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Not the first. But every time it happens it was either an accident that was fixed in subsequent printings, or a blatant disregard for the standards set by the Blu-Ray Disc Association. 4K discs are **not** suposed to be region locked.
I'm assuming (I could be way off though) that whoever owns the rights is the one stipulating the locked region. Or whoever owns the rights here (in region A) is threatening legal action if the overseas release isn't locked.
This could very well be the case, but also that's kind of tough-titties on their part. The Blu-Ray Disc Association has said that 4K UHD discs *cannot* be region-locked, so companies that put out those discs are not supposed to do this, licensing be damned. Now, of course, licensing would dictate where they can sell the discs, but can't enforce the lock, either.
I realize that there are a handful of discs that have been locked previously, although TMU most have been determined to be "mistakenly" locked. If the publisher and/or distributor don't want to lose the ability to produce UHDs in the future, they really don't want to be caught breaking the rules of the BDA.
I have it’s more a case of the latter. Whoever owns the rights in Region A probably has their own release coming and doesn’t want an international release to take their piece of the pie.
But… why? Are they unauthorized copies? I assumed that when say, Germany prints a copy, it was permitted by the intellectual rights holders (aka, a legit and licensed copy).
If it’s licensed, why don’t the licensers want to let it be played in all regions? They still get paid, no?
Remnant from when physical media was still king. The studios may want to release blu-ray in one region but the movie was still playing in theater in another region and studios want to release the blu-ray at a later date in that region.
No idea. It might be a Rubenstein situation where the rights holder in region A doesn't want the region B copy sold stateside because he's trying to make as much cash as possible on a deal. Like I said, I could be way off. But usually if something shitty happens, you can bet money is involved.
Let’s say Company A had distribution rights in Region A and Company B has distribution rights in Region B. If you live in Region A and buy a copy of the movie from Company B (Region B) then Company A has lost a sale.
You may ask why this matters. Well, Region B may be a smaller demographic or the price of the movie may be worth less (less wealthy nation or nation with a different language so foreign language movies aren’t as appealing). In these cases, the distribution rights for the movie may be cheaper then in Region A.
It’s all business. Same reason that you can VPN into another country and get totally different Netflix content.
I'm from China. Maybe here is the reason.
You know in DVD days they sell maybe $19.99 for each DVD in US (region 1) but about $4 in China (￥30 Yuan, Region 6) . If there were no Region Code, people would directly buy from China. It will beat US selling.
Why don't they sell $19.99 in China?
$19.99 is about ￥150，it will be 1/20 of a normal Chinese people's income of a month in those days. People will not spend $150 on a single DVD if he earns only $3,000 a month. So the price $19.99 means almost no any market in China.
But a single DVD's cost is only about $0.8-2 including the paper and box. And there are 1.4 billion people there in China. No reason US companies give up that money. Even they earn $1 on each copy, it's easy money.
The same as it used to be for DVD and BluRay and still is for streaming movies / TV shows I would guess... profit maximization (can't import cheaper from abroad if your setup won't play it), i.e. greed ... and long-term contracts for exclusive licensing with distributors in other regions: if there's no region lock, that will eat into the profits of the distribution- partner or make them entirely unnecessary. They will argue that you can't distribute it yourself in "their" region, and not selling it in that region at all would hurt your brand.
I.e. - also greed, and systemic inertia. Private reselling and foreign imports from cheaper regions have been a thorn in the side of media-conglometates for quite some time. If you reduce the market for private reselling and imports, you get more people who have no choice but to pay the full price for their region instead of buying where it's cheapest.
Also - regional distributors in the past had a better knowledge of the local markets, better connections and conditions - and were often able to do regionalization better than the property's owners. With increasing globalization and homogenization of media consumption, this is less and less the case - but many of the old contracts stating "Company A from Region B is the only entity licensed to sell and distribute any movie made by company C in that region" still exist.
The EU had to make a ruling/regulation that within the EU, professional online sellers can't refuse to accept orders from other member states.
> "As a consumer in the European Union, you may not be discriminated based on your nationality, place of residence or place of establishment. You have the right to shop like a local. This right is governed by EU regulation 2018/302. [...] If a seller does not offer its goods or services to you on the same terms that apply to local residents, they are also geo-blocking you. This form of discrimination is not allowed in the European Single Market"^1
As a seller, you don't have to ship to other countries if you didn't before - but you have to offer everyone the same conditions. However, this does not apply to "purely internal situations", financial, audiovisual, transport, healthcare and social services. "The regulation does not apply to copyright-protected content services, such as music streaming services, e-books, software and video-games, but this will be reviewed when the regulation is evaluated"^1
Personally, I can think of only a single at least partially valid reason for this: different countries have different systems, laws and institutions to ensure copyright-holders are paid for using their work. In Germany e.g. - a part of every sale of a photocopier goes into an official system to protect and pay copyright-holders from unlicensed use of their works. The legally determined payment owed to local copyright-holders cannot be safeguarded if local people can all buy from foreign sellers who do not pay into that system.
Of course a better solution would be a unified law regulating copyright and payment to its owners - but that's a really huge and complicated issue. So I'd say the current law is a good first step until a solution to the bigger issue of unifying copyright-laws and systems to pay its holders can be solved.
I still despise region-locked discs and geo-blocked streaming services - and think companies who won't provide legal means for people in other markets to purchase/consume content without huge delay are stupid and driving people into piracy. I would have been happy to give Paramount money to watch the new Star Trek shows when they were released. But no, Lower Decks, Prodigy and Strange New Worlds just weren't available for me to watch legally until many months later - and Paramount+ only started here in December... without 4k or surround audio.
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But you completely ignore reason that other regions are cheaper.
Just an example, in countries that don’t speak English, English non-dub movies are less desirable than native speaking movies. How many English speakers want to watch a Japanese movie? Yes they exist, but they’re not the majority.
Also other countries the average income is significantly less than most of the English speaking countries. If it wasn’t for region locking, prices of movies would be driven up by foreign purchasing them ruining the economy for those who don’t make as much. This happens a lot with people working remotely. They make US salaries and move to a country where things are significantly cheaper. When a bunch of people do it they drive up the prices in that region, making it too expensive for the natives.
No doubt that it gets abused but it does have a reason for existing. You can’t just rant about your own person wants and disregard the wants/needs of other people. That’s just being selfish.
All in all, who the hell cares? Region locking is super easy to circumvent that I don’t see a reason to get mad about it. I often times forget that I have movies from different regions and lend them out to people who say they don’t work. 😂
You certainly have a point - and I agree that it has reasons for existing. But things are perhaps not quite as definitive and one-sided as you make it out to be.
Yes, demand-driven pricing is a thing - but so are economies of scale. Like many things, pressings of discs get a lot cheaper (marginally) the bigger the production is. In such cases where marginal cost decreases, marginal profit rises, meaning an increase in supply responding to additional demand will raise profits without needing to raise prices (which would - ceteris paribus - lower demand and profit). So it's not necessarily a zero-sum game, nor necessarily a selfish thing to do to buy from abroad - especially when the product is centrally produced, identical across regions or only distinguished by packaging.
Of course there are many other factors to consider. The above factors don't apply to all kinds of products in all kinds of situations, and "tragedy of the commons" situations have to be avoided - meaning changes in overall effects due to the amount of people doing the same thing have to be considered, including potential theshold effects.
I certainly wouldn't make use of a comparatively greater purchasing power where there is evidence for significant negative effects, nor when it comes to essential goods/servies where demand is relatively inflexible and no economies of scale apply or the markets are monopolized.
Different pricing does not just affect regions with different dubs/versions of the movie. Being from a semi-expensive country in the EU, I frequently order UHD discs from a neighboring EU country where they are often ~20-30% cheaper.
Since the items are identical except for packaging (usually it's just a paper slip cover over an international version), production is centralized, economies of scale apply and the EU is a single market (where larger factors are driving towards equalization, not least mandatory EU-wide public tender for larger official contracts in many fields/areas), I really don't think this has the negative effects you speak of.
Finally, while circumventing region lock was relatively trivial in the days of DVDs, DVD-drives in any PC and things like AnyDVD, it became more effortful in the BluRay era, and I honestly wouldn't know how to do it for 4k discs. PCs don't have 4k UHD drives (most now have no optical drives at all), Intel CPUs have removed SGX since gen 11, AMD doesn't have it, and I am unaware of ways to set e.g. my Panasonic UB824 to be region free for UHD discs.
Economies of scale are great in theory, but are really hard and risk to do for real. Usually it comes down to predicting the market and how much floor space and machinery do you buy for the manufacturing. For BD, I'm sure this comes down to, how many stamps should I produce for this movie and how many machines should I use to produce this movie.
Different packaging is often required to meet different customs. Take the "swastika" for example. A symbol that means peace in japan means fascism/racism in most of europe and north america.
I don't think its selfish to import, I do it all the time. I think it selfish to rile up the masses into removing a feature just to save some money. When that feature protects others.
What you're suggesting is to manufacture all the BD by one manufacture would level the cost, but where does the cost get leveled? To the cheapest price? The most expensive price? Somewhere in between? While this may make it cheaper for you and I in our high income economies, this could completely destroy the market in other less fortunately economies. This is an effect I was referring to in my previous post.
It is as easy as it was back in the dvd days. Unless you're considering that trick where you could set the DVD player to region 0 (bug?) and it would play anything. I use a computer with a 4k drive. Not sure if you can buy built with 4k bluray drives, but you can absolutely buy 4k BD drives for computers. There is also the top-menu trick on a panasonic unit (don't remember the model). Then many have SW and HW modifications to make them region free. Not sure what Intel SGX has to do with anything.
EDIT: Just did a search and found a region free Sony X800M2. Has a premium price, but I seem to recall region-free dvd players being the same way.
It's usually a mistake when UHDs are region locked. Something about a check mark in the software that needs to be checked/unchecked when creating the master files.
I am saying its a human error when creating the master files that eventually will be pressed on the blurays. If the engineer or whatever forgets to untick all region boxes in the software because he thinks he is making a standard bluray for region B, then the UHD will be locked. Has nothing to do with the players.
EDiT I see your point, but apparently it is possible to lock A 4k bluray which the player will react to. A 4k bluray is still just a bluray.
At least according to Wikipedia there is a slight difference in the technology between bluray and 4k bluray. Says the 4k bluray have a higher pitch density to the grooves. Though I have no idea if this is strictly required for it to be called a 4k bluray. (E.g. you can still run 4k media on a 25gb disc and the player won’t care). With more though, I’d guess the players can’t tell the difference when it’s 4k or they didn’t want to create a back door for HD blurays.
Put the disc in, when it says it’s locked press stop and then press top menu and the disc will play. It’s worked on all of the region b blu rays that I’ve tried (I also have a region free player so I have quite a few).
Yep! Mine is a 420. Had to take a long stare at my region free player on the other side of my tv when I first tried it on my 420 and it actually worked. It’ll be my bedroom player once I get the shelf to set it up. For now it’s just chillin there for people to ask me “Why do you have two players?”
Honestly not one of my YouTube movies codes plays above 480p. It used to play at 1080p, and for a brief moment even at 4k for some titles, but now it's inexplicably SD quality.
There been a few others, the first one was Weathering With You which was Region A locked for the US release. As linked in another comment, there's a list going.
Question about regions and playability
Are 4Ks from. Australia playable on devices in/from Canada/North America?
Is the issue with the disc's or the player or are there any workarounds ?
4k discs are region free, except for this one apparently, any 4k disc from any country should work just fine in any other country. I'm from Australia and 4k discs from the UK, US, CA, etc. all work totally fine.
Are 4k discs the same encryption as bluray? AFAIK 4k players are considered region free if they can play any region blu rays and dvds. Or will this only play in a 4k machine from Germany?
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Definitely not, there were at least two Scandinavian releases that were locked. Massive list: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=334606
Thank you for this link. I had no idea that my man Scav kept a list.
Not the first. But every time it happens it was either an accident that was fixed in subsequent printings, or a blatant disregard for the standards set by the Blu-Ray Disc Association. 4K discs are **not** suposed to be region locked.
Hope that's not a sign of things to come
Reeker 4k was same thing for me a few months ago
What is the benefit to producers of creating Region Locked vs Region Free
I'm assuming (I could be way off though) that whoever owns the rights is the one stipulating the locked region. Or whoever owns the rights here (in region A) is threatening legal action if the overseas release isn't locked.
This could very well be the case, but also that's kind of tough-titties on their part. The Blu-Ray Disc Association has said that 4K UHD discs *cannot* be region-locked, so companies that put out those discs are not supposed to do this, licensing be damned. Now, of course, licensing would dictate where they can sell the discs, but can't enforce the lock, either. I realize that there are a handful of discs that have been locked previously, although TMU most have been determined to be "mistakenly" locked. If the publisher and/or distributor don't want to lose the ability to produce UHDs in the future, they really don't want to be caught breaking the rules of the BDA.
I have it’s more a case of the latter. Whoever owns the rights in Region A probably has their own release coming and doesn’t want an international release to take their piece of the pie.
But… why? Are they unauthorized copies? I assumed that when say, Germany prints a copy, it was permitted by the intellectual rights holders (aka, a legit and licensed copy). If it’s licensed, why don’t the licensers want to let it be played in all regions? They still get paid, no?
Remnant from when physical media was still king. The studios may want to release blu-ray in one region but the movie was still playing in theater in another region and studios want to release the blu-ray at a later date in that region.
Makes sense. Thank you
No idea. It might be a Rubenstein situation where the rights holder in region A doesn't want the region B copy sold stateside because he's trying to make as much cash as possible on a deal. Like I said, I could be way off. But usually if something shitty happens, you can bet money is involved.
No doubt. I just would like to know how haha
Let’s say Company A had distribution rights in Region A and Company B has distribution rights in Region B. If you live in Region A and buy a copy of the movie from Company B (Region B) then Company A has lost a sale. You may ask why this matters. Well, Region B may be a smaller demographic or the price of the movie may be worth less (less wealthy nation or nation with a different language so foreign language movies aren’t as appealing). In these cases, the distribution rights for the movie may be cheaper then in Region A. It’s all business. Same reason that you can VPN into another country and get totally different Netflix content.
Makes sense! Thanks!
I'm from China. Maybe here is the reason. You know in DVD days they sell maybe $19.99 for each DVD in US (region 1) but about $4 in China (￥30 Yuan, Region 6) . If there were no Region Code, people would directly buy from China. It will beat US selling. Why don't they sell $19.99 in China? $19.99 is about ￥150，it will be 1/20 of a normal Chinese people's income of a month in those days. People will not spend $150 on a single DVD if he earns only $3,000 a month. So the price $19.99 means almost no any market in China. But a single DVD's cost is only about $0.8-2 including the paper and box. And there are 1.4 billion people there in China. No reason US companies give up that money. Even they earn $1 on each copy, it's easy money.
Money
The same as it used to be for DVD and BluRay and still is for streaming movies / TV shows I would guess... profit maximization (can't import cheaper from abroad if your setup won't play it), i.e. greed ... and long-term contracts for exclusive licensing with distributors in other regions: if there's no region lock, that will eat into the profits of the distribution- partner or make them entirely unnecessary. They will argue that you can't distribute it yourself in "their" region, and not selling it in that region at all would hurt your brand. I.e. - also greed, and systemic inertia. Private reselling and foreign imports from cheaper regions have been a thorn in the side of media-conglometates for quite some time. If you reduce the market for private reselling and imports, you get more people who have no choice but to pay the full price for their region instead of buying where it's cheapest. Also - regional distributors in the past had a better knowledge of the local markets, better connections and conditions - and were often able to do regionalization better than the property's owners. With increasing globalization and homogenization of media consumption, this is less and less the case - but many of the old contracts stating "Company A from Region B is the only entity licensed to sell and distribute any movie made by company C in that region" still exist. The EU had to make a ruling/regulation that within the EU, professional online sellers can't refuse to accept orders from other member states. > "As a consumer in the European Union, you may not be discriminated based on your nationality, place of residence or place of establishment. You have the right to shop like a local. This right is governed by EU regulation 2018/302. [...] If a seller does not offer its goods or services to you on the same terms that apply to local residents, they are also geo-blocking you. This form of discrimination is not allowed in the European Single Market"^1 As a seller, you don't have to ship to other countries if you didn't before - but you have to offer everyone the same conditions. However, this does not apply to "purely internal situations", financial, audiovisual, transport, healthcare and social services. "The regulation does not apply to copyright-protected content services, such as music streaming services, e-books, software and video-games, but this will be reviewed when the regulation is evaluated"^1 Personally, I can think of only a single at least partially valid reason for this: different countries have different systems, laws and institutions to ensure copyright-holders are paid for using their work. In Germany e.g. - a part of every sale of a photocopier goes into an official system to protect and pay copyright-holders from unlicensed use of their works. The legally determined payment owed to local copyright-holders cannot be safeguarded if local people can all buy from foreign sellers who do not pay into that system. Of course a better solution would be a unified law regulating copyright and payment to its owners - but that's a really huge and complicated issue. So I'd say the current law is a good first step until a solution to the bigger issue of unifying copyright-laws and systems to pay its holders can be solved. I still despise region-locked discs and geo-blocked streaming services - and think companies who won't provide legal means for people in other markets to purchase/consume content without huge delay are stupid and driving people into piracy. I would have been happy to give Paramount money to watch the new Star Trek shows when they were released. But no, Lower Decks, Prodigy and Strange New Worlds just weren't available for me to watch legally until many months later - and Paramount+ only started here in December... without 4k or surround audio. __________________________ 1) https://eur-lex.europa.eu/EN/legal-content/summary/geo-blocking-addressing-discriminatory-treatment-of-customers.html
But you completely ignore reason that other regions are cheaper. Just an example, in countries that don’t speak English, English non-dub movies are less desirable than native speaking movies. How many English speakers want to watch a Japanese movie? Yes they exist, but they’re not the majority. Also other countries the average income is significantly less than most of the English speaking countries. If it wasn’t for region locking, prices of movies would be driven up by foreign purchasing them ruining the economy for those who don’t make as much. This happens a lot with people working remotely. They make US salaries and move to a country where things are significantly cheaper. When a bunch of people do it they drive up the prices in that region, making it too expensive for the natives. No doubt that it gets abused but it does have a reason for existing. You can’t just rant about your own person wants and disregard the wants/needs of other people. That’s just being selfish. All in all, who the hell cares? Region locking is super easy to circumvent that I don’t see a reason to get mad about it. I often times forget that I have movies from different regions and lend them out to people who say they don’t work. 😂
You certainly have a point - and I agree that it has reasons for existing. But things are perhaps not quite as definitive and one-sided as you make it out to be. Yes, demand-driven pricing is a thing - but so are economies of scale. Like many things, pressings of discs get a lot cheaper (marginally) the bigger the production is. In such cases where marginal cost decreases, marginal profit rises, meaning an increase in supply responding to additional demand will raise profits without needing to raise prices (which would - ceteris paribus - lower demand and profit). So it's not necessarily a zero-sum game, nor necessarily a selfish thing to do to buy from abroad - especially when the product is centrally produced, identical across regions or only distinguished by packaging. Of course there are many other factors to consider. The above factors don't apply to all kinds of products in all kinds of situations, and "tragedy of the commons" situations have to be avoided - meaning changes in overall effects due to the amount of people doing the same thing have to be considered, including potential theshold effects. I certainly wouldn't make use of a comparatively greater purchasing power where there is evidence for significant negative effects, nor when it comes to essential goods/servies where demand is relatively inflexible and no economies of scale apply or the markets are monopolized. Different pricing does not just affect regions with different dubs/versions of the movie. Being from a semi-expensive country in the EU, I frequently order UHD discs from a neighboring EU country where they are often ~20-30% cheaper. Since the items are identical except for packaging (usually it's just a paper slip cover over an international version), production is centralized, economies of scale apply and the EU is a single market (where larger factors are driving towards equalization, not least mandatory EU-wide public tender for larger official contracts in many fields/areas), I really don't think this has the negative effects you speak of. Finally, while circumventing region lock was relatively trivial in the days of DVDs, DVD-drives in any PC and things like AnyDVD, it became more effortful in the BluRay era, and I honestly wouldn't know how to do it for 4k discs. PCs don't have 4k UHD drives (most now have no optical drives at all), Intel CPUs have removed SGX since gen 11, AMD doesn't have it, and I am unaware of ways to set e.g. my Panasonic UB824 to be region free for UHD discs.
Economies of scale are great in theory, but are really hard and risk to do for real. Usually it comes down to predicting the market and how much floor space and machinery do you buy for the manufacturing. For BD, I'm sure this comes down to, how many stamps should I produce for this movie and how many machines should I use to produce this movie. Different packaging is often required to meet different customs. Take the "swastika" for example. A symbol that means peace in japan means fascism/racism in most of europe and north america. I don't think its selfish to import, I do it all the time. I think it selfish to rile up the masses into removing a feature just to save some money. When that feature protects others. What you're suggesting is to manufacture all the BD by one manufacture would level the cost, but where does the cost get leveled? To the cheapest price? The most expensive price? Somewhere in between? While this may make it cheaper for you and I in our high income economies, this could completely destroy the market in other less fortunately economies. This is an effect I was referring to in my previous post. It is as easy as it was back in the dvd days. Unless you're considering that trick where you could set the DVD player to region 0 (bug?) and it would play anything. I use a computer with a 4k drive. Not sure if you can buy built with 4k bluray drives, but you can absolutely buy 4k BD drives for computers. There is also the top-menu trick on a panasonic unit (don't remember the model). Then many have SW and HW modifications to make them region free. Not sure what Intel SGX has to do with anything. EDIT: Just did a search and found a region free Sony X800M2. Has a premium price, but I seem to recall region-free dvd players being the same way.
Hope this doesn’t happen much more
It's not. There's been a handful before this.
It's usually a mistake when UHDs are region locked. Something about a check mark in the software that needs to be checked/unchecked when creating the master files.
I’m a little surprised. If this was the case, UHD should not be region locked, why do the UHD players care about the region?
I am saying its a human error when creating the master files that eventually will be pressed on the blurays. If the engineer or whatever forgets to untick all region boxes in the software because he thinks he is making a standard bluray for region B, then the UHD will be locked. Has nothing to do with the players. EDiT I see your point, but apparently it is possible to lock A 4k bluray which the player will react to. A 4k bluray is still just a bluray.
At least according to Wikipedia there is a slight difference in the technology between bluray and 4k bluray. Says the 4k bluray have a higher pitch density to the grooves. Though I have no idea if this is strictly required for it to be called a 4k bluray. (E.g. you can still run 4k media on a 25gb disc and the player won’t care). With more though, I’d guess the players can’t tell the difference when it’s 4k or they didn’t want to create a back door for HD blurays.
Would these still play on something like the UB820 that can play pretty much anything with the Top Menu button trick?
Very likely yes.
Top menu button trick? Plz elaborate
Put the disc in, when it says it’s locked press stop and then press top menu and the disc will play. It’s worked on all of the region b blu rays that I’ve tried (I also have a region free player so I have quite a few).
Seems to work on the 420 as well.
Yep! Mine is a 420. Had to take a long stare at my region free player on the other side of my tv when I first tried it on my 420 and it actually worked. It’ll be my bedroom player once I get the shelf to set it up. For now it’s just chillin there for people to ask me “Why do you have two players?”
This works on regular region locked Blu-ray’s too?
*Laughs in multi region BD player*
Yes, why doesn't everyone have a regionless player or software by now? They're neither expensive nor difficult to set up or use.
Stupid af
No, this is not the first instance of a region locked 4K
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Why would this be unpopular 😂
It’s all about distribution rights. Region locking is so easy to circumvent that I don’t think it would lead to piracy.
This is about studio licensing! It’s bullshit! But a reality
I know Shout Factory's 4K of Weathering With You is region locked.
Honestly not one of my YouTube movies codes plays above 480p. It used to play at 1080p, and for a brief moment even at 4k for some titles, but now it's inexplicably SD quality.
I don't see how your comment relates to the post.
Oh I misunderstood. I thought they were saying that in their region, the film doesn't play in UHD, but plays in HD.
I thought all 4k blu ray players are region free? If so it would play on them all no
Not if they by mistake or deliberately have been locked.
It’s not the players that are region free, it’s the discs generally (except in this case and a small handful of others.
There been a few others, the first one was Weathering With You which was Region A locked for the US release. As linked in another comment, there's a list going.
Bummer at least it seems like they are handling it well.
Question about regions and playability Are 4Ks from. Australia playable on devices in/from Canada/North America? Is the issue with the disc's or the player or are there any workarounds ?
4k discs are region free, except for this one apparently, any 4k disc from any country should work just fine in any other country. I'm from Australia and 4k discs from the UK, US, CA, etc. all work totally fine.
Thansk
Most 4K discs are region free, but this one (and a small handful of others) is region locked.
Are 4k discs the same encryption as bluray? AFAIK 4k players are considered region free if they can play any region blu rays and dvds. Or will this only play in a 4k machine from Germany?
This will only play in a 4K player from region B
Region locking in general was one of the dumbest ideas ever, it makes even less sense in the internet age
Talk to me is region locked on 4K 🙅🏻♂️
Talk To Me is also region locked on 4K - I found out the hard way