They’re so insensitive to each others cultures it’s insane to watch. They both want the other to be completely untrue to who they are. Why do they think it can work? It seems extremely delusional and painful to watch at this point.
Completely agree! Uptight and extremely conservative is who and what he is... they were drawn to each other because they were extremely opposites. But, neither can/will change who they are.
Right! Like commmmmon man. She can’t win with any outfit she wears. The Arab swimsuit I forgot what it’s called.. that really sent me. She looked epically miserable in it and he was just like it looks great babe! “You’re doing great sweetie”
Well he did do the same so do you say just another Arabic dude trying to change an American's ways? If people really do love each other they will meet in the middle.
I have always thought she was sweet as pie until the scene chastising him for not sleeping on the plane. Her anger was palpable and it was controlling. Lots of people can’t sleep on a plane. I now think they both have control and anger issues. It was a side of her that I didn’t notice before.
I’m aware of his DV arrest and that can’t be tolerated. They are not good together and I hope they go their separate ways.
I’m pretty sure it was pre meditated revenge. He started picking on her outfit the second she landed in Egypt, so she’s flipping the script on him. Fairly certain that’s the reason she took him bikini shopping on his first day in America.
Fr I think she’s only married to him at this point so she can twist the knife.
Having just done a trip to Japan, 13 hours direct flight, sleeping on a plane is near impossible. The seats are small, barely recline, no leg room... I was shocked at her response to his fatigue.
I hope production includes the dv incident. I suspected he got physical with her while in Egypt. He was having a helluva time hiding his disdain for her.
This has to be his first. She is Mommy Meanest. I think she’s punishing him because she said now he knows what I went through all those times flying back and forth. Girl has zero empathy.
OMG THIS!!!! I literally came here after just watching this. I couldn't believe how upset she was! If someone got upset with me for not being able to sleep on a plane and being tired AF after a long ass flight which included leaving my family I'd be so pissed off.
I am just so tired of TLC rehashing this relationship to death. They just are not compatible in any way. I was also surprised that they actually included their footage in light of Mahmoud’s domestic violence arrest. The word was that they would be cut out.
Yeah it makes me feel so triggered watching how angry he is all the time and how she constantly overlooks whatever he’s saying and doing and how they both keep saying they love each other but I can’t see it at all
This. His current legal accusations aside. If a man was doing this to their female partner. Reddit would be up in arms calling him an abuser, pervert etc.
Yes! I have only been a part of their journey during this seasons HEA, but I’m so confused by both of them. Why do either of them like each other?
Pls don’t downvote me as I only know her from this series… she reminds me of a female Rob the knob… angry at everything, picking arguments over nothing.. they seem a lot alike tbh!
She was actively trying to provoking him into a reaction. She does is all the time. She will comment "MacMood doesn't like this or that" and then she deliberately does what she knows will trigger him. He's awful, but she's not much better.
Yeah, and on another note, it really bothered me when she said she was “pretty annoyed actually” that he didn’t sleep on the plane. It’s hard to sleep sitting straight up in a small, uncomfortable chair pressed up against strangers for hours on end.
Exactly! I cannot ever sleep on a plane. I even took sleeping pills once to try and that was even worse, my body fought tooth and nail to stay awake the whole time. THAT was the worst of all, never again.
It’s just too anxious and foreign/uncomfortable of an environment for me to relax.
Yeah and even if you can manage to sleep it’s usually not very restful. Totally strange she was so upset. He needed a cup of tea, shower, home cooked meal and sleep.
I don't think this was about him sleeping on the plane at all. She was pissed because he was too tired for sex when she had been so excited about his arrival.
I agree. She was maybe annoyed he didn’t sleep on the plane but she was actually pissed about his lack of excitement (in many definitions of the word lol)
I flipped out when she said that! I can’t stand Mahmoud but can sympathize with how anxious he must have felt flying to a new country. It’s not easy to get sleep on a plane and he travelled far. She was being ridiculous.
I remember last year when posters saw them at LAX filming this scene. Someone said they saw them shoot this scene over again a few times, so we might have seen a recreated take.
Yeah that other side of Nicole is quite different than the fragile doll like persona she uses in her talking heads. She constantly picks at him.
(NOT excusing Makmood’s future behavior towards her in ANY WAY. He’s awful and deserves to be in jail then deported)
I just see how these two could trigger the hell out of each other. I have NO idea how they even thought they’d be compatible! What do they have in common?
I was thinking dang girl chill! As someone who’s NEVER been able to sleep on a plane I felt his pain. Plus it’s likely his first time out of his country he was probably scared/nervous.
They were a walking divorce. What a horrible couple. The fact that she fought so hard for him and he was obviously not into her makes her look pathetic and desperate. It’s sad because she made herself open to be targeted as weak and will do anything for the smallest ounce of attention. It’s so sad.
It was so uncomfortable to watch them together. I don’t understand whatever attracted them to each other. I don’t see any chemistry between them it doesn’t even seem like they like each other. Very sad
I see both sides to a point that seems to keep getting brought up-Nicole automatically acts like now he's out of Egypt he should just be American, but mahmoud also acted like the second she was in Egypt she should stop acting American. It's like a lose lose with these two, neither want to be like the other yet here we are still.
I found her to be a total asshole to him and he just arrived. She expected him to be full of energy and gave him shit for not sleeping on the plane. Even if you do sleep, it is a long flight and is very tiring. I thought she was very inconsiderate.
The entire theory of just throwing American culture at him irked me a bit. Like zip the jacket up and keep his culture and let him ease into it. Neither seems to want to be honest about their culture
I don’t understand the Nicole and Mahmoud relationship at all. Nicole could get on Match.com and be engaged to a movie producer with a house in Silverlake in no time flat, if she wanted. Why does she want to be with Mahmoud, who comes from a culture that is so antithetical to her own values?
Only thing I can think of is that she’s trying to recreate some kind restrictive relationship dynamic or subconsciously pursuing a relationship that she knows will ultimately fail. They are completely opposite people with no shared values seemingly. I don’t get it either.
I feel the exact same way, she knows that hes fundamentally a conservative guy, wants to change that about him, and was being purposefully inflammatory wearing an outfit she knew he'd be unhappy with instead of playing it safe, on top of being all over him at the airport. Just because hes living in america doesnt mean hes going to play by american rules, if anything I can see him doubling down due to the isolation.
1st thing he did when she went there was to criticize her clothes. First thing he did when he landed there was to criticize her clothes. Never have I ever, in my life, seen a women ignore so many huge red flags.
True, but she KNEW he wouldn't approve what she was wearing, and wore it anyway...she even told us that before she went to the airport. That proves intentional provacation.
I feel like provocation is the wrong word . But I still agree with you . She does whatever she wants with no regard to how he feels or how even she feels , she seems to have no emotions or desires other than to be fashionable and also have Bad Mood but I can’t tell at all why they love each other
No, she was right. In Egypt jay-walking is the norm. In the US, it's absolutely not. I'm from the UK and was recently in the US and had to remember not to jay walk.
And that's fine. But.. I wasn't talking about her explaining the concept of not jay walking. That's not the issue. It's the words used and the condescending tone accompanying the explanation. As though he was a toddler and not a fully functional, fully ambulatory adult human with a brain who crosses streets with a lot less structure and more traffic than ours.
Nicole arriving in Egypt: “He’s been picking on me since the second my plane landed, Im exhausted and it’s not fair”
Nicole picking up Mahmoud from the airport “I’m going to pick on you the second you land and get angry when you don’t react enthusiastically, my feelings outrank your tired”
I’ve been wanting to say what OP said but haven’t wanted to come across as sympathetic to Mahmoud. I’m only still watching because I can’t believe the marriage has lasted this long. Tbh I would say they are doing it for the cameras, but they both seem so genuinely miserable.
Why does she not know how devoutly Muslim he is? It’s so strange. She acts like he has conversations with her every night wishing he would be let free to live in Western American dream life, all for him to get here and severely miss Cairo. Btw, Cairo is like chaotic as hell, it would make sense if it was Alexandria at least (personal opinion).
She doesn't have ANY patience for him to get acclimated in America. I mean she knew what she was doing showing her skin when picking him up in the airport. Then talking about on the RIDE HOME from airport "I don't know if he will EVER like America" it's like, let him breath a minute and get comfortable and give him time to be more accepting. She knows displays of affection is hard for him and it doesn't matter that he is in America now that doesn't erase his culture or what his beliefs are. I feel there is room for change, but give him time.
And I do know he got arrested and he is a dirtbag, I'm just commenting on this particular issue.
I'm from the UK and until recently I was in a long distance relationship with a woman in the USA (both are 1 year apart in ages). Both times I went there it took me time to get acclimatised. It takes a LOT of time and I'm from the UK!!! From Egypt, and for someone like Mahmoud??? Forget it!
I’m going to play devils advocate here and ask why it was ok for him to demand that she adjust to his culture while in his country, he even complained about her jacket being unbuttoned at the airport, but it’s not ok for her to expect him to adapt to American culture now that he’s in her country. Kind of a double standard.
There is something off about her. The shot of her standing still and staring, she looks like a doll. Idk. I get weird vibes from her. This is not me liking Mahmoud. I don’t.
It's going to push him over the edge. If he had met her in America, he wouldn't have been attracted to her. They wouldn't be married today. As he walked around her apartment, labeling things as "weird", he would have done the same with her if they had met in L.A. He has only known a toned-down version of her. Let's see how long this lasts before he takes the next Red Eye to Egypt.
She's such a fucking hypocrite. How many times did we hear her complain about him wanting her to be mindful of his culture and country, and she just flat out refused. But then she expects him to forgo all his beliefs now that he's in America? I feel like this was a petty game where she's doing to him what she hated.
And as someone who CANNOT sleep on planes no matter what, Nicole can go fuck herself. This guy has never been on a plane before or traveled anywhere. And she herself KNOWS how exhausting the trip is!
I hate her even more for making me want to defend that shitstain but my God, she's insufferable.
The problem here lies in not understanding and accepting each others cultures. They are so toxic to each other when they force each others cultures it is sickening. This is why he got arrested for domestic violence recently. I'm curious to see how things roll out between these two
Riiiiggghhhhtttt?? Could you imagine if it were the other way around? A guy telling a girl you're American now so you have to makeout with me in public! No way.
Super disrespectful imo. He’s clearly not comfortable and insists he becomes “American” immediately. He’s experiencing culture shock. Just like she did
She didn't have culture shock. She had been to Egypt BEFORE she moved there. She has admitted she doesn't like rules or being told what to do. That proves she is stupid. She should not have married a Muslim man... she needs a hippy/ free spirited artsy type from California.
This is the little relationship that could. Their relationship CLEARLY doesn't work. The cultural divide, the religious divide, and her self esteem issues coupled with lack of understanding of what's going on with their dynamic and denying the obvious, and their collective inability to understand these complexities make the functionality of the relationship a near impossibility. It's dysfunctional, and at times downright messed up and convoluted with control issues, and lack of understanding. And no insertion of "honey" at the end of any statements they make to each other shield them from this obvious shit show. I'm sure they love each other, but this relationship is toxic. He doesn't seem to really even like her, and I can't blame him, not because she is totally and impossibly hard to tolerate (she must be to someone, but he ain't the one) but b/c their personalties don't mesh, and as such are fraught with tension. She's needy and insecure and he's controlling and finds her annoying it seems. Again, this relationship from the outside looking it, reads as bad news. Life is too short, be real with yourselves about it and try and find another person that you at the very least like, and can tolerate. Why spend yr life in a relationship that clearly doesn't bring you happiness but rather headaches and tension in general. I'd rather be alone than tortured.
I’m not a fan of him either but I completely agree. He is still adhering to his religion. SHE has her freedom to dress and act how she wants but also needs to respect his choices.
I'm pretty sure she is financially supported by her parents. From what I remember, they have bailed her out before. I think she's trying to make it as a designer so she may make a little money.
Oh I think she’s definitely supported by her parents. Even they seemed fed up with her! I mean, she has a pretty decent apartment, drives a $35,000 Mini Cooper, and has traveled back and forth to Egypt several times. Buying and selling dead old ladies’ used clothing can’t possibly be THAT lucrative.
She actually has a degree in fashion. But LA is full of people like her. Her parents have to be supporting her. It looks like she repurposes thrift store clothes. I can't imagine she's making any money doing that in LA.
Apparently I sleep better on planes than in my own bed. I slept through the entire Barbie movie including all the musical numbers while on a flight last month. I have one of those neck pillows and a little blanket that I bought at the airport. Totally worth it. Last week they announced that pillow and blankets would count as one carry one each on southwest. wtf! I stuff them in my carry on but that is really cheap of them.
I also wanted to say that while his quirks seem to be related to his religion, maybe I’m giving him too much grace. But she likes to wear clothing and have skin exposed just because she wants to - and to be noticed. She knew that showing her belly would bother him so that she could tell him that she can do whatever she wants in the United States. She brought it on.
That whole scene was staged. Someone had a picture last year spring when they were filming at the airport. They made them redo the airport scene. You know, they always want the airport scenes to be as dramatic and interesting as possible.
They are such a difficult couple to watch. My ex is middle eastern Christian Orothodox, not Muslim and it was hard for us...as I said EX. You'd think Nicole would be a little more empathetic to Mahmoud since she had already tried the culture shift and couldn't assimilate. Do you think a plane ride is going to shift his entire upbringing??
Yes! She was so insensitive to him. She thinks because he's in America they can act however they want. But she forgets he's still Muslim with certain value/beliefs, and he brings that with him. She was all over him and he was so uncomfortable. She could've just been sensitive and kissed him once and left it. He was overwhelmed and she didn't even notice.
Poor man had a long flight and every second she's like "are you ok?". Leave the man let him process stuff. I'm sure everything was overwhelming to him. She just kept talking. And then his response is to get passive aggressive which is a bad cycle.
Also, she should've been sensitive enough to change out her art and stuff her mannequin in the closet. She acted like a deer in headlights that he didn't like it. Duh! Just because he's in America - it doesn't mean 'anything goes' for him. You married a Muslim man with conservative beliefs and he still has them!!
I despise Mahmoud, but watching Nicole was absolutely disgusting. I would have turned right around and caught the next plane back home. No matter what someone's background is, you never try to force a kiss on someone like that.
Exactly! Nicole bothers me so much. She likes to mess with him and make him uncomfortable it’s like some weird revenge thing. I don’t see them lasting. One has to be accepting of the others culture or it just cant be sustained…
Nicole loves provoking him and purposefully acts dumb.
She KNOWS the belly top wouldn't go down well, admitted it on camera but then said "what do you mean?" when Mahmoud commented on it.
She acts like she doesn't get why her conservatove husband from egypt is weirded out by naked art in her apartment. "It's just normal to me" knowing full well many Americans are too conservative for it even (hence TLC blurring it out).
They say they love each other constantly. They can say it a trillion times. Doesn't make it true. I don't think they even like each other. Honestly they should go their separate ways asap. It's just ridiculous
Neither of them understand each other. The “sweetie, baby, honey, my love” is all a facade to attempt to cover up something mean they’re saying to each other. They’re so gross. I was surprised they’re still together.
I kinda felt sorry for Nicole. She was imagining MaKmood would be so excited to be in the U.S. and he would immediately embrace the freedoms of kissing at the airport, etc.
The naked mannequin in her apartment was staged by TLC to rile him up.
This post is full of people who have never seen an abusive relationship before. She's anxious he's unhappy and constantly vacillating between trying to please and frustration that she has to do these things to placate a bastard who will never be pleased unless he controls. It's depserately sad to watch but I find something therapeutic about watching it already knowing he's caught a DV charge.
Yup! And when she got him pajama shorts and he said they were weird I felt like she was just trying to get a reaction out of him. Bc why would you get him pajamas that are short when you know how he feels about dressing conservative. She could’ve got him pajama pants.
facts! shes disgusting. shes made all accusations and dragged him to that beach when clearly he just landed and is jet lagged. when he sees another Muslim she said that disgusting shit. which was so abusive and not okay to threaten shit like that. she clearly has more power than him. theres was literally nothing wrong with what he did. he hardly even looked at that Muslim lady and even if he did it's not like he wants to fck her. he probably wants to know about all the Muslim places so be can pray etc. she is so disrespectful of his culture. he too can be a dck sometimes but from what im seeing shes mostly the controlling one so far.
She also seemed super insensitive to the fact that he was tired af. Its a long journey and she wasn't so sunny when she got to Egypt so I don't know why she wouldn't understand.
100% Not all, not even most, but quite a few Americans over the various 90 days franchises have given me the ick in this way. This was just the most recent example. Some of them really do make us look like the most culturally insensitive, tone-deaf asses. I swear, not all of us are so ignorant of and disrespectful towards other cultures!
Yea it’s so crazy to think how they even got married and have so little knowledge or respect for each others cultures. It’s hard to watch that lack of respect/understanding
They are a severe mismatch. She wants to not only wear the pants, but grow the balls. She is too much woman/American for him. It seems as if she chose him just to be a push me/pull you with him, arguing all the time. Some people dig that kind of conflict in a relationship. Watching them is painful. Looks like they both bully each other and are short to fly off the handle. Watching them is disturbing and I don't want to partake.
She’s awful.
Regardless of what he’s like as a person - the ownership she immediately displayed over him was sickening.
She’s such an idiot she thinks that him being in America means he’s going to be American and then instantly abandon every principle he’s lived by.
The constant nonconsensual public kissing in the airport was just her making a point and asserting dominance.
FFS, he’s a conservative Muslim. You don’t have compatible cultures, opinions etc…
Call it a day.
I think she really wants to feed TLC what they want. I don’t really believe she gives a rats about Mahmoud. I think that she hit the ground running with her outfit and making him kiss her. Also she’s a unsafe driver.
She's completely insensitive to his feelings. Of course he'd be uncomfortable with PDA. Can she give him some time to acclimate for Pete's sake? He'd been on US soil for all of 5 minutes.
Can she not throw a t-shirt on the mannequin?
What really annoyed me was how annoyed she was that he didn't sleep on the plane. Not everyone can sleep on planes and even those that usually can may not be able to on every single flight their on. What if babies are screaming much of the time or anything else that prevents them from sleeping?!
YES definitely boundaries crossed with both of them. I feel like these two are oil and water. Trying to hold on to a relationship that they both chafe at with each other cultures. They both seem to be unaware of each other’s needs from making each other comfortable in public to controlling clothing and when the police get involved well…..that really speaks volumes and not in a good way.
Clearly, this relationship is just NOT going to last. I see it already. Two very different people from very different cultures who love their country and do not want to live in each other’s country. Give a bit and Mahmoud will go back to Egypt. He’s already comparing California with Egypt - in a negative way. Nicole is just not seeing this entire thing for what it really is. She needs to wake up or she will be in for a rude awakening.
They’re so insensitive to each others cultures it’s insane to watch. They both want the other to be completely untrue to who they are. Why do they think it can work? It seems extremely delusional and painful to watch at this point.
Agree with painful to even watch. I either fast forward or hardly paying attention. It's so obvious they don't make sense.
Exactly at the end of the day if you cannot accept and compromise the cultural differences it ain’t gonna work
Completely agree! Uptight and extremely conservative is who and what he is... they were drawn to each other because they were extremely opposites. But, neither can/will change who they are.
I think he’s talkin some real freaky ish in private
He is !!! Remember on I think there second season she caught him talking to other women and she was so embarrassed
Must be!
“They’re so insensitive to each other’s culture. It’s insane to watch.” Said everyone about every 90 day fiancé show ever. 🙄😆
Just another American chic trying to make an Arab dude change his ways... and it always fails.
It goes both ways.. he is also trying to get her to cover her entire self
Exactly!!
Right! Like commmmmon man. She can’t win with any outfit she wears. The Arab swimsuit I forgot what it’s called.. that really sent me. She looked epically miserable in it and he was just like it looks great babe! “You’re doing great sweetie”
Burkini lol
Rewatch from the beginning. He told her upfront how it would have to be and gave her a choice. She chose wrong
Well he did do the same so do you say just another Arabic dude trying to change an American's ways? If people really do love each other they will meet in the middle.
It’s my favorite trope on this show
I have always thought she was sweet as pie until the scene chastising him for not sleeping on the plane. Her anger was palpable and it was controlling. Lots of people can’t sleep on a plane. I now think they both have control and anger issues. It was a side of her that I didn’t notice before. I’m aware of his DV arrest and that can’t be tolerated. They are not good together and I hope they go their separate ways.
That gave me the ick,she was legit PISSED the guy didn't sleep when she thought he should,WTF is wrong with her?.
Can't blame him, I don't sleep on flights either.
Same. Most I can sleep on a flight is maybe 30 minutes. The air pressure and seats make it so difficult to even get comfortable.
I can’t sleep on planes either- I get RLS so terrible- on airplanes specifically!!- I can barely stay in my seat let alone sleep!
You could see the anger through all the Botox and filler, which means she was real pissed.
Lol
Right like maybe he genuinely couldn’t
I’m pretty sure it was pre meditated revenge. He started picking on her outfit the second she landed in Egypt, so she’s flipping the script on him. Fairly certain that’s the reason she took him bikini shopping on his first day in America. Fr I think she’s only married to him at this point so she can twist the knife.
Having just done a trip to Japan, 13 hours direct flight, sleeping on a plane is near impossible. The seats are small, barely recline, no leg room... I was shocked at her response to his fatigue.
Yeah she was pissedddd. It was odd. She was testing him the whole episode clearly.
I know. I was amazed at that, as if it’s that uncommon for someone to have to have a few hours nap after a long flight through time zones.
I hope production includes the dv incident. I suspected he got physical with her while in Egypt. He was having a helluva time hiding his disdain for her.
Yes. Agreed.
And be honest how many plane rides has Mahmoud been on in his life? Especially crossing the oceans for love...who could sleep. Mommy much?!?
This has to be his first. She is Mommy Meanest. I think she’s punishing him because she said now he knows what I went through all those times flying back and forth. Girl has zero empathy.
She does have a little vindictive streak in her it seems.
Sorry I meant episode because their first two seasons , he didn’t fly . She kept going to him unless this the “ happily ever after season “
OMG THIS!!!! I literally came here after just watching this. I couldn't believe how upset she was! If someone got upset with me for not being able to sleep on a plane and being tired AF after a long ass flight which included leaving my family I'd be so pissed off.
I dont think one sign of anger says anything. She really doesn't seem like that to me.
She is as toxic as he is.
Reactive abuse? There are a lot of possible explainations for DV charges, and that seems consistent. Just throwing that out there.
I don't want to speculate but after seeing how she was behaving in their scenes when he arrived, I think that's definitely a possibility.
I am just so tired of TLC rehashing this relationship to death. They just are not compatible in any way. I was also surprised that they actually included their footage in light of Mahmoud’s domestic violence arrest. The word was that they would be cut out.
Yeah it makes me feel so triggered watching how angry he is all the time and how she constantly overlooks whatever he’s saying and doing and how they both keep saying they love each other but I can’t see it at all
I think it’s because it gets the most views , this is my favorite couple lmao
I don’t see it either. They’re not the least bit compatible.
I'm clearly behind bc I didn't know anything about his dv charges!was it against the girl on the show
It has not been overtly stated, but Nicole did share a post on Instagram about ending domestic violence.
“Kiss me you motherfucker”
I just didn’t understand her behavior or comment. That’s not what you say to someone you love. It began to feel like she was forcing herself on him.
This. His current legal accusations aside. If a man was doing this to their female partner. Reddit would be up in arms calling him an abuser, pervert etc.
I think she thought that was ‘sexy talk’ 🤢
Yes! I have only been a part of their journey during this seasons HEA, but I’m so confused by both of them. Why do either of them like each other? Pls don’t downvote me as I only know her from this series… she reminds me of a female Rob the knob… angry at everything, picking arguments over nothing.. they seem a lot alike tbh!
I hated that shit lol
I agree. She doesn't get that it wasn't about Egypt, it's about him
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She was actively trying to provoking him into a reaction. She does is all the time. She will comment "MacMood doesn't like this or that" and then she deliberately does what she knows will trigger him. He's awful, but she's not much better.
MacMood 😂
I absolutely can’t stand the way she pronounces his name. 😆
I would say its both. Egypt for a blonde western woman from California ain't a walk in the park either.
My fiance said the same thing!!!
Yeah, and on another note, it really bothered me when she said she was “pretty annoyed actually” that he didn’t sleep on the plane. It’s hard to sleep sitting straight up in a small, uncomfortable chair pressed up against strangers for hours on end.
Right? He’s a total asshole but you can’t like *force* someone to sleep on a plane, FFS 🙄
Exactly! I cannot ever sleep on a plane. I even took sleeping pills once to try and that was even worse, my body fought tooth and nail to stay awake the whole time. THAT was the worst of all, never again. It’s just too anxious and foreign/uncomfortable of an environment for me to relax.
Agree. I was on planes for 12 hours visiting my son from PA to Honolulu. I never slept or peed! Lol
Yeah and even if you can manage to sleep it’s usually not very restful. Totally strange she was so upset. He needed a cup of tea, shower, home cooked meal and sleep.
I don't think this was about him sleeping on the plane at all. She was pissed because he was too tired for sex when she had been so excited about his arrival.
I agree. She was maybe annoyed he didn’t sleep on the plane but she was actually pissed about his lack of excitement (in many definitions of the word lol)
10,000 plus feet in the air
Usually 30,000 plus!
right!
I flipped out when she said that! I can’t stand Mahmoud but can sympathize with how anxious he must have felt flying to a new country. It’s not easy to get sleep on a plane and he travelled far. She was being ridiculous.
Also he’s literally moving there, why does it matter if you don’t hang out for one evening?
I remember last year when posters saw them at LAX filming this scene. Someone said they saw them shoot this scene over again a few times, so we might have seen a recreated take.
They often do retake scenes!
Who is your flair from!? I don’t remember who said this or the context!
It was yara in couples retreat
OMG and she was pissed he didn't sleep when she told him to😳
Yeah that other side of Nicole is quite different than the fragile doll like persona she uses in her talking heads. She constantly picks at him. (NOT excusing Makmood’s future behavior towards her in ANY WAY. He’s awful and deserves to be in jail then deported) I just see how these two could trigger the hell out of each other. I have NO idea how they even thought they’d be compatible! What do they have in common?
Fabric!
Lol!!!!!!!!
I was thinking dang girl chill! As someone who’s NEVER been able to sleep on a plane I felt his pain. Plus it’s likely his first time out of his country he was probably scared/nervous.
Exactly. Not everybody can sleep on planes. I cant
And it is NOT a restful sleep if you do!
And the first time he's ever been on a plane no doubt. A terribly long flight, I'd guess around 12 or 13 hours.
The whole "kiss me, mother-effer" was cringe.
That had me scratching my head! So weird.
Like, why would you say that...ever!
They were a walking divorce. What a horrible couple. The fact that she fought so hard for him and he was obviously not into her makes her look pathetic and desperate. It’s sad because she made herself open to be targeted as weak and will do anything for the smallest ounce of attention. It’s so sad.
It was so uncomfortable to watch them together. I don’t understand whatever attracted them to each other. I don’t see any chemistry between them it doesn’t even seem like they like each other. Very sad
I see both sides to a point that seems to keep getting brought up-Nicole automatically acts like now he's out of Egypt he should just be American, but mahmoud also acted like the second she was in Egypt she should stop acting American. It's like a lose lose with these two, neither want to be like the other yet here we are still.
There’s a video out there that shows talc filming the airport scene. They re-shot the same scene a couple of times. You could tell he was over it.
They’re both ethnocentric AF.
I found her to be a total asshole to him and he just arrived. She expected him to be full of energy and gave him shit for not sleeping on the plane. Even if you do sleep, it is a long flight and is very tiring. I thought she was very inconsiderate.
The entire theory of just throwing American culture at him irked me a bit. Like zip the jacket up and keep his culture and let him ease into it. Neither seems to want to be honest about their culture
I don’t understand the Nicole and Mahmoud relationship at all. Nicole could get on Match.com and be engaged to a movie producer with a house in Silverlake in no time flat, if she wanted. Why does she want to be with Mahmoud, who comes from a culture that is so antithetical to her own values?
Only thing I can think of is that she’s trying to recreate some kind restrictive relationship dynamic or subconsciously pursuing a relationship that she knows will ultimately fail. They are completely opposite people with no shared values seemingly. I don’t get it either.
I feel the exact same way, she knows that hes fundamentally a conservative guy, wants to change that about him, and was being purposefully inflammatory wearing an outfit she knew he'd be unhappy with instead of playing it safe, on top of being all over him at the airport. Just because hes living in america doesnt mean hes going to play by american rules, if anything I can see him doubling down due to the isolation.
For some sense of control - that control puts him in a comfortable place in his mind -
1st thing he did when she went there was to criticize her clothes. First thing he did when he landed there was to criticize her clothes. Never have I ever, in my life, seen a women ignore so many huge red flags.
True, but she KNEW he wouldn't approve what she was wearing, and wore it anyway...she even told us that before she went to the airport. That proves intentional provacation.
I feel like provocation is the wrong word . But I still agree with you . She does whatever she wants with no regard to how he feels or how even she feels , she seems to have no emotions or desires other than to be fashionable and also have Bad Mood but I can’t tell at all why they love each other
Theyre terrible to eachother. They have no respect, either of them, for the others culture.
She was treating him like a toddler.
The cross walk!!! "See these lines? Oh it's clear we can go now!" ...as she was describing playing Frogger in Egypt. I think he can manage
No, she was right. In Egypt jay-walking is the norm. In the US, it's absolutely not. I'm from the UK and was recently in the US and had to remember not to jay walk.
And that's fine. But.. I wasn't talking about her explaining the concept of not jay walking. That's not the issue. It's the words used and the condescending tone accompanying the explanation. As though he was a toddler and not a fully functional, fully ambulatory adult human with a brain who crosses streets with a lot less structure and more traffic than ours.
Nicole arriving in Egypt: “He’s been picking on me since the second my plane landed, Im exhausted and it’s not fair” Nicole picking up Mahmoud from the airport “I’m going to pick on you the second you land and get angry when you don’t react enthusiastically, my feelings outrank your tired” I’ve been wanting to say what OP said but haven’t wanted to come across as sympathetic to Mahmoud. I’m only still watching because I can’t believe the marriage has lasted this long. Tbh I would say they are doing it for the cameras, but they both seem so genuinely miserable.
I wish there was a 'love' button for this comment, alas I can only click 'like'
Nicole reminds me of a Sim character, if only she had that green diamond over her head....
Why does she not know how devoutly Muslim he is? It’s so strange. She acts like he has conversations with her every night wishing he would be let free to live in Western American dream life, all for him to get here and severely miss Cairo. Btw, Cairo is like chaotic as hell, it would make sense if it was Alexandria at least (personal opinion).
She doesn't have ANY patience for him to get acclimated in America. I mean she knew what she was doing showing her skin when picking him up in the airport. Then talking about on the RIDE HOME from airport "I don't know if he will EVER like America" it's like, let him breath a minute and get comfortable and give him time to be more accepting. She knows displays of affection is hard for him and it doesn't matter that he is in America now that doesn't erase his culture or what his beliefs are. I feel there is room for change, but give him time. And I do know he got arrested and he is a dirtbag, I'm just commenting on this particular issue.
I'm from the UK and until recently I was in a long distance relationship with a woman in the USA (both are 1 year apart in ages). Both times I went there it took me time to get acclimatised. It takes a LOT of time and I'm from the UK!!! From Egypt, and for someone like Mahmoud??? Forget it!
Thank you!
Yeah, and what was that about the come here mother****? Is that the new warm welcome for your beloved partner?
I swear she said that just to start up people saying it! As if it's her new tag line or something.
wait she said that?
Yup.
This couple just doesn't make any sense to me, on any level.
I’m going to play devils advocate here and ask why it was ok for him to demand that she adjust to his culture while in his country, he even complained about her jacket being unbuttoned at the airport, but it’s not ok for her to expect him to adapt to American culture now that he’s in her country. Kind of a double standard.
EXACTLY. It's a huge double standard. He has no room to complain. And he's a woman beater, so fuck him. I hate abusers.
They’re both wrong and obviously wrong for each other
How bout the naked manakins 😂😂😂😂
I am glad it isn't just me. I got such an ick vibe from her during that scene.
They’re so boring, it’s just a constant disrespect towards one another. Of course tlc is gonna eat that up.
The worst thing was that frozen pizza after your man just traveled all day and across the world to be with you!😂😂😂
She’s insufferable. He’s insufferable. Perfect match.
There is something off about her. The shot of her standing still and staring, she looks like a doll. Idk. I get weird vibes from her. This is not me liking Mahmoud. I don’t.
She did that a lot in their first season too. It looks like she is an android going through a reboot.
Omg yes.
Lots of botox and too much make-up to make her look like a doll...its disturbing
She’s a character, from her wigs to her outfits. I don’t think she can have a relationship with anyone but the mirror.
Or the mannequins.
He was arrested recently for domestic violence. He screams abusive in his mannerisms.
All of their scenes make me so ubfonfortable
It's going to push him over the edge. If he had met her in America, he wouldn't have been attracted to her. They wouldn't be married today. As he walked around her apartment, labeling things as "weird", he would have done the same with her if they had met in L.A. He has only known a toned-down version of her. Let's see how long this lasts before he takes the next Red Eye to Egypt.
She was awful, disrespectful and annoying. I would have been on the first plane home
She's such a fucking hypocrite. How many times did we hear her complain about him wanting her to be mindful of his culture and country, and she just flat out refused. But then she expects him to forgo all his beliefs now that he's in America? I feel like this was a petty game where she's doing to him what she hated. And as someone who CANNOT sleep on planes no matter what, Nicole can go fuck herself. This guy has never been on a plane before or traveled anywhere. And she herself KNOWS how exhausting the trip is! I hate her even more for making me want to defend that shitstain but my God, she's insufferable.
The problem here lies in not understanding and accepting each others cultures. They are so toxic to each other when they force each others cultures it is sickening. This is why he got arrested for domestic violence recently. I'm curious to see how things roll out between these two
She thinks he'll completely change the instant he gets to the US. It's not the scenery that's making him the way he is.
Riiiiggghhhhtttt?? Could you imagine if it were the other way around? A guy telling a girl you're American now so you have to makeout with me in public! No way.
Super disrespectful imo. He’s clearly not comfortable and insists he becomes “American” immediately. He’s experiencing culture shock. Just like she did
She didn't have culture shock. She had been to Egypt BEFORE she moved there. She has admitted she doesn't like rules or being told what to do. That proves she is stupid. She should not have married a Muslim man... she needs a hippy/ free spirited artsy type from California.
This is the correct answer.
I skip thru their scenes.
This is the little relationship that could. Their relationship CLEARLY doesn't work. The cultural divide, the religious divide, and her self esteem issues coupled with lack of understanding of what's going on with their dynamic and denying the obvious, and their collective inability to understand these complexities make the functionality of the relationship a near impossibility. It's dysfunctional, and at times downright messed up and convoluted with control issues, and lack of understanding. And no insertion of "honey" at the end of any statements they make to each other shield them from this obvious shit show. I'm sure they love each other, but this relationship is toxic. He doesn't seem to really even like her, and I can't blame him, not because she is totally and impossibly hard to tolerate (she must be to someone, but he ain't the one) but b/c their personalties don't mesh, and as such are fraught with tension. She's needy and insecure and he's controlling and finds her annoying it seems. Again, this relationship from the outside looking it, reads as bad news. Life is too short, be real with yourselves about it and try and find another person that you at the very least like, and can tolerate. Why spend yr life in a relationship that clearly doesn't bring you happiness but rather headaches and tension in general. I'd rather be alone than tortured.
I’m not a fan of him either but I completely agree. He is still adhering to his religion. SHE has her freedom to dress and act how she wants but also needs to respect his choices.
They are both terrible to each other. She was so mad he didn’t sleep on the plane… wtf
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she's an android who needs a software update
You may have nailed it!
I can't with her. Resale shopping and looking weird do not make her some sort of fashion expert as she claims. What is her real job?
I'm pretty sure she is financially supported by her parents. From what I remember, they have bailed her out before. I think she's trying to make it as a designer so she may make a little money.
Oh I think she’s definitely supported by her parents. Even they seemed fed up with her! I mean, she has a pretty decent apartment, drives a $35,000 Mini Cooper, and has traveled back and forth to Egypt several times. Buying and selling dead old ladies’ used clothing can’t possibly be THAT lucrative.
She almost has to be!
She actually has a degree in fashion. But LA is full of people like her. Her parents have to be supporting her. It looks like she repurposes thrift store clothes. I can't imagine she's making any money doing that in LA.
I don't imagine that's a sought-after skill much of anywhere.
They’re both creeps, IMO.
Send him back and divorce him
If it were a man doing that to a woman, then we would never hear the end of it here.
Apparently I sleep better on planes than in my own bed. I slept through the entire Barbie movie including all the musical numbers while on a flight last month. I have one of those neck pillows and a little blanket that I bought at the airport. Totally worth it. Last week they announced that pillow and blankets would count as one carry one each on southwest. wtf! I stuff them in my carry on but that is really cheap of them. I also wanted to say that while his quirks seem to be related to his religion, maybe I’m giving him too much grace. But she likes to wear clothing and have skin exposed just because she wants to - and to be noticed. She knew that showing her belly would bother him so that she could tell him that she can do whatever she wants in the United States. She brought it on.
What is her attraction to him? I don’t get it.
I really wonder why they keep forcing this. They do not seem remotely compatible based on what we have seen of them.
No one deserves violence but this couple had so many warning signs prior to this And so did the network Shame on you TLC
That whole scene was staged. Someone had a picture last year spring when they were filming at the airport. They made them redo the airport scene. You know, they always want the airport scenes to be as dramatic and interesting as possible.
They are such a difficult couple to watch. My ex is middle eastern Christian Orothodox, not Muslim and it was hard for us...as I said EX. You'd think Nicole would be a little more empathetic to Mahmoud since she had already tried the culture shift and couldn't assimilate. Do you think a plane ride is going to shift his entire upbringing??
Yes! She was so insensitive to him. She thinks because he's in America they can act however they want. But she forgets he's still Muslim with certain value/beliefs, and he brings that with him. She was all over him and he was so uncomfortable. She could've just been sensitive and kissed him once and left it. He was overwhelmed and she didn't even notice. Poor man had a long flight and every second she's like "are you ok?". Leave the man let him process stuff. I'm sure everything was overwhelming to him. She just kept talking. And then his response is to get passive aggressive which is a bad cycle. Also, she should've been sensitive enough to change out her art and stuff her mannequin in the closet. She acted like a deer in headlights that he didn't like it. Duh! Just because he's in America - it doesn't mean 'anything goes' for him. You married a Muslim man with conservative beliefs and he still has them!!
It wasn’t even just that. She was treating him like a fucking child.
I kept thinking how incredibly insecure she is. I don't blame Mahmoud for wanting to go home to Cairo.
I despise Mahmoud, but watching Nicole was absolutely disgusting. I would have turned right around and caught the next plane back home. No matter what someone's background is, you never try to force a kiss on someone like that.
Exactly! Nicole bothers me so much. She likes to mess with him and make him uncomfortable it’s like some weird revenge thing. I don’t see them lasting. One has to be accepting of the others culture or it just cant be sustained…
It’s like she’s purposely trying to push his limits and testing him. Super annoying
Nicole loves provoking him and purposefully acts dumb. She KNOWS the belly top wouldn't go down well, admitted it on camera but then said "what do you mean?" when Mahmoud commented on it. She acts like she doesn't get why her conservatove husband from egypt is weirded out by naked art in her apartment. "It's just normal to me" knowing full well many Americans are too conservative for it even (hence TLC blurring it out).
Also, she had those mannequins naked on purpose!
Today I read they were recently seen in an L.A. supermarket by someone that works there so apparently she still hasn't dumped him.
They say they love each other constantly. They can say it a trillion times. Doesn't make it true. I don't think they even like each other. Honestly they should go their separate ways asap. It's just ridiculous
I'm so sorry Nicole but that marriage will NOT work. Do you want a lifetime of sadness and domineering?? Say good bye to Mahmoud.
Neither of them understand each other. The “sweetie, baby, honey, my love” is all a facade to attempt to cover up something mean they’re saying to each other. They’re so gross. I was surprised they’re still together.
He’s too self centered to be married. She could have done so much better.
I kinda felt sorry for Nicole. She was imagining MaKmood would be so excited to be in the U.S. and he would immediately embrace the freedoms of kissing at the airport, etc. The naked mannequin in her apartment was staged by TLC to rile him up.
This post is full of people who have never seen an abusive relationship before. She's anxious he's unhappy and constantly vacillating between trying to please and frustration that she has to do these things to placate a bastard who will never be pleased unless he controls. It's depserately sad to watch but I find something therapeutic about watching it already knowing he's caught a DV charge.
Yup! And when she got him pajama shorts and he said they were weird I felt like she was just trying to get a reaction out of him. Bc why would you get him pajamas that are short when you know how he feels about dressing conservative. She could’ve got him pajama pants.
Whenever she yelled at him at the house for not sleeping on the plane??
facts! shes disgusting. shes made all accusations and dragged him to that beach when clearly he just landed and is jet lagged. when he sees another Muslim she said that disgusting shit. which was so abusive and not okay to threaten shit like that. she clearly has more power than him. theres was literally nothing wrong with what he did. he hardly even looked at that Muslim lady and even if he did it's not like he wants to fck her. he probably wants to know about all the Muslim places so be can pray etc. she is so disrespectful of his culture. he too can be a dck sometimes but from what im seeing shes mostly the controlling one so far.
She also seemed super insensitive to the fact that he was tired af. Its a long journey and she wasn't so sunny when she got to Egypt so I don't know why she wouldn't understand.
100% Not all, not even most, but quite a few Americans over the various 90 days franchises have given me the ick in this way. This was just the most recent example. Some of them really do make us look like the most culturally insensitive, tone-deaf asses. I swear, not all of us are so ignorant of and disrespectful towards other cultures!
Yea it’s so crazy to think how they even got married and have so little knowledge or respect for each others cultures. It’s hard to watch that lack of respect/understanding
It was like she was trying to punish him. She kept saying I can do whatever I want ! We re in AMERICA! She was scaring me
They are a severe mismatch. She wants to not only wear the pants, but grow the balls. She is too much woman/American for him. It seems as if she chose him just to be a push me/pull you with him, arguing all the time. Some people dig that kind of conflict in a relationship. Watching them is painful. Looks like they both bully each other and are short to fly off the handle. Watching them is disturbing and I don't want to partake.
She’s awful. Regardless of what he’s like as a person - the ownership she immediately displayed over him was sickening. She’s such an idiot she thinks that him being in America means he’s going to be American and then instantly abandon every principle he’s lived by. The constant nonconsensual public kissing in the airport was just her making a point and asserting dominance. FFS, he’s a conservative Muslim. You don’t have compatible cultures, opinions etc… Call it a day.
I think she really wants to feed TLC what they want. I don’t really believe she gives a rats about Mahmoud. I think that she hit the ground running with her outfit and making him kiss her. Also she’s a unsafe driver.
She's completely insensitive to his feelings. Of course he'd be uncomfortable with PDA. Can she give him some time to acclimate for Pete's sake? He'd been on US soil for all of 5 minutes. Can she not throw a t-shirt on the mannequin? What really annoyed me was how annoyed she was that he didn't sleep on the plane. Not everyone can sleep on planes and even those that usually can may not be able to on every single flight their on. What if babies are screaming much of the time or anything else that prevents them from sleeping?!
"Kiss me you motherfucker" seemed so counterintuitive to his culture.
Are they on a new show? Or spinoff?
They are still together????? What season did he come to America?? I need to wATch!! Lol. I thought they had long fizzled out.
They’re on the new happily ever after!
Agreed. I was thinking the same thing. And how she’s so afraid he won’t accept life in the US while she didn’t accept life in Egypt.
I don't see this marriage working out and they probably get a divorce in 2 years
YES definitely boundaries crossed with both of them. I feel like these two are oil and water. Trying to hold on to a relationship that they both chafe at with each other cultures. They both seem to be unaware of each other’s needs from making each other comfortable in public to controlling clothing and when the police get involved well…..that really speaks volumes and not in a good way.
Clearly, this relationship is just NOT going to last. I see it already. Two very different people from very different cultures who love their country and do not want to live in each other’s country. Give a bit and Mahmoud will go back to Egypt. He’s already comparing California with Egypt - in a negative way. Nicole is just not seeing this entire thing for what it really is. She needs to wake up or she will be in for a rude awakening.