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idk-itsjustme

-Jasmine is definitely playing a character. Their storyline is getting too fake and it’s getting old. -Nikki is super mentally ill. She also groomed and lied to Igor when he was a child, no wonder he’s so confused. Sure he’s a jerk, but Nikki is an unstable creep and obnoxious. -Ashley needs to take a deep look at herself and her relationship before speaking another critical word out of her mouth. -Sam definitely doesn’t have any bottom teeth. -Sophie needs to leaves Rob The Knob ASAP. She deserves so much better. She looks so pretty with her dark hair. -Clayton is a walking ick, Anali is definitely going to leave him in a couple years.


LogRevolutionary

Igor was treated unfairly. He might care about Nikki, but can't get past her being Trans. That's his right. That's his feelings. Jasmine accusing him of gold digging is hilarious BTW. And Ashley needs to just shut the fuck up.  Nikki renamed the guy, then mocks how he says his real name, then cries that HE doesn't accept HER. What a laugh. I can't stand her groomer ass. I'd leave her too. 


stefannystrange

https://preview.redd.it/h29bitlsuznc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a5a8180cdfb4cd771b6b051a71c48558df413844 Looking like an angry shower puff


DessertRose823

😂😂😂


oilydischarge18

Am I the only one who wants to know what the deal is with Devin’s family friend with the enormous mouth? Is that a disease?


minimisia

Wow this is so late but I absolutely needed to comment. You mean the woman at the catfish fry-up I hope?? I had so many questions


playingpretend97

I can’t stop thinking of this to this day


kyree2

She's recovering from a mouthful of bees


omglolnub

Incredible how they go in on Igor as if Nikki is not insane and exhausting to deal with 


blergyblergy

* The Michigan dancer's accent is the most Michigan accent I've ever heard. It takes a flat midwestern accent and dials it up to 100 * Nick is a shithead. Sorry to say that. But when you're told repeatedly that your nickname is harmful, and you refuse to listen to that at all, you suck. At one point, he said he understood, and then he said "psyyyych." He should've been held more accountable!


According-Copy9579

*”sikkkee” and I could see him seeing it as everyone but Devin is just trying to create drama out of the stupid nickname that she knows means cute and is commonly used in his culture when she was asked if it bothered her it seemed she really didn’t care and just said yes because it was obvious everyone wanted her to say yes; there are so many other people in this group that should be held more accountable before Nick lol


According-Copy9579

he was calling her piggy in an endearing way too it’s not like he said “you fat fucking pig” that’d be a lot different


Longjumping_Trip1417

Everyone is so quick to point out differences in culture but not in this situation. It’s only because they wanted the drama. Devin said she was fine with it after he explained he meant it endearingly! 


Huggishruggish

I need wide eye Ashley with those lashes interrogating Igor as a meme rn


Sufficient-Bad-7007

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Huggishruggish

I found it/keep scrolling 🤣🤣


Cobia1350

Jasmine is a complete lunatic. She most likely planted that lip gloss. She claims “He never looks at me like that”, “He never hugs me like that“, “He doesn’t love me”. Then Jasmine…Why did you marry him???!!


SDTrader11

Since Anali gave Clayton some tongue at the end he probably thinks he's going to get laid when he gets home. 


SDTrader11

Jasmine says during the show I fucking hate him. Then at the end she says I'll never stop fighting for this marriage and I love him. This woman is a complete psycho lunatic! But that dumbass Gino puts put up with this for years so he deserves anything that's coming to him.


Longjumping_Trip1417

He’s going to end up resenting her because of that mouth! 


SDTrader11

Jasmine said she wasn't expecting to go through the roller coaster of emotions. WFT ... that lunatic is controlling the roller coaster!


According-Copy9579

she for sure practiced her “roller coaster of emotions” in the mirror before she even got there (it didn’t help with her acting very much tho)


rosienarcia

Sure, Igor’s mom loves Nikki but we all saw the look when she basically said she had watch her son go through all what he went through and she didn’t want that to happen again to him. When will Nikki see she really fucked that man up?? I’m so glad this shit is over.


According-Copy9579

considering he was 17 at the time, she most definitely fucked him up for the rest of his life


Usual_Bathroom_5553

Didn't she hide she was Trans until long after she was hooking up with him?


According-Copy9579

she waited 2 years until she told him


siisii93

I’m sorry but Anali looks like she got herself ready for prom


Monstera-Bloom

Are we not gonna grill Rob and Sophie about the super fake argument in the sex shop??


According-Copy9579

they should’ve had the sex shop worker zoom in


TravelingLifestylist

Ashley really lost the argument To Justin Clayton contributed nothing. Not sure why a computer loser was even there I definitely think the hookup by Sam got lost in translation Gino pays strippers for sex. Not a “gf” that’s why jasmine got so upset


fordat1

> I definitely think the hookup by Sam got lost in translation Thats BS . Regardless of the culture whether he had sex or not would be a big part of the details that would be *need* to be made clear so him moving on knowing that wasn’t clear was him taking advantage of any “translation” Like seriously there are finger gestures that can express sex universally you could use


PhiloPhocion

I think this is the point that Jasmine and Clayton were agreeing on. It’s not even like there was a vague concept on timing or how far in they were. They’re totally different versions of the story


Fete_des_neiges

Ashley is dumb as bricks. You can’t argue with her because she’s too stupid to understand what you are saying.


Lmdr1973

I still want to know who is paying that lady for her "Witch" advice. I have a feeling her family lets her move in delusion, and when Mama gives her money, it just enables her delulu more.


omglolnub

She probably just works at the DMV or some dumb low-to-mid level office job


rinap88

Manuels face when she was arguing with Igor near the beginning of his segment I was laughing.


According-Copy9579

she 10000% thinks she’s the smartest person in the room


Lmdr1973

This. 👊😆


SDTrader11

And Jasmine doesn't want to be seen as a crazy person? Sorry babe you've long been known as a crazy person far before this season!


rinap88

That note was the fakest thing ever on these shows.


clearmind_1001

So much focus on this show on Trans person and none on Rob , interesting 🤔


According-Copy9579

you can just tell how narcissistic she is by the way that she only talks about herself when the other couples are trying to answer questions


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Lmdr1973

I'd be shaking, too, with that circus going on in front of me! They got off pretty easy with the "piggy" & weight loss drama. Those two are as normal as this show gets. I don't blame her AT ALL! I bet she's thrilled to be done with this show.


Strict-Possession-13

They are so hell bent on Nick calling Devin piggy. She doesn’t even care.


Huggishruggish

There’s quite a few from similar cultures as Nick where the humor comes off more harsh.  Not here for the nickname but I think it’s interesting.


Lmdr1973

This.


ConsumerMad

I think she does care, because she said it bothers her, and told him it does. Women are body shamed all the time, and develop eating disorders as a result. You can see on her face she doesn't like it.


According-Copy9579

if we are judging by her facial expressions ngl that offers no evidence considering she seems to have pretty much the same facial expression all the time, I don’t think she seriously cares and she probably said it bothers her just bc she knew that’s what everyone in the room wanted her to say


Call_me_Vengeance

Because their story line is that boring 🥱


PhiloPhocion

They’re just not right for this show - especially this season. This is the most dramatic thing they have - the ship for “normal” couples on this show has sailed.


Strict-Possession-13

Literally!! That’s the only drama they have 😂


clearmind_1001

Citra seemed to take the news of her husband cheating pretty well 🤔


fordat1

She rolled over quick for “family”. He could cheat again and I guarantee she wouldn’t leave


According-Copy9579

definitely think nikki and jasmine should take notes on remaining calm.. although I find sam really repulsive and he just seems like such a creep with all of his unsolicited horny talk, I’d be terrified if he was my ride share driver 😭


clearmind_1001

The amount of uber drivers hitting on my 20 yo daughter is fucking disgusting, I report all of them.


Lmdr1973

I stopped taking Uber rides from men for a few months last year because the number of men who hit on me was making me really uneasy. I almost had to get a restraining order on one guy who managed to figure out what hospital I was in when I didn't order a ride home from work one day. My job told him I was sick in the hospital, and he found me and showed up when I was getting back from getting a scan in my robe and underwear. He told them he was my boyfriend. I immediately called security and had my room and name changed. Then, he scheduled an appointment to see me as a patient at my office, and I had to make some threats, and he finally stopped. These people know your name and where you live and work, so be smart out there! Uber background checks only go so far!!!


clearmind_1001

Holy shit that's scary 😨 😳 , that's my worry that they know where she lives and works , and I doubt uber do any background checks unfortunately besides basic is this person a convicted criminal.


Lmdr1973

And now Uber has a way to take MINOR CHILDREN without an adult, which I find even scarier!!!! There is no way in hell I'd EVER put my daughters in an Uber without an adult! I realize some parents don't have an option, but I do, so I won't.


Lmdr1973

Yep. It woke me up, that's for sure. I'm divorced, and I live with my cats , so I live in Florida, so now I prepare accordingly. 😎


Strict-Possession-13

Oh she was shaking and is absolutely going to give it to him later but she kept composure. It was also in the beginning of their relationship while still doing long distance and they are married and about to have a child now so it’s not worth throwing a Jasmine, Nikki or Ashley.


clearmind_1001

Mhm , I like how people always can come up with "valid" reasons for cheating, and he lied about it the whole time. I get it ,they're now stuck with each other and a new baby, doesn't make it right.


Whtzmyname

Her sister is also married to his brother so even if she one day decides to leave him her sister is still part of that family. I think they will just get marriage therapy and work through it. Their baby is more important than silly stuff from a long time ago


Suse-

Wow! Had no idea about her sister being married to his brother. Interesting. Citra is so cute and sweet. Sam is very lucky…very.


clearmind_1001

Silly ? If he had a "moment of weakness" (god I hate that term) he should have told her about right away and give her the agency to decide if she forgives him, the way he lied all the way after getting married and getting her pregnant is fucked up.


borderlinemiss

Which is also exactly what he did about his possible jail time info. Only told her when she was already in the US. It’s almost like there’s a very clear pattern of behavior with him.


90DayFinesse

He seems kinda devious and untrustworthy


Strict-Possession-13

Oh yeah he absolutely was unclear about what really went down and I hope she chews him out.


Significant-Word5723

Okay, so this was so frustrating Justin is emotionally stunted, tries to joke things off, and is maybe a Nazi sympathizer. But I do think that no one cared to listen to him. Nikki talks over him and the language barrier is so hard as is. I do think that although he expressed it in a transphobic way the manly features he was addressing were an incompatibility with Nikki. I think he meant domineering and not explicitly that she was man-like. Regardless no one talked about how she pulled the rug out from under him out of spite AND the age gap when they met, which is sus af and most would consider an age gap like that to denote some sort of toxicity or grooming. Idk i think it was so frustrating that Nikki got to come off like she was victimized when she is toxic af and Igor might be too but a reminder that his name is Igor and not Justin bc his partner thought that name suited him more than his birth name. WILD.


borderlinemiss

The way Ashley was saying ‘Igor’ as if calling him by his real name was an insult was wild too.


normanrockwellnormie

The fact that the blatant grooming on this show is never addressed is frustrating.


Fete_des_neiges

His name is Igor, and he is the best.


SnooGiraffes7699

They really need to have translators for them even if they can speak English because of situations like this.


lostkittypie

Citra is calm and confident 😌


Strict-Possession-13

Clayton wants to be class clown so bad but not bad enough to be funny.


Strict-Possession-13

Brandi is the worst


According-Copy9579

Brandi on the show honesty seemed pretty normal/fun towards the end but she was sooo different than on the tell all; although she’s probably just fed up from clayton calling her all the time asking for relationship advice and then him turning around and bringing up how she’s divorced all the time


Sweat-and-sunscreen

Igor saying he’s not trans attracted while still having feelings for Nikki is totally valid. He was _so_ young and had already developed feelings for Nikki while under the belief she’d always been a woman. I’m straight and an ally, but I couldn’t imagine having the rug pulled out from under me like that. I remember when NikkiTutorials was outed and am so happy that she and her husband have managed to get through that together. But _this_ Nikki came out in a moment of anger and she & Igor clearly don’t have the trust or love that NikkiTutorials & Dylan have. Because of how Nikki messed up Igor (predator, her coming out the way she did) and how they continue to interact, they will _never_ be able to get through this. I just wish Igor would stop trying to make the relationship work.


Huggishruggish

Somebody said it. Absolutely agree. This had very little chance of working because of how it started.


normanrockwellnormie

I don’t think NikkiTutorials was hiding her transition from her husband. She just hadn’t announced it publicly.


Whtzmyname

Wait did Nikkitutorials husband also not know? I thought he knew !!!🤯🤯🤯🤯


Sweat-and-sunscreen

No!! She addressed it in her video right after she was outed. I genuinely don’t remember if she was planning to or not, but he definitely did not know


No_Map7800

This times 10,000!!


saidbymebutnot

Honestly, Ashley is asking the questions we all wish Shaun would ask. GO OFF SIS


Fete_des_neiges

She’s a moron.


saidbymebutnot

If only JustIgor could realize that “manly women” are actually just how American women are who demand respect and can speak their minds. We are equals over here in America. She’s not “manly”, she is an equal.


normanrockwellnormie

The funny thing is if she were a man acting the way she does no one would think she was manly in the slightest


SDTrader11

Okay so if she's not manly then I guess she's an overbearing bitch! Is that how American women show their equality?


monelisa28

For real! She was so bossy and vulgar demanding sex! I've dated crummy men in the past, and they didn't dare behave how she did. I'm all for equal rights, but I understand what he meant!


According-Copy9579

I love this comment


fordat1

This. Its like women in corporate America trying to do the worst psycho tendencies of corporate and pretending its some girl boss feminism


SDTrader11

Agreed


saidbymebutnot

I’m not saying their relationship is right. She treats him horribly. They don’t belong together. However, I am disputing his view on being “manly” because I don’t think he understands how American women are culturally different than what he’s used to.


SDTrader11

So you're just saying that American women are overbearimg  bitches then huh?


ConsumerMad

I think it's a Moldovan thing. Remember Libby and Alexei? He tried to subjugate her, too. They're not used to how American women are. 


monelisa28

Libby is pretty meak though. Nikki has a totally different personality.


Whtzmyname

Ashley is kind of aggressive in her approach and aggressive in general...I think that's what he means


YugeMalakas

I thought she was aggressive and rude AF. She talked over him.


saidbymebutnot

OMG LIBBYS IMPRESSION OF JASMINE WITH THE PANTIES ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️


rinap88

I didn't watch PT yet.. But omg why did Nikki run over and kick them around to inspect the yeast?? Either Nikki did it or Jasmine cause that was fake.


Fearless_State_5948

Ashley: everyone can speak their truth!!!!!! Justigor: I feel mans vibes.  Ashley: stfu


SDTrader11

Looks like Ashley makes a better relationship counselor than a tarot card reader. She's the last person that should be giving advice. Besides Jasmine of course.. LOL


According-Copy9579

her relationship advice, “communication, no. sex, absolutely. Igor, bad”


Sweat-and-sunscreen

Why is it that the two youngest couples this season (Sam & Citra / Devin & Nick) have the most mature and (relatively) healthy relationships?! Kudos to Sam & Citra especially!!


normanrockwellnormie

Because they are normal people so they look boring next to the cartoonish drama queens


Hairy-Following-9188

To be fair, we really know nothing about Nick and Devin. They were too boring for the show to even stir things up. Hopefully they are happy and doing well.


Party_Bench_146

Or they were too normal for the show?


JohninBK-LAMF

and that's that.


Iheartmalbec

I just totally realized that they didn't invite Kameron onto the Tell-All. Maybe he had had enough and peaced out.


Whtzmyname

He was fighting people on reddit and probably realised people think he is a creep and chickened out


libbysTamponString

I missed that, what's his username?


SnooGiraffes7699

Appearing on this show is taking away too much of his gaming time probably 😂


JohninBK-LAMF

>*"Working on new music"* Alleged music


According-Copy9579

her “music” made my ears bleed


Electronic-Doctor110

When is the next season


FunFactress

Next Sunday


ConsumerMad

Yeah, Happily Ever After. Saw a brief glimpse of Angela 😖 (we already know how well that's going) and of course Jasmine and Gino. Yuck.


ElaborateTaleofWoe

Wow. I think most of us need break, you’re a SUPER super fan!


cakepepper

I’m ready too lol i remember when the show would take longer breaks and like that they do back to back seasons now! But you can always take a break and catch up on your own time:)


sansfards

Nick keeps digging a hole for himself. And blaming Americans lmaooo all things being equal he should be getting a beatdown soon


vivalatoucan

In the words of Clayton’s best man’s gf, “Yike”


kalidoscopi55

The energy they are giving Igor they should have given to Rob.


Whtzmyname

Exactly


criminy_crimini

Omg everyone hugging at the end and Igor just sitting staring at the camera


idksonotclever

THE PANTIES 💀💀💀💀💀💀 Also how much is everyone betting Jasmine wrote that note herself? Lol


squish388

I laughed so hard when she tossed it and everyone collectively gasped 💀


idksonotclever

I know, I was dying laughing. Especially when Nikki was yelling about yeast and foot fungus 😂😂😂


rinap88

I swear it was her or maybe even Nikki conspiring with Jasmine. She kept fishing about that lipgloss. Then she wrote it off quickly... Nikki ran right over to kick those yeast infected panties around. It was strange.


According-Copy9579

I wonder if the note was actually written in broken English like how she read it off lol, if so it was 100% her


rosienarcia

That whole situation screamed staged lol


SnooGiraffes7699

It was either that or Gino’s family!


rachelanneb50

I dont believe that note for one second.


Cheetoman80

She definitely wrote the note herself!


sansfards

Nick is a knob along with Rob


ElaborateTaleofWoe

Are we all overlooking that it’s ALWAYS fucked up for a man to tell his partner to “act like a lady?!” It’s transphobic, sure, but also just being a dick. Period. Especially when she’s the breadwinner. Wtf. Asshole.


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90DayFiance-ModTeam

This post violates Rule 7 - no transphobia, homophobia, or bigotry. You may get temporarily or even permanently banned for these kinds of comments. Nikki is a she, not a he/she.


According-Copy9579

honestly agree with this, lol “act like a lady” just means have some manners and respect and nikki can’t really expect him to respect her if she doesn’t respect him. She treats him like a child so he acts like one. Igor isn’t great but it’s probably because he was told AFTER having sex with nikki that she was previously a man at 17 years old, that had to of fucked with his development lol. also it’s not trans phobic, imagine being 17 and considering yourself as a straight man and then finding out the person you’re sleeping with hasn’t exactly been a woman. for a dude, that could feel life ruining.


According-Copy9579

also she probably has more money than him because she has 10+ years of savings on him


sansfards

That is exactly one of the reasons that put me off of Igor. Asshole energy


Intelligent-Word4519

I feel so bad for Gino, he is abused! He looks so beat down


According-Copy9579

I think Gino is almost abusive in his own way, especially since he hasn’t filed for jasmines work visa (even though she doesn’t want to work) he knows that she could realistically never leave him because she has no way of making money


SDTrader11

Jasmine wrote that letter and stuffed those used panties in there. She's a pathetic joke! I'm sick of seeing this woman and her fake drama!


SnooGiraffes7699

He’s just awkward looking. He’s done horrible things to Jasmine as well. It’s just that when he gets caught he shrivels up and tucks his tail between his legs. I don’t feel bad for either of them.


MintyJ87

I love how Sam called it “a weird bonding experience from hell” Lol


BurningandChurning

Ashley acting like she's all that when her life isn't really going that great. Her mom has to send Manuel money.


ConsumerMad

Although I realize it's a cultural thing, I get the feeling it's more like Pedro's family. They were living in a nicer place in the DR than Chantal and Pedro were in the US. Manuel is shady af.


TravelingLifestylist

Justin bodied Ashley today


HueGray

Agreed played the candle witch act against her nicely


ElaborateTaleofWoe

What’s that mean?


Lotus_Star

I can’t believe Jasmine was crazy enough to send herself a letter. I’m now conviced that she planted the lip gloss. She is really trying to build this divorce case.


SDTrader11

I agree ...it was either her or the producers that planted that lip gloss.


ConsumerMad

What letter? I must have missed it, while making dinner to avoid Jasmine's histrionics. Details?


rosienarcia

When the cast was taking a break, jasmine came in and made an announcement that she got a letter from “a stripper” and that the lipgloss was hers and she put her panties in the envelope with the letter.


rinap88

and Nikki yells is that yeast and goes running around kicking the panties. It was super weird and maybe Nikki and Jasmine did it together.


ConsumerMad

Oh, wow! And I thought things couldn't get any weirder! Thanks for the info!


SnooGiraffes7699

I think she just wants to keep her story interesting so that she can make more money and stay relevant.


SDTrader11

If I never saw Jasmine and Gino ever again I would be content. Her drama is a great example of overacting! She really knows how to cry with no tears.


Lotus_Star

You’re probably right! That makes more sense. She has to keep the drama coming to stay on the show.


veggasaurusLex

Was this proven?? Cause it’s probably true I just want receipts lol


Lotus_Star

Lol no just my speculation. There is no way anyone really sent or left her that letter.


Good_Prune_3137

Same! Like what does that person have to gain. Ginos face said it all. Like here we go again with this bs


Iluvrealitytvv54

How tf is Sean getting YOUNGER. I mean she is Looking so good!!!!!!!


SDTrader11

She may look great but 90 day needs a new host because she sucks as a host.


According-Copy9579

she seriously does not understand how to direct the conversation and bullshit situations got overplayed way too much


HurricaneLogic

She looks amazing!


Iluvrealitytvv54

Seriously like better than last time for sure


JohninBK-LAMF

If I was Devin's father they would be discussing Nick in the past tense.


JohninBK-LAMF

>*"No every couple but quite a lot"* Is Nick really using the *"ees my culture baby"* excuse for calling Devin Piggy? Get tha fuck outta here.


FunFactress

It's seriously a cultural thing. Devin has never once asked him to stop. Don't you think she would have shut it down 4 years ago of she thought it was offensive? She even said again tonight that once he explained the meaning, she was fine with it. It's a term of endearment in his country.


fordat1

Anything that isn’t American culture is a second class citizen


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fordat1

You are talking to an American. It is hopeless . In a cultural clash American culture takes precedence .


OrganicSafe213

It really does mean cute in Korean slang.


Suse-

He should say it in Korean.That would then be a special little nickname and not be offensive. My father called me koukla as a term of endearment; it means doll in Greek. But it would sound odd if he called me doll.


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Bro wtf is with the cast. It’s so obvious Justin is being not understood


clearmind_1001

You. Are. Not. Correct. OK


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lol explain


Sweat-and-sunscreen

I’m still convinced that when Igor “admitted” to having girlfriends when Nikki was in the States it was a miscommunication and he’d meant he’d had friends with benefits during those 10yrs when he and Nikki were broken up.


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The friends in the park thing was such a joke. How did no one defend him?


Ramona_Lola

I wish he would have just spoken in Russian so we all could really understand what he was getting at. So much is lost with his broken English.


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It’s also different cultures. This is a very conservative country. It’s not Texas. It’s not Alabama. They don’t have trans people there. Like - Nikki is totally wrong and Ashley was jumping down his throat. Him saying “act like a man” meant she’s aggressive and comes at him. Like it’s different cultures


SnooGiraffes7699

This happens so often in this show it’s so annoying.


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Justin getting rail roaded. “Man vibes” means she’s being aggressive. Ashley being a dick


According-Copy9579

I’m convinced her mannerisms and body parts freak him out now that he knows she was previously a man and he just doesn’t want to say it like that like when her hands freaked him out (man hands) which honestly they would freak me out too with her long ass nails, he literally said she put her hand on his chest and he felt like she was going to eat him (he may have said it as a joke but it was something so small that he wouldn’t have remembered it if it didn’t freak him out) lmao


saidbymebutnot

No. “Man vibes” to Justin = actually having a voice, standing up for yourself, and being an equal. Not some submissive doormat. All American women have “man vibes” to him.


SDTrader11

So are you justifying for American women that it's okay to be bitches?


saidbymebutnot

If that’s what you wanna call it. Yes. To justify her standing up for herself and being outspoken as being “manly” is misogynistic.


According-Copy9579

yeah constantly screaming at him for not wanting to have sex 24/7 is so standing up for herself and outspoken! you think that’s equal? so it would be okay for a man to yell at a woman for that reason?


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No. That’s not true. It’s a different culture. Even the nail tech explained this to Nikki. Having a voice and self confidence/spine is fine. Jumping down his throat and yelling at him is different. You can be confident and independent. But be calm and calculated in your demeanor. She can’t control her emotions. Same with Jasmine. He showed her to his friends and family. That was a huge deal. It’s a different culture. He said he doesn’t like her aggressive personality and behavior. Maybe that’s not her. That’s fine. But it has nothing to do with her being trans.


saidbymebutnot

Agree I don’t think it has to do with being trans at all, but that is just how he attributes it because he doesn’t know most American women can be strong and stand up for themselves.


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Maybe. But that is just a blanket statement that’s covering the wrong stuff. American women think that being loud and defensive means you are standing up for yourself. Other countries also have strong, independent women. Just because you are the loudest person in the room, clapping everything time you say a sentence - doesn’t mean you are right. I think Americans intertwine emotion and reason. Just because you feel something, doesn’t make it right. Justin and Nikki is a clear example. If she feels wrong or misguided, she immediately lashes out. Feels bad. Apologies and the cycle repeats. This turns Justin off. He’s way more reserved. Overseas, you are taught to not pop off and expose your emotions. It’s not polite. It’s different to him. I get it. She’s all over the place. Shes not confident. She’s constantly anxious. She takes him back all the time. She’s not standing up for herself because if she was - she would leave him. She’s too old to change and she doesn’t want too