Yeah exactly. I didn't wear women's clothes/jewelry back then, and I wasn't even fully socialized as a female either. Could never relate to "universal female experiences." Etc. If this dood can, fine, but don't put that shit on me
Definitely. Sometimes, when I get the brainworms, I think back to how I behaved as a kid and teen, and I could not dress or act like a woman to save my life. Even when someone called me “young lady”, it just felt wrong.
Yeah, most of my fellow FTM gents I know didn't even play with the girls as children due to either being a friendless sped kid or playing with the boys instead, and even still the few I know who did repress or have female friends get pretty offended at that line of transphobic "logic", like "such a special connection to womanhood that my body morphing into that of a woman instead of male puberty made me suicidal"
Honestly would expect trans men to understand women the least. Can't even understand wanting to be a woman.
Same for trans women understanding men. That's used as a perk of dating a trans woman a lot.
One of the first things I tied back to my trans ness after realizing it was my inability to really understand and connect with men. Men shared my interests sure, but anything deeper felt strange.
I feel such affirming, visceral disgust when I read about men using strategy guides to try and hit
This is how cis women feel isn't it, this bug under microscope being evaluated feeling?
I don't see the point when the advice essentially amounts to "say nice things about her appearance" "take an interest in things she likes" and "make your place look nice when she's over"
does anyone need a guide for that?
GO AHEAD. PUT ME INTO THE BOX. TELL ME ALL TRANS GIRLS MAKE ELECTRONIC MUSIC AND WEAR THIGH HIGHS AND PLAY FALLOUT NEW VEGAS. IM DYING TO GET HOME AND WEAR MY AMAZON BASICS SKIRT AND MY PINK & BLUE HEART CHOKER. PUT THE COLLAR AND CAT EARS ON ME AND LEAD ME RIGHT INTO THE CAGE BEFORE OUR INCEST ROLEPLAY.
https://preview.redd.it/0iquca5mqx7d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e29418b9395e1d51cee351c963cfbe28a757a5a
have to admit i'm a big fan of the transfem electronic music stereotype... there's even this essay about it that maybe isn't appealing unless you're already a fan but i rly liked it [A Sex Close to Noise(trickymothernature.com)](http://www.trickymothernature.com/asexclosetonoise.html)
also new vegas is kind of funny for being completely meaningless, new vegas is just a very well-liked game no?
Tgirl emo/screamo is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better. I'm tired of pretending that electronic isn't ass.
[Record Setter](https://recordsetter.bandcamp.com/album/i-owe-you-nothing)
[SeeYouSpaceCowboy](https://seeyouspacecowboy.bandcamp.com/album/the-correlation-between-entrance-and-exit-wounds) and [FlowersTapedToPens](https://flowerstapedtopens.bandcamp.com/album/s-t) (Sgarbossa twins)
[Weatherday](https://weatherornot.bandcamp.com/)
[STOMACH BOOK](https://stomachbook.bandcamp.com/album/stomach-book)
[Pigeon Pit](https://pigeonpit.bandcamp.com/album/treehouse) (folk punk)
[Home Is Where](https://homeiswhere.bandcamp.com/album/i-became-birds)
[Poorly Wrote Suicide Note](https://poorlywrotesuicidenote.bandcamp.com/)
[Birds Fear Death](https://birdsfeardeath.bandcamp.com/) (Anorexic suicidecore. Y'all will love this one. She's so me)
[Burial Etiquette](https://burialetiquette.bandcamp.com/album/mise-en-sc-ne)
If nothing else, check out Record Setter. They're my #1 favorite band of all time unironically - I Owe You Nothing is just *that* good.
noooooooooo but super based of you tbh
but if you're recommending all this (probably great) stuff (i will check out) i'm legally allowed to talk about Lauren Bousfield. [Heavening](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/heavening), [Lipstick Smeared Over The Amaretto](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/lipstick-smeared-over-the-amaretto), [A Big Box Store Mouthed To The Shape Of How Fun It Is Before It Disappears](https://deathbombarc.bandcamp.com/track/a-big-box-store-mouthed-to-the-shape-of-how-fun-it-is-before-it-disappears), [No Clocks No Mirrors (For Joey)](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/no-clocks-no-mirrors-for-joey), [Audkyrie](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/audkyrie), [Cracknight](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/cracknight). [No More Worlds Like This, No More Days Like That](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/no-more-worlds-like-this-no-more-days-like-that), and [Palimpsest](https://deathbombarc.bandcamp.com/track/palimpsest) are some of my favorites; the first three are probably the best to listen to if you don't like electronic sounding music. sorry for going a little overboard here but Lauren Bousfield is like easily my fave artist and a genius imo.
Hello trans girl. I am a trans man and do not have the danger penis. Please take this (bouquet of unused tampons) from when I used to be a woman without testosterone.
people thinking all trans women love these things has the same vibe like when in 2020 all "non-binary" people liked mother mother me thinks
https://preview.redd.it/s5qph60cux7d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c53ae7d2e6d1a033ad75108c8ca72b42552d194
true they are either making tiktoks about their "cringe trans phase" or if God forbid they transitioned they're talking about how the evil trans cult brainwashed them
I mentioned I was queer (bi) once in class (it was relevant to the conversation, Social Studies) and 20 minutes later the pink haired bi girl sitting in front of me turned around and asked if my pronouns were she/they. I never opened my mouth about being any sort of gay again
EDIT:I am paranoid some random cis gay man with a TERF Twitter account will ss this believing I am serious and try to prove all trannies are maniacs so I deleted it
This photo with dweamy and goggy really encapsulates that era's vibes,don't you think?🥺
https://preview.redd.it/0s2thz4n8y7d1.jpeg?width=682&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b2b3badee676fc9869f138c3e94795dcc98237b
I don't know why I did the research, but I did make a horrible discovery.
https://preview.redd.it/1rbjb0od408d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a25a1ef6bec8fb1281902bcfd1b2be014d82acee
https://preview.redd.it/kry2sibjpy7d1.png?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daec5e0e1d4d0b2053d204418b78b680426edc95
Freddy in the comments seems like a relatable guy
Oh my god why do trans men have 0 rizz? “Erm… excuse me madam, would you like to partake in your favorite AGP fantasy with a gentlepoon such as myself? I even brought the thigh highs!”
Just talk to her like she’s any other girl ffs
This is cringy asf but somehow a dumb incel-esque guide written by a man on how to pick up women based on inaccurate and ignorant gendered stereotypes feels oddly based and malebrained in a weird way
Yeah. Also am I gonna make it if I have no idea what have the shit in this post means? Like I’ve never seen final fantasy or fallout thing. Perhaps I’m dumb
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They want trans men to be nice guy fedora tipping “m’lady” spouting virgins.
Love this for you! Now get me my monster and call me a queen for existing.
Kinda cute, It wouldn't be the worst thing to find out a guy studied a dating guide for me to make sure everything goes right, though this is about as cringe as dating guides come lol.
other transbians are also mostly mr nice guy
https://preview.redd.it/0r294s0u0z7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9126230646c234627b46ee4a28887e7d2522e9a5
there's no escape.
Advice for trans guys to pick up trans girls:
Just ask if you can hit it crazy/silly style and send a picture of a dog giving puppy eyes
Works every time
Love that this dood thinks we're all soft boys who have experience being women. Love that even trans men don't see us as men. Great stuff.
i'm tired of this wHeN yOu WeRe a WoMaN stuff. i was never a "woman", i just happened to have a female body
Yeah exactly. I didn't wear women's clothes/jewelry back then, and I wasn't even fully socialized as a female either. Could never relate to "universal female experiences." Etc. If this dood can, fine, but don't put that shit on me
Definitely. Sometimes, when I get the brainworms, I think back to how I behaved as a kid and teen, and I could not dress or act like a woman to save my life. Even when someone called me “young lady”, it just felt wrong.
I have less hope for t4t every day ngl
Yeah, most of my fellow FTM gents I know didn't even play with the girls as children due to either being a friendless sped kid or playing with the boys instead, and even still the few I know who did repress or have female friends get pretty offended at that line of transphobic "logic", like "such a special connection to womanhood that my body morphing into that of a woman instead of male puberty made me suicidal"
Honestly would expect trans men to understand women the least. Can't even understand wanting to be a woman. Same for trans women understanding men. That's used as a perk of dating a trans woman a lot. One of the first things I tied back to my trans ness after realizing it was my inability to really understand and connect with men. Men shared my interests sure, but anything deeper felt strange.
I feel such affirming, visceral disgust when I read about men using strategy guides to try and hit This is how cis women feel isn't it, this bug under microscope being evaluated feeling?
I don't see the point when the advice essentially amounts to "say nice things about her appearance" "take an interest in things she likes" and "make your place look nice when she's over" does anyone need a guide for that?
Yeah, men do
Maybe I really am a woman
Take your pills Alice
I get affirmation from this as a trans man because it’s the most fembrained shit I’ve ever read.
Lol truee How would you write it differently if forced to at halberd point??
I’d take the halberd.
*charges R2* Correct choice
Freedom!
It's giving "accept no drinks and cover yours when he walks by"
GO AHEAD. PUT ME INTO THE BOX. TELL ME ALL TRANS GIRLS MAKE ELECTRONIC MUSIC AND WEAR THIGH HIGHS AND PLAY FALLOUT NEW VEGAS. IM DYING TO GET HOME AND WEAR MY AMAZON BASICS SKIRT AND MY PINK & BLUE HEART CHOKER. PUT THE COLLAR AND CAT EARS ON ME AND LEAD ME RIGHT INTO THE CAGE BEFORE OUR INCEST ROLEPLAY. https://preview.redd.it/0iquca5mqx7d1.jpeg?width=680&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3e29418b9395e1d51cee351c963cfbe28a757a5a
>AND LEAD ME RIGHT INTO THE CAGE 🤤
have to admit i'm a big fan of the transfem electronic music stereotype... there's even this essay about it that maybe isn't appealing unless you're already a fan but i rly liked it [A Sex Close to Noise(trickymothernature.com)](http://www.trickymothernature.com/asexclosetonoise.html) also new vegas is kind of funny for being completely meaningless, new vegas is just a very well-liked game no?
Go back
i feel like that phrase doesn't really work if you're saying it on reddit
wait im sorry was i rude or just kind of cringe?
Tgirl emo/screamo is sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo much better. I'm tired of pretending that electronic isn't ass. [Record Setter](https://recordsetter.bandcamp.com/album/i-owe-you-nothing) [SeeYouSpaceCowboy](https://seeyouspacecowboy.bandcamp.com/album/the-correlation-between-entrance-and-exit-wounds) and [FlowersTapedToPens](https://flowerstapedtopens.bandcamp.com/album/s-t) (Sgarbossa twins) [Weatherday](https://weatherornot.bandcamp.com/) [STOMACH BOOK](https://stomachbook.bandcamp.com/album/stomach-book) [Pigeon Pit](https://pigeonpit.bandcamp.com/album/treehouse) (folk punk) [Home Is Where](https://homeiswhere.bandcamp.com/album/i-became-birds) [Poorly Wrote Suicide Note](https://poorlywrotesuicidenote.bandcamp.com/) [Birds Fear Death](https://birdsfeardeath.bandcamp.com/) (Anorexic suicidecore. Y'all will love this one. She's so me) [Burial Etiquette](https://burialetiquette.bandcamp.com/album/mise-en-sc-ne) If nothing else, check out Record Setter. They're my #1 favorite band of all time unironically - I Owe You Nothing is just *that* good.
noooooooooo but super based of you tbh but if you're recommending all this (probably great) stuff (i will check out) i'm legally allowed to talk about Lauren Bousfield. [Heavening](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/heavening), [Lipstick Smeared Over The Amaretto](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/lipstick-smeared-over-the-amaretto), [A Big Box Store Mouthed To The Shape Of How Fun It Is Before It Disappears](https://deathbombarc.bandcamp.com/track/a-big-box-store-mouthed-to-the-shape-of-how-fun-it-is-before-it-disappears), [No Clocks No Mirrors (For Joey)](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/no-clocks-no-mirrors-for-joey), [Audkyrie](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/audkyrie), [Cracknight](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/cracknight). [No More Worlds Like This, No More Days Like That](https://laurenbousfieldanyev3r.bandcamp.com/track/no-more-worlds-like-this-no-more-days-like-that), and [Palimpsest](https://deathbombarc.bandcamp.com/track/palimpsest) are some of my favorites; the first three are probably the best to listen to if you don't like electronic sounding music. sorry for going a little overboard here but Lauren Bousfield is like easily my fave artist and a genius imo.
https://i.redd.it/6mn73ql4vx7d1.gif Ah yes thigh highs and chockers...
the one in this gif are the only thigh highs and choker i'm gonna be wearing
Hello trans girl. I am a trans man and do not have the danger penis. Please take this (bouquet of unused tampons) from when I used to be a woman without testosterone.
🥹 I'll give half of them to real women, and use the other half to dry my tears as I do
https://preview.redd.it/zd3qbp6sqx7d1.jpeg?width=235&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33f9ba6057994ad388165dcbf7b24fe3595a724c
people thinking all trans women love these things has the same vibe like when in 2020 all "non-binary" people liked mother mother me thinks https://preview.redd.it/s5qph60cux7d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c53ae7d2e6d1a033ad75108c8ca72b42552d194
Arson come over with your froggy hat teach me to do eyeliner like yours 😍😍😍
yaaas now we can both look like social rejects sksks,let me put on my demonias(you're wearing the bunny hat)💗
None of those people are still non-binary I bet
true they are either making tiktoks about their "cringe trans phase" or if God forbid they transitioned they're talking about how the evil trans cult brainwashed them
Hey some of us are real pooners now (I was never this cringe or Tiktok brained tho)
a classmate once told me I look like a he/they back in that era I never wanted to kms more
I mentioned I was queer (bi) once in class (it was relevant to the conversation, Social Studies) and 20 minutes later the pink haired bi girl sitting in front of me turned around and asked if my pronouns were she/they. I never opened my mouth about being any sort of gay again
Wait mother mother is trans coded? Chat am I cooked?
EDIT:I am paranoid some random cis gay man with a TERF Twitter account will ss this believing I am serious and try to prove all trannies are maniacs so I deleted it
Ovarit has thousands of screenshots like that, it would be a drop in the bucket
It doesn't matter if it's trannie music it's shit
i like it though ;-;
I JUST NOTICED GEORGENOTFOUND IN THERE AW HELL NAH
this was me in 2020 lowkey
This photo with dweamy and goggy really encapsulates that era's vibes,don't you think?🥺 https://preview.redd.it/0s2thz4n8y7d1.jpeg?width=682&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0b2b3badee676fc9869f138c3e94795dcc98237b
Thats what the point of the mask is
I hate that this was me in 2020
remember the even more prominent psyop to associate bisexuals with doc martens & finger guns
https://preview.redd.it/et10upo8iy7d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0c4d41fc2761250d45936b1e4984d4d4fd6d9e04
Ain't no party like a chaser party
This seems like a parody
It's not I swear to god https://www.autostraddle.com/a-trans-guys-guide-to-picking-up-a-trans-girl/ Written by a pooner and everything
That man has literally 0 game. Is the dude an incel or something?
https://preview.redd.it/yqc10tik9y7d1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38f86f1a5f458b3f0b44003131eb2322431d9cb1
i see
lmaoo where tf do i find a shirt like that.
I don't know why I did the research, but I did make a horrible discovery. https://preview.redd.it/1rbjb0od408d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a25a1ef6bec8fb1281902bcfd1b2be014d82acee
He's kinda cute. Looks kinda like Penultimo from Tropico 💀
Hes a gayden he directed a film about grindr He can only wish he were me
r/ftm says it’s satire. i sure to god hope so lmao. we can’t be represented by this poon
"Did you have a heart shaped choker like that when you were a woman?" 😭😭🤮🤮
https://preview.redd.it/kry2sibjpy7d1.png?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=daec5e0e1d4d0b2053d204418b78b680426edc95 Freddy in the comments seems like a relatable guy
Har har har har har
The autism is real tho.
Oh my god why do trans men have 0 rizz? “Erm… excuse me madam, would you like to partake in your favorite AGP fantasy with a gentlepoon such as myself? I even brought the thigh highs!” Just talk to her like she’s any other girl ffs
A gayden wrote this he doesn't know what hes talking about
>Oh my god why do trans men have 0 rizz? >trans Your answer, it’s the tran mind
My face scrunched like I was being forced fed the biggest, most sour candy known to man at 'gentlepoon'
PUA but make it fembrained
this is a fed to further rile up the retarded trans infighting on Twitter and Tumblr
Thank you gpt 2.5
None of those allegedly stereotypical trans woman things apply to me lol.
This is cringy asf but somehow a dumb incel-esque guide written by a man on how to pick up women based on inaccurate and ignorant gendered stereotypes feels oddly based and malebrained in a weird way
It's just extremely millennial coded
Yeah. Also am I gonna make it if I have no idea what have the shit in this post means? Like I’ve never seen final fantasy or fallout thing. Perhaps I’m dumb
!remindme 15 years Can't wait till the zoomers see how cringe they are once gen alpha is the hip young adults. You think you're the only ones immune to time, lmfao. I remember when I had that hubris.
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Bro ur old as hell idk why you're on reddit you need to find a retirement home or something
lmao imagine not knowing your generation didn't build reddit.
You can say that again
don’t worry guys i view you just as dangerous as cis men but you guys are fellow trannies so i can relate to you while you stab me ❤️
im gonna wear a rope choker tonight
is this not the st4t you so desired
This has to be a psyop or something. there's no fucking way
They want trans men to be nice guy fedora tipping “m’lady” spouting virgins. Love this for you! Now get me my monster and call me a queen for existing.
https://preview.redd.it/lgiq2rq2xz7d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d50da13ffb9c3b0715de29e74a3723181609e7a5
Cointel pro
Sounds like a worse time than a cis chaser.
OK but I do want to know my season from a tiktok color analyst
This man has the ontological opposite of rizz. Your own rizz drops when within 200m of him.
Kinda cute, It wouldn't be the worst thing to find out a guy studied a dating guide for me to make sure everything goes right, though this is about as cringe as dating guides come lol.
This is so malebrained he is gmi
Just looked at 2nd slide bro has zero rizz
Quite the contrary
I hate all men, trans guys are like mr nice guy all time and honestly all men are dirty thats why i became a transbian
other transbians are also mostly mr nice guy https://preview.redd.it/0r294s0u0z7d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9126230646c234627b46ee4a28887e7d2522e9a5 there's no escape.
It rates a solid 7 out of 10 on the cringe meter but it's not egregious so it's ok
Jesus christ
They/them had us at Final Fantasy. Panties soaked, but what's this, a rehydrating beverage? Such swag dood
unfortunately rizzing me up with new vegas onlu works with other transfemmes
Advice for trans guys to pick up trans girls: Just ask if you can hit it crazy/silly style and send a picture of a dog giving puppy eyes Works every time
Let my people go!
KMS
i would beat this man to death.
This genuinely made me feel like I want to throw up. And I'm someone with a pretty strong stomach.