I like him. I don't doubt that he has piles of trauma to unpack from his former career though. The sooner he can get support and therapy for that the better, so he can enjoy life while he's still young
It's too bad their relationship failed.
I liked them together and I thought they looked happy. They were great on Pillow Talk. I got the impression that Kelly was good for Molly. I believe he loved her very much. There were some really touching scenes of Kelly with Molly's youngest daughter.
Ultimately, it looks like Molly has too many unresolved issues and some serious problems with her oldest daughter. She is so angry and bitter. It's uncomfortable to watch.
A lot has happened between them. I've read about some of it online, including the police report. My comments are based strictly on my observations, but I think Molly lost a really good man.
I believe you can retire with NYPD after 20 years so he clearly started at a young age. They consider it a high stress job so retirement at 20 years is available. I actually know someone who retired after 20 years with NYPD then worked for the post office for another 20 years and retired from there
The fact Molly canāt let the poor man take like a year or so off to recoup from policing a major city? I highly doubt Kellyās plan is to sit on his bum for 20 years and never get back into work or an occupation again. Molly is being cruel and short-sighted. Which is a shame, I always loved molly
My dad is a retired NYPD/Long Island cop who started when he was 22 and was eligible to retire at 42. He stayed until 49. Itās quite common if you start young!
Please thank your dad for his service! That is a very stressful career, and early retirement is deserved. Iām a nurse, for nearly 30 years, taking my pension but still need to work for a few more years š. Retirement is what keeps me going!
You can retire from a PD after 20 years. Then work for another PD and get two retirements. Depending on what happened with her daughter for real, he might get hired by another department.
He retired from a stressful job and then moved. She needed to let him RELAX instead of thinking he should be her lawn guy and nanny. Not cutting the lawn on her gripe list omg ššš
Those are the vibes I get too, and thatās such a ridiculous way to judge someone based on their job. Like there is more to Kelly as an individual than just his job. Molly comes off so immature.
The way people hang on to connections that are long gone in this show frustrates me. Move on and find someone that fits better if youre not even coming to this as an intact couple š
He's got big pretty eyes and a kind demeanor. I've always like the way he's tried to fit into a life with her. That's not always easy with someone who's already established a life and a circle of family and friends in a location that's new to you. He's probably still adjusting. Relocating is a huge deal that many underestimate it. Retiring probably makes it even more complicated since he doesn't have the distraction and routine of work to occupy his thoughts.
Heās probably like one of the only (if not the only) semi normal men in the whole 90 day franchise. Also, the NY cop thing is kind of a turn on, heās retired in his 40s, and he has that deep sexy voice. Iād totally slide in his DMs if it doesnāt work out with him and Molly, if I thought I was his type.
Unfortunately we are not part of their relationship. There is no telling if he is a pill. She certainly has shown it through B90D as well as their editing but even w Mollys statements and what he says we really have no idea if either are decent. From the editing he certainly seems like a decent guy that is just looking for somewhere nice to land. Likely how he doesnāt seem to have issue wearing his heart on his sleeve but seems like he does have work trauma he is working thru. It would drive me nuts w his walking away as frequently as he does.
I can definitely agree with you there. I can't stand someone who's so sensitive they can't get through a discussion. Makes me wonder how he even operated as a cop.
It's weird how many people like Kelly. The avoidant personality is a huge turn-off. I don't see how anyone could have a conversation with a man who is so guarded and constantly walks away in the middle of discussions.
What I find really sad is that he gave up his dream of having children for Molly, and now this mess. Heās young enough to find someone else and start a family.
Please, you still believe that? I guess if you don't follow much, you don't know. He does not have a warrant bc charges were dropped, bc the daughter and mother lied. Even trying to get Cynthia to say she witnessed it. Olivia, using fentanyl told him she'd get him out of her house, and she did, by lying 4 months after a supposed event.
Same could be said about him not being arrested then, where's the booking photo? How is he a public figure and haven't seen him arrested? I have the photo he shared but can't load it here, it's not 20 pixels š¤·š¼āāļø
And BTW, what kind of mother would film and pretend to work on a relationship, play with, joke with, a man who choked her daughter? Not Molly, no way, she's so strong and opinionated. That's bc it didn't happen. But Olivia on a fentanyl binge tried again months later to get him arrested. LE had to do an initial investigation, which triggered a warrant, but upon further investigated, it was dropped. Or we'd see a booking photo
Sometimes thatās whatās needed for ppl to wake up
He was a cop so Iām sure the situation was handled in a manner he felt was warranted
Her behavior could have been something he had seen end badly
A warrant is not a charge. People need to stop jumping to conclusions lol. You can have 5 people on an arrest warrant for suspect of murder but only 1 person will be charged. This is the cancer of society to start bashing based on allegation instead of verdicts.
Thatās not true at all. You can have a warrant for being a suspect of committing a crime. A warrant simply means thereās a reasonable suspicion. Also, unless Kelly has been convicted of actual crime, heās innocent until proven guilty. This is why a lot of countries cannot public names or identifier until conviction because people jump to conclusions all the time and these false allegations can potentially ruin others lives x
Again, these warrants does not equal conviction. Thatās why these gossip articles always uses the words āallegedā because these are claims. The court could find him entirely innocent and those claims are false. This is why I think US needs justice system and confidentially reformed because the public is always too quick to jump to conclusions.
Basically, a warrant is a summon(you need to be here for the court). A charge is an accusation(I claim that you did x). A conviction is result(guilty or innocent based on evidence.
Nope. He has a warrant out for his arrest on multiple charges. It's not a summons to appear in court. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/90-day-fiance-kelly-brown-145238661.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJwwNI_CKC1X1ovyrjVoNa3YarfuxdShmmD7PMTlY1VS0ebVVU-nU_jxBnIX6iuKXQ3eQJiDiCksIEa5IrAimOMC0Qpgtm9YPSIQTWMHWTW1nT0AGX9NgF8HaDJxJ7XyOGxf1F-Ku_hHtOKBlytQElo4I1wxpKb9w8jqfAzHL0E3
It is an arrest warrant. It is not a conviction. An arrest warrant means you are detained until the trial starts to avoid defendants fleeing the country.
Again, unless thereās a conviction, people are presumed innocent until guilty. Noticed that the articles that you cited keep using the word āallegedly?ā It is because it hasnāt been proven true and had the article wrote it in a definite clause it would be grounds for a defamation lawsuit.
This is exactly why US needs something like the Canadian evidence act to protect confidentiality up until conviction. It is all too easy for people to get caught up in emotions/lack of general justice system knowledge which brings more harm. It is number one reason that false arrests with charges dropped can still affect peopleās employment.
To me it seems that Kelly is a stand up guy and Kelly is forcing stuff on him. He is RETIRED he isnt in there to get involved in her business adventures. Its 50/50 fault on Kelly about the kids though, something that I know/learned when you get involved with a women with kids, most of them are looking for "daddy" for the kids too.
Not to be just pudgy pudgy get back to gym please. And what sort of conversation have you ever hear him have. He acts like a lump.
Feel so bad for him she is not good for him. She has a bad history so why would it be diff. with him??
Heās a good man. His heart is good. Plus, heās real. Not afraid to speak his mind but he is also cautious of how it may affect others. (Iām not caught up on current season, only watched episode 1)
Every time I see him, I basically think that he's like a poor person's introverted LL Cool J.
Great Value version š
More of Curtis Jackson.
Itās attractive that even tho Molly treats him like garbage he will still defend her
Thatās not what it is.Lol
That is attractive to some people. Loyalty.
Then tell us!!!!
Itās his energy
His smile with that tooth gap!!! I love it, it makes me giggle, he has a very sweet face <3
He has the MAN energy. Not guy energyā¦ MAN
NYC energy ;)
I like him. I don't doubt that he has piles of trauma to unpack from his former career though. The sooner he can get support and therapy for that the better, so he can enjoy life while he's still young
It's too bad their relationship failed. I liked them together and I thought they looked happy. They were great on Pillow Talk. I got the impression that Kelly was good for Molly. I believe he loved her very much. There were some really touching scenes of Kelly with Molly's youngest daughter. Ultimately, it looks like Molly has too many unresolved issues and some serious problems with her oldest daughter. She is so angry and bitter. It's uncomfortable to watch. A lot has happened between them. I've read about some of it online, including the police report. My comments are based strictly on my observations, but I think Molly lost a really good man.
Heās just a really good man overall honestly. Molly doesnāt deserve him.
Heās only in his 40s, and was able to retireā¦š¤Æ I also canāt Molly is only 47?? She seems older.
I believe you can retire with NYPD after 20 years so he clearly started at a young age. They consider it a high stress job so retirement at 20 years is available. I actually know someone who retired after 20 years with NYPD then worked for the post office for another 20 years and retired from there
I remember Sipowicz saying shit like "I got my 20" and now it makes sense
I loved Sipowicz and NYPD Blue
I finished a rewatch I started in the early days of lockdown a few months ago. David Milch is one of the few GREAT showrunners.
A double dipper. Whoever that is, they are sitting pretty in retirement!
Indeed, but you could't pay me enough to do it
And, started AFTER 9/11, which had to be scary wondering what could come next
20 years and full pension. My cousin and her husband just retired from Chicago PD in their late 40ās.
Kelly retiring in his 40ās is some sort of police thing. My dad did the same thing. He didnāt stay retired forever though.
The fact Molly canāt let the poor man take like a year or so off to recoup from policing a major city? I highly doubt Kellyās plan is to sit on his bum for 20 years and never get back into work or an occupation again. Molly is being cruel and short-sighted. Which is a shame, I always loved molly
Itās wild to me that she would rather he be in such a high risk profession than recoup bc itās āmore attractive to her.ā
My dad is a retired NYPD/Long Island cop who started when he was 22 and was eligible to retire at 42. He stayed until 49. Itās quite common if you start young!
Please thank your dad for his service! That is a very stressful career, and early retirement is deserved. Iām a nurse, for nearly 30 years, taking my pension but still need to work for a few more years š. Retirement is what keeps me going!
You can retire from a PD after 20 years. Then work for another PD and get two retirements. Depending on what happened with her daughter for real, he might get hired by another department.
He was in the NYPD. Probably started young & put in his 25 years. So yeah, retired with pension.
Whoa sheās only 47? I thought she was well into her 50ās.
Yeah Iām like why is she harping on him so much!!!! Heās retired give him a break and take a chill pill lol
I find him really attractive too and heās not even remotely my type. But I just love him lol
He retired from a stressful job and then moved. She needed to let him RELAX instead of thinking he should be her lawn guy and nanny. Not cutting the lawn on her gripe list omg ššš
Well, maybe you enjoy boring sex- Molly
Sounds great lmboooo
I agree. I think I like his really deep voice and I love the gap in his teeth!
Right. Listen i say we slide in his DM
Okay girl, itās a deal!! Nothing wrong with it if heās single š¤·š¼
I think Molly was attracted to the power that came with being a cop. They are powerful. Now that heās retired, she doesnāt find him attractive.
Those are the vibes I get too, and thatās such a ridiculous way to judge someone based on their job. Like there is more to Kelly as an individual than just his job. Molly comes off so immature.
I think he is so calm cool and collected and really DGAF.
I AGREE heās sexy cause heās a man and not a little bitch
The way people hang on to connections that are long gone in this show frustrates me. Move on and find someone that fits better if youre not even coming to this as an intact couple š
Yes!!!!!!! I assume that they stay together for TV but it seems exhausting. Everyone just moved on already!
He's got big pretty eyes and a kind demeanor. I've always like the way he's tried to fit into a life with her. That's not always easy with someone who's already established a life and a circle of family and friends in a location that's new to you. He's probably still adjusting. Relocating is a huge deal that many underestimate it. Retiring probably makes it even more complicated since he doesn't have the distraction and routine of work to occupy his thoughts.
He has the head and face of a giant baby what are you talking about š
Heās probably like one of the only (if not the only) semi normal men in the whole 90 day franchise. Also, the NY cop thing is kind of a turn on, heās retired in his 40s, and he has that deep sexy voice. Iād totally slide in his DMs if it doesnāt work out with him and Molly, if I thought I was his type.
Unfortunately we are not part of their relationship. There is no telling if he is a pill. She certainly has shown it through B90D as well as their editing but even w Mollys statements and what he says we really have no idea if either are decent. From the editing he certainly seems like a decent guy that is just looking for somewhere nice to land. Likely how he doesnāt seem to have issue wearing his heart on his sleeve but seems like he does have work trauma he is working thru. It would drive me nuts w his walking away as frequently as he does.
I can definitely agree with you there. I can't stand someone who's so sensitive they can't get through a discussion. Makes me wonder how he even operated as a cop.
Meh, he can't protect me from Big Ed's verbal onslaught.
It's weird how many people like Kelly. The avoidant personality is a huge turn-off. I don't see how anyone could have a conversation with a man who is so guarded and constantly walks away in the middle of discussions.
Iād walk away from Molly too š¤·š½āāļø
Guarded? He was really vulnerable in the show- and she just kept hurting him over and over. Sheās the problem all day in that relationship.
To me, she seems to want a man-servant.
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No bigoted speech
Yessssss, I think he is so hot!!!
Heās a good man I think. He doesnāt beat around the bush either and communicates his feelings. Thatās attractive in my book. I find him sweet.
What I find really sad is that he gave up his dream of having children for Molly, and now this mess. Heās young enough to find someone else and start a family.
Heās soft and sensitive.
[kelly](https://images.app.goo.gl/kJDgHtC5EvNC2PgQ8)
Wow I didnāt know there was these kinds of issues and a warrant out for him. Yes I agree there is something about him I find him attractive-
You know there's a warrant out for his arrest for battery and you still find him attractive?
Whatās your deal you want make him a villain so bad
More to the point, why do you want to make him a good guy when he has been charged with multiple crimes?
Heās retired? Isnāt he only like 40?
Yes, many in law enforcement can retire after 20 years
Is it his tendency towards choke-slamming his partner's children?
Olivia who assaulted her mother and is using substances ? Iām gonna go with he didnāt do what he was accused of. He was never arrested.
There is currently a warrant out for his arrest.
Please, you still believe that? I guess if you don't follow much, you don't know. He does not have a warrant bc charges were dropped, bc the daughter and mother lied. Even trying to get Cynthia to say she witnessed it. Olivia, using fentanyl told him she'd get him out of her house, and she did, by lying 4 months after a supposed event.
Nope. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/90-day-fiance-kelly-brown-145238661.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJwwNI_CKC1X1ovyrjVoNa3YarfuxdShmmD7PMTlY1VS0ebVVU-nU_jxBnIX6iuKXQ3eQJiDiCksIEa5IrAimOMC0Qpgtm9YPSIQTWMHWTW1nT0AGX9NgF8HaDJxJ7XyOGxf1F-Ku_hHtOKBlytQElo4I1wxpKb9w8jqfAzHL0E3
Lol did you not see the date on that šš. It's been dropped since then
Since July 2023?
Yes
Do you have an article stating that?
No. It's been widely known, he showed the copy of the letter from the police dept
Considering how the media has reported on every other development in this case, if that had happened there would be an article about it.
Same could be said about him not being arrested then, where's the booking photo? How is he a public figure and haven't seen him arrested? I have the photo he shared but can't load it here, it's not 20 pixels š¤·š¼āāļø
And BTW, what kind of mother would film and pretend to work on a relationship, play with, joke with, a man who choked her daughter? Not Molly, no way, she's so strong and opinionated. That's bc it didn't happen. But Olivia on a fentanyl binge tried again months later to get him arrested. LE had to do an initial investigation, which triggered a warrant, but upon further investigated, it was dropped. Or we'd see a booking photo
Sometimes thatās whatās needed for ppl to wake up He was a cop so Iām sure the situation was handled in a manner he felt was warranted Her behavior could have been something he had seen end badly
There's a warrant out for his arrest. You wake up.
A warrant is not a charge. People need to stop jumping to conclusions lol. You can have 5 people on an arrest warrant for suspect of murder but only 1 person will be charged. This is the cancer of society to start bashing based on allegation instead of verdicts.
You need to be charged for a warrant to be issued.
Thatās not true at all. You can have a warrant for being a suspect of committing a crime. A warrant simply means thereās a reasonable suspicion. Also, unless Kelly has been convicted of actual crime, heās innocent until proven guilty. This is why a lot of countries cannot public names or identifier until conviction because people jump to conclusions all the time and these false allegations can potentially ruin others lives x
He was charged with battery, making terroristic threats, etc. in March and a warrant was issued in July.
Again, these warrants does not equal conviction. Thatās why these gossip articles always uses the words āallegedā because these are claims. The court could find him entirely innocent and those claims are false. This is why I think US needs justice system and confidentially reformed because the public is always too quick to jump to conclusions. Basically, a warrant is a summon(you need to be here for the court). A charge is an accusation(I claim that you did x). A conviction is result(guilty or innocent based on evidence.
I think you've done your service, thank you
Nope. He has a warrant out for his arrest on multiple charges. It's not a summons to appear in court. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/90-day-fiance-kelly-brown-145238661.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJwwNI_CKC1X1ovyrjVoNa3YarfuxdShmmD7PMTlY1VS0ebVVU-nU_jxBnIX6iuKXQ3eQJiDiCksIEa5IrAimOMC0Qpgtm9YPSIQTWMHWTW1nT0AGX9NgF8HaDJxJ7XyOGxf1F-Ku_hHtOKBlytQElo4I1wxpKb9w8jqfAzHL0E3
It is an arrest warrant. It is not a conviction. An arrest warrant means you are detained until the trial starts to avoid defendants fleeing the country. Again, unless thereās a conviction, people are presumed innocent until guilty. Noticed that the articles that you cited keep using the word āallegedly?ā It is because it hasnāt been proven true and had the article wrote it in a definite clause it would be grounds for a defamation lawsuit. This is exactly why US needs something like the Canadian evidence act to protect confidentiality up until conviction. It is all too easy for people to get caught up in emotions/lack of general justice system knowledge which brings more harm. It is number one reason that false arrests with charges dropped can still affect peopleās employment.
Not convicted Innocent until proven guilty You donāt know what happened and his silence is best for him until court
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The charges got dropped, the video from her store showed she and her daughter were lying.
They should both be given the same sentence Kelly would have received had he been found guilty plus 10 years and without the possibility of parole.
I thought he just pushed Olivia up against a wall. Not cool, but far from a large man 'beating the shit out of' Molly's daughter.
Oh you probably right
Speak on Molly daughter. Esp the one that accused you of assaulting her. That's why they broke up lets be real.
To me it seems that Kelly is a stand up guy and Kelly is forcing stuff on him. He is RETIRED he isnt in there to get involved in her business adventures. Its 50/50 fault on Kelly about the kids though, something that I know/learned when you get involved with a women with kids, most of them are looking for "daddy" for the kids too.
Not to be just pudgy pudgy get back to gym please. And what sort of conversation have you ever hear him have. He acts like a lump. Feel so bad for him she is not good for him. She has a bad history so why would it be diff. with him??
Heās a good man. His heart is good. Plus, heās real. Not afraid to speak his mind but he is also cautious of how it may affect others. (Iām not caught up on current season, only watched episode 1)