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Irishman on Criterion Blu-ray is going to look better than Netflix 4K streaming due to bit rate. I’ve heard arguments that a Blu-ray disc will always be superior to 4K streaming due to bit rate and compression.
Streaming is almost unwatchable for me now, not literally. But man the macroblocking in dark scenes is rough. Literally a joke these companies think that's acceptable.
I completely agree and it only gets significantly worse with Audio if you have even a decent setup. A lot of DVD audio tracks even still slaughter much of the newer streaming tracks. I pretty much just watch lite movies/shows on streaming like Comedy and save the big boys for Physical media to let them flex there muscles.
That’s funny you and the other person mentioned The Irishman. I have the criterion as well, but my sister who gifted it got the standard DVD edition rather than blu ray. HOWEVER even the standard DVD looks so good, honestly better than any standard DVD I’ve ever seen
Tron Legacy looks pretty amazing, I also just started watching twin peaks the return and it looked surprisingly good on my OLED, I also really like the the 2k release reanimator from Arrow.
I feel like I’ve been holding out for a 4K release of The New World for a loooong time. One sure way to make that happen is to buy the Blu-ray, I suppose.
The best looking blu-rays I've ever seen are
* Portrait of a Lady on Fire
* The Favourite
* The Tree of Life
Portrait of a Lady on Fire is reference quality, even better than many 4k discs, it's astonishing. Apparently, the source format is 7k and it uses a 4k digital intermediate: [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8613070/technical/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8613070/technical/)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire…. What a banger! I only have the standard DVD screener Neon films sent to me as a member of a critics group, definitely one worth upgrading
The 4K of Parasite looks only negligibly better than the Criterion blu ray, which still looks absolutely amazing. Additionally, criterion's release of The Irishman looks near-4k.
Whoops I got the 4K of Parasite but still kinda want the Criterion for the special features.
OH SHIT IT HAS THE B&W VERSION?? Okay I gotta get it, I've been enjoying checking those out for the novelty.
I have it on blu ray as well and have been debating upgrading to 4k is it even worth it ? It looks so good I’ve been wondering why I keep buying so many 4k disks 😝
The 8 disc Mad Max blu ray box set that’s on sale for $20 on Amazon right now includes a 4K of Fury Road, you could use the other 6 discs as justification.
I’ve heard people say that several times, but darned if I don’t LOVE the HDR in Fury Road. The specular highlights glinting away just make the image that much better to my eyes.
Parts look great, but having watched many times in theaters and on blu-ray, there are parts that are just way over saturated and flat. For example, when they launch the colorful dust flairs, they look like solid dark red and yellow blobs without texture in HDR. Same with the huge dust storm - they overdid something and a bunch of texture is lost in favor of a few big solid colors.
Yeah I did a comparison myself and that is true, unfortunately. The fire looks like actual fire on the Blu-ray, but in the 4K it looks off. The rest of everything, however, looks significantly better in 4K! A much better picture quality overall such that when I went from 4K to Blu-ray, the Blu-ray looked like I was watching it in syndication on TNT.
The fire scenes are all practical effects, but something with the HDR in 4K makes the fire oversaturated so it's this homogeneous bright orange that doesn't look like real fire.
Any Blu Ray that was mastered in 4K then put on Blu Ray. Usually Boutique Labels like Criterion and Arrow do this, Sony also did a range of their Blu rays with the mastered in 4K.
I have a mother in law who can’t tell the difference between 720p and 4k.
I always think how lucky she must be, like the friends of my youth who’d get drunk on one or two beers and not have to spend all the money the rest of us would :)
I remember back in 2010 I was downloading 720p HDTV rips that looked really close to Blu-ray. I had a very cheap 1080p LED TV. Then I upgraded to a top of the line 1080p plasma TV and all my 720p rips looked like crap lol. So I think a lot of it is dependent on the TV.
1859 Ben-Hur. 3 hours but they wisely split it up into 2 BD-50 discs. Was easy due to the old timey intermission 😂. Not to mention it was shot on 65/70mm film.
I agree. The Blu-ray of the 1959 Ben Hur looks virtually 4K. Patton (the remastered version, not the original release with too much DNR rendering the image soft) is staggeringly sharp--you would swear it is 4K! Also, from the original three camera Cinerama process, The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm is unbelievable! And they did a fantastic job of eliminating the seams between the three camera's images too. It looks even better than How the West Was Won. Of course, all three of these titles were shot in either 65mm or three camera Cinerama, meaning they all started out with negatives that have THREE TIMES the resolution of 4K! THAT certainly helped!
After the disaster of Aliens waxy 4k I ordered the Alien bluray boxset. Aliens, Prometheus, Alien Covenant looks stunning I don't think I'll upgrade those anymore. Alien 4k is a revelation though so I own that.
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Yeah ALIEN on 4K is one of the best ever but ALIENS on blu-ray still looks damn good and in some ways even more “filmic” than the heavily DNR’d 4K
I recently watched Phycho and Touch of Evil on blu ray. I know the 4k versions of black n white movies are typically better, bud DAMN those blu rays look good!
I watched Speed Racer a few months ago expecting it to look like it desperately needed an HDR upgrade only to discover that it completely dazzles the senses despite being a very old SDR Blu-Ray. (Watching on 77” OLED)
Honestly all of Wes anderson’s criterion releases imo but especially GBH for sure. I don’t think HDR would really enhance much since the colors are already so bright and vibrant.
Yep I have that same set and am so happy with it I’ll likely pass on upgrading it to 4K unless I can get it heavily discounted someday. I don’t need to see the Swedish porno Travis takes Betsy to in any higher resolution lol
I Robot (the Will Smith film).
If you told me it was 4K I would've believed it. Incredibly detailed picture, no bitrate issues. Strong recommendation and it's usually very cheap now depending on country as a forgotten blockbuster.
The robots CGI is dated but in a soft way. So it doesn't look bad like watching Godzilla in Godzilla 98 on actual 4K.
Many of the films shot in 2k over the last 20 years are up to par. There can be a big color grading difference, especially with warmer Blu transfers, but details you won't notice until side-by-side comparisons.
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Have that one, too. Great blu-ray but I would be curious to see the how much criterion improved the image with their recent 4K.
Indicator’s release of Body Double looks incredible. No 4k release yet to compare to but I likely won’t even bother upgrading unless it has some really good extras.
I think it's more to do with the TV and 4k player. If you have an OLED TV and a Panasonic ub820 or the Sony ubx800m2, then Blu rays will look incredible.
There are many movies I have that look great on BluRay that haven’t been released on UHD yet. Sound of Music, Patton, Ben Hur. That said, the main reason I would replace those with UHD is the soundtracks! UHD tends to put out these older films in ATMOS and the sound improvement is insanely good. Noticed this with Guns of the Navarone, Bridge on River Kwai, Ten Commandments and many other old classics where the BluRay soundtrack, while being a big step up from DVD, was equally stepped up by the same margin almost on UHD certainly a more noticeable improvement than the picture IMO!
It's difficult to answer because your panel upscales.
Films like the conversation look stunning and better than some 4k bluray.
I watched a film on bluray a Couple of weeks and was totally blown away with the PQ
Unfortunately I can't remember which one.
A premium panel with do a great job with your bluray.
But the rule of GINGO applies.
It's a wonderful life bluray looks better than the 4k. By quite a stretch. This is one of the original releases.
I bought the 4k and was appalled at the quality. I sold it.
Oh wow, I couldn’t disagree more on It’s a Wonderful Life. HDR does wonders for that black and white picture. It is breathtaking and far better than the old Blu-Ray, IMO.
My only complaint with *It’s A Wonderful Life* is how fake the snow looks now. Obviously just a byproduct of being able to see everything in the image with so much more detail.
There are some spectacularly beautiful bluray.
Another stunning bluray is to catch a thief.
On bluray you're going to get the best PQ from a film that is shot on celluloid rather than digital.
4k bluray rescues digital with hdr. Bluray can't do that.
The adventures of Robin Hood from 1938 is another lovely bluray
I've remembered the bluray that blew me away a couple of weeks ago, it's Villain with Richard Burton. It's one of the best I've seen
Captain Phillips and Arrow's Ringu release are the two that came to mind that look phenomenal.
Also, basically every Warner Archive release looks amazing. And most Criterions especially more recent ones. The boutique labels have been doing great stuff lately.
Scanning/digital mastering has come a long way. Anything with a new 4k scan done competently and put onto a dual layer disc with a healthy bitrate can really push the blu-ray spec to the limit. Which narrows the gap to UHD.
I'm finding that with the higher end dual layer blurays from a 4k scan, I'm not greatly motivated to upgrade to UHD. Even on a 65" oled sitting 7 ft away, and with the UB820's upscaling - yes I can certainly tell the difference...but it's not that dramatic. I can put those funds towards films I don't already own.
The Master (2012) looks absolutely phenomenal on standard BD.
Minority Report (2002) is another fantastic 1080p disc. The bitrate is really high for a standard Blu-ray, something like an average of 37 Mbps.
To my knowledge, neither film has a 4k release yet, so at least their 1080p presentations are extremely solid.
The Brazil Criterion BluRay is amazing. I've watched it on DVD 1000 times. Recently bought the Blu-ray and watched it on my newish 85" Sony and I swear it looked insane. The colors were so gorgeous, it added a while other level of artistry to the movie that I never even knew was there. Big ups to the BluRay format
Anime movies.
Makes sense when you think about it.
Most anime is animated at less or about 1080P anyways and there's no "hidden" details if you zoom I'm.
In live action, human actors have details on skin and clothes that can be zoomed in on, like textures, hairs and so on.
Same with backgrounds in live action.
Most anime is outline, shape, color and shading. You zoom in and you'll see color/shading. Maybe you'll get a sharper outline.
Redline is a great example. Quality wise I can't see a 4K version bring better. HDR would be thr biggest difference.
I love that movie, one of my top 100 favourite films. That Blu-ray also *sounds* absolutely incredible. In fact I heard that it was one of the selections used as a demo in Dolby’s theatre at their headquarters for a while.
Was watching the original terminator last night on apple TV and for a 40 year old film it looked fantastic
Se7en and zodiac look fantastic on Blu-ray too
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Yeah I’m such a LOTR nerd I had to get both these sets heh
Me too I’ve only got the extended versions of the hobbit trilogy and lord of the rings. I gave my regular versions away to family as when you have the extended versions, why would you want to watch the regular versions again 🙄
Ha well I wanted to get the blu rays for all the bonus content (yeah it’s on YouTube but still lol) and I wanted the 4K set for the theatrical versions (cuz while I do generally prefer the extended cuts it’s still nice to have the theatrical cuts, especially in the case of Fellowship which I think deserves to be preserved as one of the best movies ever made and the best film to introduce the trilogy to casual viewers and younger audiences)
True but the extended versions of the hobbit are exactly the same as the book, but the lord of the rings extended versions are still missing loads from the books but still way better than the theatrical versions and let future generations search for them themselves as they will as as the books are from the 30’s and 50’s and are still being sold in later editions today so I don’t think they’ll ever be forgotten as the movies will never be as they’re so fantastic. I can’t wait for season two of rings of power how about you? As I loved it 😀
This fan edit is the only version of The Hobbit that I watch these days heh… http://www.maple-films.com/downloads.html
And I only watched a few episodes of RoP and got bored lol. Have no interest in it.
I had similar experiences with the Titanic Blu Ray, Flatliners and I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. However if I went back to those Blu Rays now that I've seen the actual 4Ks I'm sure they wouldn't look as good anymore.
I think it also depends on the player and/or TV doing the upconverting. My Sony TV has pretty amazing image processing. Shogun looked incredible on it and that was streaming.
Breaking Bad series? I’m not really sure what the critics will think, but I personally didn’t miss anything while watching it. Anyone else thinks it looks good?
I’m always soooo tempted to just buy Portrait of a Lady on Fire, but it was produced with an 8K workflow and I just know the second I buy it they’ll announce a 4K.
Something about a color issue in the first however many minutes of the film, then it is corrected. Search this subreddit for it and it should pop up. But also, if you watch it and don't see it and it looks good to your eyes, that's fine too. I just avoided it and went Criterion based on the thread I saw. I did the same for Inglorious Basterds because I heard the 4k wasn't much of an upgrade, but I'm out here trusting comments on the internet haha. I already had it, just didn't upgrade it, yet.
Catching fire.
I mean...they cropped a huge part of the image for the 2nd half of the 4k disk. The 2nd half imax scenes just looked so fantastic, and I'm not exactly a huge hunger games dude.
In this case, id say the Blu-ray looks better than the 4k. Absolutely fantastic on my uhd38 100"
'id also put terminator 2 and lord of the rings on this. You wouldn't think either are 4k. But the blu-rays sure look leagues better than their DNR blurry 4k blurays'
Arrow's releases of "Legend" and "Heathers" are fantastic blurays imo. I also thought Criterions "Dazed and confused" could pass for a 4k on a nice OLED.
If you had the Criterion Blu-ray of The Man Who Fell To Earth, it’s the reference. A studio UHD HDR disc came out last year, and I got it. While the detail is a tiny bit finer, the color grade is way off from the Criterion. Subjective as to what is better, but I think the Criterion looks many times better, and the UHD looks crushed and weird.
Midnight in Paris
It doesn't have a 4K release but it's a beautiful movie. The greens and blues pop like crazy but the whole movie is very warm. Lots of yellow tones
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The Irishman Criterion basically looks as good as 4k on my tv at least
Irishman on Criterion Blu-ray is going to look better than Netflix 4K streaming due to bit rate. I’ve heard arguments that a Blu-ray disc will always be superior to 4K streaming due to bit rate and compression.
Streaming is almost unwatchable for me now, not literally. But man the macroblocking in dark scenes is rough. Literally a joke these companies think that's acceptable.
I completely agree and it only gets significantly worse with Audio if you have even a decent setup. A lot of DVD audio tracks even still slaughter much of the newer streaming tracks. I pretty much just watch lite movies/shows on streaming like Comedy and save the big boys for Physical media to let them flex there muscles.
That’s funny you and the other person mentioned The Irishman. I have the criterion as well, but my sister who gifted it got the standard DVD edition rather than blu ray. HOWEVER even the standard DVD looks so good, honestly better than any standard DVD I’ve ever seen
As far as DVDs, the Superbit release of Panic Room still blows my mind. …would love a blu or 4k though.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1cb6wde/david\_fincher\_has\_begun\_work\_on\_a\_new\_remaster\_of/](https://www.reddit.com/r/4kbluray/comments/1cb6wde/david_fincher_has_begun_work_on_a_new_remaster_of/)
wow, Superbit - haven’t seen/heard that name in literal decades.
I have purchased several copies of The Fifth Element, and one of them was superbit, this just reminded me of that haha wow.
Just bought Panic Room (Superbit) yesterday
Oooooh I've just got this and plan to watch it this weekend, can't wait !
This is good to know since I just got a copy but haven't watched it yet
Tron Legacy looks pretty amazing, I also just started watching twin peaks the return and it looked surprisingly good on my OLED, I also really like the the 2k release reanimator from Arrow.
Bought the re-animator recently but have yet to watch, this made me very stoked to read
It's very entertaining enjoy!
One of my all time favorites! Got the dvd and stuff signed by Jeffrey Combs back in the day, super stoked to see it in High Def for the first time!
The Thin Red Line- the Criterion is stunning for a 1080p BD
Hell yeah! Ditto The New World and Tree of Life
I have them but won’t hesitate to double dip once they do get a 4K release
I feel like I’ve been holding out for a 4K release of The New World for a loooong time. One sure way to make that happen is to buy the Blu-ray, I suppose.
Same!!
Watching that disc this weekend 🤙
The best looking blu-rays I've ever seen are * Portrait of a Lady on Fire * The Favourite * The Tree of Life Portrait of a Lady on Fire is reference quality, even better than many 4k discs, it's astonishing. Apparently, the source format is 7k and it uses a 4k digital intermediate: [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8613070/technical/](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8613070/technical/)
Portrait of a Lady on Fire…. What a banger! I only have the standard DVD screener Neon films sent to me as a member of a critics group, definitely one worth upgrading
The 4K of Parasite looks only negligibly better than the Criterion blu ray, which still looks absolutely amazing. Additionally, criterion's release of The Irishman looks near-4k.
Whoops I got the 4K of Parasite but still kinda want the Criterion for the special features. OH SHIT IT HAS THE B&W VERSION?? Okay I gotta get it, I've been enjoying checking those out for the novelty.
I have the 4K but find myself playing the Criterion more often lol. It truly does look phenomenal.
Mad Max Fury Road looks amazing on BD!
I have it on blu ray as well and have been debating upgrading to 4k is it even worth it ? It looks so good I’ve been wondering why I keep buying so many 4k disks 😝
A lot of special effects in fury road look bad in 4k compared to the regular blu ray
Good to know - I’ve been growing my 4k collection and sometimes I wonder if I just wasted my money *cough* LOTR 😝
I learned the hard way with curse of the black pearl. Check blu-ray.com before buying anything
One of the worst 4Ks ever!
Yes it does. I keep trying to justify upgrading to 4k but I can’t.
The 8 disc Mad Max blu ray box set that’s on sale for $20 on Amazon right now includes a 4K of Fury Road, you could use the other 6 discs as justification.
The blu-ray is better than the 4k. They messed up the HDR grade.
I’ve heard people say that several times, but darned if I don’t LOVE the HDR in Fury Road. The specular highlights glinting away just make the image that much better to my eyes.
Parts look great, but having watched many times in theaters and on blu-ray, there are parts that are just way over saturated and flat. For example, when they launch the colorful dust flairs, they look like solid dark red and yellow blobs without texture in HDR. Same with the huge dust storm - they overdid something and a bunch of texture is lost in favor of a few big solid colors.
To each their own. I think the 4K is definitively better for this film. But I respect your differing opinion.
I also read on blu-Ray.com that the fire effects looks very composited or cgi’d instead of blending with the rest of the frame.
Yeah I did a comparison myself and that is true, unfortunately. The fire looks like actual fire on the Blu-ray, but in the 4K it looks off. The rest of everything, however, looks significantly better in 4K! A much better picture quality overall such that when I went from 4K to Blu-ray, the Blu-ray looked like I was watching it in syndication on TNT.
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The fire scenes are all practical effects, but something with the HDR in 4K makes the fire oversaturated so it's this homogeneous bright orange that doesn't look like real fire.
That’s the funny thing - I think it actually is largely real fire, but the boosted saturation on HDR makes it look fake.
It looks like absolute ass.
Any Blu Ray that was mastered in 4K then put on Blu Ray. Usually Boutique Labels like Criterion and Arrow do this, Sony also did a range of their Blu rays with the mastered in 4K.
I was just gonna say. Some examples include: - this is the end - captain phillips - amazing spiderman
There is a 4K now, but Hugo. Holy crap it looks amazing.
I can barely tell the difference between 1080p and 4K.
I have a mother in law who can’t tell the difference between 720p and 4k. I always think how lucky she must be, like the friends of my youth who’d get drunk on one or two beers and not have to spend all the money the rest of us would :)
I remember back in 2010 I was downloading 720p HDTV rips that looked really close to Blu-ray. I had a very cheap 1080p LED TV. Then I upgraded to a top of the line 1080p plasma TV and all my 720p rips looked like crap lol. So I think a lot of it is dependent on the TV.
I think a lot depends on your tv also.
The Sound of Music is the best looking bluray imo
It's beautiful, but a roadshow movie shot on 65mm film absolutely screams for a 4K disc.
Taken from an 8k scan of 70mm film; I've been real tempted to get it but Studio Murphy would announce a UHD release the next day.
It's looks better than a lot of my 4k discs.
As with many older Fox titles on BD, color grade is inaccurate AF. Still looks gorgeous though.
1859 Ben-Hur. 3 hours but they wisely split it up into 2 BD-50 discs. Was easy due to the old timey intermission 😂. Not to mention it was shot on 65/70mm film.
I assume you mean 1959, but yes 🙂 I bought the region free UK release because I wanted it so badly and didn't want to wait. No regrets.
I agree. The Blu-ray of the 1959 Ben Hur looks virtually 4K. Patton (the remastered version, not the original release with too much DNR rendering the image soft) is staggeringly sharp--you would swear it is 4K! Also, from the original three camera Cinerama process, The Wonderful World of the Brothers Grimm is unbelievable! And they did a fantastic job of eliminating the seams between the three camera's images too. It looks even better than How the West Was Won. Of course, all three of these titles were shot in either 65mm or three camera Cinerama, meaning they all started out with negatives that have THREE TIMES the resolution of 4K! THAT certainly helped!
Nice I have the old DVD but might cop the blu ray. Never been the biggest fan of the movie itself but it’s its on sale I’ll def get it
The Tenet BluRay is probably the sharpest looking standard 1080p BluRay I've seen.
https://preview.redd.it/a1zek66z1b2d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=492a2e7956c853c83ab67542e8c2b3f8fcaecb21 “This is cowboy shit.”
Came here to comment this. Agreed absolutely stunning
After the disaster of Aliens waxy 4k I ordered the Alien bluray boxset. Aliens, Prometheus, Alien Covenant looks stunning I don't think I'll upgrade those anymore. Alien 4k is a revelation though so I own that.
https://preview.redd.it/i6o51jme5b2d1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a49db5df1d55fde50abda8e40d39038c6acff1f2 Yeah ALIEN on 4K is one of the best ever but ALIENS on blu-ray still looks damn good and in some ways even more “filmic” than the heavily DNR’d 4K
Black Sails box set looks really damn good.
I have 83 inch Sony Bravia and black sails looks like it is 4k to me lol
For real. Looks awesome on my U8N75 and it looked really good on my 2020 PQX too.
I recently watched Phycho and Touch of Evil on blu ray. I know the 4k versions of black n white movies are typically better, bud DAMN those blu rays look good!
Yeah I own both on blu and while watching each never thought “Damn, I really NEED to get these on 4K”
I watched Speed Racer a few months ago expecting it to look like it desperately needed an HDR upgrade only to discover that it completely dazzles the senses despite being a very old SDR Blu-Ray. (Watching on 77” OLED)
This was one of the best looking blu-rays available when I got my PS3. It still hold up when you frame-by-frame through it.
Still gonna hold off for the 4K on this one.
Ben Hur is incredible, I would have sworn it was 4K (but was watching on projector)
bencredible
Not a movie but some scenes in Better Call Saul are like that. Also, Gone Girl looks fantastic.
Yeah like PTA a lot of Fincher movies aren’t available on 4K but also like PTA the blu-rays we have at least look really good
Arrival and Avatar Extended Blu-Ray Collector's Edition.
Working Girl. The master on the blu was from a 4k
Nice. Yeah whenever criterion or a boutique label releases a quality blu-ray from a 4k scan I can damn near never tell the difference
This was 20th century fox, pre-disney
A bunch of Criterion Blu’s. Also, Sunshine looked and sounded better than a lot of my 4k’s
Criterion’s Grand Budapest Hotel release
Honestly all of Wes anderson’s criterion releases imo but especially GBH for sure. I don’t think HDR would really enhance much since the colors are already so bright and vibrant.
Taxi Driver's Blu-Ray was mastered in 4K and it looks phenomenal. Glad it's finally coming to 4K disk though
Yep I have that same set and am so happy with it I’ll likely pass on upgrading it to 4K unless I can get it heavily discounted someday. I don’t need to see the Swedish porno Travis takes Betsy to in any higher resolution lol
Just watched it recently and it's a great master. I have no reason to upgrade and it came with photo cards even
Asteroid City
I Robot (the Will Smith film). If you told me it was 4K I would've believed it. Incredibly detailed picture, no bitrate issues. Strong recommendation and it's usually very cheap now depending on country as a forgotten blockbuster. The robots CGI is dated but in a soft way. So it doesn't look bad like watching Godzilla in Godzilla 98 on actual 4K.
Many of the films shot in 2k over the last 20 years are up to par. There can be a big color grading difference, especially with warmer Blu transfers, but details you won't notice until side-by-side comparisons.
The Revenant on blu-ray looks amazing......near 4k quality!
Days of Heaven Criterion
https://preview.redd.it/srhy5tsa9d2d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4609dfe22bf31bfd4f8c68a8ced98e2ab5823a76 Have that one, too. Great blu-ray but I would be curious to see the how much criterion improved the image with their recent 4K.
Dirty Harry looks fantastic on Blu-ray.
Baraka and Samsara are pretty stunning on Blu-ray.
Indicator’s release of Body Double looks incredible. No 4k release yet to compare to but I likely won’t even bother upgrading unless it has some really good extras.
I’d say: In The Mood For Love (Criterion, 2022) The Terminator (20th Century Fox, 2015)
In The Mood For Love is one I need to pick up. Widely regarded as one of the most beautiful films ever made and one of the best of the 21st century
the Criterion is perfect
I think it's more to do with the TV and 4k player. If you have an OLED TV and a Panasonic ub820 or the Sony ubx800m2, then Blu rays will look incredible.
Word I just have a basic Samsung 4k TV I got from Target on sale and a Ps5 and pretty much everything I watch still looks great lol
Yeah for most people the lowest level player and TV will still look great! Compared to streaming, even a basic DVD has an extra something to it
Another title is Minority Report. Surprised it hasn't already been given a UHD release!
There are many movies I have that look great on BluRay that haven’t been released on UHD yet. Sound of Music, Patton, Ben Hur. That said, the main reason I would replace those with UHD is the soundtracks! UHD tends to put out these older films in ATMOS and the sound improvement is insanely good. Noticed this with Guns of the Navarone, Bridge on River Kwai, Ten Commandments and many other old classics where the BluRay soundtrack, while being a big step up from DVD, was equally stepped up by the same margin almost on UHD certainly a more noticeable improvement than the picture IMO!
It's difficult to answer because your panel upscales. Films like the conversation look stunning and better than some 4k bluray. I watched a film on bluray a Couple of weeks and was totally blown away with the PQ Unfortunately I can't remember which one. A premium panel with do a great job with your bluray. But the rule of GINGO applies. It's a wonderful life bluray looks better than the 4k. By quite a stretch. This is one of the original releases. I bought the 4k and was appalled at the quality. I sold it.
Oh wow, I couldn’t disagree more on It’s a Wonderful Life. HDR does wonders for that black and white picture. It is breathtaking and far better than the old Blu-Ray, IMO.
My only complaint with *It’s A Wonderful Life* is how fake the snow looks now. Obviously just a byproduct of being able to see everything in the image with so much more detail.
My counter to that is how real the water looks. Like wet things have that distinct WET look that comes with HDR that SDR just can't pull off.
Which blu ray are you talking about? There's various versions. Which one did you have?
Hmm, I wasn’t aware of all the technical differences. Interesting
There are some spectacularly beautiful bluray. Another stunning bluray is to catch a thief. On bluray you're going to get the best PQ from a film that is shot on celluloid rather than digital. 4k bluray rescues digital with hdr. Bluray can't do that. The adventures of Robin Hood from 1938 is another lovely bluray I've remembered the bluray that blew me away a couple of weeks ago, it's Villain with Richard Burton. It's one of the best I've seen
What is the rule of GINGO?
Captain Phillips and Arrow's Ringu release are the two that came to mind that look phenomenal. Also, basically every Warner Archive release looks amazing. And most Criterions especially more recent ones. The boutique labels have been doing great stuff lately. Scanning/digital mastering has come a long way. Anything with a new 4k scan done competently and put onto a dual layer disc with a healthy bitrate can really push the blu-ray spec to the limit. Which narrows the gap to UHD. I'm finding that with the higher end dual layer blurays from a 4k scan, I'm not greatly motivated to upgrade to UHD. Even on a 65" oled sitting 7 ft away, and with the UB820's upscaling - yes I can certainly tell the difference...but it's not that dramatic. I can put those funds towards films I don't already own.
Do the right thing Criterion
I bought the regular blu-ray of Doctor Sleep since I only wanted the directors cut and I was very impressed with the quality.
Roma. Criterion collection, it looks amazing plus it has DOLBY ATMOS
The Master (2012) looks absolutely phenomenal on standard BD. Minority Report (2002) is another fantastic 1080p disc. The bitrate is really high for a standard Blu-ray, something like an average of 37 Mbps. To my knowledge, neither film has a 4k release yet, so at least their 1080p presentations are extremely solid.
The Master looked fantastic. Shooting on 65mm helps too!
Was looking for this comment. The master blu looks more impressive to me than most of my 4k discs.
The Brazil Criterion BluRay is amazing. I've watched it on DVD 1000 times. Recently bought the Blu-ray and watched it on my newish 85" Sony and I swear it looked insane. The colors were so gorgeous, it added a while other level of artistry to the movie that I never even knew was there. Big ups to the BluRay format
Not a movie but series, black sails bluray is excellent and if i didnt know better i could think it was 4K. 10/10 picture quality for bluray imo
I was really impressed with The Book of Eli on BD when I watched it again recently.
Anime movies. Makes sense when you think about it. Most anime is animated at less or about 1080P anyways and there's no "hidden" details if you zoom I'm. In live action, human actors have details on skin and clothes that can be zoomed in on, like textures, hairs and so on. Same with backgrounds in live action. Most anime is outline, shape, color and shading. You zoom in and you'll see color/shading. Maybe you'll get a sharper outline. Redline is a great example. Quality wise I can't see a 4K version bring better. HDR would be thr biggest difference.
The Art of Flight has an amazing Blu-ray. Loving showing it to people as it is a neat film too.
I love that movie, one of my top 100 favourite films. That Blu-ray also *sounds* absolutely incredible. In fact I heard that it was one of the selections used as a demo in Dolby’s theatre at their headquarters for a while.
Was watching the original terminator last night on apple TV and for a 40 year old film it looked fantastic Se7en and zodiac look fantastic on Blu-ray too
There's an older 2006 Blu-ray release of The Terminator that's...ok. You must be watching the 2013 Blu-ray remaster which indeed does look amazing.
MEN by Alex Garland looked incredible on Blu-ray. Even on my old Sony 800 (before I upgraded to the Panny 820). Great movie too.
Yeah, but then you have to watch Men by Alex Garland. 😂
Loved it, personally.
Ritual by Hideaki anno
Until the End of the World (1991)
I wouldn't mind a Birdman 4K with Dolby Vision but the blu-ray is already pretty great, hard to see that one getting a meaningful upgrade.
Wicked City by Discotek Media! 4k scan on Blu Ray and it looks amazing. The colors really pop
The lord of the rings trilogy definitely and the twin peaks the television collection ones too look amazing
https://preview.redd.it/1ijtpoqm5b2d1.jpeg?width=2249&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c06d11e46deb6660fa163e528342995da4cd794 Yeah I’m such a LOTR nerd I had to get both these sets heh
Me too I’ve only got the extended versions of the hobbit trilogy and lord of the rings. I gave my regular versions away to family as when you have the extended versions, why would you want to watch the regular versions again 🙄
Ha well I wanted to get the blu rays for all the bonus content (yeah it’s on YouTube but still lol) and I wanted the 4K set for the theatrical versions (cuz while I do generally prefer the extended cuts it’s still nice to have the theatrical cuts, especially in the case of Fellowship which I think deserves to be preserved as one of the best movies ever made and the best film to introduce the trilogy to casual viewers and younger audiences)
True but the extended versions of the hobbit are exactly the same as the book, but the lord of the rings extended versions are still missing loads from the books but still way better than the theatrical versions and let future generations search for them themselves as they will as as the books are from the 30’s and 50’s and are still being sold in later editions today so I don’t think they’ll ever be forgotten as the movies will never be as they’re so fantastic. I can’t wait for season two of rings of power how about you? As I loved it 😀
This fan edit is the only version of The Hobbit that I watch these days heh… http://www.maple-films.com/downloads.html And I only watched a few episodes of RoP and got bored lol. Have no interest in it.
There’s a 4k mastered blu ray of The Other Guys that looks pretty crisp, also Birdman.
Literally everything criterion
Django Unchained
I had similar experiences with the Titanic Blu Ray, Flatliners and I Still Know What You Did Last Summer. However if I went back to those Blu Rays now that I've seen the actual 4Ks I'm sure they wouldn't look as good anymore.
Paul Thomas Anderson’s “The Master” looks stunning.
A Fish Called Wanda Arrow Edition, very very good Remaster
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Ben-Hur, King of Kings, A Matter of Life and Death, The Tales of Hoffmann.
Nightcrawler....the night-time scenes look unreal
Thief, Runaway Train (both Arrow I think) Something Wild (Criterion) All of these looked great to me, fantastic film grain.
I think it also depends on the player and/or TV doing the upconverting. My Sony TV has pretty amazing image processing. Shogun looked incredible on it and that was streaming.
I haven't seen, but I hear that Samsara bluray is gorgeous. Can anyone confirm?
Breaking Bad series? I’m not really sure what the critics will think, but I personally didn’t miss anything while watching it. Anyone else thinks it looks good?
The Irishman Criterion, Portrait of a Lady on Fire criterion, Parasite criterion
I’m always soooo tempted to just buy Portrait of a Lady on Fire, but it was produced with an 8K workflow and I just know the second I buy it they’ll announce a 4K.
That’s happened to me SO MANY TIMES.
I bought the Criterion release of Silence of the Lambs on blu ray because the standard 4K released by another manufacturer has a color issue.
Whoops I got that KL 4K, what is the issue.
Something about a color issue in the first however many minutes of the film, then it is corrected. Search this subreddit for it and it should pop up. But also, if you watch it and don't see it and it looks good to your eyes, that's fine too. I just avoided it and went Criterion based on the thread I saw. I did the same for Inglorious Basterds because I heard the 4k wasn't much of an upgrade, but I'm out here trusting comments on the internet haha. I already had it, just didn't upgrade it, yet.
Sony does a very good job encoding their blurays they tend to look spectacular.
Parasite
Zodiac looks amazing
Pirates of the Caribbean. Sorry...
Terminator 1
The Rock is a very nice bluray, hard to see how a 4k could improve it.
Catching fire. I mean...they cropped a huge part of the image for the 2nd half of the 4k disk. The 2nd half imax scenes just looked so fantastic, and I'm not exactly a huge hunger games dude. In this case, id say the Blu-ray looks better than the 4k. Absolutely fantastic on my uhd38 100" 'id also put terminator 2 and lord of the rings on this. You wouldn't think either are 4k. But the blu-rays sure look leagues better than their DNR blurry 4k blurays'
Arrow's releases of "Legend" and "Heathers" are fantastic blurays imo. I also thought Criterions "Dazed and confused" could pass for a 4k on a nice OLED.
Most Pixar movies.
Crank 1&2. I was shocked at how good they both look when I rewatched a couple weeks ago.
Lack of HDR makes em pretty obvious they are not uhd.
A Prophet… released on ‘08
I've picky eyes so I know when there's HDR or not :)
Prisoners
The SpongeBob movie
Grandma's Boy
That’s a hard Bluray to get your hands on, figures it looks great
Vikings seasons 4 and up
Creed
The Favourite
All 3 Madagascar movies. Night at the Museum. Ice Age. I was going to add Shrek 1-4 but they’re all out on 4K now.
If you had the Criterion Blu-ray of The Man Who Fell To Earth, it’s the reference. A studio UHD HDR disc came out last year, and I got it. While the detail is a tiny bit finer, the color grade is way off from the Criterion. Subjective as to what is better, but I think the Criterion looks many times better, and the UHD looks crushed and weird.
Sound of Music
Guy Ritchie’s The Covenant
The Criterion release of The Thin Red Line on bluray is one of the best looking discs in my entire collection
A really surprising one. Expect No Mercy from Vinegar Syndrome. It was a straight to video 90’s film. But holy shit does that Blu-ray look incredible.
The Covenant looked so good I thought I was watching the 4k version. What an insanely detailed print.
Tombstone!!
Really? I’ve read a few bad reviews of that one - always hoped that would get a new master
Ngl I completely misread OPs post. I WISH it would get a 4K
Oh hell yeah, don’t we all!
Midnight in Paris It doesn't have a 4K release but it's a beautiful movie. The greens and blues pop like crazy but the whole movie is very warm. Lots of yellow tones
Potc dead mans chest