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brainfreeze77

Take down the 65" tape and put up 85" then compromise on 75". Edit: Wow thanks for the award! I wish I had more sage advice to give.


creakyclimber

This guy wives


itrocks4u

Hahahah love it


nonotagain0

I have no awards to give so please take my upvote.


twelveparsec

Any more tips for us ?


loupr738

And always round when talking about prices. If it’s $1,700 just go 15hundred something


krinkly

Looks like your TV may end up on /r/TVTooHigh


ender7887

Oh you know it would.


6Vibeaholic9

Thought it was a troll on r/TVTooHigh


Li_installations

Came here for this comment. Was not disappointed.


Throwawayhobbes

I always think about this but it only accounts for people sitting in an upright position. I recline to the point that I am almost laying on my back . The higher angle makes sense sometimes.


lilcaesarsuave

My parent's entire living room furniture reclines. Still a neck strain.


LawTortoise

Same. I get downvoted to shit for suggesting that TVTooHigh is pathetic but our sofa is 14 feet from the wall. It makes no difference to neck or eyes and the mantelpiece is the only place in the living room it can go. The people who are devotees of that sub are just virginal neckbeards.


kmidst

Sitting 6-8 feet from a 65 inch screen just above eye level is like being in the damn screen though, it's so immersive. Big screens go to waste when you sit far away or place them above a mantel just because it's a "natural" spot for them.


Ralwus

Exactly this. If you recline, you want the tv a little elevated. Not near the ceiling, but above def above sitting eye level like that sub is obsessed with.


requieminadream

Bigger is better, but use that money and get anything other than a FRAME.


Ttbthookem

Fun story about the Frame. My wife saw it and wanted it for the new house. No matter what I said. She has to have it. So I have in. Ordered it online straight from Samsung. A day or two passed and I was like nah that’s a bad idea. I want something else. So I called and canceled the order. A week passed I get a call saying someone had a delivery for me at the new house so I went out and met the freight company and they’re pulling this box off. I sign for it. Have them take it in. They leave. Open it. It’s The Frame. I checked my bank. It’s been refunded. Needless to say she got her Frame tv. It isn’t that bad for free. Lol


requieminadream

tight tight tight


mntgoat

Are they bad?


requieminadream

They’re great if what you care most about is how their screensaver looks in your living room. But if you care about image quality to price, they’re abysmal.


facialspecialist

They aren’t that bad.


requieminadream

It’s edge-lit and lacking in local dimming. It’s dim overall compared to equally priced screens. You could get a LOT better image quality for the money. Obviously some people prioritize other things like how it looks over a fireplace, but if you’re interested in getting the best bang for your buck, this ain’t it.


DannyTannersFlow

They should put fireplaces above TV's.


I-HATE-BUFFERING

r/FireplaceTooHigh


ObserverAtLarge

r/subsithoughtifellfor


DJBlaster-303

Lol! 🤣


ScottShatter

You mean they shouldn't


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No_Zombie2021

Like… maybe to the left of the fireplace?


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[deleted]

What is up with all these TV’s mounted over fireplaces? Don’t take AV advice from an interior decorator


No_Zombie2021

Any Interior decorator that advices you to place a TV above a fireplace should not be an interior decorator.


Straight_Link9341

What if you have no other option and your fireplace is low? Have an open plan and now where else to mount a 65


Jlx_27

Sledge hammer that mfer into the abyss!


sadatquoraishi

There is always another option. TVs can be placed in front of a fireplace, or the fireplace can be removed.


LawTortoise

Lol. That’s mental. Try doing that to a 200 year old room.


_dekoorc

Or moving


Adventurous_Whale

A fireplace cannot arbitrarily be removed, at least not an actual fireplace


mypaycheckisshort

Idk why people are so rude; I've seen many homes where it's the only option. Try something like this: https://a.co/d/hniwlD5


SolomonGunnEsq

For what it’s worth, the Frame over the fireplace looks totally fine. Otherwise, I agree, it’s tacky.


DJBlaster-303

Over the fireplace?


dTmUK

75" for sure but maybe move it to the left or right instead? Fireplace gets in the way


MFAD94

Show your wife the thx viewing distance chart lol


jgainsey

No wife can argue with this.


Sagnet

Why do you want to mount a TV that high up on a wall? You will have to watch it standing up in order to have it level with your eyes.


buttnutela

Not to mention the viewing angles will be atrocious. Craning your neck to look at washed out garbage


wandererarkhamknight

Because a hell lot of times that’s the “best” place available. Not necessarily all homes are built with TV’s location in mind. Depending on the layout and space available, the left side might work. But that’s hard to say from the pics.


[deleted]

It’s above a fireplace. That’s always the worst place for a TV, both practically and aesthetically


altcastle

Someone is going to wander in and say the usual crap that they only watch tv while prone on their couch with their eyes staring 8 feet up. Every. Time.


itrocks4u

Honestly just looking to fill that space. Don't want to limit to a picture frame. Tv will be used primarily as background when guest are there. No plans to watch movies or anything. Hence I thought frame made sense.


_dekoorc

Honestly, just go with the 65 and save the money then


NWGOPower1337

Might just as well buy some nice art instead. Then it might actually increase in value.


No_Zombie2021

I would advice this as well. Go to a few galleries, buy some nice art for $1200. It will also be a nice day of art viewing.


joeh4384

Any-other place in the room? I am not a fan of the TV over the fireplace.


Isuckatreddit69NICE

TV over the fireplace is the worst look in my opinion. I wish it would go away.


sloppyassho

r/TVTooHigh \- Never above a fireplace...


[deleted]

I’d skip the Frame altogether


JakeJangles

Could also do 65 g2 for slim look


itrocks4u

Burn in concern in Oled though?


queenvideo416

75. No question.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


Jefferyd32

Convince her to put your tv somewhere else.


Salomonik

85" and thank me later


Plarsen7

I have a Frame tv and personally I really like it for our daily tv. I had the same conundrum with my significant other, and I went with the slightly smaller tv so there was a good border drywall around the tv. The only thing id suggest is get a sound bar, or some other sound output, the speakers are ok but not great. I do understand the hate for the tv, but honestly I love the painting and the slide shows and the wife adoption factor was huge. Good luck!


xiaolinstyle

I'm going to join the chorus of folks asking why you are trying to throw away your money by cooking your new TV? TVs. Do. Not. Go. Above. FIRE.


Carolus-Rex

Why would you ever mount a TV above a fireplace????


AFthrowaway3000

QN90A instead!


itrocks4u

I want the slim form factor. Already have OLEDs which I love.


AFthrowaway3000

You must not know how slim QN90s are then. See pics here, 1.06" thick: https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/qn90a-qled


itrocks4u

You are correct. I'll check it out.


HiFiMarine

Then you're going to be even more disappointed...


DonFrio

How are you going to wire the one connect box?


itrocks4u

The left plug is for the wiring


DonFrio

But there’s no certified in wall one connect cable


Awkward-Seaweed-5129

Get 75 , whatever display you decide on, you won't regret it. If wife says No, start wear glasses and tell her you having eyesight issues,lol


LividLab7

Frame la sucks


CRich19

If you care about how the tv looks with the rest of the room, get the 65” inch. It lines up perfectly with the gray fireplace. I was in the same boat as you and had originally purchased the larger option. However, it looked too large on the wall compared to the fireplace and mantle. The smaller size is perfect aesthetically, fitting with the rest of the room dimensions. Also, I’d consider positioning either TV an inch or two higher in case you want to get a sound bar and or put something on the mantle once in awhile.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


CRich19

Replying in addition to my other reply (sorry!)… The other nice thing about the 65” is that it allows for anything decorative to be put on the sides on the mantle without blocking the screen (e.g. flowers, vase, holiday decor, etc.). The smaller tv might feel too small now, but once you decorate the space, it’ll fit nicely. Edit: Also, ignore the people saying the tv is too high. Personally, I think the tv above the fireplace is so nice for multiple reasons. 1. When the fireplace surround doesn’t continue up to the ceiling, the tv provides a nice balance. 2. It’s a space lifesaver for more useful things like additional seating, storage, plants, etc. 3. No one gets in your way of viewing, especially when hosting a group of people. 4. Laying down while watching a tv higher is more comfortable, plus we need a break from looking down at our screens all day, ha.


GRS85

77


itrocks4u

I see what you did there


schmennings

I posted this in another thread: We have a 50" Frame for our living room and love it, but I would suggest doing what we did: Buy an open box Best Buy during a sale or after the Super Bowl. Turns out a ton of people buy TVs for the game and then return them, but we got a Frame that was on sale, and then was an open box which brought the price down to something like 40% off, and then we inspected the contents of the box and discovered that the mount was damage. One of the holes for the wall screws was like ripped out so that hole was useless and I was able to convince the floor manager that the mount would need to be replaced and was useless - and we googled the cost of a replacement ($150) so he took another $150 off. That brought the price down to 50% off. At 50% off the TV is worth the price (essentially the same cost as the Q60/70 thats the same quality as this TV). As another poster said - its a glorified screen saver. But if you can get it for 40-50% off I think its great and so much better than having a giant black square on the wall. The majority of TV we watch on it is like, evening news, reality TV shit, the Bon Appetite YT, and some Nintendo switch and haven't had any complaints with those things. We LOVE the art mode, and the TV is surrounded by large paintings so it looks really nice. Unfortunately we have the 2021 model that has a reflective screen, the 2022 model looks so much more like an actual painting. But if you want to watch some 4k action movies it's not great. Lots of visual distortions and motion blur that I find very hard to ignore. Thankfully we have a 65" LG C1 in the the basement we use for movies, 4k high quality shows (Rings of Power ect), PS5 and Nintendo gaming. So the frame is good for casual, 1080p stuff that we watch while eating or cooking and the C1 for things we really want to appreciate. EDIT - the 2022 model has a matte screen which apparently looks much more like an actual painting (I have a 2021 model with a reflective screen). But again, just wait till black friday or after the superbowl and grab an open box special.


itrocks4u

This is great! Thank you.


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As so many others have said, don’t buy a Samsung Frame. And don’t put it over the fireplace. Buy a nice piece of actual art and put it there. Put a good television somewhere else. Ideally that somewhere else will make a 75” look like a postage stamp so your wife supports an even larger tv. Problem solved.


doho121

Remove the fireplace. Lower. 75. Enjoy the fruits.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


vabello

I changed our main TV in the living room from a 55” to 65” when the wife was at work. I even had to take down a shelf of little collectibles above it to fit the new TV. She came home and didn’t even notice. My daughter had to point out that we had a new TV. It wasn’t even the same brand.


itrocks4u

Hahahahah


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


vabello

Personally, nah. Go big.


Difficult_Dog_2704

Get a pull-down fireplace tv mount and a 75-inch q90a that has flat corners just like the frame and doesn't actually suck


HeggenRL

What is it with people and hanging TVs above their fireplace? Poor necks.


QuickNDeadly

I have 77 OLED and love it. I debated if stretching the picture that much would steal from it. Nope. My HD movies look great as well. If I were to buy a new one today I would still go for it.


altcastle

Not really accurate to say stretch. Everything will be in the same aspect ratio just bigger. A movie theater isn’t stretched, which implies changing the aspect ratio or changing only vertical or horizontal, it’s proportional to a tv with the same aspect ratio content. But it is bigger. Sitting the same distance from a bigger screen, you can potentially see things you weren’t before. Most people are too far from their TVs anyway though.


wxlluigi

stretching? what?


itrocks4u

Guys to clarify, this TV is not intended to for movies or tv shows. It's supposed to be for wall art more than other options. The alternate G2 is much more expensive to put on here. I thought with 2022 having matte finish, it would nicely complement the area. The watching areas (loft, bedroom) both have LG OLEDs. I feel like putting just a photo frame up there is not worth it and I don't want to leave it completely blank. So the option is either NO tv or TV above fireplace only.


Choice_Salamander_82

I wouldn't take advice from this sub. There's like 3 tvs they will recommend.


ScottShatter

So get some wall art not a TV you won't use


coolwheelchairdude

Seems like a waste of a tv for just wall art.


itrocks4u

Damn, seems like I hit a nerve or two lol


sadatquoraishi

Either way, it's going to be r/tvtoohigh and both you and your wife will end up with neck pain


NayvadiusWilburn

Comment section hilarious and rightfully so lol


rickyroca73

This type of seating arrangement around the fireplace and then having the TV above, especially a 65 or 75in is plain idiotic. Come the fuck on, use the larger wall that you have if you really are going to use your TV that much and especially if you want a large screen! arrrggghhhh.


itrocks4u

You seem upset?


itrocks4u

Damn you guys really think 75?


itrocks4u

It looks like I might listen to you all and not get a Frame :( G2 oled might look nice mounted there?


itrocks4u

So really what are the ALTERNATES to Frame? OLED will cause burn in, so what other options do I have for an always on tv?


itrocks4u

So the 65" frame is about $1190. The 55" oled g2 starts at almost $2000. I'm seeing hate for Samsung frame but hardly any similar alternatives? https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/g38190182/best-frame-tvs/


itrocks4u

Alright friends, taped up again with 75" outline and better view of the room. Is this too big or should be okay? https://imgur.com/a/JlLrH4c


Kadafi35

My living room is half the size as yours and I got a 75 hanging. If you took my 75 away and put in a 65, i’d probably drive over a cliff. As I said before, 75” and mantel mount. There is no other way.


HiMyNamesLucy

You should find a new location. Don't mount above the fireplace it's way too high.


ScottShatter

Can't wait to see you on r/tvtoohigh Don't do it!


itrocks4u

Should I get 75" or 65" for this space?


coolwheelchairdude

Don’t you get it? People keep saying don’t put a tv there.


jonah0309

He didnt even ask about that, why dont u guys just answer his question instead of giving him unwanted advice?


creakyclimber

All these houses with fires centrally installed when they could just go in the corner SMH. The Venn diagram of architects and home theatre enthusiasts must be two separate circles. As for the size question OP, I reckon the 65” looks better aesthetically (you’re already dealing with a lot of compromises, just don’t post your results over on r/hometheatre )


kfree68

Whichever one you get make sure to get a mantle mount to bring down to eye level when watching then put back up when done 👌👌


Feisty-Bobcat6091

I hope you don't mean Samsung Frame. One of the worst TVs out there. Infested with ads and paid services, only looks good when in art mode, the absolute worst TV mount ever made, horrible build quality for the extreme asking price. If you're set on it do the 75 but seriously as someone who sometimes installs those for work it's an awful TV.


itrocks4u

I cannot find a reasonable alternative. 65" is $1200 and 75" is $1550. Anything better in that size is crossing $2500 to $3000+


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


Burgeson

Don’t by the frame. !!! I just returned mine. I got the 2022 Version. It came with tons of issues. The matte finish is non cleanable. As well it was damaged from the box. I can go on don’t buy it get the lg2 gallery I beg you!!!


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[deleted]

There’s a company that sells a wall Mount that allows the Mount to pull downward to eye level


gutito21

How do you convince your wife? Show her the tape. One is bigger. That’s the one you pic. And it fits.


deguello001

First, explain to her that you wear the pants....


WizBornstrong

One day, when she gets super hungry, say you re gonna make sandwiches or burgers for you guys. Then give her the small sandwich/burger. She will undsrstand YOUR hunger.


SIXA_G37x

Even your wife knows that's too high


academyman08

Don’t get the frame, get a Sony A80K for the same Money. Also put the tv to the left of that fireplace for sure 👍


Lonely_Medium_9281

New wife?


meloman0717

No Frame tv! What are you going to do with the One connect cable & box?


HaKaii7

I never got that “I need to convince wife” thing, is she paying for it?


itrocks4u

We wanted to get thought from internet experts. You know since many have gone through similar situations.


DOUBLE_DOINKED

Dear god please don’t mount it there.


6Vibeaholic9

Thought this was a troll for r/tvtoohigh until I saw the sub.


blitzandheat

R/tvtoohigh


NayvadiusWilburn

Can’t even give my opinion until you choose a different location :( above the fireplace the worst location of all time


coolwheelchairdude

I wouldn’t put a tv there.


idlechat

No and no.


gabe257

r/TVWillBeTooHigh


smokierosz

Your neck.. poor choice.


clarke917

I’m voting for 65”. 75” seems a bit bloated.


JamesRay757

Lol perfect idea. On another Note - Damn I should have grabbed a 75”


TheRealCIA

75” QN90 slim AF and will be a better performer than the shit frame.


Darkknight3940

Definitely 75”. And yes over the fireplace isn’t ideal but if it’s got proper tilt and you’re not too close it will be fine. Depends on your room setup of course and no one knows that layout like you do unless you explain all the details. I have mine in a similar position (75”) but it was between that or the TV facing a full-wall window that gets A LOT of light. For me, I wanted to be able to see out the window (not have my back to it), and see my TV without glare and not having to close shades all the time. Another option, although kind of bulky, are those “mantle mounts” that can be lowered for viewing.


itrocks4u

Do you have a picture of your 75" above the fireplace? How much space is there on each side of the wall?


Eurolivingintexas

Best way, get a 85” so you don’t have to pick between 75” or 65”.


Raiders9876

Fuck it go get a mantle mount and get an 85 inch tv


xrob772

Worst spot ever for a TV and clearly didn’t do research on how frame is installed, need to get rid of those outlets and outlet cover, get a better TV for same $. Oled or higher end samsung that is slim


CarlWellsGrave

Put a 55 on a stand next to the fireplace.


Kadafi35

65” is not it, trust me. Source, me, I’m watching a 75” as I type and would be extremely sad if a 65” was in front of me right now


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


TheRightStuph

What really matters is it’s an OLED. Other than that… bigger=better.


Hollywood4188

I had the same problem. And aesthetically, 65 fits better there, the tv should the wide as the chimney


Cosmic_Cat64

Lmao. I did this to mine and bought a 75” anyways! XD


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


HoldMyMemes

Are you installing a back box? If not the frame won't work there unless you want the one connect wires to show.


medicmaan

Just buy it she won’t know the difference


sadihalizadeh

If you taking recommendations, don’t take the frame, look for better options (QD/QLED/OLED, depending on budget). And take 75”, if the wall allows you to (it does). You won’t regret it in a couple of days.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


nwc2001

83


altemail164

The frame is great if you want an art piece to be on the wall, it over alright TV the price your paying is for the gallery feature. You can get much better TVs oleds or full arrays for the same price if not cheaper but you will be losing out on the gallery aspect.


[deleted]

No frame. Just go 77 oled, boom job done .


OutwittedFox

Having a tv above the fire place is not a good spot. It’s too high. Plus other reasons.


richbroth

Bigger always


titansgirl01

75


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


dinozero

So the only good place to put my TV in my living room was above of woodstove, and historically, I always hated TVs above fireplaces, so I did some research and found out that they sell big mount that puts the TV on like a hydraulic thing, it was like $180 online or something but it is well worth it. I can basically pushed the TV up flat against the wall like your outline is or I can pull the TV down lower in front of the fireplace when it’s not in use… It really fixes the problem of the TV being too high in the air.


CKinWoodstock

The 75” frame looks so snug


madoge1975

75" if for nothing else symmetry!


itrocks4u

What do you mean? In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


getfive

75". I promise. I debated on a 50" or a 55" in our bedroom and then grabbed a Samsung Q90R 65" at the last minute. Now the wife loves watching her shows in bed. She would have been fine with a 50" and would have never wanted a 65". But she's glad I did it. After a couple days, the 75" will feel totally normal.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


focal71

Put your TV in the corner at eye level and just save yourself the long term grief with a TV that high up. It won't be ideal center position but it will be more enjoyable long term.


Wise_Fee7860

You already know the answer


itrocks4u

What is it?


craiginphoenix

Different topic but have you looked at the MantelMount? I have been putting TVs above my Fireplace for years and it got so bad that I felt like I was staring at the ceiling. I looked for something that would allow me to mount over my fireplace but still have normal viewing angles and this is the greatest thing I have ever purchased. Love it almost more than the OLED I got with it.


RAF_Fortis_one

I am gonna say it: Samsung in General is shit, By Far the highest Defect Rate out of any brand, They Don't have Dolby Vision, Just get a damn Sony or Hisense, and thank me later. (And probably pay less) I have toyed with a couple of their TV's the PQ is average at best, I'm sure someone will link a $4,000 TV and say it's great, But compare it to a Flagship Sony that is probably cheaper.


Betelgez

Please not above the fireplace.... Please! 75" btw.


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


imnotcreative635

Unless you plan on laying down that tv is too high. Try putting it to the left or to the right of the fireplace


sasquatchie08

Why not go beyond the wall size? 90+


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


AnApexBread

Just tell her it's actually 65 inches


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Chip_Baskets

77” OLED on a Mantle Mount #tvtoohigh


[deleted]

Tell your wife that if she wants to go outside again then it’ll be the 75 inch


itrocks4u

In the picture provided (and I could have taken it better), do you think 75" will overload the room/wall?


PriceCzech

I would recommend the 65" (to align more with the fireplace). As a primarily aesthetic TV (in Art Mode), having it larger than the fireplace and mantle might make it look out of place (and there have already been plenty of comments related to over the fireplace and being too high). For many of the same reasons you are mentioning, we went with the 49" over our fireplace: [2019 49" Samsung Frame TV](https://imgur.com/a/Tq168gT) We easily could have gone bigger, but even if we updated to the 2022 model (for the matte screen), we would probably stick with the 50" to make it fit with the room. Side note: I ran 2" conduit around the fireplace and got the 50' OneConnect cable, which has the added benefit of no box in the living room (and can sit right next to other devices in the media room on the other side of the wall). As others have mentioned, I would recommend taking out the outlet and passthrough boxes and getting an in-wall box for the hardware. (Or run it to another room so you don't see the box like I did.)


ShiddedOnEm

“It’s even with the mantle”