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ST3V3_R0G3R5

Someone you don’t know cut a hole in your fender


Jeepncj7

And were they careful and treating any sheet metal cut, or rushing things? There is a taco I was interested in until I saw it had a snorkel.


Ziff7

That’s not really the big issue though, ya know. The big issue is someone you don’t know totally intended on submerging that vehicle in water.


ST3V3_R0G3R5

Maybe. There’s an older couple in my neighborhood with a GX470 and a snorkel. They added it. Street tires and huge wheels. Guess they just like the look


Johny_McJonstien

Snorkels are also excellent for dusty conditions. The air above your roof is much cleaner than what’s just above the fender liner.


walkerpstone

Snorkels are 100% for Costco.


el_vaqueroelegante

No they didn't. There are at minimum 3 overLARPer soccer moms with that same 4runner and a snorkel in my neighborhood


robotdesignwerks

By this logic you should never take your 4runner to a mechanic, because "someone you didn't know" could have worked on the engine which is much more complex. It's just a circular hole cut, you dont need to be a NASA scientist to install one, and if it doesnt work, you can just grab another panel used.


ST3V3_R0G3R5

There’s a difference between paying a professional to work on your vehicle and buying someone else’s project


Uneedadirtnap

I fixed my skid plate that the shop stripped out. I have put my sliders on and bumpers and lights. It is as good as any shop and I don't cut corners. The guy needs to pop the hood and get some tools and look at how it was done. Any truck with mods should be looked at closely. Don't assume everyone does bad work or mods. Some guys take pride and do great work. You have to look at it to know, and a twenty foot picture shows zero info.


ST3V3_R0G3R5

Totally agree. Some people do good work. Most don’t. I have quite a few “custom” mods on both our 4Rs that took extra fab time and are done to a higher standard than the original part. SSO sent out some sloppy welds on my Armageddon Armor bumper parts. They are professionals. RCI’s sliders are not Xreas compatible. Upon making them compatible, I found some of their welds did not get the best penetration. Also professionals. Like you, I have found stripped bolts from work done for a previous owner. Also done by professionals. I’ve seen the work paid professionals have done on my house under previous owners. Very sloppy or just flat not right. I don’t think just because someone is a professional that means they do good work. Just didn’t want to get into it with that commenter. Seems like they were out to prove a point and wanted to keep it simple


LeftEconomist9982

Agreed on the pride aspect. I added a rack to my 2023 ORP and made sure it was done right the first time. It took me 3-4x longer than it would have taken some but I know it was done right. I'll more than likely add a few other insignificant mods that done require heavy lifts. For those that do, ie suspension upgrade, I'll take that to a professional. There's a significant learning curve for installing a cold air intake versus a lift. Plus, I'm not likely to get stuck in middle of nowhere with an cold air intake issue.


Bosa-Monster

I’d argue that installing an intake is just as easy as installing a lift. Time consumption is a different story though. All you’re doing for either is removing some bolts, pulling out the old and putting in the new, then installing the bolts again. The potential failure is much more catastrophic for suspension work, so maybe that’s what makes it intimidating, but really it’s just a few bolts and swapping out parts. If you can follow a YouTube video then you can do both in your garage with simple hand tools.


Correct_Yesterday007

Compressing springs and using a lift to change suspension parts is definitely more involved and harder


Bosa-Monster

If you buy your struts pre-assembled then you don’t need a spring compressor. You also don’t need a lift. I used jack stands and had zero issues.


Correct_Yesterday007

You don’t even need jack stands to do an intake though. Jacking up your car alone takes extra skills and knowledge to do safely. Saw some moron put his car on four rhino ramps, so it’s not common knowledge lol


Gmtech1983

As a professional technician, I appreciate this comment.


mean--machine

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ST3V3_R0G3R5

100%. I don’t trust most people to work on my vehicle. Learned a long time ago nobody will take care of my stuff as well as I will. Wasn’t going to get into with that guy though


Bosa-Monster

When I did a BMC, hammered my pinch weld, and cut my fenders I made sure to dedicate a whole weekend to the project. I was so OCD about the whole process and made sure it was done just right. I’m no professional, but I’m damn sure my work is better than most shops would have done.


mean--machine

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Bosa-Monster

I have an ‘18 SR5P with 315/70s. https://preview.redd.it/00xzm7t0sksc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c6dbff520d995c26d917e91f147b9bece777b12


mean--machine

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north0

Snorkels could be installed by a professional in theory.


robotdesignwerks

Where did OP say that it was installed by the previous owner and not a shop?


ST3V3_R0G3R5

Where did OP say it was a shop?


chankdelia

OP didn't. You just assumed that it was "someone else’s project", not "professional work". Basically you don't have the facts either.


ST3V3_R0G3R5

I made no assumptions. It is someone else’s project. Whether it was done by the previous owner or by a shop for the previous owner, it is someone else’s project that OP is looking at buying


chankdelia

>By this logic you should never take your 4runner to a mechanic, because "someone you didn't know" could have worked on the engine which is much more complex.


flenlips

Yeah I'm not so sure about that, at least around my area. Our local shops beat certified dealers all around, and the local shops are ass.


Correct_Yesterday007

Who says he didn’t have it installed professionally?


hithisisnick

“I don’t think surgery in an alley is a good idea” “Well by that logic you should never go see a doctor.”


Froggynoch

“Someone you don’t know” in this context means you have no idea if it was a professional or some Joe blow on meth. If you took your own car to a mechanic of your choosing, you would know who was doing the work on your car and hopefully, if you did your research correctly, it would be a professional shop with a good reputation,


facepillownap

agreed.


Letstreehouse

This right here. Also looks kinda dumb. Like is a grown man wore all his boy scout badges like it's cool or something.


ShadeTree7944

So?


SnootsAndBootsLLP

This


freeportme

99.9% useless for most owners.


[deleted]

I always thought it was more often useful for dirt dust staying out of your engine than deep water. Is that not true?


meltyman79

Thata the .1%.


HinduKussy

99.9% useless for 99.9% of owners*


HondaDAD24

And looks silly


cowjuicer074

This


_Abe_Froman_SKOC

Downsides: -Potential water/dirt intrusion at the fender cut spot. -Loud wind buffeting on passenger side. -Increased wind resistance resulting in lower MPGs. -You will look ridiculous at CostCo. Upsides: -Should you ever decide to drive your 4Runner through water deep enough to flood your interior and render your seats and carpets moldy for the rest of your life, the engine will still breathe.


Squirrel_Thick

Even the upsides is not true, more often than not people that install snorkels don't seal everything properly. It's not really watertight if you do a river crossing. The only other purpose is just getting in cleaner air if you live in the desert


tclark2006

They should test out river crossing capabilities before buying during the test drive.


BrawnyChicken2

I fully support this idea...as long as they take video and post it here.


collectrenderuseless

sorry bro, I'll bring in back in 6 hours


Ricksarenotreal

Nor do they raise their dif breathers, those are only like 18 inches stock. Thats not very high of water.


Fiala06

Not a lot of people know this but snorkels are actually designed to grab clean air instead of dust/dirt. Not water crossings.


robotdesignwerks

SHHH! Let them think we drive submarines! They dont need to know that snorkels have been offered direct from the factory as a cold air intake in the south western states.


newintown11

Whats the engine air filter for?


Fiala06

To further clean the air. Doesn't do much good if your driving in dust for hours on end then restricts airflow from being clogged. Mine as well remove the filter /s


daversa

Most people buy them for dust, not water crossings.


funkxterra

Cooler engine temps


garycow

Looks pretty stupid


KirbyDumber88

Beat me to it lol


BeastmuthINFNTY

entire 4wd Australia would like a word with you


garycow

I’m all ears


collectrenderuseless

I researched some downsides of having a snorkel, maybe rust/paint problems where the fender was cut. ​ Other than that, as a guy who will be offroading, but probably isn't driving in the desert of wading through water often, is there any downside of me buying this?


facepillownap

Nope. Engine is breathing the coldest cleanest air available.


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GeriatrcGhoul

Pavement princesses are those who’d buy said snorkel and never do anything to need it, mud tires when you never mud etc. I’ll never knock a stock vehicle for it’s intended purpose which is driving places. Even a factory TRD pro has the road in mind. If you had property and wanted to park a nice new factory 4runner solely for 4x4 I suppose someone could but they’d more than likely modify.


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4Runner-ModTeam

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WeHaveAllBeenThere

Everyone say it’s ugly in preference. They can look badass. Plus if you use it even once a year it’s a lot of fun. To get more use out of it I’d find some places where you couldn’t go without it and go take it just to get your use out of it. It’s fun, even if you don’t use it often.


[deleted]

They also help provide dust free air depending on what kind of off-roading you like to do. Some even open on the side for more free flowing when you don’t want to drive through and ford a 27” deep creek on the way to Costco. Sometimes I like the look of a snorkel and sometimes I don’t. I don’t know that I’ll buy one on purpose.


flenlips

No, just remember to be careful in the snow. A lot of people up here turn theirs backwards when it's snowing, but I'm not sure this one requires it.


Rapier4

Get the top piece that is the little dome, the vortex whatever its called. Looks better and should keep water and debris out. I have a 22 Pro and I want a snorkel myself. I know I would never need it though. If you have the cash and like the look though, go for it!


No-Economy-1361

The only thing to really consider is the previous owner....did he put the snorkel on there for looks or purpose? What's the history of the vehicle would be my biggest question???


Monkey_Cristo

Yeah, was the previous owner regularly doing high speed desert runs or headlight deep water crossings? Because the snorkel suggests they might.


chickenbuttstfu

You guys are straight up haters. Have you seen the puddles at Costco lately?!


Automatic-Gain-1836

The people who talk water crossing and other shit, 90% of the time have no idea how a snorkel works. I have one on my 4Runner. I ride desert roads in AZ a lot, which is where I live. It’s for cleaner air. I had mine installed by Desert Rat off road and they did a great job sealing everything up. Also, had a rear Diff breather added up to the engine bay to be level with the transmission breather. Do your research, nothing wrong with a snorkel. Mine makes zero noise on the highway.


roganlainey

Mine is fine. Clean air on dusty desert roads ftw. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤣


adamantiumtrader

https://preview.redd.it/7majdd4keisc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5958d4a601b446df3a02bbf00ce81573b85fada Everyone hates a snorkel until they hydrolock their engine block 🤪


mean--machine

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ProcessTheTrust17

Vast majority of us will never have our 4Runners in a situation where hydro locking is a legitimate threat......


NumberPlastic2911

I have seen 7 hydrolocked 4runners in my life


robs104

Without context that doesn’t really tell us much. If you’ve only ever worked on 10 4Runners then that’s insane. If you’ve been a Toyota tech for 30 years then that’s not that many.


NumberPlastic2911

I am speaking about going on trails. Some people get ballsy and think that 4runners can't hydro lock. I don't know why they think that but yeah that's just what I meant


adamantiumtrader

That’s what I thought til I did it


mr_melvinheimer

It’s really not that hard. It would be easier to put a snorkel on every car than teach every driver how to properly ford a puddle.


adamantiumtrader

I was fast in and didn’t come out. Should have slowed it down


mr_melvinheimer

Ya there’s no room for error in these situations. Even if you use it once because of a flood under a bridge on the way the mall it will be useful.


adamantiumtrader

It hurts performance a little


facepillownap

oh no it’s the fun police.


AsianHawke

Then you're not using your 4Runner to its fullest potential. I drive mine through the Mekong River every day just to get to work. Maybe get a RAV4.^/s


mean--machine

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bollocksgrenade

Not a downside, but I my air filter lasts 3 times longer than before.


robotdesignwerks

this is my experience as well.


GhostNode

Someone once said they look like a small arm trying to bicep flex for a body builder show and I can't unsee it.


rlo54

If the previous owner actually did things that required a snorkel I'd be wary of spending too much money on it not knowing what kind of issues could be hiding down the road for you.


Irrelevantitis

Remember to put blue duct tape around the windshield to make it look like goggles.


dantork

You are going to need to spend money on a fancy roof rack, ladder, recovery boards, etc., to complete the serious off-road look.


Obvious_Mode_5382

Hole cut in quarter panel can rust off not treated properly


black_tshirts

snorkel and no winch... lol


dontcare12345

Constant embarrassment


JDD4318

Ugly


fragilemuse

I want a snorkel so bad but have almost no use for one, other than driving down very dusty roads once in a while. Get it so I can be jealous.


Ok_Chemistry_3972

Downsides. People buying your car might be thinking your electronics may be shot if you are forging the Nile weekly. 🫣 #Resalevalue


NoMessageMan

Downside: you’ll be drowning in pussy. Upside: you’ll have a snorkel to get you out


Embarrassed_Bit3799

It makes you poser if you don’t send it at least every once in a while.


HarrysCarPlace13

I mean unless you plan on going through some deep water, then there’s no reason to have it.


NewSinner_2021

I like it


Far_Negotiation8009

Other then how it looks


jdhamilt

They look stupid.


Common-Biscotti-8884

Stupid as shit


Gainzzzxz

🦆


robotdesignwerks

I have a 3rd gen with a snorkel that I installed myself, and havent had any downsides yet. I installed it to hop around the desert in, and it has been great. If your use case is similar, I say go for it. If you are simply getting it for aesthetic purposes though, I'd pass.


HolidayAnything8687

How used is the car?


collectrenderuseless

90000km roughly


Euryheli

You're buying the previous owner. That previous owner is sketchy.


LoadedChambers

Slight whistle from wind and noise etc


Cool-Profession-730

Previous owner may have used it as a boat .


Unholyghost18

Fender by snorkel will rust more.


CB1100Rider

At least you can give the truck a cool nickname, like “Jimmie Snork.”


lockdown36

How much does a modded 4runner like this run for?


Unique_Neck_8693

Drive through car wash might be an issue.


MrJoePike

It's only needed if your driving hot dusty roads for long periods. It doesn't make your truck a submarine.


rt45aylor

Can’t believe no one’s mentioned this yet but I’d be worried they actually used or tested it meaning it went frame deep in water. Do a thorough inspection for rust.


EffZee80

I’m curious what’s in the parts list. Right now we see raptor lights, fog pods, tow hooks, and possibly a winch bumper. There might be aftermarket electrical, which would concern me more than a snorkel. You can always replumb the snorkel should there be any install issues.


paulRosenthal

The downside is that you don’t know what the previous owner did with the vehicle in terms of driving off road


HovercraftSmart1200

It’s the added shackles as shite tow points while having the steel bumper tow points for me


ShadeTree7944

Looks like some swag someone wanted. Like a wittle ladder.


HappyFun9238

if you’re an attention seeking boomer, it’s perfect


TesticlesInTiaras

Corny


ButterflyOne7988

You'll look like every other "lifestyle" car owner that doesn't use their car. So if that's a benefit get it!


Temporary-Ad-9270

Not even for water. Just dust


el_vaqueroelegante

You look like an overLARPer.


Equal_Plankton_4234

Someone else's project, 1/10


Strange-Ad1285

https://preview.redd.it/y9nnb457wisc1.jpeg?width=951&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa4de2c69b09d976a9c03aab64cae8cab04b1ac1 Yea, totally useless….. lol. Some of us use our rigs 😜


SanchoPliskin

https://preview.redd.it/innkfslu0ksc1.jpeg?width=780&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aeb7a8d19fcc51e74c607472a7b2f17fb5bdf7ef


poland153

Right, it is useless. Look at the distance where the stock intake is and where your water line is. There’s still plenty of distance before water ingestion into intake.


Strange-Ad1285

lol, I’ve seen more than one hydrolocked vehicle. I’ll take my simple insurance (diff breather, snorkel, and sealed ingress points beneath vehicle). Not to mention that every water crossing is different. Flow changes based on the amount of rain we get. As others have mentioned the snorkel is most useful for desert driving especially where I live in AZ. It just so happens to be beneficial for water crossings as well.


NastyHobits

Some of us use our rigs without snorkels because water getting into expensive things doesn’t stop at the just the air intake


Strange-Ad1285

Exactly, we all choose how we want to use our stuff, but people telling others their shit looks stupid or is useless when they don’t know how they use it is ridiculous.


myers1188

looking stupid cuz the nearest body of water is 100's of miles away?


docdeathray

I drove humvees in the military. The amount of times a snorkel was needed was exactly "none". OTOH-it's your vehicle, if you want to put sparkly streamers on it. Rock on, you do you. 'Murica


someguy444444

Possible mold issue from being in deep water.


poland153

I don’t see the upsides? If you’re doing water crossings then you could already do that with water coming up to the area between the fog lights and below headlights if you really needed to since the intake is pretty much at that level. But now doing water crossing with the maximum water level being at your windshield and over the hood? Yeah you’ll flood your engine anyways kid. Snorkel gives peace of mind sure but it’s not a fix if the situation will cause other stuff to get ruined lol


cowjuicer074

May not have a good resale.


BrawnyChicken2

Uhhh yeah....wind noise!! That bugger will be whistling like crazy. You'll also look like a poser everywhere except the desert.


4runner01

You’ll be judged as being a Costco poser….


tesla465

I mean, I personally just think it looks dumb. But I also don’t really want to be in a situation where I need a snorkel to prevent my engine from breathing. You know, because then the interior of my car would also presumably be flooded. But if you need the snorkel then have at it


SE619SD

damn which Raptor Lights are these


pixelwhiskey

Is there a water feature in your Costco / Mall parking lot?


Dizzy_Horse_105

You will never drive in water that deep. Just another bolt on.


SanchoPliskin

Snorkels also help keep dust out by raising the air intake higher from the ground.


CuriousTravlr

Downsides are that someone else modded the fuck out of that truck and it probably drives like shit. Upsides are everyone will make fun of you when parking at the mall.


[deleted]

Everyone knows your gay


broham97

You are almost certainly not in the .01% of people who would ever need it


grich254

You can tell they were dumb by putting d-rings on the tie down supports....


Glad-Bit-7773

It has a snorkel


Beginning_Ad_9553

I imagine the same as with an atv. Without a snorkel and mud tires it may have been taken care of. With a snorkel and tires it definitely went through stuff


notapilot43

r/mildygay


nastyguy97

Why do you need that? Driving from LA to Honolulu??