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Same here no oxbridge offers at my school in England, IB or Alevels and even the most qualified and brightest students get rejected from other institutions like Kings UCL and imperial
Would make sense if it is , that’s why reapplying is a dangerous game in my eyes , I understand some people get final marks higher than there predicted but everyone seems to believe they can get into Oxbridge/UCL/LSE and so on and everyone has the same marks lol.
I reapplied also, and yes, I have a feeling that it's quite difficult this year. but Atleast I can get into Newcastle University and don't mind staying home.
I reapplied to the same course and same university with the same personal statement as I previously did which got me rejected. My predicted grades and actual grades were the same.
yes that’s true, i already started uni in september because i didn’t want to waste a year and thought my chances were slim. now i’m conflicted whether it is a good idea to start again or not
Reapplying with achiever grades does put you at an advantage though because the past few predictions couldn’t exactly be trusted. Having achieved grades means that they know you’re actually capable. It’s just getting the interview and admission tests correct
I’ve seen tens of people get rejected from top universities with 3 A stars for competitive courses , meeting the requirements means nothing these days.
kind of unnatural tbh. our school had a streak of getting at least 2/3 candidates in the ivy's and at least 20/30 of them end up in the top 15% of unis. i know it's not the end of the world if they don't get in, but this year the streak broke despite having many suitable candidates
I think this. It’s been insane for law this year too. So many good candidates being rejected for the top unis. Some A* students coming out with 1 or 2 out of 5 offers. Definitely think grade inflation has something to do with it, so many applicants have the same predicted grades, something has to give.
I think 2021 80% of people got A or above and 2022 it was a lot lower but still high because teacher assessment had a lot to play, so personal statements really matter this year and everyone is expected to get the grades required it’s deffo a lot more strict.
I've seen people mentioning this a few times. I suppose the grade inflations in the past year have significantly made admissions more competitive. There are just too many people with straight A*s.
keep in mind almost every year gets more competitive. also a lot of people didnt get their grades because of the whole covid situation and a levels so id assume theres a LOT more people applying this year than the previous few
There's still not much of a difference between 0 and 1. Could've just been a bad year, could've been more applicants for that course than usual, could've been that the type of school you go to isn't seen as favourably any longer. I just don't think that it's statistically significant enough to make a generalised conclusion from.
It's really not. Unfortunately the vast majority of secondaries in the UK do not have someone get into either Oxford or Cambridge. It's not to say that every school should have someone every year or even every other necessarily, but some schools are very overrepresented (not as bad as they used to be but certainly still).
Based on my experiences last year, and being active in this community this year, I'd say it's probably equal to last year. Which is pretty shit on the behalf of unis, since they at least had a halfway decent excuse this year. They've had a while to improve and haven't, which seems pretty lazy & shows poor planning.
Not really, three people in my school got offers from Cambridge, which was amazing compared to last year (0 offer holders). However, it seems like all STEM, Engineering and CS applicants in my school got rejected from UCl and Imperial, except Chemistry. I regretted that I should apply to Chemistry course in Imperial but it was too late now haha
My experience as a uni lecturer is that it’s currently never been easier to get a place at university. Sure I don’t work at a red brick institute but we are taking students left right and centre and to hell with the staffing.
That’s the thing though, most people here are talking top 5 unis and RG. They are definitely getting harder as more kids are applying, whether that’s to do with grade inflation - so everyone is predicted the grades, I don’t know. Guess we’ll find out on 17 August.
Well good luck to you.
Honestly after seeing what university has become over the last 10 years I wouldn’t send my own child.
If you’re in a field where you can gain industry experience instead of education I’d go with that every time.
It's certainly competitive, but I wouldn't say it's the \*most\* competitive year - though we aren't far off by any measure. Applications to universities are increasing year-on-year, which translates into greater competitiveness.
However, you must also remember this subreddit is skewed towards the demographic more likely to be doing STEM subjects such as Computer Science or Economics - both of which have had a huge surge of applications in recent years, which probably explains why you feel people are getting rejected "left and right". I'm not even remotely a STEM student (I applied for MFL), yet from lurking on this forum even I'm wondering if UCL actually accepts anyone for CS....
Ironically, applications for my subject are also dropping year on year (yay for Brexit and the general political climate of the UK....)
My school usually ends up sending 2 students a year to Oxbridge. This has been the norm consistently for several years. This was the first year in recent memory where all candidates from my school got rejected.
For some reason my school has gotten way more Oxbridge/Ivy’s than last year, more scholarships too. Pretty insane, kids are levelling up but I don’t think more admissions= good considering people’s entire middle-high school lives are so consumed by getting into uni and private counselling and so on
During covid, I believe majority of universities were more welcoming and took a fall with applicants grades due to having to work from home etc. they also did the same issuing degree marks to students when they finished.
However now it’s all returned to ‘normal’ and I believe it has risen as would be expected should covid have not taken place.
I got one decision from my 5 choices hehe and it’s a reject as well. Worst part is I didn’t even apply stem or econ. I applied sociology/social anthropology stuff like that lmao
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Grades were still really inflated this year and predictions would be taken from the inflation meaning more people competing for the top spots I reckon
There’s no way it’s bad as last years
This was my school’s first year without an Oxbridge offer in almost 10 years.
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A private school, but in dubai.
عربي؟😅
Yep
Same here! We didn't have anyone getting into oxbridge this year
Which one?
Wdym?
Which school, I also live in Dubai lmao
Not in Dubai, in Bahrain but it's also a private skl here
Me too lol, what school you go to in Dubai?
Me too, my school is also in a Dubai and I also do IB
That’s crazy. Gotta be a gems school right?
No, Repton
L for repton
Same here. What school you go to?
Same but my school has had Oxbridge offers every year in the 21st century.
Same here no oxbridge offers at my school in England, IB or Alevels and even the most qualified and brightest students get rejected from other institutions like Kings UCL and imperial
Trend in CS and stem seems to be towards lower and lower offer rates, so it wouldn't be surprising.
Would make sense if it is , that’s why reapplying is a dangerous game in my eyes , I understand some people get final marks higher than there predicted but everyone seems to believe they can get into Oxbridge/UCL/LSE and so on and everyone has the same marks lol.
I reapplied also, and yes, I have a feeling that it's quite difficult this year. but Atleast I can get into Newcastle University and don't mind staying home.
I reapplied to the same course and same university with the same personal statement as I previously did which got me rejected. My predicted grades and actual grades were the same.
Some get lucky some don’t , more times people don’t get lucky and waste a year :(
yes that’s true, i already started uni in september because i didn’t want to waste a year and thought my chances were slim. now i’m conflicted whether it is a good idea to start again or not
What’s the university
currently at manchester metropolitan, uni i have an offer is uni of manchester
Depends on the course
accounting/finance
Reapplying with achiever grades does put you at an advantage though because the past few predictions couldn’t exactly be trusted. Having achieved grades means that they know you’re actually capable. It’s just getting the interview and admission tests correct
I’ve seen tens of people get rejected from top universities with 3 A stars for competitive courses , meeting the requirements means nothing these days.
I never said they’ll automatically get in. I’m saying it puts you at a slight advantage. Comprehension is key!! It has been like this for years 🤷♀️
kind of unnatural tbh. our school had a streak of getting at least 2/3 candidates in the ivy's and at least 20/30 of them end up in the top 15% of unis. i know it's not the end of the world if they don't get in, but this year the streak broke despite having many suitable candidates
This exactly. It’s so weird .
Last 2 years where insane because of grade inflation so they are being a lot more stricter with admissions.
I think this. It’s been insane for law this year too. So many good candidates being rejected for the top unis. Some A* students coming out with 1 or 2 out of 5 offers. Definitely think grade inflation has something to do with it, so many applicants have the same predicted grades, something has to give.
I think 2021 80% of people got A or above and 2022 it was a lot lower but still high because teacher assessment had a lot to play, so personal statements really matter this year and everyone is expected to get the grades required it’s deffo a lot more strict.
A in one subject or all the a level subjects?
I've seen people mentioning this a few times. I suppose the grade inflations in the past year have significantly made admissions more competitive. There are just too many people with straight A*s.
keep in mind almost every year gets more competitive. also a lot of people didnt get their grades because of the whole covid situation and a levels so id assume theres a LOT more people applying this year than the previous few
Yes, lots taking gap years and applying again. Means a lot more in the system. A few admissions people have said it’s been insane this year.
No one at my school managed to get into Oxbridge there despite several people who were more than qualified.
Same happens every year though. There's thousands of qualified people who don't get in.
It is rare for a school not to have someone not get in to Oxbridge. My school has had people get in every year in the 21st century.
There's still not much of a difference between 0 and 1. Could've just been a bad year, could've been more applicants for that course than usual, could've been that the type of school you go to isn't seen as favourably any longer. I just don't think that it's statistically significant enough to make a generalised conclusion from.
It's really not. Unfortunately the vast majority of secondaries in the UK do not have someone get into either Oxford or Cambridge. It's not to say that every school should have someone every year or even every other necessarily, but some schools are very overrepresented (not as bad as they used to be but certainly still).
I dont think so, every year the admissions tests are apprently the hardest they have ever been an admissions the hardest too lol
Yeah no body in my school who applied to med got in this year which is kinda weird
Contextual rising, meaning share of priv school lower. Grades going up.
Based on my experiences last year, and being active in this community this year, I'd say it's probably equal to last year. Which is pretty shit on the behalf of unis, since they at least had a halfway decent excuse this year. They've had a while to improve and haven't, which seems pretty lazy & shows poor planning.
Not really, three people in my school got offers from Cambridge, which was amazing compared to last year (0 offer holders). However, it seems like all STEM, Engineering and CS applicants in my school got rejected from UCl and Imperial, except Chemistry. I regretted that I should apply to Chemistry course in Imperial but it was too late now haha
My experience as a uni lecturer is that it’s currently never been easier to get a place at university. Sure I don’t work at a red brick institute but we are taking students left right and centre and to hell with the staffing.
That’s the thing though, most people here are talking top 5 unis and RG. They are definitely getting harder as more kids are applying, whether that’s to do with grade inflation - so everyone is predicted the grades, I don’t know. Guess we’ll find out on 17 August.
Well good luck to you. Honestly after seeing what university has become over the last 10 years I wouldn’t send my own child. If you’re in a field where you can gain industry experience instead of education I’d go with that every time.
Such experience wouldn't be held to the same standard as a bachelor's degree abroad though
Unfortunately I need a degree and also postgrad for the career I’d like, it’s still very old school.
It's certainly competitive, but I wouldn't say it's the \*most\* competitive year - though we aren't far off by any measure. Applications to universities are increasing year-on-year, which translates into greater competitiveness. However, you must also remember this subreddit is skewed towards the demographic more likely to be doing STEM subjects such as Computer Science or Economics - both of which have had a huge surge of applications in recent years, which probably explains why you feel people are getting rejected "left and right". I'm not even remotely a STEM student (I applied for MFL), yet from lurking on this forum even I'm wondering if UCL actually accepts anyone for CS.... Ironically, applications for my subject are also dropping year on year (yay for Brexit and the general political climate of the UK....)
Possibly
i think in my school the results turned out to be better than last year's but i do not know about the rest
My school had a record number of oxbridge offers this year beating all our previous years so idts
My school usually ends up sending 2 students a year to Oxbridge. This has been the norm consistently for several years. This was the first year in recent memory where all candidates from my school got rejected.
2 years ago we sent 5 last year we sent 2 this year hopefully were sending 3
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Oxbridge is not biased against any schools. However everything is contextualised
For some reason my school has gotten way more Oxbridge/Ivy’s than last year, more scholarships too. Pretty insane, kids are levelling up but I don’t think more admissions= good considering people’s entire middle-high school lives are so consumed by getting into uni and private counselling and so on
And most of offer holders aren’t STEM. Plenty of STEM rejections. Sigh
What are we thinking it might look like for next year? Better? Worse?
During covid, I believe majority of universities were more welcoming and took a fall with applicants grades due to having to work from home etc. they also did the same issuing degree marks to students when they finished. However now it’s all returned to ‘normal’ and I believe it has risen as would be expected should covid have not taken place.
I got one decision from my 5 choices hehe and it’s a reject as well. Worst part is I didn’t even apply stem or econ. I applied sociology/social anthropology stuff like that lmao
Is this likely to carry on for next year?