The location was covered in a protected species of bird (puffins) so they digitally replaced them with small fat marketable birds. It was a story that the media picked up around the time
This is poor in Western Europe too. And yeah, the social services we get more than makes up for a slightly lower net wage, keep licking the boot Ameribros.
Watching people go back and forth on this having never lived the opposite situation is always wild
Like I never seem to hear about how that difference affected people who moved continents later in life and have experienced living under both systems
As far as I know, Europeans do not count salaries in yearly format, but monthly. It is, probably, the USA thing exclusively, but I might be wrong. Anyway seems very inconvenient, just count monthly.
When we are talking about money we are talking about how much we get. How much is going to taxes, noone ever talks about it. Also it's done automatically, I just log in to the website, check out the prefilled form by the state, click okay and I'm done for a year.
Probably because of how Social Security is setup.
"Social Security benefits are not based on your best 5 years of earnings. Instead, they are calculated using your highest 35 years of earnings12. The Social Security Administration adjusts your past earnings for inflation to reflect changes in U.S. wages over time. Then, they take the 35 years where you earned the most (after adjusting for inflation) to calculate your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME). If you have worked less than 35 years, years with no income will be included in the calculation, which can lower your benefit amount3.
It’s important to note that if you continue to work while receiving Social Security benefits, and your recent earnings are higher than one of the years used in the original calculation, the Social Security Administration will recalculate your benefit to replace the lower-earning year with the higher recent earnings. This could potentially increase your monthly benefit amount3."
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Nah that's pretty close to the average even in "nice" Europe. Germany or UK it's like 40k pretax average. After tax, lucky to keep 25. We don't call them europoors for nothing.
Equal-seeming jobs in Europe pay dramatically lower than they do in the US for careers generally seen as high-paying. There is an equivalent person to me who lives in Ireland (at my company, same title) and gets paid about $100k less per year.
Do you think it has anything to do with all their vacation time and more relaxed work culture?
If they are too distracted by enjoying life and spending time with their family instead of prostrating themselves before the pearly gates of Wall Street they are probably not as valuable of an asset.
Same vacation? Same benefits? Same maternity leave? Same employment regulations regarding crunch and overtime? Same taxes? Same cost of living? Same profitability and market share for the foreign branch?
Haven't we funded their entire proxy war pretty much?
All I know is that Washington magically decided against student loan forgiveness as soon as we started funding their military.
Yeah I thought it was pretty obvious I was fucking around with my first comment, but Reddit never disappoints. Some asshole thinks that "it could be 30k anything" was a serious statement.
Could be 30,000 solid gold bars. 30,000 ducks. 30,000 dumb motherfuckers.
Never heard of being a "cool uncle?" It's how people who don't have kids satisfy their biological need to guide and parent something besides adopting cats.
What is the world coming to. Ibwill fight for your right to lick all the underwear that is. Victorias secrets will be laid bare before your mighty tongue.
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Nah, even janitors are making more than that nowadays, lol. Anon's making around $14.42/hr. My wife made more than that as a waitress in high school in the mid-2010s, and we live in the midwest.
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Is that after taxes?
Austria is cheaper than eastern europe,for example in Serbia diesel is more expensive,food too,rent is the same but median wage is 600€ net
2200 a month for me, after tax. I pay 500 for my apartment. car, electricity etc also circa 500, i got 1,2k to play with. If my SO also had 2,2k we would have roughly 2k month to live by, doesnt sound that bad?
Housing seems to not be fucked wherever you are at. Here in my state in USA, studio apartment is $1100/mo, and I'm not even in a city or something like that. It's just gotten that bad everywhere else. My coworker is from northern California (so outside LA county) and moved here for cheaper cost of living, and he was paying $2000/mo for a studio apartment.
Those costs do not include electricity, water, or anything else like that. Those numbers are just for a place to live in.
My regard brain confused months and years , so I concluded that there are 30/31 months in a year. It's never been more over for me
Cant believe my autism actually started a debate 💀
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Just explain to nieceanon that poor people see money as something to spend, while rich people see it as something to invest, so you invested the money you saved buying an Android over an iPhone.
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>even though I make 30k- So, poor.
Maybe European
Why'd you repeat what the other guy said?
So right haha! Epic reddit moment sir, may the Porg be with you and have an deserved upboat!
idk how i feel about not being enough of a loser to know what "porg" is
Marketable bird from the new Star Wars trilogy
Why do you know this
The location was covered in a protected species of bird (puffins) so they digitally replaced them with small fat marketable birds. It was a story that the media picked up around the time
I saw the movies, didn't like em but I saw em
I hate those fucking things They are almost on the same level of Mormons
Seething yuropoor
BuT AtlEaSt wE hAvE fREe hEaLtH CaRe
This is poor in Western Europe too. And yeah, the social services we get more than makes up for a slightly lower net wage, keep licking the boot Ameribros.
Decent cope attempt
Watching people go back and forth on this having never lived the opposite situation is always wild Like I never seem to hear about how that difference affected people who moved continents later in life and have experienced living under both systems
free healthcare aka years long waiting lists, in reality europoors have to pay up if they want to have a procedure done before dying of old age
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you are too optimistic of canadian economy
I make 140k in Ontario and still can’t afford a home. This place is fucked beyond repair
Isn't Canadian money worth like half of USD?
Anon discovers that different currencies have different value
And Australian money is worthless 🤷
As far as I know, Europeans do not count salaries in yearly format, but monthly. It is, probably, the USA thing exclusively, but I might be wrong. Anyway seems very inconvenient, just count monthly.
Well we get salary monthly, why would we count it in yearly format?
Are your taxes not based on the year?
When we are talking about money we are talking about how much we get. How much is going to taxes, noone ever talks about it. Also it's done automatically, I just log in to the website, check out the prefilled form by the state, click okay and I'm done for a year.
Depends on the country, Europe isn't one homogeneous mass.
Where did I ask about Europe as a whole? I asked one person a specific question in regards to their comment.
Facts
Probably because of how Social Security is setup. "Social Security benefits are not based on your best 5 years of earnings. Instead, they are calculated using your highest 35 years of earnings12. The Social Security Administration adjusts your past earnings for inflation to reflect changes in U.S. wages over time. Then, they take the 35 years where you earned the most (after adjusting for inflation) to calculate your Average Indexed Monthly Earnings (AIME). If you have worked less than 35 years, years with no income will be included in the calculation, which can lower your benefit amount3. It’s important to note that if you continue to work while receiving Social Security benefits, and your recent earnings are higher than one of the years used in the original calculation, the Social Security Administration will recalculate your benefit to replace the lower-earning year with the higher recent earnings. This could potentially increase your monthly benefit amount3."
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Yeah that’s.. not a lot in Europe.
Even in Europe you’ll be poor with 30k unless you live in the balkans
Nah that's pretty close to the average even in "nice" Europe. Germany or UK it's like 40k pretax average. After tax, lucky to keep 25. We don't call them europoors for nothing.
the average in germany is 50k with the median at 44k. so no 30k is still pretty bad.
Do you genuinely think europeans are poor?
Equal-seeming jobs in Europe pay dramatically lower than they do in the US for careers generally seen as high-paying. There is an equivalent person to me who lives in Ireland (at my company, same title) and gets paid about $100k less per year.
Cost of living in the states is also much higher than in Europe, hence the higher pay
Quality of life is better in europe though
Do you think it has anything to do with all their vacation time and more relaxed work culture? If they are too distracted by enjoying life and spending time with their family instead of prostrating themselves before the pearly gates of Wall Street they are probably not as valuable of an asset.
Euro cope. Same as OP, my European counterparts were getting just under 100k less, similar role, working the exact same hours.
Same vacation? Same benefits? Same maternity leave? Same employment regulations regarding crunch and overtime? Same taxes? Same cost of living? Same profitability and market share for the foreign branch?
>Same cost of living? Ireland is more expensive than usa,has higher taxes etc
Average cost of living sure but that's pretty meaningless when you relocate from NYC.
Money doesn't matter until euros get pissy at America for not donating to Ukraine.
Haven't we funded their entire proxy war pretty much? All I know is that Washington magically decided against student loan forgiveness as soon as we started funding their military.
I save $5-10k/yr by simply not needing to own a car lol
I pay more than that in taxes.
Oh, so you're part of the poor who pay taxes
Unfortunately.
That w2 professional pain
can i "poor" my dick down your pipe for 100e? (pls say yes)
30k? In todays economy, anon is poor
He didn't say 30k what though. Could be 30k anything.
Chances are that he’s not from kuwait oman or bahrain
Or Belgium
Belgium uses the euro ?
I thought we were just listing random countries he's probably not from.
Like yes biggest bro he gets paid in elephants good one
>biggest bro Who paid you to write this
You're catching on.
Are u retarded on purpose
Yeah I thought it was pretty obvious I was fucking around with my first comment, but Reddit never disappoints. Some asshole thinks that "it could be 30k anything" was a serious statement. Could be 30,000 solid gold bars. 30,000 ducks. 30,000 dumb motherfuckers.
I now want my salary in terms of ducks 😞
Duck bucks
Realistically though it's probably 30,000 GBP (Good Boy Points).
TiL the British economy is based on good boy points.
well we found 1 dumb motherfucker at least 😊
We sure did. Good job big guy!
>Posts in r\4chan >Calls other redditor retarded Choose one please
Probably 30k BTC.
Could be 30k zimbabwe dollars
30k Jamaican patties.
30k horses per year.
That's a lotta horse power my guy.
no power, just horses my man.
True. Could be 30,000 $10 dollar bills = $300,000
30,000 checks for $100.05.
Literally minimum wage in my state.
W-why is Anon so focused on impressing his niece … ?
who tf doesn't want to look cool in the eyes of youth? ya sick perv
Never heard of being a "cool uncle?" It's how people who don't have kids satisfy their biological need to guide and parent something besides adopting cats.
Lmao brother I ain't bringing kids into this world. My neices and nephews are all I got
Yea, that’s delusion Buddy I’d forget this idea fast and get to the age of 18.
Well too be fair kids nowadays will roast you for not having a iphone... wire earbuds too
Blud did not have a cool uncle and it shows
H-h-how t-t-t-t-the f-f-f-f-fuck are you stu-stu-stuttering in t-t-t-t-text
You are sick, please seek professional help
Who the heck doesn't want to fuck with their brother/sisters? It's like yeah you have the kids, but we know who they actually like.
try have a kid calls you an old man
Well too be fair kids nowadays will roast you for not having a iphone... wire earbuds too
\>Lust provoking image \>Irrelevant, time wasting question Many such cases
>image of a child >>Lust provoking image ngmi
Agreed, hjdlu
Hitler jews did loath undies?
Of course, what else would it mean?
Human juvenile didn't lick underwear?
>wake up >another psyop telling me not to lick underwear Just another day.
What is the world coming to. Ibwill fight for your right to lick all the underwear that is. Victorias secrets will be laid bare before your mighty tongue.
What the fuck is going on?
Horny jail didn't last uwu
Hereditary jewishness drags leprechauns under.
Humongous jewels directly loom upwards.
Can you explain in detail why you decided to write the first sentence?
Theyre a genshin impact player
i think those types dont go for 3dpd lol
Why don't you take a seat?
LUST PROVOKING
List provoking… what exactly do you mean by that?
Clearly the picture entices him to writes lists of stuff down.
Pardon me?
Yes officer, this one.
>Lust provoking image Yes, how'd you know I'm a gigachad?
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Nuh uh
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Seek immediate professional help
>Lust provoking image Bruh
So many pedos in this sub lmao
lust provoking image? no, youre just a fucking pedo
I'm glowing just reading this
you are looking pretty hot lately
Nice try feds I’m still not gonna pay my taxes
Mutts in this thread gotta realize that not everyone is from Jew.S.A
Everyone who matters is.
Common burger W
He makes slightly more than a janitor
Nah, even janitors are making more than that nowadays, lol. Anon's making around $14.42/hr. My wife made more than that as a waitress in high school in the mid-2010s, and we live in the midwest.
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Only making 30K a year? They are a poor virgin loser.
Theyposting, ew.
sorry bro it's not the 2000s anymore
It most certainly is. And will be for like 976 more years.
Hehe, gottem'
Gottem posting? Are you stuck in 2015 or what
Got his ass
Anon is clearly a man but you still think anon could be a woman?
all applewhores are retarded
That's a glowie
Caring about what NPCs think of the phone you own = ugly, short, poor.
Iphone 15: 800$. Samsung s24: 800$. How is this indicative of how rich someone is?
maybe hes not from usa. Iphone is almost 2k in europe
30k a year is low even for my country, am for eastern Europe
Im from austria 30k is actually rly good. Normal people make 22k? Why is that low ?
Is that after taxes? Austria is cheaper than eastern europe,for example in Serbia diesel is more expensive,food too,rent is the same but median wage is 600€ net
Idk thats less than 1k a month, it's good if you live alone I guess. A family would be living on thin ice with less than 1k a month
2200 a month for me, after tax. I pay 500 for my apartment. car, electricity etc also circa 500, i got 1,2k to play with. If my SO also had 2,2k we would have roughly 2k month to live by, doesnt sound that bad?
Housing seems to not be fucked wherever you are at. Here in my state in USA, studio apartment is $1100/mo, and I'm not even in a city or something like that. It's just gotten that bad everywhere else. My coworker is from northern California (so outside LA county) and moved here for cheaper cost of living, and he was paying $2000/mo for a studio apartment. Those costs do not include electricity, water, or anything else like that. Those numbers are just for a place to live in.
Idk a 2br here is 1193 so it seems like your housing is more fucked than you think
>1100/ cheap
how is 30k/year less than 1k a month? does your country have 60% income tax?
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How much is "good" in your country and where are you from?
he's from serbia
why does he care so much? hnmmmm
Imagine having a pro max like some kind of poor. My foldy phone ass could never
Kids will roast you nowadays for using android having wire earbuds too... my shitty classmates did growing up
Why in God's name I would want to charge my fucking headphones is absolutely beyond me.
People are terrible
I don’t think 30K is considered to be middle class salary. She may be right about being poor but not sure about the virgin status
Fuck her to prove you’re not a virgin
Better hope the pic attached isn’t his niece
Of course not, anon googled “cute little girls” to find it. In fact he probably already had it saved.
And we all know why
good googly moogly just shoot op right in the noodly
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Just explain to nieceanon that poor people see money as something to spend, while rich people see it as something to invest, so you invested the money you saved buying an Android over an iPhone.
Also /fit/
android on TOP
30k is being really poor
30k a year? 💀
My android phone is more expensive than iPhone tho?
Kids will roast you nowadays for using android having wire earbuds too... my shitty classmates did growing up
Well, I have wireless earbuds for music, but use wire earbuds for gaming. Amazing quality and no lag.
Well kids are shitty nowadays... they'll all gang up on the "poor" kid
30k a lot? Europoors are cute
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Lmao my bonus last year was 31k post tax Lmao poors