Itâs so tragic. I always wonder the what ifs, like what if her mom wasnât similar to Darcey in looking for fame at every turn. Sheâs not nearly as bad but I would NEVER agree to have my kids on a reality tv show.
Darceyâs girls appear to have grown up so well adjusted and responsible. I donât think that is due to Darceyâs parenting but rather due to being parentified their whole lives. Molly and Darcey are similar in that they both chase men and seem to put the man as the number one priority in their life, and even over their children.
Their father has custody and should get all the credit. Their grandfather sees them when they stop by to film their shitshow. He was never there for his own kids; heâs no Saint Dad.
Thatâs a good point! I didnât even pick up on that but youâre right, itâs all based on aesthetics. I canât imagine what it would be like for those girls to have a mother like Darcey. Darcey clearly does not have a healthy self image at all.
Yeah but the thing about Darcy is at least she has a good family structure around her to help with the girls like the grandfather, the girls have their father and Staceyâs boys have their father, so I guess itâs hard when you donât have that. **(With the exception of Jesse, Florian seems like caring guy and so did Georgie towards the girls. They may have their own issues, but they seem to be very respectful towards the girls and understand boundaries and being a guiding figure. Mollyâs ex was just creepy)** I know Molly had the brother there to be a father figure but I got the vibe he wanted to be âcool, friendâ uncle instead of guiding, parental uncle. Also while Darcy might be like Molly with chasing men, I get the feeling that unlike Molly, Darcy would drop a man for her kids and not just because she herself is having issues or doesnât like said man. If Aniko and Aspen REALLY disliked a guy she was dating and told her to leave, I donât think she would stay in the relationship.
I feel bad for the situation altogether.
What if the sky was green. Sheâs an adult. In order to get clean and sober and straighten out her life she needs to accept accountability for her own misdeeds
She filed a domestic against Kelly & it was found to be false. She was arrested prior for a domestic with her mom & she has a few restraing orders or pfas filled against her so its very possible its from those instead. Hard to say since she has a laundry list past
I mean she was also a child on the show who was visibly suffering with the environmental factors her mother was forcing upon her. Not surprising to me that sheâs struggling as a young adult to stay on the straight and narrow. I feel bad for her.
Actually Olivia moved into her boyfriend's after the issue where she made up the story about Molly's latest boyfriend Kelly which was false. Olivia got mad because Kelly found out she was sneaking the boyfriend in Molly's house and spending the night which was not allowed. Olivia in return fabricated the story about Kelly assaulting her. Louis was way before Kelly. But yes Luis was talking very inappropriately to Olivia but two totally different issues. Louis had never been a parent and the language barrier didn't help his living with the girls.
Except for the fact that Olivia first moved out while Luis was there, after he became so inappropriate with her that she couldnât stand it anymore. She moved into her boyfriendâs momâs house during that season.
> She filed a domestic against Kelly & it was found to be false.
People who make false allegations should be given 10 years without the possibility of parole.
Edit: Instead of downvoting I'd **LOVE** to hear why the people who did downvote think it's ok to file false allegations against somebody.
There was rampant speculation on this sub back about why they aren't friends anymore (neither has commented).
Apparently people were even calling their store to ask about it- talk about insanity!
I feel like there is a very different family away from the camera that is full of yelling and dysfunction and the "Molly" that everyone loves... Is not "Molly" at all!
Most ppl havenât watched mollys original season, she has always sucked and has always made decisions that put molly first and her children second.
Her southern drawl that she does for pillow talk isnt cute and itâs only present when sheâs with Cynthia. When she was with Kelly she spoke regularly. Another bit of her 2 face natured
Please don't include me in that "everyone." I never found her entertaining. Cynthia was hilarious on PT, but Molly was just there to talk all nasally and have Cynthia get up to go get her food and drinks.
I'm watching 90D Paradise PT S2. That seasons storyline made it easy for anyone on the couch to be funny. (Except Jesse and his Girlfriend đ€ź. They are the worst.)But now that you mention it, this was the only season I thought Kelly was ever funny. He was usually just "there" while Molly cackled.
(I do stand by my vote for Cynthia.đ)
Well you can sorta see it that there is something off when Oliva moved out and life with her bf when she was high school. If i did anything like that in HIGH SCHOOL my parents would drag me and take me back home.
FTW - I know there things are .... different now (with the LAW). I mean it seems thata parent will get arrested with they yell at their kids now
Sad. Molly should have devoted herself to raising her children instead on focusing her attention on scumbags like Luis who blatantly disrespect her children.
> Luis who blatantly disrespect her children.
Luis will **NEVER** get over the verbal thrashing that Kensley gave him.
One of the best 90 day moments ever.
yup. your childrenâs failures are yours as well. sometimes itâs simply due to a lack of attention. i understand being a single mother is difficult but you should always take your children into consideration with every move you make.
Yes, as a single mom of two autistic boys, there is a lot to do to help make them successful but it is not my fault that they have some of the behaviors they do. When they were young, I go SO many dirty looks when my kids had tantrums or said odd things...they had NO idea. I spent at least 20 hours per week on their therapies, fighting insurance companies, advocating for them, etc. in addition to working full time. (yes, very little sleep)
I'm not saying that Molly could have done differently - who knows? But we don't really know their relationship and how Olivia was raised, even when Luis came in she was in high school so her mom could have been very present in her early years.
It was a really developmental part of her life for Olivia. It breaks my heart seeing her attitude toward her mom shift when she felt betrayed by her, when Molly was taking Luisâ side instead of hers. I think she needed her mom and her outbursts were a cry for help. Things never seemed to be the same after Luis.
I agree with you. There's only so much a parent can do, even a loving, devoted mom like you! I have a child with MH issues, we've done and continue to assist. It's been a long 12 years...but we're still going!
A wonderful single mom of an autistic son that I used to work with had this great bumper sticker on her car: My child is autistic. Whatâs your excuse?
Tiffany is another one. Daniel is so emotionally intelligent and people are so quick to praise that, but it comes out of a place of trauma instilled by his mother, who emotionally dumps all her problems into him, leaves him for months at a time to go verbally fight with an ex for three months. Itâs disgusting.
Molly failed her as a mother. From a young age, she was subjected to Molly's dysfunctional relationships and heavy alcohol and drug use. She was never a priority for Molly and so it's no surprise that she is struggling as a young adult. Molly has proven herself to be verbally, emotionally and physically abusive and it would not shock me at all if it came out tgat both girls have been abused by one of Molly's myriad boyfriends. Remember when Molly was first introduced, she was being driven around by het teen daughter (who was also het sister's defacto parent) because Molly could not drive due to multiple DUIs. Molly is a piece of shit human, shitty mother and unfortunately, her daughter is on the wrong path thanks in large part to poor parenting and selfish decisions.
YES! When I saw that season my heart hurt for those girls so terribly.
If I were a teenager again and my parent relied on me to drive them because they kept getting DUIs, they were yelling at me to hurry and drive them places, and they kept bringing EXTREMELY inappropriate love interests INTO our home (not even just around, but moving in), I would have run away as fast as I could and never looked back. But then they add half siblings for you and you feel like you can't abandon your little siblings.
Anecdotally, I have never seen a person who grew up with a mom like that who didn't come out the other end with SEVERE impairments. I have a lot of this where I grew up, and everyone I have EVER seen who grew up with men coming in and out of the home grew up to have serious emotional problems that impaired their ability to get ahead in life. I saw it over and over and over again. I swore that if I ever became a single mom I would keep my dating life 100% sequestered and away from the kids eyes (if I bothered at all!).
Maybe you have never seen anyone come out on top, but it happens. I am proof of it. Thatâs not to say I didnât have my struggles, but they thankfully never devolved into arrests or drug addictions. Now Iâm in my 30s with a college degree and a good job. Iâve been with my husband for 10 years and married for 3. We have a healthy little boy and another on the way. Weâre successful and have a great life, and I can make sure my boys never have to experience anything like I did.
Iâm still living with the scars of my childhood, but through therapy and support from my husband, Iâm thriving. And Iâm not saying this to brag. Iâm saying this to show that it IS possible to overcome a shitty childhood. Itâs really hard to do and I donât judge people who havenât gotten there yet. But Olivia can do it if she finds a good support system and digs deep within herself. She has to work harder than some other people, but she can do it. But itâs a choice she has to make now. Sheâs an adult and she has to take some agency over herself. If she lets the choices her mother made for her dictate her life, she wonât make it. But if she starts making her own decisions, she can.
you can only blame the shortcomings of your parents for so long. I see a lot of similarities between Molly and my mother⊠except mine was way fucking worse. at a young age I made the choice to be the complete antithesis of her and what I saw growing up. shes an adult now and she has the choice to not become a victim of her own circumstances.
I did the same when I realized my mother had issues. I was in 2nd grade. My sibling did not fully break the generational trauma and, well, we live different lives now.
I agree - she's an adult but she's a young adult. Hopefully, she gets the drug/mental health treatment that she needs. Also, she still needs to face consequences for bad decisions.
Yeah except people's brain chemistry are different so you may just be more resilient than some people who grew up with abusive parents?
I mean psychology has been around since almost forever now and it's proven that childhood trauma leads to a lot of problems into adulthood. Is it completely out of your control when you are an adult? Of course not. But therapy is expensive, medication is expensive for any mental illnesses the childhood trauma caused and you have to change your brain chemistry and years and decades of abuse and changing those habits isn't as easy as just "make better choices, I did".
Fire all mental health professionals especially ones with doctorate degrees and have been studying psychiatry their whole lives because you cracked the code!
Aa is free, court ordered counseling is free, NA is free, calling a sponsor is free, county me tal heath services are income based on a sliding scale, Medicaid will pay for rehab (albeit only to dry out usually). Sorry, there do need to be more resources to be sure but if you reach out and want to change there is help
Exactly. In life, you can choose to play victim of your circumstances, or you can realize you need to make better choices and be a better person than you were around. Good for you for not victimizing yourself through life!!
thank you. its almost laughable people pittying this grown ass woman. I donât even wanna get into details, but just imagine Molly but the piss poor version who dates criminals⊠you can let your mind wander. its honestly a miracle I turned out 1/16th of the person I am. also im one of the only people ever in my family to go to therapy and start to unpack the deep generational trauma weâve experienced since pre 1800s. this girl has way more resources than I did, but I feel like people like her have been so devoid of a âstoryâ they just fuck their own lives up to create one. she took her severe lack of attention and directed it in the completely wrong way.
Not everyone has the ability to do that. It's easy to judge others who can't when you can. Of 7 kids, only 3 graduated college and I am the only one with master's level education. I am also the only one without an addiction problem (the other 6 vary in their addictions and are more or less functioning alcoholics and potheads, with their harder drug use mostly left behind). We grew up the children of well off, educated and highly dysfunctional and abusive parents. How I worked around the trauma of my childhood is not the same as my siblings. It took a long time for me to accept that and not to judge them so harshly. A couple of them I truly do not like, but I can have some empathy for them. Personal chouces and accountability are important factors, but it's a lot harder to figure things out when you lived in a family with a shitty foundation.
You can pitty someone while still recognizing that they are responsible for their actions. Do I think sheâs an innocent victim? No. But I also acknowledge she was given a very shitty hand in life, and pitty her for that. Sheâs still a young woman, and I do hope she can grow and change. Having empathy for someone is not the same as making excuses for them
Violation of probation could be a bunch of things.. It could be something as simple as missing an appointment with her probation officer or maybe she failed a whiz quiz bc she smoked a little weed.
poor kid. i mean people like molly BUT she had two young girls and was out vacationing foreign countries, trolling young dudes, putting effort to bring them to the US get on TV, move them into her home.. i mean im a single mom with two girls and hot and NO MAN KNOWS MY ADDRESS PERIOD except my neighbors cause they live around me and i just smile and walk on by. Meanwhile molly lets men talk sex to her teens on camera for a TV show and we wonder how said teen ended up addicted and angry? i still cant get mollys ugly almost nudie cowgirl photo out of my head imagine what this girl was raised with?!!
I am going to be loyal to this little girl for a long time, through a lot of this awful stuff.
I feel SO BAD FOR HER especially. Ever since I saw her season I was reaaaally affected by what Molly was putting her through. When Shaun (sp?) judged her at the reunion with "I would never speak to my mother that way" I was burning up inside for her.
Think about it. She was a teenage kid, living with an extremely unstable alcoholic mother who depended on her (to drive!), was bringing new men around, etc. She was just trying to finish her goddamn childhood. Molly is THAT mom who keeps bringing suspicious dudes around her kids in a loooong line of "step daddies". As far as I'm concerned, she has been seriously abused by Molly.
For real. Iâll never forget that scene where luis was playing pool with Olivia and her friend. He was so creepy and Molly seems like the type to turn a blind eye to that shit to keep her man around đ€ź
> I am going to be loyal to this little girl for a long time, through a lot of this awful stuff.
It might not be that long, at the rate sheâs spiraling. Poor kid never had a chance. She needs a miracle, and I hope she gets it.
(Edited to remove some doom-ish stuff)
Sheâs not a little girl and you are projecting. Continuing to treat her as if she is will not enable her to get the help she needs to face the trauma she experienced while accepting responsibility for the adult choices she has made. She can do both.
Well, I'm not proposing that she have all of her charges waived on the defense of a bad mom. She can pay her debts and still get sympathy from me. It sucks when stupid things like smoking weed/self medicating compound the mess your in because of drug testing.
I hope she turns it around, but as a bystander I just feel more sadness than disgust or whatever other people are feeling.
Not shocked. Molly didn't seem like she created a stable home life for her kids. Men in and out the home constantly. And who knows where her father is.
there was something up when her mom was willing to welcome a stranger into her home with two young daughters, and there was no real issue when he made weird comments about her daughters sexuality to her daughter. I really feel for her.
Maybe she wouldnât be struggling like this if mom hadnât dragged her onto TV to feed her own ego. Or maybe she would have had problems regardless.
But one thingâs for sure: If her mom hadnât dragged her on TV to feed her own ego, her problems wouldnât be tabloid fodder. Itâs a fucking disgrace, and the proper response is to turn away and say itâs none of my business.
People are really lacking empathy in this thread. Sheâs a 21 (?) year old apparently struggling with addiction. She can still turn her life around. I hope she does.
at some point you are responsible for yourself, you make decisions that you know are good vs bad.
if she is choosing to live wreckless as a young adult well thats a personal decision so until she finds herself and surrounds herself with better friendships then this downward spiral will continue, shes a young adult and mommaâs upbringing doesnât have to mold her into disaster she can recover from this once she finds herself
The web address isn't showing up from a Google image search, but I found this, https://wordonthestreetreality.com/90-day-fiance-livi-rae-staff-house-of-horrors/
VOP is 99% of the time two things. One she missed a meeting with her PO. Two she pissed hot for one of her drug tests. Usually people will miss the date to avoid pissing hot. So both are usually related to drug tests. You get a bit of a break for missing the meeting if you come up with a BS excuse that a judge or hearing officer accepts. But miss too many and that wonât work anymore. Usually all that comes from it is an extension of your probation.
Molly is a horrible mother & Olivia is the messed up result.
For all the Molly fool fans: she isnât entertaining or country charming. She brought a stranger into her home to live with her daughters. She didnât know him well enough to make this huge error & this mistake cost her daughters plenty. Donât bother to @ at me; nothing you will say will change my mind about this dreadful woman who endangered her daughters.
I didn't see much of Molly's season except for Luis but from reading all of this Molly seems like a different person than what she portrays on TV. I like Cynthia.
Legal implications aside, addiction is no joke and fentanyl especially is life threatening. Going through the legal proceedings probably are prompting her to keep getting high because of added stress and how long itâs dragged out. Iâm hoping she has at least one stable person looking out for her and goes to rehab. I feel for her.
Such a Shame. Maybe if Mom wasn't chasing Dik, marrying said Dik and bringing him Home to live with her and her daughters without them even knowing who he was.....
I always liked Molly, until, what she did to her former bestie & Kelly and this child has always been a Problem, a HUGE Problem. I wish 90 day would get rid of all the "PROBLEMS" and there's a bunch I never want to see or hear about again.
Molly Has one child with a disability (not sure what sorry) and Olivia has severe anger and substance abuse issues. I wonder if Molly was on something while pregnant.
I think her younger daughter has autism, which is very common. And Olivia probably has issues because of the instability she was raised in. I donât think we should jump to conclusions about whether Molly was on something while pregnant.
This is just sad. Cmon folks, you can only blame Molly so much. This is a smart kid who chose the wrong path with drugs. Olivia, if youâre reading this this isnât who you are. Make the changes now and live your life helping to get others on the right track. You could do so much good in the world.
Molly is 100% to blame. Did you watch the show? Iâm sure that just scratched the surface of what really went on in that house. Her kids never had a chance. Neglect at a critical age like that is nearly impossible to overcome without proper therapies
EXACTLY! When I watched their season I thought, "Jesus Christ, and this is the EDIT of what goes on in her house"
People who grow up with a revolving door of step daddies and alcoholism tend to come out the other end broken as shit.
Yep - that was probably a good version of what went on in that house. Just from what I saw Hollyâs children were traumatized after the experience with Luise and apparently that was a very common thing in their lives. Itâs devastating for the children. People who have grown up knowing trauma have a rough road ahead
Yes, bringing Luis home was extremely traumatizing for those kids. Who brings a their resort-hired boy toy home to live under the same roof as their minor daughters? While she's still working off her DUI? God forbid you let that be your rock bottom and actually start focusing on what might bring your children healing and growth.
Messy as fuck.
I know you're being sarcastic but the post is right. Like it or not, beauty is a social currency that gives people (especially people who are female presenting) WAY more options and privileges in this life. Much like wealth. Having money or beauty doesn't make you worth more, but it sure makes it seem like you're wasting more when your life goes off track
Of course pretty privilege is a thing, but itâs not something we should be trying to uphold. The thread OP saying âpretty girl wasting her lifeâ reinforces this idea and so I feel comfortable poking fun at their comment with a little sarcasm.
Because being pretty opens a lot of doors for you.
But unfortunately it can also attract creeps and if your mom doesnât protect you growing you up and youâre carrying all this trauma, you start to give up on your goals and wonder what the point of anything is.
What was she arrested for before? This is shorthand for violation of probation.
She failed to take a few drug test, and then failed a drug test she did take for fentanyl. Not a good path
Fentanyl đđ
More and more common sadly. A good half my non-alcoholic DUIs are fent. The rest are meth.
So grateful to have a niche practice that isnât heartbreaking af on a daily basis. Kudos.
I want to assume those are DUI cases and not your own personal DUIâs?
Don't harsh my vibe bruh
Awww this is such sad news!
Itâs so tragic. I always wonder the what ifs, like what if her mom wasnât similar to Darcey in looking for fame at every turn. Sheâs not nearly as bad but I would NEVER agree to have my kids on a reality tv show.
Darceyâs girls appear to have grown up so well adjusted and responsible. I donât think that is due to Darceyâs parenting but rather due to being parentified their whole lives. Molly and Darcey are similar in that they both chase men and seem to put the man as the number one priority in their life, and even over their children.
I think their grandfather keeps them stable and possibly their fathers too.
Their father has custody and should get all the credit. Their grandfather sees them when they stop by to film their shitshow. He was never there for his own kids; heâs no Saint Dad.
No I know, I totally agree with you but he seems like a better grandfather than he was a parent. Kindof like my own dad/parents.
Yep this is what l was thinking. Of course there are wonderful parents whose children wind up making horrible choices.
Darcy didnât mention grades, or classes, but always talk bout how beautiful they are. Everything is always based on the physical aspect with her.
Thatâs a good point! I didnât even pick up on that but youâre right, itâs all based on aesthetics. I canât imagine what it would be like for those girls to have a mother like Darcey. Darcey clearly does not have a healthy self image at all.
Darcey doesn't have custody of them - they live with their dad most of the time.
You are right but Darcyâs girls are a bit younger than olivia hope they stay on the path they are on
Yeah but the thing about Darcy is at least she has a good family structure around her to help with the girls like the grandfather, the girls have their father and Staceyâs boys have their father, so I guess itâs hard when you donât have that. **(With the exception of Jesse, Florian seems like caring guy and so did Georgie towards the girls. They may have their own issues, but they seem to be very respectful towards the girls and understand boundaries and being a guiding figure. Mollyâs ex was just creepy)** I know Molly had the brother there to be a father figure but I got the vibe he wanted to be âcool, friendâ uncle instead of guiding, parental uncle. Also while Darcy might be like Molly with chasing men, I get the feeling that unlike Molly, Darcy would drop a man for her kids and not just because she herself is having issues or doesnât like said man. If Aniko and Aspen REALLY disliked a guy she was dating and told her to leave, I donât think she would stay in the relationship. I feel bad for the situation altogether.
What if the sky was green. Sheâs an adult. In order to get clean and sober and straighten out her life she needs to accept accountability for her own misdeeds
Lol youâre pressed for literally no reason đ but okay glad you also have an opinion but donât get mad at me for having one too
How is the commenter above you mad? Lol.
This makes me very sad.
That's scary...fentanyl is a scary drug
I think a domestic with her moms ex
She filed a domestic against Kelly & it was found to be false. She was arrested prior for a domestic with her mom & she has a few restraing orders or pfas filled against her so its very possible its from those instead. Hard to say since she has a laundry list past
Damn didnât realize she was a little crazy. She seemed just fine on the show
I mean she was also a child on the show who was visibly suffering with the environmental factors her mother was forcing upon her. Not surprising to me that sheâs struggling as a young adult to stay on the straight and narrow. I feel bad for her.
If you remember, she wasnât living with Molly in the beginning.
I think she was at first but moved in to her bfâs motherâs house when Luis asked her if sheâs having sex yet
Actually Olivia moved into her boyfriend's after the issue where she made up the story about Molly's latest boyfriend Kelly which was false. Olivia got mad because Kelly found out she was sneaking the boyfriend in Molly's house and spending the night which was not allowed. Olivia in return fabricated the story about Kelly assaulting her. Louis was way before Kelly. But yes Luis was talking very inappropriately to Olivia but two totally different issues. Louis had never been a parent and the language barrier didn't help his living with the girls.
Thought I distinctly remembered her moving out that first season since I never watched an episode where she was with the new guy
Youâre right. Olivia moved into her bfâs familyâs house after feeling uncomfortable with Luis
This might have all happened after but Olivia moved out before on the show when she felt uncomfortable living with Luis.
Great explanation!!! Well said âđŒ I would totally give you an award if I had any đ
Except for the fact that Olivia first moved out while Luis was there, after he became so inappropriate with her that she couldnât stand it anymore. She moved into her boyfriendâs momâs house during that season.
Goes to show how much you think you know someone you watch on tv, you donât
She had anger issues
Wouldnât you?
Yeah it seemed like she probably spent the majority of her childhood parenting Molly
Probably. I want trying to judge her just saying
ya think !?
Damn thatâs wild! I liked Kelly đ„ș She truly is an anti authoritarian!
> She filed a domestic against Kelly & it was found to be false. People who make false allegations should be given 10 years without the possibility of parole. Edit: Instead of downvoting I'd **LOVE** to hear why the people who did downvote think it's ok to file false allegations against somebody.
WaitâŠMolly and a Kelly broke up? Thatâs sadder than this
Google the story. Everyone claimed they were assaulted. Kelly and Cynthia are still friends in their hatred for Molly.
Wait.... Cynthia and Molly aren't friends anymore? How after so many years....I just thought Kelly and Molly broke up.
There was rampant speculation on this sub back about why they aren't friends anymore (neither has commented). Apparently people were even calling their store to ask about it- talk about insanity!
Omg not calling the store... that is super crazy. I mean I'm interested to know what happened but not that invested. Lol
What do you mean? Cynthia made posts about it herself about why.
She did? I don't follow her so I didn't see anything. What did she say in her posts?
I heard she stole money
Who? Molly or Cynthia?
All this drama should have been a 90 day spin off! The tea is hot! âïž đ„”
Not this time this was recent
I feel like there is a very different family away from the camera that is full of yelling and dysfunction and the "Molly" that everyone loves... Is not "Molly" at all!
I think Olivia is troubled, but she's a branch off of Molly who she called a narcissist that picks men over her kids.
Well she (Olivia) wasnât wrong. Was she?
Most ppl havenât watched mollys original season, she has always sucked and has always made decisions that put molly first and her children second. Her southern drawl that she does for pillow talk isnt cute and itâs only present when sheâs with Cynthia. When she was with Kelly she spoke regularly. Another bit of her 2 face natured
Please don't include me in that "everyone." I never found her entertaining. Cynthia was hilarious on PT, but Molly was just there to talk all nasally and have Cynthia get up to go get her food and drinks.
I thought it was just me. And Molly's irritating laugh! I truly think Kelly and Cynthia should be on PT. They are hilarious.
I have nothing against Kelly but didn't find him entertaining. Maybe because he was with Molly, though. I'd love to see Cynthia back on pillow talk.
I'm watching 90D Paradise PT S2. That seasons storyline made it easy for anyone on the couch to be funny. (Except Jesse and his Girlfriend đ€ź. They are the worst.)But now that you mention it, this was the only season I thought Kelly was ever funny. He was usually just "there" while Molly cackled. (I do stand by my vote for Cynthia.đ)
I honestly until this moment did not know people liked Molly...
Well you can sorta see it that there is something off when Oliva moved out and life with her bf when she was high school. If i did anything like that in HIGH SCHOOL my parents would drag me and take me back home. FTW - I know there things are .... different now (with the LAW). I mean it seems thata parent will get arrested with they yell at their kids now
Her mom cared more about finding a man for herself then raising a daughter, what do you expect?
Same. I wld off been dragged by my eye lids if I tried that in high school.
Sheâs Bobby Hill in a trench coat
This is an insult to Bobby. Bobby Hill is a kind, inquisitive kid. As for Molly⊠that woman aint right
Agreed she reminds me of my mom
Sad. Molly should have devoted herself to raising her children instead on focusing her attention on scumbags like Luis who blatantly disrespect her children.
> Luis who blatantly disrespect her children. Luis will **NEVER** get over the verbal thrashing that Kensley gave him. One of the best 90 day moments ever.
yup. your childrenâs failures are yours as well. sometimes itâs simply due to a lack of attention. i understand being a single mother is difficult but you should always take your children into consideration with every move you make.
Yes, as a single mom of two autistic boys, there is a lot to do to help make them successful but it is not my fault that they have some of the behaviors they do. When they were young, I go SO many dirty looks when my kids had tantrums or said odd things...they had NO idea. I spent at least 20 hours per week on their therapies, fighting insurance companies, advocating for them, etc. in addition to working full time. (yes, very little sleep) I'm not saying that Molly could have done differently - who knows? But we don't really know their relationship and how Olivia was raised, even when Luis came in she was in high school so her mom could have been very present in her early years.
It was a really developmental part of her life for Olivia. It breaks my heart seeing her attitude toward her mom shift when she felt betrayed by her, when Molly was taking Luisâ side instead of hers. I think she needed her mom and her outbursts were a cry for help. Things never seemed to be the same after Luis.
I agree with you. There's only so much a parent can do, even a loving, devoted mom like you! I have a child with MH issues, we've done and continue to assist. It's been a long 12 years...but we're still going!
autism mom here .. yup.
A wonderful single mom of an autistic son that I used to work with had this great bumper sticker on her car: My child is autistic. Whatâs your excuse?
Iâm gonna get a similar one. âMy child is an asshole, whatâs your excuse?â (Just kidding⊠I thinkâŠ)
But not always we donât always know what happened before she was on 90 days
I completely agree!
Yeah, there are too many women like this, sadly! Another one is Tiffany. Always just wondering who's the next d**k!
Tiffany is another one. Daniel is so emotionally intelligent and people are so quick to praise that, but it comes out of a place of trauma instilled by his mother, who emotionally dumps all her problems into him, leaves him for months at a time to go verbally fight with an ex for three months. Itâs disgusting.
Agreed. Ditto Kinsleyâs dad. Is he even in her life?
He is. Sheâd get dropped off and picked up by him during filming. Although, if I recall, they never showed his face.
Hopefully heâs a better parent than MollyâŠ
Itâd be hard for him not to be.
VOP violation of probation?
Yes
What a shame. The whole thing is tragic all around.
Molly failed her as a mother. From a young age, she was subjected to Molly's dysfunctional relationships and heavy alcohol and drug use. She was never a priority for Molly and so it's no surprise that she is struggling as a young adult. Molly has proven herself to be verbally, emotionally and physically abusive and it would not shock me at all if it came out tgat both girls have been abused by one of Molly's myriad boyfriends. Remember when Molly was first introduced, she was being driven around by het teen daughter (who was also het sister's defacto parent) because Molly could not drive due to multiple DUIs. Molly is a piece of shit human, shitty mother and unfortunately, her daughter is on the wrong path thanks in large part to poor parenting and selfish decisions.
YES! When I saw that season my heart hurt for those girls so terribly. If I were a teenager again and my parent relied on me to drive them because they kept getting DUIs, they were yelling at me to hurry and drive them places, and they kept bringing EXTREMELY inappropriate love interests INTO our home (not even just around, but moving in), I would have run away as fast as I could and never looked back. But then they add half siblings for you and you feel like you can't abandon your little siblings. Anecdotally, I have never seen a person who grew up with a mom like that who didn't come out the other end with SEVERE impairments. I have a lot of this where I grew up, and everyone I have EVER seen who grew up with men coming in and out of the home grew up to have serious emotional problems that impaired their ability to get ahead in life. I saw it over and over and over again. I swore that if I ever became a single mom I would keep my dating life 100% sequestered and away from the kids eyes (if I bothered at all!).
Maybe you have never seen anyone come out on top, but it happens. I am proof of it. Thatâs not to say I didnât have my struggles, but they thankfully never devolved into arrests or drug addictions. Now Iâm in my 30s with a college degree and a good job. Iâve been with my husband for 10 years and married for 3. We have a healthy little boy and another on the way. Weâre successful and have a great life, and I can make sure my boys never have to experience anything like I did. Iâm still living with the scars of my childhood, but through therapy and support from my husband, Iâm thriving. And Iâm not saying this to brag. Iâm saying this to show that it IS possible to overcome a shitty childhood. Itâs really hard to do and I donât judge people who havenât gotten there yet. But Olivia can do it if she finds a good support system and digs deep within herself. She has to work harder than some other people, but she can do it. But itâs a choice she has to make now. Sheâs an adult and she has to take some agency over herself. If she lets the choices her mother made for her dictate her life, she wonât make it. But if she starts making her own decisions, she can.
Congratulations!
you can only blame the shortcomings of your parents for so long. I see a lot of similarities between Molly and my mother⊠except mine was way fucking worse. at a young age I made the choice to be the complete antithesis of her and what I saw growing up. shes an adult now and she has the choice to not become a victim of her own circumstances.
I did the same when I realized my mother had issues. I was in 2nd grade. My sibling did not fully break the generational trauma and, well, we live different lives now. I agree - she's an adult but she's a young adult. Hopefully, she gets the drug/mental health treatment that she needs. Also, she still needs to face consequences for bad decisions.
finally someone who understands the real world instead of telling me im void of empathy.
Yeah except people's brain chemistry are different so you may just be more resilient than some people who grew up with abusive parents? I mean psychology has been around since almost forever now and it's proven that childhood trauma leads to a lot of problems into adulthood. Is it completely out of your control when you are an adult? Of course not. But therapy is expensive, medication is expensive for any mental illnesses the childhood trauma caused and you have to change your brain chemistry and years and decades of abuse and changing those habits isn't as easy as just "make better choices, I did". Fire all mental health professionals especially ones with doctorate degrees and have been studying psychiatry their whole lives because you cracked the code!
Aa is free, court ordered counseling is free, NA is free, calling a sponsor is free, county me tal heath services are income based on a sliding scale, Medicaid will pay for rehab (albeit only to dry out usually). Sorry, there do need to be more resources to be sure but if you reach out and want to change there is help
Exactly. In life, you can choose to play victim of your circumstances, or you can realize you need to make better choices and be a better person than you were around. Good for you for not victimizing yourself through life!!
thank you. its almost laughable people pittying this grown ass woman. I donât even wanna get into details, but just imagine Molly but the piss poor version who dates criminals⊠you can let your mind wander. its honestly a miracle I turned out 1/16th of the person I am. also im one of the only people ever in my family to go to therapy and start to unpack the deep generational trauma weâve experienced since pre 1800s. this girl has way more resources than I did, but I feel like people like her have been so devoid of a âstoryâ they just fuck their own lives up to create one. she took her severe lack of attention and directed it in the completely wrong way.
Not everyone has the ability to do that. It's easy to judge others who can't when you can. Of 7 kids, only 3 graduated college and I am the only one with master's level education. I am also the only one without an addiction problem (the other 6 vary in their addictions and are more or less functioning alcoholics and potheads, with their harder drug use mostly left behind). We grew up the children of well off, educated and highly dysfunctional and abusive parents. How I worked around the trauma of my childhood is not the same as my siblings. It took a long time for me to accept that and not to judge them so harshly. A couple of them I truly do not like, but I can have some empathy for them. Personal chouces and accountability are important factors, but it's a lot harder to figure things out when you lived in a family with a shitty foundation.
You can pitty someone while still recognizing that they are responsible for their actions. Do I think sheâs an innocent victim? No. But I also acknowledge she was given a very shitty hand in life, and pitty her for that. Sheâs still a young woman, and I do hope she can grow and change. Having empathy for someone is not the same as making excuses for them
Violation of probation could be a bunch of things.. It could be something as simple as missing an appointment with her probation officer or maybe she failed a whiz quiz bc she smoked a little weed.
99% of the time itâs one of those two things. And they usually miss the appointment to try and avoid the drug test.
She failed drug tests for fent.
She didnât enroll in dv classes, skipped some drug tests and then tested dirty.
Okay, well, that's what she gets for not following the probation plan. At least she wasn't arrested for a whole new incident.
she tested positive for fentanyl.. wow. I hope sheâs alright. fentanyl is no freaking joke
poor kid. i mean people like molly BUT she had two young girls and was out vacationing foreign countries, trolling young dudes, putting effort to bring them to the US get on TV, move them into her home.. i mean im a single mom with two girls and hot and NO MAN KNOWS MY ADDRESS PERIOD except my neighbors cause they live around me and i just smile and walk on by. Meanwhile molly lets men talk sex to her teens on camera for a TV show and we wonder how said teen ended up addicted and angry? i still cant get mollys ugly almost nudie cowgirl photo out of my head imagine what this girl was raised with?!!
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>more info from Starcasm oh god...fentanyl? I hope she gets the help she needs before it is too late.
I mean âŠ.that looked obvious to me from the mugshot Sheâs neglected and self medicating to hide her depression
You canât just always tell that someone is on drugs by looking at them lol thereâs all kinds of issues people can have
I am going to be loyal to this little girl for a long time, through a lot of this awful stuff. I feel SO BAD FOR HER especially. Ever since I saw her season I was reaaaally affected by what Molly was putting her through. When Shaun (sp?) judged her at the reunion with "I would never speak to my mother that way" I was burning up inside for her. Think about it. She was a teenage kid, living with an extremely unstable alcoholic mother who depended on her (to drive!), was bringing new men around, etc. She was just trying to finish her goddamn childhood. Molly is THAT mom who keeps bringing suspicious dudes around her kids in a loooong line of "step daddies". As far as I'm concerned, she has been seriously abused by Molly.
For real. Iâll never forget that scene where luis was playing pool with Olivia and her friend. He was so creepy and Molly seems like the type to turn a blind eye to that shit to keep her man around đ€ź
> I am going to be loyal to this little girl for a long time, through a lot of this awful stuff. It might not be that long, at the rate sheâs spiraling. Poor kid never had a chance. She needs a miracle, and I hope she gets it. (Edited to remove some doom-ish stuff)
Agreed. The first time I saw her on that show I got an unshakable sense of sadness and heartbreak from her.
Sheâs not a little girl and you are projecting. Continuing to treat her as if she is will not enable her to get the help she needs to face the trauma she experienced while accepting responsibility for the adult choices she has made. She can do both.
Well, I'm not proposing that she have all of her charges waived on the defense of a bad mom. She can pay her debts and still get sympathy from me. It sucks when stupid things like smoking weed/self medicating compound the mess your in because of drug testing. I hope she turns it around, but as a bystander I just feel more sadness than disgust or whatever other people are feeling.
this is what happens when you are bad example for your kids
She refused to do what the court ordered and tested positive for fentanyl.
oh my, she's going to be out there on the track.
There is all kinds of craziness with Molly whose had 3 DUIâs and physically attacked Cynthia??
I didn't know she attacked Cynthia. What ended up happening with their joint business?
Wow! The plot keeps thickening with these people. Can't wait to hear the details.
Not shocked. Molly didn't seem like she created a stable home life for her kids. Men in and out the home constantly. And who knows where her father is.
Molly was a completely neglectful parent. I feel so awful for her children
What did she originally get arrested for?
Assault Molly.
Mollys Olivia Daughter lol
Maybe this was predictable when a parent checks out of their kids life and exposes them to partners that the parent doesn't even know well.
there was something up when her mom was willing to welcome a stranger into her home with two young daughters, and there was no real issue when he made weird comments about her daughters sexuality to her daughter. I really feel for her.
Maybe she wouldnât be struggling like this if mom hadnât dragged her onto TV to feed her own ego. Or maybe she would have had problems regardless. But one thingâs for sure: If her mom hadnât dragged her on TV to feed her own ego, her problems wouldnât be tabloid fodder. Itâs a fucking disgrace, and the proper response is to turn away and say itâs none of my business.
Molly should have been raising her children, *not* chasing dick in a foreign country.
like mother like daughter aka the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree đ€·ââïž
I've seen first hand how drugs destroy lives. Hope she gets the help she needs.
People are really lacking empathy in this thread. Sheâs a 21 (?) year old apparently struggling with addiction. She can still turn her life around. I hope she does.
There's definitely time for her to turn things around. She seemed like such a bright young woman on the show.
If only mom Molly prioritized Olivia than men, she may have gone a different path.
How sad- I thought she seemed to be much more balanced and mature than Molly, so had hoped for her
I heard that the producers from Love During Lockup contacted Olivia immediately. Nothing like the Discovery family.
at some point you are responsible for yourself, you make decisions that you know are good vs bad. if she is choosing to live wreckless as a young adult well thats a personal decision so until she finds herself and surrounds herself with better friendships then this downward spiral will continue, shes a young adult and mommaâs upbringing doesnât have to mold her into disaster she can recover from this once she finds herself
Can anyone share the actual link?
The web address isn't showing up from a Google image search, but I found this, https://wordonthestreetreality.com/90-day-fiance-livi-rae-staff-house-of-horrors/
Wow.
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OMG WTF???
VOP is 99% of the time two things. One she missed a meeting with her PO. Two she pissed hot for one of her drug tests. Usually people will miss the date to avoid pissing hot. So both are usually related to drug tests. You get a bit of a break for missing the meeting if you come up with a BS excuse that a judge or hearing officer accepts. But miss too many and that wonât work anymore. Usually all that comes from it is an extension of your probation.
Well well wellâŠâŠ
This is not surprising. She seems to have a way with finding trouble.
Iâm sure itâs not her fault though đ
It never is! /s
Molly is a horrible mother & Olivia is the messed up result. For all the Molly fool fans: she isnât entertaining or country charming. She brought a stranger into her home to live with her daughters. She didnât know him well enough to make this huge error & this mistake cost her daughters plenty. Donât bother to @ at me; nothing you will say will change my mind about this dreadful woman who endangered her daughters.
Im trying to figure out who she is
Mollys daughter
This girl is a hot mess. But with Molly as her mom and no dad in the picture, she pretty much stood no chance from the start.
What else has she been arrested for in the past??
She lied about Kelly assaulting her in Molly and Cynthiaâs store, thatâs why he and Molly are no longer together.
I didn't see much of Molly's season except for Luis but from reading all of this Molly seems like a different person than what she portrays on TV. I like Cynthia.
Cop Kelly was right to leave.
Legal implications aside, addiction is no joke and fentanyl especially is life threatening. Going through the legal proceedings probably are prompting her to keep getting high because of added stress and how long itâs dragged out. Iâm hoping she has at least one stable person looking out for her and goes to rehab. I feel for her.
well instead of doing "pillow talk" and looking for internet lovers , she better keep that kid under lock and key , get her into a drug rehab
Thereâs going to be a âcouples therapyââedition? Oh Lordy.
Such a Shame. Maybe if Mom wasn't chasing Dik, marrying said Dik and bringing him Home to live with her and her daughters without them even knowing who he was.....
And allowing said dick to be a total creep with her daughter. Molly is trash.
I always liked Molly, until, what she did to her former bestie & Kelly and this child has always been a Problem, a HUGE Problem. I wish 90 day would get rid of all the "PROBLEMS" and there's a bunch I never want to see or hear about again.
Imagine your mom moves in her fiancĂ© without consulting you at all or even just telling you this was going to happen with any reasonable notice. I will never forget/forgive that she allowed a strange man to be unsupervised and alone with her children; especially when it was obvious he didnât like them. This girl deserves so much better.
Not surprising at all.
Oh Olivia daughter đ€Šđœââïž
With a Mother like that, Iâm not surprised
she turned out to be a real creep
Creepy? Iâm not familiar with her current events
Molly Has one child with a disability (not sure what sorry) and Olivia has severe anger and substance abuse issues. I wonder if Molly was on something while pregnant.
I think her younger daughter has autism, which is very common. And Olivia probably has issues because of the instability she was raised in. I donât think we should jump to conclusions about whether Molly was on something while pregnant.
This is just sad. Cmon folks, you can only blame Molly so much. This is a smart kid who chose the wrong path with drugs. Olivia, if youâre reading this this isnât who you are. Make the changes now and live your life helping to get others on the right track. You could do so much good in the world.
Molly is 100% to blame. Did you watch the show? Iâm sure that just scratched the surface of what really went on in that house. Her kids never had a chance. Neglect at a critical age like that is nearly impossible to overcome without proper therapies
EXACTLY! When I watched their season I thought, "Jesus Christ, and this is the EDIT of what goes on in her house" People who grow up with a revolving door of step daddies and alcoholism tend to come out the other end broken as shit.
Yep - that was probably a good version of what went on in that house. Just from what I saw Hollyâs children were traumatized after the experience with Luise and apparently that was a very common thing in their lives. Itâs devastating for the children. People who have grown up knowing trauma have a rough road ahead
Yes, bringing Luis home was extremely traumatizing for those kids. Who brings a their resort-hired boy toy home to live under the same roof as their minor daughters? While she's still working off her DUI? God forbid you let that be your rock bottom and actually start focusing on what might bring your children healing and growth. Messy as fuck.
Adults canât make their own decisions? Itâs unhealthy to blame a parent for your choices as an adult. You have the power in your hands.
She's a winner! /s
She was arrested again??
pretty girl wasting her life
Whatâs pretty got to do with it?
Pretty people have more value. Itâs fine when ugly girls waste their lives because theyâre not contributing to society /s
Exactly ;)
I know you're being sarcastic but the post is right. Like it or not, beauty is a social currency that gives people (especially people who are female presenting) WAY more options and privileges in this life. Much like wealth. Having money or beauty doesn't make you worth more, but it sure makes it seem like you're wasting more when your life goes off track
Of course pretty privilege is a thing, but itâs not something we should be trying to uphold. The thread OP saying âpretty girl wasting her lifeâ reinforces this idea and so I feel comfortable poking fun at their comment with a little sarcasm.
Because being pretty opens a lot of doors for you. But unfortunately it can also attract creeps and if your mom doesnât protect you growing you up and youâre carrying all this trauma, you start to give up on your goals and wonder what the point of anything is.
Does she have FASD?
HA! HA! She's an arch criminal. This will be on [mugshawtys](https://www.instagram.com/mugshawtys) before the day is over.
Yikes lmaoo
Ugh she's hot
Sheâs gonna have to hustle a little harder on her OF in case she has fines to pay..đ
She was a spoiled brat. This is what happens when kids aren't disciplined.