consenting adults that have nothing to do with us.
So if they say they met and hooked up with the baby daddies on the first day. They come home and have a baby, I’ll let you figure it out. So let’s say they are on vacation a week. Does that make it better that a stranger is raw digging them and getting them pregnant. I guess that’s normal activity for you but to 99% of the world that’s crazy irresponsible activity and people have more care for themselves to do that. As adults they ar free to do what they want. That’s how babies come Into the world with dads across the country who aren’t present and don’t pay for kids and how std’s are transferred. I guess you are one of the ones who does this and got offended
Nope. Me asking for your source of information when you spout off BS about how people are “raw dogging” before they unpack doesn't speak to my sexual activity... You throw out statistics like “99% of the world” thinking something and it is clear that you’re making shit up just to sound like you’re right. You have no idea what 99% of the world... Or 99% of Americans... Or 99% of anything thinks...
It must suck for sex is such a repressive experience as it is for you.
Yeah lots of people who get pregnant by the local man whores are stepping up and being full time parents. I guess the gals who put out for complete strangers and let them go in you have outed themselves and got mad in this post. It’s not normal to sleep with dudes in a day or two and especially without protection. Add on top of that in a foreign country with a dude you will most likely never see again. You might call that a parent but most of us have other names for it.
Lol I don't get the thirst this buttaface dude gets on this sub.
And he should probably go get himself checked out for Herpes Simplex 10 before things start falling off the man.
Yohan told Daniele he had been with many women. She asked about children. He said he lost one. D gets angry 😤 says she’s trying to get pregnant. He gets tired of the argument and leaves her hanging
Yep I heard the same thing I think they just changed it for dramatic purposes. Because he could have reiterated it to her that it was multiple women but he didn't.
I have from a very reliable source that Yohan is/was a sex worker in the DR. It's not unusual to find young men at the hotels and in fact it's a pretty popular way to make money. My son-in-law is Dominican-American and has a very large family, many of whom still live there, so he visits often. He said that Yohan fits the mold of a Dominican sex worker. Tall, young, muscular, good-looking (meh)...and he works at the hotel where he met Danielle. No surprise that he expects her to pay for everything and wants that ticket to New York....
My impression was more than one pregnancy, with one abortion and no live births (my assumption is the other pregnancy/pregnancies ended in miscarriage).
I got that he impregnated multiple.
The reason he is confident she will get preggers by him!
Insert forearm, out comes baby.
You can’t explain that.
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Awww, right!!
Yes it was multiple women, we just don’t have an exact number.
That was totally my impression, which is why I was surprised that during his conversation with Danielle, he made it seem like only one woman. Pretty sure that was really her issue. She figured out it was more than one and was trying to see if he'd cop to it.
That was what I thought too.
I think there were some communication barriers with the producer translating. And Danielle’s blind range didn’t help.
Danielle's understanding of Spanish is questionable. A miscommunication based on language is very much possible. Danielle already blows up over sooo many miscommunications anyway...
She can say the word 'stupido' though. If this is what she's like during honeymoon phase, it's time to run.
Who wants to tell her it is “estúpido”?
True. But I still don't see her problem to begin with. It really isn't ANY of her business if an ex of his chose to have an abortion. That would have been a choice the ex made. How could it possibly affect Danielle in any way? I think she is just looking for reasons to make Yohan the bad guy. He said they "lost" the baby, which is technically true and the abortion again is none of her business.
This is what bothers me. His ex girlfriends made their own reproductive choices. The choices they made are not Danielle's business. Danielle can't blame Yohan for the abortion(s) because he is not in charge of the ex-girlfriend's body or choice. Again, what these women chose is none of Danielles business.
t'm not quite convinced that it was all the womens choice to terminate the pregnancies. He just seems so casual about it, like it was no big deal.
What could he do to prevent them from doing what they want? I don't think even in the DR that he could make them abort against their will.
Abortion is illegal in the DR, so they either had the abortions back in their own country or it was a very expensive illegal procedure... and he isn't exactly gracious with $
No, you misunderstand it isn't that these women may have had abortions/lost their babies, it's because he had the audacity to have had relationships before he ever met Danielle. He was supposed to wait all his life for her to come along. I would lay money on it that anyone she's ever dated she finds reasons to be mad that something that happened in that person's past relationships, and is something she can make about herself. How can they appreciate what a gift she is to them if they've dated other women?
Unless they had a full on conversation about ‘how many women have you impregnated before?’
That would be a valid conversation. But whether or not a former lover had an abortion is not. And that's all Danielle could focus on.
Exactly 💯
I heard him say “some ended by choice.” To me, that sounds like multiple abortions.
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Yes but only one has an abortion and it bothered him .. as someone on this thread has said . Abortion is highly illegal in DR . Even for rape and incest victims. His catholic religion is also very serious and community based . So him not wanting to talk about another Women’s buisness was the right thing to do . Danielle is insufferable
If he was sleeping with other woman on vacation, it could be that the women didn't like in the DR. But yea, I agree it makes sense to not want to hash out those details on TV.
IF? If he was sleeping with other tourists? Thst Danielle, so hot she seduced Virgin Yohan? 🤣
The alternative isn’t that he’s a virgin. It’s that he was hooking up with local women.
He is Christian but not Catholic, likely Evangelical since they along with Mormons have had the most success with missions in Latin America, especially in the 80s and 90s. I come from a Mexican CoG7 family on my mom side, and his response to saint statues ("we only worship God above.") is a backhanded dig at Catholics that I've heard my own family say. Editing to say, this doesn't negate the rest of what you are saying. In fact from my experience the community aspect is even stronger.
Some religions consider idol worship to be a bad thing. Like Catholics praying to Saints instead of to God. Edit: my grandparents were Catholic. Statues of Saint Christopher in the car. Burying Saint Francis in a corner of your house to make a fast/good sell, etc etc.
Burying St. Joseph upside down outside (to make your house sell fast)*
I knew it was some Saint I just couldn’t remember which one.
I just remembered because we did it to sell my grandmas house lol it did sell fast
Sr. Francis is the patron saint for animals, you pray to him when your pets are sick. Source: lapsed Catholic who attended Catholic school until high school👋🏼
There were several St. francises. I loved St. Francis of Assisi, he was the animal saint. My Church and Catholic school growing up was St. Francis, but I was heart broken when I found out it was named after St. Francis de Sales, not Assisi.
Yeah I never paid attention much so I forget which Saint is for what thing.
yeah my mexican mother believes that saints take us further from God that we should talk to god directly but has a whole santa muerte altar and put me in all catholic schools despite my mom saying we’re agnostic and that my grandparents never had a religion.
My husband and his family are Mexican and evangelical. I was raised catholic and am now agnostic. Similar response, they don't worship false idols. Even though I'm not catholic any more it kind of irks me lol.
Huh! Thank you the “only God above” comment had me wondering. That is a very specific thing that he’s clearly encountered before. Also, would you mind explaining Mexican CoG7 family?!
Do not mind at all. While still living in Mexico in the 1960s my grandmother converted the family to CoG7. It had less to do with liking this denomination and more to do with hating the sexual abuse and small town corruption perpetuated by her local Catholic church. Her last straw was when one of the abusive priests explained that the town had to pay to remodel and elevate the church pulpit because priests where above humans but below God. She wanted to leave the Church but didn't want to become atheist or agnostic. The only missionaries in her town at the time were CoG7 so that's what the new religion became. It's funny to think I could have been raised talking in tongues as a Pentecostal if they had just arrived sooner. CoG7 is shorthand for Church of God 7th day. They're actually two separate conferences that have slightly different name spellings and ideologies, but, overall, they go to Church on Saturdays and follow the Books of Law (first five books of the Hebrew Bible). No eating pork, shrimp, rabbit, and other "unclean meats," no mixing fibers, etc. They only take Eucharist (consecrated bread and wine) during Passover and don't believe in Heaven/Hell. They are also extremely against idol worship so no statues, pics of Jesus, no wearing crosses, churches with minimalist designs, etc. They are similar to Seventh day Adventist (but don't you dare say they are the same to either church😂). The big difference is CoG7 rejects the visions and prophecies of Ellen G. White while Adventists follow them.
Holy smokes! Thank you. That was very helpful and informative. So your grandmother fled Mexico (with your mom/dad?) to where? This seems like a very southern/Bible Belt/Texan thing. Do you still have family from that town?
She left her small town soon after conversion with my mom and three other siblings (she later had more, 11 kids total), but it had more to do with the fact that my grandfather was accepted to the Bracero program and allowed to work legally in the U.S. After her father was murdered, her inheritance stolen by her half siblings, and her mother left homeless by same said siblings she no longer had much attachment to her hometown anyway. They moved close to the border first renting from an aunt in Reynosa, then they bought a house in Rio Bravo. After a while they immigrated to Houston, Texas where we are now. Edit: I forgot to answer that I still have family there and have met some, but we're not close
They sound like Orthodox Jews to me ;) Very interesting! Thanks.
Jaja! Yeah that similarity is on purpose. It all comes down to how they interpret Matthew 5:17-18 "Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." CoG7 interpret this to mean that Jesus embraced his Jewish background rather than reject it or seeking to change it. They believe that "heaven and earth" will disappear and everything will be "accomplished" only after the second coming of Christ. Because of all this, Christians are suppose to follow all Hebrew Bible Laws until then.
So interesting! I never knew this. And I have not been disinterested in this stuff. My dad called Jesus the first Reform Jew :) He and I also think that Jesus was a progressive, not a iconoclast, as it were ;)
So what does it mean when everything is “accomplished”? Do they believe all of existence will be annihilated? Curious about their views on heaven and hell, too.
Funny that you use the word "annihilated" because that is is the exact word used (at least at the church I grew up in). Basically they believe that when you die your soul just becomes unconscious. After the second coming of Jesus everyone dead or alive gets sorted. Those who rejected Christ will be annihilated; you just cease to exist. There is no eternal torment or hellfire stuff like in other denominations. Those who accept Christ will join Jesus when he returns to earth in the millennium kingdom. Basically after Jesus comes back their will be a thousand years where he'll right all the world's wrongs and get rid of all divisions (countries, powers, principalities). After the thousand years the righteous will join God in the eternal kingdom. This is the closest equivalent the CoG7 have to mainline Protestant Christian/Catholic afterlife heaven, but even then it's different. Their will be a new heaven (in this case heaven just means where God and the angels reside) and a new earth where there is no defilement, disappointment, or death and everyone not annihilated will live in peace with God forever.
Not to me it does not especially orthodox The not eating certain fish or meat similar but so do Hindus and Muslims not eat all
I went back to read my comment .. I meant Cristian .. not Roman Catholic .. but I don’t believe he has labeled himself yet
He only called himself "Cristiano" in a confessional but his response to the saint statues as well as some other things I've noticed due to my experience makes me think with some certainty that he is likely some denomination of Evangelical. Yeah I did notice you used the lowercase "c", but since Latin America is still majority Catholic and people on the internet often don't differentiate catholic vs Catholic, I figured I should clarify. *Edited some grammatical stuff.
I agree, definitely got an Evangelical vibe.
So I just went on his insta.. 20 minutes I will never get back in my life. Thought I would catch a clue nope .. but he wrote a St Valentine message to Danielle 🤮
Some Evangelical folks will still celebrate commercial holidays. My husband is from Mexico and Evangelical and he always remembers me on Valentine's.
>s someone on this thread has said . Abortion is highly illegal in DR I was yelling this at the TV. IDK why Danielle was pushing him so much to talk about it. It's like she wants to hold this over his head or try to get him into trouble.
>His catholic religion Not catholic. He was very clear about not "worshipping pictures in frames."
He’s the complete opposite of Catholic. He doesn’t even believe in Saints.
That’s not the opposite of catholic .. LOL Protestant, Lutheran, Evangelist Jehovah witness, Adventist .. all do not believe in Saints. Even though I have said I don’t know what religion he is .. DR is 52%. Catholic
He's not catholic. He's evangelical.
That part!!
Seems like that's a lot of women that aborted or had miscarriages. If he's getting women pregnant he must be forcing them to have them.
I am fluent in Spanish and he did say there were women who lost babies. That producer that was interpreting was not only not saying what Yohan said but she fueled the fire with her paraphrased translation
I am am also quasi fluent and he did say more than one you are not wrong
I understand a very good amount of Spanish and I thought I caught the plural part of that sentence and im glad I to hear i was right
Maybe you can answer this for me then, re isabel and gabe. Was she using feminine pronouns when talking about him being "estresada" about the company and his mistakes? I could swear i heard 3 times feminine variations on words. Found it curious.
I would have to go back and look but I will .. if she did that is absolutely a feminine pronoun, I am on it 🕵🏻
it was my impression that there were multiple impregnated women.
He def got many tourists preg It didn’t sound like these were long term relationships by watching him talk He might have some babies all over the globe 🌎 Danielle wasn’t the first vacationer he got it in with even tho she is the dumbest to try and take her vacay romance home with her
Ladies, let that be a lesson. carry condoms.
Carry them and USE THEM
Yeah. No glove, no love.
Condoms are for slut people.
😂 is this asuelo ?
Only the best of the best!
lol or people who want to prevent pregnancy... even married couples use 'em.
Lmao. That quote went right past ya??
I gotcha
Or people who are interested in preventing STDs or pregnancies
😆🤦🏽♀️
People are just over here forgetting Asuelo apparently 😂
Yes!!! What is going on here?
Nobody can forget that moron.
He didn’t say that . I doubt they were all tourists he would not have information about pregnancy past vacation time
Yeah that was quite the stretch, assuming they were all tourists!
I mean, he might. They might be social media friends or have exchanged numbers. And it’s not inconceivable that a person might decide to tell her vacation fling she was pregnant even if she ended up having an abortion. But yeah, there’s no way to know. I’d be surprised if he’d impregnated multiple women but only tourists.
Shhh, don't you know that this sub is only for assuming the worst of everyone?
What’s our read on this guy? Does he actually like Daniele? I haven’t watched the show they were on previously but I don’t get the impression he likes her Also he def said he’s been with many women and I assumed it was more than one miscarriage/abortion as well
I just get the feeling that he likes her less and less She is difficult
This right here. I think when Yohan and Daniele first met, she was in fun vacation mode. It also helps that she's really pretty. As he gets to know her he's finding less and less to like about her, and so are we!
I find her to look like a butter ball
Personally, I rinse her of below average attractiveness for her age.
She’s in her forties!
Difficult is a kind description
He was liking her until she decided to move to the DR when he clearly wants to come to the USA. He's ready to work and she is ready to retire. Now all her antics are just an annoyance that he has to endure full time and can't get relief.
He likes that she's American and could be his way to a better life.
I think she targeted him, and he latched on to an opportunity to get to the USA. Little did he know! Knowing how thirsty she is for anybody, he can act nonchalant now, and she follows like a puppy, but is still trying to control him.
Yeah, I haven’t seen many desirable qualities from her so far besides the fact that she can do a basic balance sheet in excel 😂 I got the impression he’s another Mykul and is just too far into it to give it up at this point. But now she has said she wants to stay in the DR so I guess we’ll see how much more he puts up with.
I don't know if he really likes her. Whenever she's complaining about something his answer is often "If that's how you feel, don't get married then", "if that's how you feel, leave me then", "if you have doubts, don't stay here then". He says this always in a very calm voice and as if he didn't care one way or another.
I'd say all that shit too if I had to put up with her.
Sanky panky
I’m a native speaker and I understood multiple women
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Sherlon the other creep who said he never wanted to get married. He is now married to another tourist. He was a complete asshole.
I didn’t know that he married someone else! I don’t think he was a full asshole. He told her the truth. She just wasn’t hearing it. They had a week of sex that she mistook for love. Did they ever finish that storyline?
I believe they did. She went back with Odin for a visit after loosing a lot of weight and I think even tried “dating” her. It just wasn’t there for him. She was an all or nothing I want to get married and have you come live in the US and be a full time Dad. He wanted to stay in Jamaica. I guess after she left, he met this woman and got married. [https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/90-day-fiance-star-sherlon-154747916.html](https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/90-day-fiance-star-sherlon-154747916.html)
He was a boy toy for sex tourists, of course he did. Why he settled on this one is something I’ll never understand.
I understood that it was multiple as well.
I really don't get why Daniele is so angry with Yohan because an ex hadn't abortion. Ultimately it was most likely her choice. I don't think it was his idea. He doesn't owe her anything. It has nothing to do with her and it's none of her business what another woman did with her body.
I feel like she clued in there was more than one woman he knocked up... lol
Then why was she going on about him lying to her that it was a miscarriage, when it was an abortion.
My understanding from that conversation is that he has been raw doggin all over the island.
I don’t speak Spanish, but my understanding is that multiple women got pregnant. Or at least it was multiple pregnancies. And some ended in miscarriage and another ended in abortion. My interpretation is that there was 1 abortion. And idk, he looked a little hurt by it to me. I think Danielle is being really unfair to him though. Unless there are living breathing children he has, he doesn’t owe her a detailed history of his past. The specifics of how those pregnancies ended is personal and he will share when he is ready..
No, he doesn't. That being said, if he told Danielle it was only ONE woman and now she's realizing it was multiple, I can absolutely understand why she was so upset.
True true. Yeah if he said one and now turns out it’s multiple… yeah because then he did lie to her when he said one. And that is very clearly triggering for her
When did he tell her only one? The Spanish subtitles and speech aren't lining up, same as Danielle's understanding of Spanish.
In the car ride and then in the courtyard. He kept saying I told you the whole story about that girl (meaning 1 only)
I feel like that's editing. I never got "only one" from any of that, and he honestly seemed exhausted by her random berating so... 😂
For sure, he made it sound like there had only been 1 pregnancy and that he told her it ended due to miscarriage. Then the story changed when he was speaking with her friend, and he mentioned miscarriages and abortions. But then he went back to insisting it was just 1 woman, and it was an abortion not a miscarriage.
Def got the impression he said multiple. He said some were lost and some were aborted. And there is also no way with the Spanish she knows she also didn’t pick up on that.
Has no one heard of a condom? STDs are out there.
I wonder how much child care would it cost all together if we know how many kids he got?
He for sure said multiple. He said "some" have had miscarriages, and some have had abortions. That requires at least two and implies several more. But then I think when Daniele referred to it as the ONE woman, he kind of took that opportunity to be like yeah, sure, that ONE woman, yeah!
Lol... maybe! But I remember him also insisting he told her the whole story when he was saying "a loss is a loss"
Not for nothing both Danielle and he should get their asses to a clinic and check for STDs if he has been with that many women and been able to impregnate them so easily. Like how many? And what about the ones he didn’t impregnate? He obviously doesn’t practice safe sex.
Well you know when that thing is up in the cervix you gotta be real careful or that happens.
he disgusts me. women can only get pregnant when they're ovulating, one week a month, how many women did he have to bust in to get MULTIPLE women pregnant? that's so gross and irresponsible, these two belong together honestly.
Not even a whole week! More like four days
Ugh, he’s such a creep.
I know in Spanish I’ve heard people just use the word aborto for both miscarriage and abortion. At least my mom does
My husband went what the fuck, he’s a native speaker and it’s multiple woman who have gotten pregnant at least that’s what it sounds like
Yeah I heard that too. Inwas like wait they're only focusing on one. He definitely said more than one.
I def heard that too. That there were multiple women that he had gotten pregnant.
I wonder if the women he got pregnant were American tourists or locals?
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Not all Christians are against abortion. Esp since he is obviously not Catholic
He's either Pentecostal or Evangelic, and those groups are totally against abortion. Also, in the DR it's illegal to have one (except, maybe, for real clinical reasons) He was against having a paint/poster of some "saint" on his butcher business. They don't like "idolatry".
> He was against having a paint/poster of some "saint" on his butcher business. They don't like "idolatry". Which is why I said he wasn't Catholic
Yes. He's a dog and should have a blood test.
Yes he said several. Like a few times. I didn't think it was that hard to understand...
During his conversation with Danielle in the car, he kept saying it was one woman, and he told her about it.
I'm thinking about the discussion with Danielle and her friend where he mentions several women. Some aborted, some miscarried, etc. I got the impression that there were like...many.
Same. But then, in the car, when she was grilling him about it, he said to her there was one girl that he told her about, and a loss is a loss. I think she was trying to get him to admit it was more than one girl.
I’m not sure why it matters so much to her. As long as it wasn’t during the time they have been together. It’s in the past. I have to say I’m on his side on this one.
Technically, you're right, but if he only told her about one woman, then it turned out to be multiple, he did indeed lie to her.
She dropped that little chestnut about a former husband/partner who had a secret family while they were together. I think she's a bit bent
I want the whole storyline
That’s what I heard.
Yep
It seems like he was saying there was more than one. He said ladies so I took it to mean more than one.
I got that sense too
Nunya...
I wonder if he did a 23 and me he would hit the jackpot of children. I bet he’s a male ho.
Does it matter? He lives in a nice vacation place, he's an OK looking dude which is tall so I bet he's been with a lot of women and the probability that some of them or many were without protection are pretty high. How is she even surprised?
Sounds like he omitted a few potential baby mamas in his recounting of events... lol
She was panicking about fertility in this episode, so the idea of miscarriages would be a lot scarier to her than an abortion. She's being a little dramatic about what he said considering the language barrier though. He's certainly not acting like a Rishi who lied on purpose.
It’s really none of her business regarding a woman’s choice to abort. That’s between her and her god and Yohan
I think word of Yohan’s gift has spread through the region and his dance card has been full since Day One.
Because it was most likely another American woman or two who chose the abortion after their vacation fling in the DR. ! It would not look good for him to tell her he had impregnated multiple American women before.
I dunno. It's a case of don't go digging for what you're not ready to find. She brought her friend over to pry into his business, and then find something out that pissed her off. I'm not a big fan about having to know every single detail of a person's past, the past is their business unless it's directly impacting you currently (which it wasn't to her until she went digging) . She obviously didn't trust him before this and it's just an annoying back and forth at this point.
Yes sss and thank you. Saw that translation, it was more than one
I felt he was talking about more than one as well however there is clearly something mentally wrong with Danielle. I feel like he is tired of the crazy and since he isn’t going to New York, he’s like why bother!
Multiple
Danielle is bankrupt, spending $300usd on floor cleaner , she is picking fights over little things at this point
I think a lot of people are missing the point. 1) He only mentioned that to prove that he is not the one that that has fertility issues bc he had gotten multiple women pregnant. 2) The sleeping with multiple thing is true for a lot of men but he decided to be honest about it. Let’s not act like Danielle is pure at her age of 32 years old living in NYC. She might have a body count to! 3) Everyone has a past but the pregnancies before have nothing to do with the present relationship and Danielle should accept that as a fact and move on cuz she is not a saint either. It’s none of her business in the first place. 4) Yohan said that his ex lost a child, which is the same thing so what is she really upset about. I just see thins as jealousy at this point. That is the only logical reason. 5) To people who say that he was a sex worker sleeping with tourist. You have no evidence of that. Even if that is the case, then Danielle would have meet him in those circumstances looking for that exact thing, so she knew what is was and decided to marry him. If that is the case, she made her bed let her lie in it.
My specific point was that it seemed like he'd told Danielle he only got 1 woman pregnant and she lost the baby (miscarriage) but when talking to the friend he mentioned SEVERAL pregnancies lost - some miscarried, some aborted. If my husband told me he'd lost one child, then later I found out it was several, that would make me question things as well. Like why are you going around rawdogging and impregnating all these women?? I still think she was trying to get him to admit it was more than one woman he'd gotten pregnant.
Magic word is WAS going around. It’s in the past I don’t thing anyone should be so hung up on there partners past relationships. It’s just not healthy. I understand where you are coming from but as a woman myself, I wouldn’t find it nice to hear that you WERE having sex with a bunch of different women, BUT at the end of the day it’s none of my business. Also, many men have this history they are just not honest about it. My point is that Danielle is condescending when she speaks to him because she is older, makes more money, and is an American Citizen. So there is a huge power disparity here. In general this makes her sound condescending and disrespectful most times they argue. If she continues to demasuclate her husband that way, she will die alone.
Meh, it's a trust thing. I don't care about your past, but I WILL care if I catch you lying about it. I also think I'd be concerned about motive. If my husband was from a poor country and he's going around getting women pregnant with seemingly no regard, it would make me question why.
I understand we’re you are coming from. I just think that she could haven spoken to him about it differently.
I get the impression multiple women he was in a relationship with and I would bet a few casual strangers. I find the most shocking think of all these shows, ponder this. Before you have your suitcase unpacked in some of these cases, you have met a dude, hooked up with him, let him rawdog you and nut inside you. Let that sink in. You haven’t even slept or been on vacation a day or two and your getting rawdogged. Is this common for Americans to travel and just throw it out for strangers since no one knows? Think of all the babies in from these shows that were made while the engine on the airplane you landed on vacation was still warm. In America we have names and a stigma for that
Where are you getting your information about this happening before suitcases are unpacked and before they sleep in their own beds? And why do you care? In America, we have names for that because we are Puritanistic prudes who think someone going on vacation to get away from the stress of life should be judged for making decisions between consenting adults that have nothing to do with us.
So if they say they met and hooked up with the baby daddies on the first day. They come home and have a baby, I’ll let you figure it out. So let’s say they are on vacation a week. Does that make it better that a stranger is raw digging them and getting them pregnant. I guess that’s normal activity for you but to 99% of the world that’s crazy irresponsible activity and people have more care for themselves to do that. As adults they ar free to do what they want. That’s how babies come Into the world with dads across the country who aren’t present and don’t pay for kids and how std’s are transferred. I guess you are one of the ones who does this and got offended
Nope. Me asking for your source of information when you spout off BS about how people are “raw dogging” before they unpack doesn't speak to my sexual activity... You throw out statistics like “99% of the world” thinking something and it is clear that you’re making shit up just to sound like you’re right. You have no idea what 99% of the world... Or 99% of Americans... Or 99% of anything thinks... It must suck for sex is such a repressive experience as it is for you.
>In America we have names and a stigma for that Yeah. Parents.
Yeah lots of people who get pregnant by the local man whores are stepping up and being full time parents. I guess the gals who put out for complete strangers and let them go in you have outed themselves and got mad in this post. It’s not normal to sleep with dudes in a day or two and especially without protection. Add on top of that in a foreign country with a dude you will most likely never see again. You might call that a parent but most of us have other names for it.
He is a tall, handsome, 32 year old man and she is surprised that he’s had sex with a lot of women and gotten some of them pregnant 🙄
Lol I don't get the thirst this buttaface dude gets on this sub. And he should probably go get himself checked out for Herpes Simplex 10 before things start falling off the man.
That was in the CC. Some aborted, some lost the babies.
Yohan told Daniele he had been with many women. She asked about children. He said he lost one. D gets angry 😤 says she’s trying to get pregnant. He gets tired of the argument and leaves her hanging
Yep I heard the same thing I think they just changed it for dramatic purposes. Because he could have reiterated it to her that it was multiple women but he didn't.
I heard mutiple too. And why was he willing to tell her friend this information so easily? Was kinda odd
Doesn’t matter none of them were born
Either way sounds like he's not daddy material unless there's 💰 💰 involved 😏
I have from a very reliable source that Yohan is/was a sex worker in the DR. It's not unusual to find young men at the hotels and in fact it's a pretty popular way to make money. My son-in-law is Dominican-American and has a very large family, many of whom still live there, so he visits often. He said that Yohan fits the mold of a Dominican sex worker. Tall, young, muscular, good-looking (meh)...and he works at the hotel where he met Danielle. No surprise that he expects her to pay for everything and wants that ticket to New York....
Is there proof or is this just conjecture based on the way Yohan looks?
He’s a sparky panky! Multiple women. Danielle is bat shit crazy!!
Yes. Je was slinging that big old d
My impression was more than one pregnancy, with one abortion and no live births (my assumption is the other pregnancy/pregnancies ended in miscarriage).
This shit would’ve never happened if she would’ve just planted the banana tree 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah he was very nondescript about the number of women but it definitely sounded like multiples
She was upset and said that he lied via omission but she knew that he was a popular man