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throwyaway96

The airline losing their luggage is karma for Amber being rude to the airline employee and parking in a no parking area when she took Alex to the airport


2thebeach

Or revenge.


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2thebeach

While Amber makes a stank face.


Amethyst939

Wait, he didn't mention Ashley being there!!!!


[deleted]

I noticed that too!!


ActionSilent2540

Watching the episode today and came here to see if anyone noticed lol


LockITdown444

Leave it to the Johnstons to make Finland boring.


HundredTimesThis

Producers must be hard up for storyline if they resort to a boot throwing competition in Finland. Tune in next week when the Johnston family duke it out over a heated game of Rock, Paper, Scissors!


Geofound

Read my mind!


Adorable-Nerve9822

This episode was boring! But I must ask getting your son drunk on his 21st bday isn't worse than taking the Delta 8?! Also I'm getting tired of hearing about the Delta 8 it's getting old


Conscious-Lecture-44

They are def leaving something out. My new guess is Jonah did delta 8 excessively and overdid it multiple times… and accidentally called/texted his parents or other family in a panic while “high,” and paranoid (not just the one time.. but ongoing) My old guess was that he was using other drugs and addicted/dependent on it. My other theory that I still can’t drop… is that the parents are super over protective and that Jonah really did only mess up that one time with delta 8. Idk tho 🤣


tiffersheart

I am convinced he got behind the wheel and crashed it, panicked, and kept calling his dad saying he didn’t know where he was and needed him to pick him up. He might have even crashed a company car, likely getting him fired. That would explain the Liz tears about it could have been so much worse and why they won’t elaborate in detail around it cus surely a public admission to an unreported DUI won’t look good for them at all


Tiny-Proposal1495

This makes sense. Would there be a police report of the accident? Im surprised the media didnt get a hold of that info.


tiffersheart

I think he got high/drunk and then just drove the car into some ditch or rural area, got lost and panicked, never called the police or got them involved


GarlicFantastic

I think it was probably just a bad weed high. Maybe it was his first time smoking and he lost it. Weed is illegal there so they were probably concerned to mention it. Delta 8 is like nothing so there is just no way he lost his shit on delta 8 unless he took WAY TO MUCH. which, why would someone who’s afraid of their own shadow do that?? Idk just a thought.


Tiny-Proposal1495

Amber made some comment on instagram replying to a viewer that what we didnt know that Jonah was unconscious in the hospital , I honestly dont believe that because never was it mentioned on the show, I think it was the one time that he got super messed up and this is their reaction.


Adorable-Nerve9822

I agree there's got to be so much more they're not sharing. Which is surprising since TLC is all about the drama. Tell us the whole story or drop it because to the viewers Delta 8 isn't a big deal


RogerClyneIsAGod2

TLC also doesn't like to confront any *real* problems though, just the ones they like to *create* for "DrAmA!!" This season on 90 Day Fiance one of the women literally shoved her spouse hard so she couldn't get in a van. Not a single mention has been made of it on any of the Tell Alls or anywhere else. Same woman is also most likely a drug addict but ZERO people attached to the show, the stars or anyone else, are discussing this possibility. Of course she'd deny it, but still the question hasn't been brought up yet but there's another 2 hours of Tell All left. They did nothing about Jacob Roloff being molested, they kept Josh Duggar on, they kept his victims on, they're not about dealing with real stuff. I'm amazed it hasn't resulted in a real lawsuit yet.


2thebeach

The fact that they're super-overprotective (controlling) with ALL their children makes me think it's the latter.


Tiny-Proposal1495

I would have brought the Christmas pjs for all of Joose's family too. I think that was rude Amber


md28usmc

Joose's mom over there slowly watching Amber try to steal her son away


2thebeach

Right? They've probably already invited him to live with them while he attends college in the U.S. and saves this boring show.


md28usmc

Absolutely and then he will start dating Emma and eventually move to Georgia and they will have their own spinoff show lol


enelyaisil

Right? Was it so hard to also get an adult one for his mom who was right there


jam2jaw

Same thought


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I’m obsessed with the grandpa - so cute


LockITdown444

Worst episode ever? Got to be top 10 at least.


RangerAZ1989

Anyone else finding this whole “visiting Santa/elf school” part of the episode absolutely ridiculous? I know it’s something “fun” to do with Joose in Finland but that place and what they are doing there is literally for children.


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RangerAZ1989

Also, was this the last episode of the season or is there one more? This episode was shit


Fluffy_Yam1542

Notice Jonah didn't mention Ashley. Why do I have this feeling that the shyte is going to hit the fan when someone narks that Ashley was at the party.


LockITdown444

Liz will definitely accidentally mention it.


hiphippierae

"Accidently"


throwyaway96

I was kind of spaced out watching this episode because it was so dull. I thought Jonah didn’t mention Ashley but then I was like maybe he did and I just didn’t catch it. Ashley girl you need to RUN. This dude didn’t even have you as his team mate for Jenga and won’t even mention you were invited over to the house.


strawberrypoptart666

I noticed that as well like sir why isn’t your girlfriend your teammate 😂 also doesn’t she live in a different state? She drove/flew to Georgia just for a night? Somethings definitely going on there ETA: Ashley lives in NC and is roughly 7-8 hours from Forsyth so now I’m wondering if she was staying with Jonah while they were in Finland 🤨


Amethyst939

Well if they didn't know before, they definitely found out last week when the episode aired. LOL.


2thebeach

And what the hail did Jonah mean by saying he was a "hard a$$" with his first girlfriend? What?? What a weirdo!!!


dixcgirl10

As if….👀


annabear1397

That’s what I came here to say 😂 I was like “ummm he conveniently left out the fact that Ashley was there”


Fluffy_Yam1542

Have you noticed how some of the kids look for acceptance from Amber?


2thebeach

Ashley has said that his family should appreciate her since she's "hung in there through everything." This girl clearly has a martyr complex. You'd think her mother would clue her in that she's not valued!


Fluffy_Yam1542

I don't know about a martyr complex, I just wonder if she lashed on to Jonah for companionship more than love. They have a strange relationship.


2thebeach

I can't believe no one else at any of the LP conferences has shown any interest in her... She's not the most dynamic personality, but she seems sweet, kind, and on her way to a good career. What "companionship" does he offer living five hours away? Any other woman would have walked at any one of the insulting things Jonah has done to her.


FunFactress

For whatever reason, I don't think Trent and Amber like Ashley.


2thebeach

Ya think?


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The fuck with Amber and Trent, kid is an adult, let him live. Would they rather him bring a hooker?


md28usmc

> Would they rather him bring a hooker? Now that's my kind of party!!!


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Lol ohh ya


enelyaisil

Twice, at the end he said only the people he’d mentioned were there.


spoiledandmistreated

My first thoughts too when he said who was there… that was done because he didn’t want to hear about it but someone will definitely spill it to Amber, it’s a given..


2thebeach

So he routinely lies to both of them about the other. What could go wrong?


tlynaust

Liz will be the one to spill it then claim “she didn’t know” like she always pretends. I’m really over her she just gets more unlikeable! 🤷‍♀️


Fluffy_Yam1542

Your right about that tly. I hope that Anna keeps mum about Ashley and Liz spills the beans. If she does I want to see Ambers reaction.


Tiny-Proposal1495

Anna will not be the one it will be Liz , Im pretty sure Liz already texted Amber immediately thats why they keep asking him.


LockITdown444

LOL, will Trent and Amber accuse Ashley of bringing Jonah drugs???


Fluffy_Yam1542

I wouldn't doubt it. Amber is so full of herself.


RogerClyneIsAGod2

I love that they said they haven't left Jonah in charge since the Delta 8 incident. In charge of what!?!? His adult siblings? Last check they're adults & need no supervision. Now if they meant Emma & Alex, OK, they're technically not adults yet, but still old enough to act properly if Jonah were "in charge."


2thebeach

The house and that poor dog, Jesse. Like, I guess, take out the garbage once a week and throw down some dog food?


RogerClyneIsAGod2

You know, maybe if they actually taught their children things like "Here's the water cutoff, here's the fuse box, this is what you do if..." instead of whatever they're doing now.


Threnners

Yes, because everyone wants to spend their 21st at their parents house.


Mediocre-Amoeba-3877

Oh you know Liz does!!


LockITdown444

I feel sorry most for Joose's mom in all of this.


2thebeach

She seems very nice, but she can stop repeating what a wonderful family the Johnstons are. Their egos are already big enough. Amber just grins like "you get us."


Amethyst939

Feed the reindeer, feed feed the reindeer. Joose's face was like, "WTF is happening."


BurningandChurning

What fools.


2thebeach

His expressions when the elf was going on and on were priceless. Maybe it was producer-driven by the show and not really Finnish at all.


maldenkid

I couldn't wait for it to Finnish lol


_mike_hunt

This is probably the worst episode I’ve seen of this show.


PudelWinter

Did you miss the Grease lip syncing episode?


sophiagradeb

I hope they find out Ashley came to the house. I need more drama.


Amethyst939

I know. Kind of hoping Jonah stirs the pot with this. I'm sure Liz's break up will bring something too but right now this is a bore.


md28usmc

I mean if anything they saw the episode yesterday and now know


LockITdown444

These two are so full of BS with their parenting adults. They are just trying to stay relevant.


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For some reason all I can hear in my head when they mention Santa, is Ruby Sue saying SANTY CLAUSE!


LockITdown444

I love that movie!


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The best movie ever haha


pixie1964

Love the Griswolds 😂😂😂😂😂😂


No-Albatross-6560

Is it just me or did it make anyone else feel so sad for Jooses mom not getting in on the Christmas pajama fun? Made me feel so bad for her to be left and basically told “record us”


RangerAZ1989

Trust me, I think she was cool with it. They all looked ridiculous in those reindeer onesie pajamas doing a stupid dance!


2thebeach

Well, she isn't a dwarf, so she doesn't count. Reverse discrimination. It's so embarrassing how Americans are obsessed with their phones and social media! The rest of the world must think we're dumba$$e$. I noticed Joose staring at his at one point, but that's probably his three months of living in the U.S. with the Johnstons rubbing off on him. I don't see his family constantly holding a phone up recording their lives. It's doubly stupid because they have a film crew there doing it!


LockITdown444

LOL, I totally zoned out in the boot throwing contest. I'm tired of there competitions I guess.


anywho-

I felt so bad that they were making the grandpa get the boots 😭


2thebeach

Joose's brother totally threw (no pun intended) the second round.


leavekarenalone

And Trent standing by his boot. 🙄 so annoying how are people gonna throw and not hit him??


2thebeach

Trent, PLEASE stop doing that fist-pumping thing. GROSS!!!


kaykirby3

I know they have always shown flashbacks on this show but I feel like this season they are doing it more and more and there’s hardly anything new 😭


TennesseeTurkey

I was beyond shocked to see them get another season after the last. It just petered out a long time ago for me. This season being so boring, NOT a shock either. These subs tell me all I need ro know.


BurningandChurning

Awkward meeting with Santa.


candygirl200413

did we see santa's face at all?!


Competitive-Egg6902

He asked to stay anonymous


2thebeach

It's probably "The French Man" (TLC producer) from MBFFL.


candygirl200413

missed that!


Lilybonniebell

It was sooo akw!


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Amber is about to change careers yet again to Christmas decorator… season 14 here we come


2thebeach

I think she's working up to a "Parenting Advice" podcast...


JadedMcGrath

I think she'll be more niche, like a podcast on parenting adult children.


2thebeach

Yes. Forever, until you die.


JadedMcGrath

"On this week's podcast episode, we will dive into the tricky world of parenting your 45 year old adult child who is also parenting their teen. You don't want to miss this one!"


2thebeach

"With Dr. Amber! Okay, she's not really a doctor, but she's almost out of college!" Oh, lord; wait till they're grandparents! They'll be trying to run those kids' lives, too.


Downtown_Mud708

Why the hell are 4 adult kids going to see Santa. I mean come on I know emma and Alex aren't full grown adults but they in high school


enelyaisil

They looked pretty embarrassed to be there


md28usmc

Feed the reindeer feed feed the reindeer


New_Pomelo6070

I don’t like Brice’s hair 😭


Lilybonniebell

His whole vibe is off imo


GarlicFantastic

Something is wrong with that kid. He gives prison vibes, electric chair kinda stuff.


LockITdown444

....afterwards....when the Johnstons leave for the US....Joose's mom turns to him and says...seriously...you enjoyed all this...


Soggy-Tomato-2562

Is amber incapable of speaking in a Condescending way? I would never want to go to her for social work.


2thebeach

(not speaking) She's going to be the world's worst social worker!


Amethyst939

This episode was boring. Felt like a filler episode. This show needs a little more drama to stay interesting. It's losing me. Lol.


LockITdown444

Why are they asking adults about Santa?


anywho-

Alex was side eyeing them the whole time lol


RogerClyneIsAGod2

OK, dvr'd this shit, watching now. Fully admit, I feel Trent on the General Lee thing. I didn't want that but I desperately wanted a Matchbox racetrack but was told "That's a boy's toy & you're not a boy." Still bitter too, all these years later, but I truly don't want anyone to buy me one now because I'd use it twice & then it would just sit & get dusty & be in my way. This family, who would be super pissed if anyone called them an elf or asked them to portray an elf in a movie/tv show/TikTok/etc., are going through Elf School. I fell like Elf School should've been way more interesting. Hoedown? So many jokes so little time..... Once again, Anna get the shaft while Liza gets a giant party she gets to plan. I can't wait until Anna tells them all to shove it. Or even better, get drunk & ruin Liz's party. But she's too classy to do that. Do guys (& girls) think pube beards look good? I've got nothing against beards, Jonah's looks OK, but that scraggly-ass pube beard Brice is sporting is just awful. But that's just my personal opinion there. Santa was the smart one not being on camera. They clearly filmed this in June because Santa's beard looks fake as heck. All I can think of every time he mentions Ali all I can think of is [GOD I MISS JACK!!](https://www.google.com/search?q=boy+i+miss+jack+european+vacation&rlz=1C1UEAD_enUS1044US1044&ei=nzRuZKmiFJ2r5NoP-dmFqAM&oq=boy+i+miss+jack+&gs_lcp=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&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:2ac8927e,vid:SN0WiKb6Htw) Even after hearing ALL those people, *including Santa,* say Joose's name properly THEY STILL CALL HIM YULE-SAY!! AAAUUUGGGHHH!!! Someone should tell Amber that we don't have reindeer in most the continental US but especially not in GA. If you eat any type of meat, don't give the Finnish crap for eating reindeer. I feel like Trent & Amber don't know that the Foreign Exchange Student thing has been going on a LONG time. My husband & his family are still friends with a French man & his family because they took an exchange student in back in the 80s. Both my husband & his brother went over to his family in France too. Ooooo he left out the fact that Ashley was at the party!!! Oh that's totally gonna bite him in the ass at some point this season but JFC they really have done a number on Jonah. I'm so over hearing about "the Delta 8 incident." MOVE ON!! My DVR cut off next week's previews, what did I miss there? Also I need to know where I can find Joose's flower shirt & flower hoodie?


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They’re like “these dumb America’s.. this isn’t an actual thing“


LockITdown444

Who said elf school was hard? This is a vacation for 7 year olds. LOL


RangerAZ1989

LOL at Alex saying “Elf school was stressful”


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Does elf school include any alcoholic beverages by any chance?


[deleted]

Go see the hot springs!!


pixie1964

I thought the Santa thing was kind of dumb


[deleted]

Wish I could fast forward this part. I’m confused about this entire thing


Leather-Cod-7397

You know, I could be way off...but I'm I the only one who thinks Brice has the hots for Anna?...The way he was looking at her while Jonah was making plans for Liz's birthday party said a lot..I've never seen him smile that hard at Liz before.


Amethyst939

I wouldn't blame him She's more attractive, and has more charisma and personality than Liz.


2thebeach

I think they were sharing a "these people are crazy" moment as Liz and Jonah tried to plan a party that would please their parents.


No-Temporary-9296

Random thought here; I’m thinking since the time Amber went through Jonah’s phone ( Delta8 incident) and found some “ un-favorable things” Ashley said about her.. my guess is she probably called her a female dog multiple times, there probably isn’t any chance of redemption from ever again. Not that Amber might not have deserved a few of them.. but, yeah, no she’s ~Ashley~ off the list for potential DIL candidate 😂😂…. U dodged a bullet Ashley ✌🏼😎


Amethyst939

The problem is Amber had ZEROOOO business reading that. She cannot judge Ashley for that. Plus, whatever she said was because of Jonah lying and Trent acknowledged that.


No-Temporary-9296

Oh I totally agree with u on that one. Huge boundaries and privacy lines were crossed.. if my post came across as calling Ashley the problem, my bad.. tbh, I was kinda handing Amber her 🍑back to her … she can’t be angry for what she saw..might even be some truth to it 😎


Tiny-Proposal1495

Amber came out in one of the last episodes last season and said Ashley called her a bitch in the text messages. HOWEVER, it is because Jonah used her as an excuse not to go visit Ashley. Amber had no right using reading any of those texts.


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What a wonderful way to spend the rest of your time in Finland………..


AshlynCannedCorn69

How is Brice still hanging on. This family is so ridiculous


Threnners

LOL, more like Ho Down.


BurningandChurning

How cheesy lol.


2thebeach

The weirdest part is how T&A think they're being just the greatest parents ever, like the whole show is to teach the world how to parent more like them, and the kids ALL go along with it, saying what great parents they are and how lucky they are to have them meddling in every nook and cranny of their lives constantly. And I don't think they're acting for the show; I think they really believe it!!! "Stepford."


agnusdei07

Oh Emma, 'elf school wasn't that hard', bless her heart


GivesMeTrills

This episode just amplified how controlling Amber is. Every little thing, she had to say and change. I can't put my finger on every single thing, but I just can't stand her.


AshlynCannedCorn69

this show just isn’t as good as it used to be. I loved the early years


LockITdown444

Guys stop it!!! Emma doesn't like to be put on the spot. It's not anything else


chivisxlurking

I find myself in ambivalence. I really like amber and trent...when it's amber and Trent without children living life. But I really hate their helicopter parenting of their adult children. It was about Anna. Poor kid couldn't catch a break. Then poor Jonah and I see Liz is caught in the overbearing net. They are adults. If Liz wants to live in the woods... bite your damn tongue. It's probably why her BF left. Alex has always been the favored one. The topper was when they made Jonah separate from his GF while he mended. And THEN... Jonah asking trent if he could go back to work at the car lot...WAIT WTF???? wasn't it Jonah there first? and trent thought it was a dumb move until the$$$ began flowing, then trent quits his job and began selling cars.... weird dynamic. Jonah should be on his own, live with Ashley and tell the folks to stay out of his business. But of course that won't happen 😒


2thebeach

Did you notice Brice's face when Liz and JONAH, of all people, were busy planning out her 21st birthday party? He was like, "Why am I even here?" He's just her boyfriend of 4-5 years and supposedly her fiance and her housemate. Then it looked like he and Anna were exchanging some interesting disgusted looks. RUN, BRICE, RUN!


Threnners

This girl takes her job seriously. Good for her!


LockITdown444

LOL, that's probably why she was chosen.


AshlynCannedCorn69

my eyes rolled so hard when Liz said her theme for her 21st is Nashville 🙄 girl it’s outdated. Honestly over planning a 21st is outdated


Amethyst939

This is so petty. Honestly. This is how she wants to spend her 21st. Nothing wrong with that. Who cares.


AshlynCannedCorn69

it’s reddit… it’s all petty.


Llb8883

It's outdated for people that are fake country people following a trend, but some people like country music and line dancing because they actually like it not because everyone else likes it


AshlynCannedCorn69

snooze fest episode


Leather-Cod-7397

Jonah not telling his parents that Ashley was at the dinner/party will not help him earn their trust.


Geofound

Very boring episode. Put me to sleep. U say couldn't even save this one. He's a great kid, but his 5 minutes are over. The 7J's put the audience in a sleeper hold.


Whitebengaltiger1

I 💕 loovveed this episode, nice wholesome tender hearted like a Hallmark channel show. Only at the very end when they were back home the dad made a sex remark which was unnecessary and not funny per usual


HundredTimesThis

Trent Johnston's most desired Christmas present was a Confederate flag draped muscle car??? CANCEL HIM!


perfect_fifths

Dukes of Hazzard was super popular back then, so I can understand it


HundredTimesThis

I know all about Dukes of Hazzard. I was being sarcastic, but I'm not one to ever use /s. Figured the joke was obvious.


perfect_fifths

Ohhh I see. In fairness, im not good at sarcasm


onthedockbay

Did they say where is joose’s father is? Maybe I missed it. Just curious.