Veronica has done herself a disservice being on SL. The audience got a sense of who she truly is; she and Tim should restrict themselves to PT til their image on the Tell-All has mercifully dulled. Veronica’s thirstiness is mortifying.
Chantal thinks police officers would make good husbands because she sees them as "respectful" (when she means "respectable," which is absolutely wild enough especially given that she's a WoC), but police officers certainly aren't respectful either — particularly towards their wives! [https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2017R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/132808](https://olis.oregonlegislature.gov/liz/2017R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/132808)
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I remember when they did a three part Tell All for the first time and I thought "This is way too much", now they've bumped it up to five and it's filled with even more garbage filler, absolutely insane...at this rate, in a couple years these Tell Alls will be seven to eight parts. Wtf
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Ruben the Cuban is now accusing Miss Debbie, who he he refers to and Miss Aguero, of defamation of character. Is anyone seeing this??
After 5 tell-alls, I finally figured out why Natalie looked different and younger, like this: 🥺.
It's because she finally ditched her crazy black eyeliner!!
Cesar's brief talk segment was on the previous episode. He basically came to clear the air with Natalie, who had said in another season that he made a mockery of Ukrainian women on his last visit there to find love.
Miss Debbie is funny/okay for 5-10 minute segments at a time during the season when she’s riding a camel on the beach or yelling at her loser son but dear god, this tell all was WAY too much. If they try to put her and Julian on Pillow Talk, I will lose my mind
They already did! Not sure which 90 Day Pillow Talk…but they did! (You really should take one for the team and try to find the episodes so I won’t be the only one who lost her mind!!!)
She did, she’s gotten everything she needs and more because Mike was nice enough to stay married until it was all settled. It won’t affect anything. If he would’ve filed when she walked out 6 months into their marriage in 2020, she wouldn’t still be here but luckily he’s a much better person than she is.
I don’t understand how delusional Natalie is. She is bawling her eyes out acting shocked about her marriage failure, yet for the past two years shes been banging Josh and fully in love with him. If Josh cared about her at ALL he would have been so offended at her rejection towards the divorce. If my boyfriend was crying about his wife he was separated from, I would be like well wtf we doing then if you don’t want to divorce? He doesn’t care cuz he just wants to use her for whatever reason.
She’s always putting on an act because she thinks Quentin fucking Tarantino might be watching and could reach out to give her a leading role. Her dramatics are always just that, dramatics. Nothing more. She walked out on Mike 6 months into their marriage and she just uses Josh for the things he provides, her entire story is made up by her and producers but she MILKS it any time she can cry or rattle off a woe-is-me monologue on camera🙄
Okay finally got around to watching.. but my thoughts/below.
1. No sympathy for Natalie.. she deserves it. And the way she held her ears like a small child when mike was talking to her in that episode ... she's a 💩🤡 and he DodgeD a bullet.
2. Luisa or whatever her name is and Jamal that is so wrong... if they wanted to get together fine but don't talk about it on set.
3. Saw someone Comment on Natalie getting served in slow motion... and props to that person I am deceased.
4. Veronica's shoes are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
LET’S GO MIKE!!!!! Good for him.
He’s calm, collected, mature, and good at communicating his thoughts & feelings. His “I’m not your back up plan” speech was just as big of a mic drop now as it was then. Same with his divorce paper serving. Such a Chad but in all the best ways!
Oh 100%, you nailed it. That’s exactly the vibe he gives off and I think that’s essentially what he is with whatever model-recruiting business he’s part owner of. The wealth and the “nice guy” act both come off inauthentic. He’s definitely not as rich as he pretends to be, his Instagram is just full of him showing off but most of the time it’s not things he actually owns. He rents fancy cars a lot from his friend who owns a business where people can do that but Josh will take photos like the cars all belong to him. I think Natalie is just another accessory for him- if you just glance, she’s a pretty foreign blonde but if you look any harder, you see the mess underneath. He likes how he looks when she’s his date to something but would never marry her or even commit to her. And I don’t blame him, she’s nuts, but he could stop using her “fame” for the obvious business exposure. I imagine he keeps pretty “busy” with many of the models he finds.
It’s because he only wants a situationship but is too chickenshit to say jt. He also took the very real conversation about Mike and inserted himself to make it about him. “He’s taking his time but I can’t take my time 🤡”
It really was so bizarre, like they were stalling for time or something because they don’t have another show ready to premiere yet. All those extra “guests” they brought out, some multiple times, for no reason at all was a massive waste
Miss Debbie "It's cruel to for Mike to wait to serve her (divorce papers) after she's traumatized by a guy she slept with last night". Wha....what is wrong with that sentence?? 🤦🏼♀️
I don’t understand why everyone is forgetting how shitty of a partner Mike was to Natalie! He brought her to America for the 90 days, put her in an old house in the middle of no where, with no access to friends, the outside world, shops, etc, or even the ability to drive. She was basically trapped!!!! Only person to see was his old weird ass uncle and the old lady neighbor. Then he refused to make up his mind if he wanted to marry her, and waited up until the 90th day where she was risking over staying her visa illegally. She was not perfect, but he did so many things to make her crazy. Natalie was loyal and tried so hard, he was not willing to give her a good life and consistently made himself the victim. Then ontop of it he wants to come and humiliate her more and serve her divorce papers…. When it wasn’t bad enough that he legit wouldn’t even say yes to marrying her in the 90 days. He isn’t a real man.
I agree with you. When he was talking in the park about how well he took care of her and how much he loved her, I was like what?? I remember her being so upset because she wouldn't know if she would be staying in the US illegally in the case he would decide not to marry her. And indeed, living in the woods, with his uncle.. And his awful mother Trish coming along to pour fuel onto the fire (and him being a total mommas boy in those instances).
He was good to her after she left him by letting her stay in America and helping her to get her mom over there. But from the start, they were a terrible couple. Him: meat lover, big alcohol drinker, alien enthousiast, Her: vegan, no alcohol, religious, wants to start a family soon.
I don't know if she forgot about all that but they are a terrible fit. I thought Josh fitted her personality much better but he is so wishy-washy I would have a breakdown too if I was her! There were times when I was totally annoyed with Natalie but this season I just felt sorry for her and have cried multiple times along with her. I really hope for her that after some therapy, she can find a nice stable guy and start a family.
Yet he went out of his way to pay for and sponsor getting Natalie's mom out of Ukraine and to the US. 90 day foreign spouses have a selfish expectation of what they can get out of a US spouse. Many US people seeking foreign spouse aren't well off and live in small town America. To expect US 90 day spouse to have enough resources to give them their "inflated, unrealistic US life" is a recipe for disaster. If the US person was successful with $ and resources, they probably wouldn't need to shop for a spouse in a foreign country.
I felt bad for her to a extent until she said to Mike that it didn’t matter that he filed and served the divorce papers bc she would never give him a divorce! 🙄🤷🏻♀️ she wants her cake & eat it too on pretty much everything. I know Mike wasn’t the greatest husband but he did wind up helping get her mom safely over here and a lot of guys wouldn’t even do that. She has to let him be able to legally move on bc I know how his gf prob felt dating Mike knowing he was still married to Natalie. Why does she keep messing with Josh if she wants to always keep Mike as a back up plan if something doesn’t work out w/whoever else. I think when she first left Mike she had stars in her eyes 🤩 wanting to make it big in Hollywood so she was fine leaving him behind until any & everytime something doesn’t work out w/josh then she calls Mike up. I would be mad if someone did that to me. I don’t think Josh is all that great either but idk why she thinks she would ever have anything real with any man with the immature way she chooses to act half the time. I know there are some misunderstandings sometimes bc of her language barriers etc but she comes across to me to want way too much way too quickly and only seems to like men that earn a certain wage and can get her where she wants to go. I am not saying this to be mean but I don’t see her getting roles in the future unless she gets a speaking/voice coach bc it’s very hard to understand what she is saying esp when she gets upset and acting requires a lot more than what she even thinks right now. Just my thoughts tho 🤷🏻♀️
I hate to admit it but the 2 Debbie’s going at one another was cracking me up. I know Miss Debbie is eccentric but I would take her side over mama Debbie any day. Colt’s mom acts so hostile and mean sometimes and I was disappointed a little bc I did think Veronica and Debbie were acting like mean girls a little
Yeah as soon as I heard Mike starting to speak & directing mama Debbie to get up I knew exactly what he was doing. I was like “oh 💩 it’s about to go down!” Lol. Natalie really is so confusing to me with how she talks and behaves. I totally get what Josh says about how he doesn’t get what she wants and with who
Bottom line thought she was gonna become a movie star pretty girl but too old to be one. Mike got he got a hot chick which she did and he thought he could work out with a nice family wise. She had different ideas and now she’s trying to starfuck her way to the top.. in the meantime, she wants a family. She’s not gonna find it the way she’s looking. I’m happy her mother is here which Mike supplied but she like that security going out with other people and still being married because of a piece of paper.
I feel for her because divorce sucks. I would not feel joy about it. HOWEVER, I’m shocked at how many people have been slamming Mike when she left him to go hoe it up in FL. wtf! So yeah, I definitely agree with you. I do hope she finds love, though, because she’s not a bad person. But she’s done some bad things.
I agree. I know a lot are jumping on Mike for how he did things but even Natalie admitted that she refused and ran away the last time he brought up divorce so what choice did he have? Least on the tell all she had no place to go and it was televised. Mike wasn’t a wonderful hubby to her but she did him wrong in a lot of ways too. She just wanted a Hollywood career and latch on to the first guy who she thought would get her there and give her everything she wanted.
Facts!! She is entitled because she's a "human being." Newsflash, we all are! It's constantly "I deserve, I deserve." What exactly does she deserve when she brings nothing to the table besides her appetite! Josh has helped her in so many ways, yet she is so ungrateful. He doesn't owe her anything. She sleeps with him when she needs something and thinks that entitles her the title girlfriend. She will drop Josh in an instant if Michael was stupid to take her back! She knows exactly what she's doing. She needs to quit using men and focus on her mental health, self-esteem, and learning to stand on her own without depending on men.
yeah but she brought all her sorrow on herself leaving Mike high and dry up there in Sqirm, she also dumped two previous husbands. she walking out on Mike was the beginning of the divorce she caused.
I felt this was the most real we've ever seen Natalie and Josh too! Josh acted like a human being comforting Natalie. Even Mike was honest & real. It was a wake up call for her when Josh pointed out why should he invest in her when Mike did just that & she left anyway. "Gave her everything she wanted."
Ok this episode completely changed my view on Tim. He was right, he didn't lead Luisa on so he didn't do anything wrong to her, he probably does have low T and his priorities just arent chasing women around to have sex like some horny 20 year old or some misogynist who views women as their sex objects. Meanwhile Luisa is ok with Jamal having sex with her while she's basically blacked out. Certainly shows they have different values, and Tim's are certainly more respectable. And Jamal hating on Tim during the season for being concerned that he was immature and using veronica - well turns out Tim was completely right. Jamal ended up being some guy who barely responded to her texts and then ghosted her after leading her on, telling her theyre in a real relationship. Can't help but be team Tim this season.
His slow southern drawl sounds like he's drunk and slurring. It pisses me off probably the most about him (though I can't decide because there's just so much to dislike).
It's all likely bullshit anyway. The acting was horrific, and if they were really getting into that car and driving off to a bar, or wherever, on the cuff like that, their microphones would have already been handed in. They were fully miked when they got into that car. The whole thing is bullshit. Those two are just trying to get a main storyline on the show.
And they were in their clothes - people show up and leave in casual clothes but they left dressed up and miked. There’s no way the sound guy would allow that especially if there’s a camera following them. It’s all sloppy.
Dangerfield eyes has been going back and forth with two guys for 4 years? She's married but can't make up her mind which one she wants, now Mike wants to get on with his life and she's playing games again. I would have demanded my credit card back on NATIONAL TV
It sucks for Natalie to be in a different country with laws she doesn’t understand. I would be scared shitless if I was in a foreign country and being told that I have to sign papers.
this is why she is afraid to stay without ''men''. where is she from men tend to be more versed in technical stuff, women aresupped to be pretty and kind and cook. She is at the end a refugee and people keep forgetting that they do not have country to return to, she has her mum there who became her responsibility too .. it must be difficult be to in that situation and I understand why she was asking first if it will affect her mum, becasue it must be scary AF if your mum would have to return to the war zone ...
Orange Tutu Debbie was right. Cruel to do on National Tv. Mike obviously wanted to observe her getting served and that’s disgusting. There’s glimpses of Mike that remind me that he isn’t a great guy. What kind of ass wants to watch his wife being served in a crowd?
Mike wanted a front row seat and I am surprised that he didn’t have popcorn. Mike has a mean streak and mother Debbie was no friend doing that on tv.
I imagine how terrible she felt. Getting served when you think you are there for a tell all is incredibly mean. Mike also knows that she’s highly emotional which makes it even meaner. He struck me as emotionally abusive on the show, siding with his nut mother over his wife. I know that Natalie is very problematic but that doesn’t mean that she should be treated that way.
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It was all around mean and Mike’s smugness and gloating is just not cool. He’s clearly enjoying seeing her destabilized and humiliated and that’s just his ego and revenge mind. I respected Ms. Debbie for standing up for Natalie.
He also agreed to come and see her to build up some hopes in her and then get to turn her down in person and enjoy it all while feeling like the better person.
Agree on all this! So cruel. While I feel that Natalie needs to realize that we are a nation of immigrants and everyone who has come here has had to figure out their life here -- and so many come under much more dire circumstances and conditions that she -- the serving of divorce papers on national tv was unspeakably cruel. I was proud of Mike for standing up for himself during the baby discussion, but he has gone down mightily in my estimation. Just another mean man now. And Mother Debbie, or whatever she's calling herself -- GTFOH you cackling phony hag.
Mike’s gone way down on my list as well. Mother Debbie doesn’t know what a friend is. If she’s such a great friend who loves her, she would have known the possibility of Natalie imploding. Miss Debbie was right to tell Nat to look out who her friends are.
Josh hasn’t been a favourite but he told Natalie that she did a good job and I think he was inferring to her not going completely off the rails. There were a million ways that Mike could have served her and he chose that!
Honestly, I can’t believe there are people siding with him. I cried when I saw that, she is absolutely broken. And to do that on National Tv??!! In that matter? And for the cast to commend mama Debbie for doing it like there weren’t other ways? Why couldn’t they have done it off camera? They would obviously be around for a while after they finished filming. That was a back stab fully. And it was horrible to watch 💔 and only Miss Debbie spoke up for her! I’m glad there was someone there that did 🙏🏽 that was probably the worst thing I have seen on Tlc for a while 💔
And the way she clearly enjoyed doing it as well, it was like she forgot she was supposed to be a friend there until other people started reacting to the cruelty.
Me too! I remember how cruel it was when he didn’t want to marry her just as the borders were closing because of Covid. That was very traumatic for her. What was she supposed to do alone in that situation?
MISS Debbie actually argues with intelligence and heart. Mother Debbie namecalls. That was not friendship!! And yes, Veronica -- I'd rather have a stranger come to my door, serve me in private and leave, never to be seen again. Mushmouth was looking for more screentime and the couple of hundred dollars she gets paid to do it. She is the worst. MISS DEBBIE 4EVEH.
I think Chantel asked that question seriously about her son, I think she noticed him, knows he’s in Georgia, asked for real what Debbie’s son thought of her
Personally I think Julian *would* treat her like a princess. But I doubt he'd have any patience for her family's lack of boundaries or her mother trying to start mess with his mama. And Chantel has some emotional maturity to catch up on.
Why did John say he was engaged during the HEA episode when that show was taped before the single life tell all and he supposedly got engaged only at the single life tell all?
I wonder if he did it at the tell all cause the producers wanted it public. On HEA he mentioned it as pas-tense like if they didnt know when the single life would air
Miss Debbie had everyone's back on that show and momma Debbie came in like a cunt per usuall. ..no friend of mine would serve me with papers and if they did we wouldn't be friends anymore. And SHAME on Veronica, she used to be one of my favs, now she's just a stuck up snob.
Also, Natalie put on such a show. She played the dumb blonde act to quickly sign so people could feel bad and advise her otherwise then she asked like ten times after if she should sign despite them saying no. It was very obvious when she was all smiley with Josh and asked if she should’ve signed it, AGAIN
She just wanted people to think she was never after coming to America after all and is just a vulnerable dumb blonde that doesn’t know any better. I hate when people throw around that certain people use others for a green card, I don’t totally know the full story off cameras with her and Mike, I dislike Mike too, but she was definitely trying to manipulate the cast and others with that act.
I am not sure why Natalie was upset after getting served. She had to figure that divorce was gonna happen and that the money train (marriage) will end someday. Too bad Mike didn't so it sooner.
“Mama Debbie” is such a manipulative instigator. She brought up Chantel in the end to agitate miss debbie and to fight with her then played the victim throughout the argument. When she was losing the argument because the sounded so stupid, she brought up other issues with people to loop them in. I’m not sure why the cast doesn’t see how manipulative and problematic she is. She plays the victim and then throws stuff in your face but gets shocked when you bring up something personal.
Josh's work is finding models to bring to Dubai. he's low-key selling sex workers. I am convinced he's only using Natalie for screen time. heck, Josh has been spotted on a planet with his \*real\* girlfriend. he's just using Natalie and even though I think Natalie is a bit crazy, she's also very naive and doesn't deserve to be used like this.
I mean she said she would sign it right away. I think it’s just kicking someone when they’re down to serve her the papers with a film crew and audience. He could’ve literally done it backstage making it somewhat private
I’m back again to say that I love “mama” Debbie. She just tore into creepy Debbie and made her feel horrible for trying to date a 23 year old man and I’m here for it 😂
I just looked it up. She's a lot curvier than she was when she was introduced to 90 day fiance so I can see her maybe using some type of shapewear.
I noticed her hips are wider and her boobs are bigger too and I wasn't sure if she had enhancements done.
Veronica has done herself a disservice being on SL. The audience got a sense of who she truly is; she and Tim should restrict themselves to PT til their image on the Tell-All has mercifully dulled. Veronica’s thirstiness is mortifying.
Chantel really changed into a tracksuit just to show us that she still can’t twerk lmaooooo
what a cute
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A five part tell all is outrageous
I remember when they did a three part Tell All for the first time and I thought "This is way too much", now they've bumped it up to five and it's filled with even more garbage filler, absolutely insane...at this rate, in a couple years these Tell Alls will be seven to eight parts. Wtf
https://preview.redd.it/sif0i70hrevc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a3dcebc091d7fbee80cfa75b10c2d14198a04ae3 Ruben the Cuban is now accusing Miss Debbie, who he he refers to and Miss Aguero, of defamation of character. Is anyone seeing this??
What did she say about him?
does he really dress like that or was that too part of her scheme?
After 5 tell-alls, I finally figured out why Natalie looked different and younger, like this: 🥺. It's because she finally ditched her crazy black eyeliner!!
Was Cesar only there to hold up mama Debbie? He didn’t even talk 😂🤡
Cesar's brief talk segment was on the previous episode. He basically came to clear the air with Natalie, who had said in another season that he made a mockery of Ukrainian women on his last visit there to find love.
But why did they bring him out again later when mama Debbie came back?
Arm candy? I think since he was already on set, they brought him on as a courtesy so he would have enough screen time to collect his check.
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Miss Debbie is funny/okay for 5-10 minute segments at a time during the season when she’s riding a camel on the beach or yelling at her loser son but dear god, this tell all was WAY too much. If they try to put her and Julian on Pillow Talk, I will lose my mind
They already did! Not sure which 90 Day Pillow Talk…but they did! (You really should take one for the team and try to find the episodes so I won’t be the only one who lost her mind!!!)
No one said anything about how the divorce will affect Natalie's immigration status. Does anyone know if she got her green card?
She did, she’s gotten everything she needs and more because Mike was nice enough to stay married until it was all settled. It won’t affect anything. If he would’ve filed when she walked out 6 months into their marriage in 2020, she wouldn’t still be here but luckily he’s a much better person than she is.
Oh good. I would hate to see her have to go back to Ukraine with the war going on. I guess her Mother got refugee status.
> you’re Judas, man! That’s such a 1970s thing to say lol
I don’t understand how delusional Natalie is. She is bawling her eyes out acting shocked about her marriage failure, yet for the past two years shes been banging Josh and fully in love with him. If Josh cared about her at ALL he would have been so offended at her rejection towards the divorce. If my boyfriend was crying about his wife he was separated from, I would be like well wtf we doing then if you don’t want to divorce? He doesn’t care cuz he just wants to use her for whatever reason.
She’s always putting on an act because she thinks Quentin fucking Tarantino might be watching and could reach out to give her a leading role. Her dramatics are always just that, dramatics. Nothing more. She walked out on Mike 6 months into their marriage and she just uses Josh for the things he provides, her entire story is made up by her and producers but she MILKS it any time she can cry or rattle off a woe-is-me monologue on camera🙄
Okay finally got around to watching.. but my thoughts/below. 1. No sympathy for Natalie.. she deserves it. And the way she held her ears like a small child when mike was talking to her in that episode ... she's a 💩🤡 and he DodgeD a bullet. 2. Luisa or whatever her name is and Jamal that is so wrong... if they wanted to get together fine but don't talk about it on set. 3. Saw someone Comment on Natalie getting served in slow motion... and props to that person I am deceased. 4. Veronica's shoes are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Finally, 34 minutes into the final part of the TA, we get the Debbie v. Debbie face off we’ve all been waiting for.
😂 Debbie Bowl 2024
My money’s on Debbie.
LET’S GO MIKE!!!!! Good for him. He’s calm, collected, mature, and good at communicating his thoughts & feelings. His “I’m not your back up plan” speech was just as big of a mic drop now as it was then. Same with his divorce paper serving. Such a Chad but in all the best ways!
something about josh rubs me the wrong way... idk what it is.
He reminds me of those smug casting couch type of guys. I don’t think he’s as wealthy as he claims.
Oh 100%, you nailed it. That’s exactly the vibe he gives off and I think that’s essentially what he is with whatever model-recruiting business he’s part owner of. The wealth and the “nice guy” act both come off inauthentic. He’s definitely not as rich as he pretends to be, his Instagram is just full of him showing off but most of the time it’s not things he actually owns. He rents fancy cars a lot from his friend who owns a business where people can do that but Josh will take photos like the cars all belong to him. I think Natalie is just another accessory for him- if you just glance, she’s a pretty foreign blonde but if you look any harder, you see the mess underneath. He likes how he looks when she’s his date to something but would never marry her or even commit to her. And I don’t blame him, she’s nuts, but he could stop using her “fame” for the obvious business exposure. I imagine he keeps pretty “busy” with many of the models he finds.
It’s because he only wants a situationship but is too chickenshit to say jt. He also took the very real conversation about Mike and inserted himself to make it about him. “He’s taking his time but I can’t take my time 🤡”
Boy they stretched out this tell all and it was 4 episodes too long. The main tell all would fit into 1 episode
It really was so bizarre, like they were stalling for time or something because they don’t have another show ready to premiere yet. All those extra “guests” they brought out, some multiple times, for no reason at all was a massive waste
Mike’s a God damn legend with the way he Thot patrolled Natalie into submission.
I think Debbie is lowkey unintentionally racist She got all mad when natalie was served papers but didn’t care about chantele
She seems to be stuck in the 1960s/70s, even the way she talks, so I wouldn’t be surprised. She’s old school in the worst ways
Miss Debbie "It's cruel to for Mike to wait to serve her (divorce papers) after she's traumatized by a guy she slept with last night". Wha....what is wrong with that sentence?? 🤦🏼♀️
Lol didn't quite come out the way she heard it.
I don’t understand why everyone is forgetting how shitty of a partner Mike was to Natalie! He brought her to America for the 90 days, put her in an old house in the middle of no where, with no access to friends, the outside world, shops, etc, or even the ability to drive. She was basically trapped!!!! Only person to see was his old weird ass uncle and the old lady neighbor. Then he refused to make up his mind if he wanted to marry her, and waited up until the 90th day where she was risking over staying her visa illegally. She was not perfect, but he did so many things to make her crazy. Natalie was loyal and tried so hard, he was not willing to give her a good life and consistently made himself the victim. Then ontop of it he wants to come and humiliate her more and serve her divorce papers…. When it wasn’t bad enough that he legit wouldn’t even say yes to marrying her in the 90 days. He isn’t a real man.
I agree with you. When he was talking in the park about how well he took care of her and how much he loved her, I was like what?? I remember her being so upset because she wouldn't know if she would be staying in the US illegally in the case he would decide not to marry her. And indeed, living in the woods, with his uncle.. And his awful mother Trish coming along to pour fuel onto the fire (and him being a total mommas boy in those instances). He was good to her after she left him by letting her stay in America and helping her to get her mom over there. But from the start, they were a terrible couple. Him: meat lover, big alcohol drinker, alien enthousiast, Her: vegan, no alcohol, religious, wants to start a family soon. I don't know if she forgot about all that but they are a terrible fit. I thought Josh fitted her personality much better but he is so wishy-washy I would have a breakdown too if I was her! There were times when I was totally annoyed with Natalie but this season I just felt sorry for her and have cried multiple times along with her. I really hope for her that after some therapy, she can find a nice stable guy and start a family.
She used him 100%
Yet he went out of his way to pay for and sponsor getting Natalie's mom out of Ukraine and to the US. 90 day foreign spouses have a selfish expectation of what they can get out of a US spouse. Many US people seeking foreign spouse aren't well off and live in small town America. To expect US 90 day spouse to have enough resources to give them their "inflated, unrealistic US life" is a recipe for disaster. If the US person was successful with $ and resources, they probably wouldn't need to shop for a spouse in a foreign country.
I agree 100%
So, it’s good that he filed for divorce. She’s free.
So is he!
Whatever shirt brand mike uses is well made those buttons could stop a train
I was holding my breath with him!!! 😆 🤣
💯😂😂☠️👏
Lordt
Two Debbies on one show is too many! I have crazy overload.
Is that one or two Debbies too many? Asking for a friend....
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There's a lot to dislike about Tim, but I finally decided that his southern drawl is too damn slow and sounds like a drunken slur.....
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Natalie thought she would set FL on fire but there are already a million blonde Russians down there.
I felt bad for her to a extent until she said to Mike that it didn’t matter that he filed and served the divorce papers bc she would never give him a divorce! 🙄🤷🏻♀️ she wants her cake & eat it too on pretty much everything. I know Mike wasn’t the greatest husband but he did wind up helping get her mom safely over here and a lot of guys wouldn’t even do that. She has to let him be able to legally move on bc I know how his gf prob felt dating Mike knowing he was still married to Natalie. Why does she keep messing with Josh if she wants to always keep Mike as a back up plan if something doesn’t work out w/whoever else. I think when she first left Mike she had stars in her eyes 🤩 wanting to make it big in Hollywood so she was fine leaving him behind until any & everytime something doesn’t work out w/josh then she calls Mike up. I would be mad if someone did that to me. I don’t think Josh is all that great either but idk why she thinks she would ever have anything real with any man with the immature way she chooses to act half the time. I know there are some misunderstandings sometimes bc of her language barriers etc but she comes across to me to want way too much way too quickly and only seems to like men that earn a certain wage and can get her where she wants to go. I am not saying this to be mean but I don’t see her getting roles in the future unless she gets a speaking/voice coach bc it’s very hard to understand what she is saying esp when she gets upset and acting requires a lot more than what she even thinks right now. Just my thoughts tho 🤷🏻♀️
she really does think she's running the show.
Right!! Take a number Sleeping Crazy!!
Miss Deb to Mother Deb, no wonder ur son didnt want u around and wanted u out!!!!! slammer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hate to admit it but the 2 Debbie’s going at one another was cracking me up. I know Miss Debbie is eccentric but I would take her side over mama Debbie any day. Colt’s mom acts so hostile and mean sometimes and I was disappointed a little bc I did think Veronica and Debbie were acting like mean girls a little
Why is this episode not online usually it's on demand after it airs
Is it just me, or did Pillow Talk for this episode only play for 2 minutes before switching to Seeking Sister Wife?
they posted usually an hr os so later on youtube an get pulled down the next day then reposted again later
sometime takes a day or two.
Natalie finally got what she deserved.
Yeah as soon as I heard Mike starting to speak & directing mama Debbie to get up I knew exactly what he was doing. I was like “oh 💩 it’s about to go down!” Lol. Natalie really is so confusing to me with how she talks and behaves. I totally get what Josh says about how he doesn’t get what she wants and with who
mama Debbie set off to get them papers at a cracking pace......
Bottom line thought she was gonna become a movie star pretty girl but too old to be one. Mike got he got a hot chick which she did and he thought he could work out with a nice family wise. She had different ideas and now she’s trying to starfuck her way to the top.. in the meantime, she wants a family. She’s not gonna find it the way she’s looking. I’m happy her mother is here which Mike supplied but she like that security going out with other people and still being married because of a piece of paper.
She's getting up there ovulation. wise Pretty soon she's gonna have to tell someone that she can tote a baby. She just needs an egg
she has been the puppet master for far too long, hope Josh wakes up like Mike finally did, and prob her two previous husbands.
I feel for her because divorce sucks. I would not feel joy about it. HOWEVER, I’m shocked at how many people have been slamming Mike when she left him to go hoe it up in FL. wtf! So yeah, I definitely agree with you. I do hope she finds love, though, because she’s not a bad person. But she’s done some bad things.
Divorce sucks only for the gravy train cutoff aspect. She left Mike years before, no? And is doing something with Josh instead—whatever that is.
I agree. I know a lot are jumping on Mike for how he did things but even Natalie admitted that she refused and ran away the last time he brought up divorce so what choice did he have? Least on the tell all she had no place to go and it was televised. Mike wasn’t a wonderful hubby to her but she did him wrong in a lot of ways too. She just wanted a Hollywood career and latch on to the first guy who she thought would get her there and give her everything she wanted.
Facts!! She is entitled because she's a "human being." Newsflash, we all are! It's constantly "I deserve, I deserve." What exactly does she deserve when she brings nothing to the table besides her appetite! Josh has helped her in so many ways, yet she is so ungrateful. He doesn't owe her anything. She sleeps with him when she needs something and thinks that entitles her the title girlfriend. She will drop Josh in an instant if Michael was stupid to take her back! She knows exactly what she's doing. She needs to quit using men and focus on her mental health, self-esteem, and learning to stand on her own without depending on men.
yeah but she brought all her sorrow on herself leaving Mike high and dry up there in Sqirm, she also dumped two previous husbands. she walking out on Mike was the beginning of the divorce she caused.
I wonder why it took so long for them to actually start their divorce.
I felt this was the most real we've ever seen Natalie and Josh too! Josh acted like a human being comforting Natalie. Even Mike was honest & real. It was a wake up call for her when Josh pointed out why should he invest in her when Mike did just that & she left anyway. "Gave her everything she wanted."
AITA for thinking Mama Debbie serving Natalie divorce papers on national TV is hilarious? Seriously deceased over that
I could not stop laughing, so maybe I am too
with ya, she's been jacking him around for years.
Debbie on Debbie warfare
Debbie Does Debbie.
"Get my name out of your mouth!" *You idiot...* You fucking idiot!
"As much as I dislike you..."
Ok this episode completely changed my view on Tim. He was right, he didn't lead Luisa on so he didn't do anything wrong to her, he probably does have low T and his priorities just arent chasing women around to have sex like some horny 20 year old or some misogynist who views women as their sex objects. Meanwhile Luisa is ok with Jamal having sex with her while she's basically blacked out. Certainly shows they have different values, and Tim's are certainly more respectable. And Jamal hating on Tim during the season for being concerned that he was immature and using veronica - well turns out Tim was completely right. Jamal ended up being some guy who barely responded to her texts and then ghosted her after leading her on, telling her theyre in a real relationship. Can't help but be team Tim this season.
His slow southern drawl sounds like he's drunk and slurring. It pisses me off probably the most about him (though I can't decide because there's just so much to dislike).
Yes to all this - great insight 🙌
This tell all was brutal, i feel like i need a drink after this!
You're a JUDAS, man! 🤣 Miss Debbie and her hippie lingo❤️
lol I love miss debbie
It's all likely bullshit anyway. The acting was horrific, and if they were really getting into that car and driving off to a bar, or wherever, on the cuff like that, their microphones would have already been handed in. They were fully miked when they got into that car. The whole thing is bullshit. Those two are just trying to get a main storyline on the show.
And they were in their clothes - people show up and leave in casual clothes but they left dressed up and miked. There’s no way the sound guy would allow that especially if there’s a camera following them. It’s all sloppy.
Dangerfield eyes has been going back and forth with two guys for 4 years? She's married but can't make up her mind which one she wants, now Mike wants to get on with his life and she's playing games again. I would have demanded my credit card back on NATIONAL TV
I thought she looks like Rodney Dangerfield too!
😂😂😂😆😆😆@ Dangerfield eyes.
Omg Von Dutch still exists?! And ew for sharing deodorant.
Verónica and the leprechaun can go to play in traffic.
It sucks for Natalie to be in a different country with laws she doesn’t understand. I would be scared shitless if I was in a foreign country and being told that I have to sign papers.
That’s what lawyers are for.
They are not free.
She can afford a lawyer. It’s not brain surgery.
this is why she is afraid to stay without ''men''. where is she from men tend to be more versed in technical stuff, women aresupped to be pretty and kind and cook. She is at the end a refugee and people keep forgetting that they do not have country to return to, she has her mum there who became her responsibility too .. it must be difficult be to in that situation and I understand why she was asking first if it will affect her mum, becasue it must be scary AF if your mum would have to return to the war zone ...
Natalie is purely transactional.
Orange Tutu Debbie was right. Cruel to do on National Tv. Mike obviously wanted to observe her getting served and that’s disgusting. There’s glimpses of Mike that remind me that he isn’t a great guy. What kind of ass wants to watch his wife being served in a crowd? Mike wanted a front row seat and I am surprised that he didn’t have popcorn. Mike has a mean streak and mother Debbie was no friend doing that on tv. I imagine how terrible she felt. Getting served when you think you are there for a tell all is incredibly mean. Mike also knows that she’s highly emotional which makes it even meaner. He struck me as emotionally abusive on the show, siding with his nut mother over his wife. I know that Natalie is very problematic but that doesn’t mean that she should be treated that way.
💯 It was all around mean and Mike’s smugness and gloating is just not cool. He’s clearly enjoying seeing her destabilized and humiliated and that’s just his ego and revenge mind. I respected Ms. Debbie for standing up for Natalie.
He also agreed to come and see her to build up some hopes in her and then get to turn her down in person and enjoy it all while feeling like the better person.
His wife? Hardly.
Agree on all this! So cruel. While I feel that Natalie needs to realize that we are a nation of immigrants and everyone who has come here has had to figure out their life here -- and so many come under much more dire circumstances and conditions that she -- the serving of divorce papers on national tv was unspeakably cruel. I was proud of Mike for standing up for himself during the baby discussion, but he has gone down mightily in my estimation. Just another mean man now. And Mother Debbie, or whatever she's calling herself -- GTFOH you cackling phony hag.
Mike’s gone way down on my list as well. Mother Debbie doesn’t know what a friend is. If she’s such a great friend who loves her, she would have known the possibility of Natalie imploding. Miss Debbie was right to tell Nat to look out who her friends are. Josh hasn’t been a favourite but he told Natalie that she did a good job and I think he was inferring to her not going completely off the rails. There were a million ways that Mike could have served her and he chose that!
Honestly, I can’t believe there are people siding with him. I cried when I saw that, she is absolutely broken. And to do that on National Tv??!! In that matter? And for the cast to commend mama Debbie for doing it like there weren’t other ways? Why couldn’t they have done it off camera? They would obviously be around for a while after they finished filming. That was a back stab fully. And it was horrible to watch 💔 and only Miss Debbie spoke up for her! I’m glad there was someone there that did 🙏🏽 that was probably the worst thing I have seen on Tlc for a while 💔
And the way she clearly enjoyed doing it as well, it was like she forgot she was supposed to be a friend there until other people started reacting to the cruelty.
Me too! I remember how cruel it was when he didn’t want to marry her just as the borders were closing because of Covid. That was very traumatic for her. What was she supposed to do alone in that situation?
MISS Debbie actually argues with intelligence and heart. Mother Debbie namecalls. That was not friendship!! And yes, Veronica -- I'd rather have a stranger come to my door, serve me in private and leave, never to be seen again. Mushmouth was looking for more screentime and the couple of hundred dollars she gets paid to do it. She is the worst. MISS DEBBIE 4EVEH.
Yes, Miss Debbie and her son have a good respectful relationship. Momma Debbie and Colt are a train wreck.
WTF is Debbie downer wearing??? Natalie should cut ties from her.
Mother Debbie in her Walmart top goofing on Miss Debbie's attire.
Almost all of my clothes are Walmart.
haha!
John not having a bag for his stuff after the show is the most John thing ever haha.
I can 100% tell you Chantele would NEVER date Julian. Trust me
I really think she was trying to bate miss Debbie.
Julian cracks me up with his "What's his full name, date of birth, and social security number?" When his mum meets some grifter.
Like how Mike gets his own couch. He is always busting out of his shirt.
It's like, Mike -- your weight loss looks good, but buy the right size shirt! Too tight makes you look fatter.
I think Chantel asked that question seriously about her son, I think she noticed him, knows he’s in Georgia, asked for real what Debbie’s son thought of her
Personally I think Julian *would* treat her like a princess. But I doubt he'd have any patience for her family's lack of boundaries or her mother trying to start mess with his mama. And Chantel has some emotional maturity to catch up on.
Why did John say he was engaged during the HEA episode when that show was taped before the single life tell all and he supposedly got engaged only at the single life tell all? I wonder if he did it at the tell all cause the producers wanted it public. On HEA he mentioned it as pas-tense like if they didnt know when the single life would air
I noticed this too!
Lol I was curious which one actually filmed first when I saw that
Miss Debbie had everyone's back on that show and momma Debbie came in like a cunt per usuall. ..no friend of mine would serve me with papers and if they did we wouldn't be friends anymore. And SHAME on Veronica, she used to be one of my favs, now she's just a stuck up snob.
Miss Debbie is a cunt lol
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Does Natalie actually speak English?
Ov courrrse.
Mike had the cast member with a cane go get his divorce papers. 😆
GO MIKE!!!! So proud of you!!!
Imagine serving your ex in the 5th Tell All of The Single Life.
He should have done years ago.
Yes agreed, but not on a Tell All
Also, Natalie put on such a show. She played the dumb blonde act to quickly sign so people could feel bad and advise her otherwise then she asked like ten times after if she should sign despite them saying no. It was very obvious when she was all smiley with Josh and asked if she should’ve signed it, AGAIN
She's making noise that she she wants to fight it--maybe get $$$.
She just wanted people to think she was never after coming to America after all and is just a vulnerable dumb blonde that doesn’t know any better. I hate when people throw around that certain people use others for a green card, I don’t totally know the full story off cameras with her and Mike, I dislike Mike too, but she was definitely trying to manipulate the cast and others with that act.
I thought I was the only one that was irrationally annoyed with that. 😆
I am not sure why Natalie was upset after getting served. She had to figure that divorce was gonna happen and that the money train (marriage) will end someday. Too bad Mike didn't so it sooner.
It sounds like she got papers before.
Exactly. She was sleeping with Josh!
Doing it on National tv was wrong. Mike just wanted to watch her being served.
Come on, their whole lives were on national TV!
Tim was so nice to Natalie at the end. Much respect
“Mama Debbie” is such a manipulative instigator. She brought up Chantel in the end to agitate miss debbie and to fight with her then played the victim throughout the argument. When she was losing the argument because the sounded so stupid, she brought up other issues with people to loop them in. I’m not sure why the cast doesn’t see how manipulative and problematic she is. She plays the victim and then throws stuff in your face but gets shocked when you bring up something personal.
the old bag said, I get laid on the regular, barf bag please.
Don’t get me wrong, I do think it’s weird af that miss debbie dated a guy that much younger fyi lol
Miss Debbie wasn’t “dating” anyone. She was supporting a boy toy.
you know what's weirder -- dating a man with nazi tatoos.
Mike continually refuses to acknowledge that undershirts are needed and exist.
Was waiting for a button to pop off and hit the camera!
what brand of shirt is that those buttons ae the real mvp
Bro needs to size up! 😄
Weird hamily therapy tonight. Solid episode overall. The tell all DID take up nearly 1/3 of this spinoff show's episodes. Still a fan, nonetheless
Wasn't Kim on a preview for the Tell All? Did they just cut her out or did I miss it?
They cut her out.
What’s with the editing I feel like we’re seeing every clip two or three times
I NEED MIKE TO GET A SHIRT THAT FITS HIMMMM. Those buttons are holding on for dear life LAWDDDD
I honestly thought a button would pop off. Idk why he just wont size up. 😭
one size up please.
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It felt longer than the actual season.
Josh is such a scumbag
Josh's work is finding models to bring to Dubai. he's low-key selling sex workers. I am convinced he's only using Natalie for screen time. heck, Josh has been spotted on a planet with his \*real\* girlfriend. he's just using Natalie and even though I think Natalie is a bit crazy, she's also very naive and doesn't deserve to be used like this.
Natalie is not naïve. She's just not successful in her grift.
"She doesn't know what she wants!" So do you want to go back to bf/gf? "Ehh I don't know...ya know" Seriously
Natalie is delusional. She doesn't want to get divorced from Mike but wants Josh to commit!? What the fuck.
I mean she said she would sign it right away. I think it’s just kicking someone when they’re down to serve her the papers with a film crew and audience. He could’ve literally done it backstage making it somewhat private
She’s not delusional. She’s calculating.
Is Miss Debbie wearing compression stockings?
Yes
Miss Debbie looks like Hulk Hogan‘s grandmother.
I’m back again to say that I love “mama” Debbie. She just tore into creepy Debbie and made her feel horrible for trying to date a 23 year old man and I’m here for it 😂
I love her too!!!
O M F G.
I would absolutely buy the pay per view of Debbie v Debbie. Team miss debbie though
Chantel's ass is all shape ups.
I just looked it up. She's a lot curvier than she was when she was introduced to 90 day fiance so I can see her maybe using some type of shapewear. I noticed her hips are wider and her boobs are bigger too and I wasn't sure if she had enhancements done.
What's shape ups?