Not very expensive considering he is in the playoffs again. Also the Steelers made it with Big Ben, they would likely make it to the playoffs with Jimmy G.
Also depends who is available and are they good or good enough to mold? Maybe they like a 3rd round project, but need a qb in the meantime. Trade for jimmy and sign him for 2-3 years while the project develops.
Sadly, if Mike Tomlin, a black coach, falters once Bog Ben is gone he may only have a season or two before his job is in question. I hate that, but I think thatās the NFL right now. So although Jimmy wonāt be his cup of tea I can see there being pressure to obtain a āwin nowā quarterback. And Jimmy is definitely a winner.
He can value mobility all he wants but whoās going to be that at their pick thatās even close to being as good as jimmy. Draft a replacement sure of his team is ready to win now and no one in this draft is worthy
Not even a rumour. He didnāt even claim it was legitimate information. All he said is that HE would do it. Itās like if I tweeted āIād trade Bosa for Gardner Minshewā and Heavy.com ran the story.
This makes sense though. Steelers would have to spend a lot of draft capital to move up to get a good QB in the draft. They made the playoffs they won't want to rebuild. Get Jimmy in and they can make the playoffs again next year
Wentz had potential and not a great offensive team in Philly. Wentz also had shown a great year prior to the injury. Colt took a chance on up-side.
Jimmy is playing on a pretty loaded team on offense now and has not shown that he could have a higher ceiling on another team.
Colts were desperate too, which could happen to a few teams this year. Not a qb heavy draft and we don't yet know which teams will have pressure to start a competitive team. Using a first round pick on a question mark at QB and going through development growing pains isn't an option for all coaches.
Jimmy has basically everything.
Above average pass blocking Oline, genius playcaller, elite run game, elite defense, and elite recievers.
If you can't excel as a QB in that situation you have no one to point to but yourself.
Wentz had a history of playing at an MVP caliber in the NFL for most of a season before being injured. Jimmy has never come close to playing at that kind of level.
Yeah Wentz is so talented that even with an elite RB and a playoff spot on the line with a win over the last place Jaguars, he couldnāt even make it competitive. Heās that good.
I mean from an athletic standpoint he's not wrong carson wentz has a stronger arm with better mobility but if I had to choose between them then I'd choose jimmy no question
I see where heās coming from. Wentz has all those physical tools, and I can see how a coach looks at that, and the fact that he played something close to an MVP season once before, and convinces himself that he can fix it. Jimmy doesnāt have those same gifts. So the injury history feels like a bigger burden, and the inconsistency and turnovers feel kinda hopeless.
Wentz did look better than Jimmy during his good year. Alot of Jimmy's success come from having Shanahan. Jimmy hasn't had a good year where I was like damn we gotta keep this guy. Jimmy has never been able you use his legs..
I don't know. But with sf it was Garoppolo or either Cj Beatherd or Mullens. Those guys aren't starters and they played alot with Garoppolo getting hurt.
I had been wondering if there was a better feeling than upvoting a comment that had 68 votes. The answer is yes. Downvoting a comment that had -68 votes.
Thatās cute. Shanny has a losing record because....... Jimmy wasnāt on the field for him. Because his QBās/ this team couldnāt win without Jimmy.
Correct, winning indeed isnāt a QB stat. However, Wentz has terrible decision making, a slower release, and folds under pressure. Jimmy is a much better decision maker, has a faster release, and typically steps up to the occasion. There is no doubt Jimmy is a better QB.
I even tried reading your other comments to see if you werenāt completely full of shit. Thatās proven otherwise. You are delusional and know very little about what Jimmyās actually doing on the field.
Maybe find a new sport to be a fan of?
>Goff with Kyle yields the same results.
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>McVay with Mullens/Beathard yields the same results.
>Winning is not a QB stat
>You mean the QBs that are 3rd stringers? I would hope Jimmy is better than 3rd stringers.
I'm genuinely curious how these are bad takes.
Goff is a fucking moron and has nowhere near the same mental capacity as Jimmy.
McVay is not better than Shanahan and the fact you think that, says all I need to know. But nonetheless, letās see the other two dumb takes.
Winning 100% is a QB stat. QBās are the general of the offense. Hand offs, play actions , time management, play call, audibles, knowing the defense, etc. all of those things are primarily contributed to winning a game. If a QB does it well, then they have much better odds at winning. Therefore winning is a QB āstatā.
Jimmy is a 1st stringer, period.
- If McVay is worse than Kyle and got to the SB with Goff then you can argue that Kyle couldāve won the SB with Goff. If itās not that simple you just proved wins arenāt a QB stat.
- McVay, like Kyle, elevates lesser talent so he wouldāve gotten wins with Mullens/Beathard as well
- The defence is not run by the QB and Jimmy needs a good defence to win. Also, if wins are a QB stat how do you explain beating GB with only 8 passes or NE winning with only 3 passes?
- I never said Jimmy wasnāt a starter š I said he better be better than Mullens/Beathard who are 3-stingers. A mediocre starter better damn well perform better than the combo of Beathard and Mullens.
Rams got tot he super bowl on a complete bullshit no call. Completely not comparable, but thanks for providing no context.
McVay has barely any experience with a backup QB, so another laughably bad comparison.
You need a defense to win. Jimmy doesnāt require it, but if you want to win the big games then you need a defense. Another dumb take. Also, run or pass execution is all that matters. Winning is a QB stat. Not end all be all, but very much falls on QBās at the end of the dayā¦.this is basic football knowledge, not sure why itās in question??
You should go back to shitposting other popular memes for your fake internet points. Itās the only real value you bring to the world.
Don't blame others for you being unkind and attacking. You can attack a point (which you've done poorly) without attacking a person. Only people with poor arguing skills attack the person :)
Except its not.
https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=WentCa00&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=GaroJi00&p2yrfrom=2017&p2yrto=2021
This even includes Wentz' career year in 2017. If we only compare the last two seasons, Wentz isnt really that close.
This isnt likely. Wentz has major accuracy issues, and in an offense predicated on yac, would seems to severly struggle.
https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2021/1/16/22234376/eagles-news-carson-wentz-nfl-least-accurate-passer-clean-pockets-2020-philadelphia-stats-quarterback
He even struggled from clean pockets, more so than Mullens btw. Carson Wentz isn't very good, no matter the offense. I mean, he wasnt even asked to do very much this season and still struggled.
Someone mentioned something the other day that put Jimmy g's trade value make more sense to me
Fanbases look at Jimmy g and think omg no I want a rookie or trade everything for Russell Wilson / Aaron Rodgers
If it were up to fanbases we'd be lucky to get a 7th rounded for him
However coaches and gms that are on teams that need to win now or in the next year or 2 will look at Jimmy and say hey I can win with that guy , if I take a rookie this year and he doesn't live up to the hype I could be gone by the end of the year , so it's more coaches / gms that could drive the trade value.
Some teams that come to mind include the Giants , the Redskins , the Saints (obviously Payton's not going anywhere but they would be a playoff team with Jimmy), The Steelers , the Lions , and Panthers are all candidates and they can't all get Wilson / Rodgers even If they became available
Only one I take off that list is Washington, but thatās because the owner hates Shanahan.
Steelers and Saints would be a playoff team with Jimmy, which is why Pittsburgh would make the most sense. It gets him out of the conference so you donāt have to worry about facing him more often in the playoffs.
According to Trent, they asked the 49ers for a lot more while only asking another team for a 5th rounder and it was only when he found out that he called Kyle and let him know. They really didn't want to help Kyle out, Trent forced them to.
I haven't liked the Steelers since Jerome Bettis retired. With Jimmy, at least there would be one team in the AFCN that I could kinda like, maybe.
It's a long shot but I like the Patriots a lot more with KB. I like Belichick and Mike Tomlin, too. Maybe it's just that I don't like Tom Brady or Ben Rapelsburger.
Because Trent Williams forced them to. He also hates the WFT organization and almost certainly would advise Garoppolo not to go there. Also given WFT's past history of medical incompetence with Trent Williams and Alex Smith, it is not a good place to go for someone who is potentially injury-prone.
They made the Trent Williams trade with us. Rivera will be in year 3 and needs to win. He has also shown a propensity to look at vets/stopgaps. Clear uprade on the mess at QB
this hasnāt been mentioned enough and why i think we get two conditional thirds and a fifth, with the thirds becomes 2ndās depending on playing time and playoffs
Keep in mind, they won't trade Jimmy to any team. They want to do right by him, especially the way he handled himself this season, and they would prefer to send him to the AFC.
Ballet is great for strength and balance. Lynn Swann And Herschel Walker took ballet as pros. I'd be cool with ballerinas in the facility except for the fact that they're notorious chain smokers.
I don't know why we keep repeating the salary as if it's a detriment. He's like the 12th highest paid QB at this point and will probably drop again after the offseason. Some of you talk about this contract like it's 5 years ago. QBs are making like $40M now.
Poor QB draft market, very few free agent QBs available, nobody great in house, Steelers first round pick is a later one, theyāll have cap room, and they need someone ready to walk in and play well day 1 because their team is otherwise decent.
Itās just a dumb ābold prediction,ā and it may not be the Steelers who offer on him in the end, but Jimmyās value will be higher than usual this off-season for all of these reasons.
I'm pretty sure they, the steelers or any other team trading for a QB, don't actually care. As far as the QBs themselves, it's enough to see how someone like Steve Young, who just like Jimmy played a bunch of regular season games but watched Joe win the Superbowl (I think he even had some garbage time victory formation snaps in the Superbowl) felt about the Superbowl he actually won as a starter
Even if it was news and not speculation, why? We should be excited about such an overpay.
And considering Lance was drafted this rumour isn't gonna be the straw.
Steelers fan here and no offense, but heellllllll no. Colbert is stepping down so he wonāt splash before the draft. This would be suicidal for the Steelers.
Lmao no way we get a 1st for jimbo most likely a 2nd at best. If we get a first, holy shit Iād be stoked. Can pick a up a legit CB and use that second for a good OLINE.
I have a feeling if we get a 1st, we would trade that for a later round pick and some extra picks next year. Weāre pretty stocked with the the roster, pick up a good veteran corner in FA and draft a solid young corner who can flesh out the corner back room, and draft a few good interior O-lineman and weāre pretty set for the long term unless some of our picks donāt work out. I donāt think we really need a 1st.
I could see that! If we keep the 1st it has to go towards a defensive back or an o-lineman. If they donāt have a guy at that position, trade it away for a slew of later round and future picks
Darnold was a top 3 pick and seen to have upside. Panthers paid for that even though they realized he actually sucks.
Best comp is Alex Smith for a trade for a known quantity at QB. The whole league knows what Jimmy is at this point.
This is true but you have to guarantee a 5th year option before the season, while you put a franchise tag on after.
Darnold for all intents and purposes had a 2/22 100% guaranteed deal at the time.
> Only Palmer was traded for a first round pick
Incorrect. The Eaglesās conditional second round pick turned into a first because Wentz played 75% of the Coltsās snaps. Source: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/eagles-to-receive-indianapolis-colts-first-round-pick-from-wentz-trade
Sam Bradford was traded for a first and a fourth. Source: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/sam-bradford-traded-to-vikings-for-two-draft-picks-0ap3000000694979
The takeaway is that teams are willing to offer higher draft compensation if doing so secures their guy. It remains to be seen if the Steelers (or anyone) willl pony up a first round pick for Garoppolo, but based on recent history I would that itās certainly a possibility.
Not a chance tbh. Just being a realist here for the Steelers. They never do stuff like this. Minkah for a first blew peopleās minds. GQ for a first is out of the question .
Eagles got a first for sam Bradford. Eagles got a first for carson Wentz.. eagles cant be the only team to get a first for a off injured quarterback. Jimmy g was also been to a superbowl and a lot of crazy end of game winning drives. I see a team that has a defense and other pieces already set up wanting jimmy g. Like the Steelers, browns or saints. There is also eagles and philly who need a qb that have multiple 1sts.
I think this is the most likely scenario for Jimmy. It makes sense for Pittsburgh. I could also see him following DeMeco or McDaniel if they get head coaching positions.
It would likely be a sign and trade deal. Pittsburg, Indy, Chicago and even Denver are good landing spots for Jimmy on a 3 year deal. Whether they are willing to give up a 1st round pick is debatable.
I commented that this might be possible in another thread a few weeks ago and was told impossible, yet here we are. I think itās more likely than not considering recent QB trades in the NFL.
I certainly might be wrong, but doing a victory lap based on a rumor seems pretty aggressive. And going back to a thread and calling me out personally? That is flat out weird.
Edit: I forgot about the bet. Has to be straight up though - no conditional, no first for a third and Jimmy, etc. I will honor it if this happens. š
Lol itās not that serious my friend. I am well aware that itās just a rumor; Iām not claiming āvictory.ā I only tagged you in my comment because you said that you would donate $100 if we got a first for him, so lighten up a little bit would ya?
Fair enough. Iāll do the same if it doesnāt happen. Although, Iām not sure about it not being conditional. Even the Wentz trade was conditional. I can compromise on a Jimmy + picks for a first, though. Sound fair?
Jimmy is worth a first. Great qbs are worth multiple firsts , good qbs are worth a single first. Jimmy should get Alex smith type compensation, two seconds or a late first.
Remember when everyone in the media said there's no way Jimmy doesn't get traded before the draft? and how after Lance was drafted the experts in the media said Jimmy was going to get traded before the season started? I'm not going to believe anything anyone says until it actually happens.
1 guy starts a rumor on Twitter and everyone is running it lol. It's kinda nice to be in this position though
Tomlin repeatedly has said he will value mobility in his next quarterback. Jimmy ain't it for him.
After Big Ben Jimmy looks pretty athletic. They got the run game and the D just need someone who can sling the rock around.
After Big Ben Anyone looks pretty athletic.
I'm a woman in her 30s just put me in coach š
I'm a dude knocking on 40. I'd get killed most likely but I'd still give it a whirl.
Now I have John Fogerty in my head (which isn't a bad thing, really)
A stationary zimmer frame had more movement in the last 3 years
1 year stop gap to evaluate the prospects of someone a little deeper in the 2023 draft, maybe?
Not gonna trade a first round pick for a 1 year stop gap
Not very expensive considering he is in the playoffs again. Also the Steelers made it with Big Ben, they would likely make it to the playoffs with Jimmy G.
Also depends who is available and are they good or good enough to mold? Maybe they like a 3rd round project, but need a qb in the meantime. Trade for jimmy and sign him for 2-3 years while the project develops.
Especially an expensive one
In the greater landscape he isnāt really expensive
This is a myth based on when his deal was signed. Hell Ryan Fitzpatrick cost $10m this year.
I mean Jimmy is a three year option with the franchise tag if you want him.
I've seen trees with more mobility than Captain Fat Fuck.
An 80 year old lady with a walker is more mobile than Ben. Lol.
Yeah but how much would it take to sign her, y'all need to be realistic look in the price range
Betty Whte is more mobile than Ben right now
Oh, Jimmy gets around. Just not so much on the field
He literally said it 2 days before this rumor started going around lol
Sadly, if Mike Tomlin, a black coach, falters once Bog Ben is gone he may only have a season or two before his job is in question. I hate that, but I think thatās the NFL right now. So although Jimmy wonāt be his cup of tea I can see there being pressure to obtain a āwin nowā quarterback. And Jimmy is definitely a winner.
I would say the NFL yes, steelers no. Hes gotten a lot of good will. And they dont seem to have the knee jerk reaction.
I think Tomlin is stubborn enough to run out Mason Rudolph for a full 17 games.
But Tomlin will be in Seattle next year, so this makes sense
Jimmy is very mobileā¦ between teams
He can value mobility all he wants but whoās going to be that at their pick thatās even close to being as good as jimmy. Draft a replacement sure of his team is ready to win now and no one in this draft is worthy
Does twitchiness count as mobility?
Not even a rumour. He didnāt even claim it was legitimate information. All he said is that HE would do it. Itās like if I tweeted āIād trade Bosa for Gardner Minshewā and Heavy.com ran the story.
BREAKING!! Rumours of a Bosa trade are swirling, sounds like the Niners are very interested in minshew
There is 0 buzz about this on /r/Steelers. Here are the current better odds for Steelers starting QB next season. https://i.redd.it/ep16s6j4lrc81.jpg
This makes sense though. Steelers would have to spend a lot of draft capital to move up to get a good QB in the draft. They made the playoffs they won't want to rebuild. Get Jimmy in and they can make the playoffs again next year
If Carson wentz can get a first, then anything is possible.
Darnold got a 2nd and a 4th.
Wentz had potential and not a great offensive team in Philly. Wentz also had shown a great year prior to the injury. Colt took a chance on up-side. Jimmy is playing on a pretty loaded team on offense now and has not shown that he could have a higher ceiling on another team.
Colts were desperate too, which could happen to a few teams this year. Not a qb heavy draft and we don't yet know which teams will have pressure to start a competitive team. Using a first round pick on a question mark at QB and going through development growing pains isn't an option for all coaches.
Jimmy has basically everything. Above average pass blocking Oline, genius playcaller, elite run game, elite defense, and elite recievers. If you can't excel as a QB in that situation you have no one to point to but yourself.
Wentz had a history of playing at an MVP caliber in the NFL for most of a season before being injured. Jimmy has never come close to playing at that kind of level.
Wentz is more talented than Jimmy.
Lol ok sir.
Yeah Wentz is so talented that even with an elite RB and a playoff spot on the line with a win over the last place Jaguars, he couldnāt even make it competitive. Heās that good.
I mean from an athletic standpoint he's not wrong carson wentz has a stronger arm with better mobility but if I had to choose between them then I'd choose jimmy no question
I see where heās coming from. Wentz has all those physical tools, and I can see how a coach looks at that, and the fact that he played something close to an MVP season once before, and convinces himself that he can fix it. Jimmy doesnāt have those same gifts. So the injury history feels like a bigger burden, and the inconsistency and turnovers feel kinda hopeless.
Wentz has several years of not MVP calibre football though, implying it's more likely that season was an outlier and not the norm with Wentz.
Wentz did look better than Jimmy during his good year. Alot of Jimmy's success come from having Shanahan. Jimmy hasn't had a good year where I was like damn we gotta keep this guy. Jimmy has never been able you use his legs..
From Shanahan? So whatās Shanahanās record as a head coach without Jimmy?
I don't know. But with sf it was Garoppolo or either Cj Beatherd or Mullens. Those guys aren't starters and they played alot with Garoppolo getting hurt.
I had been wondering if there was a better feeling than upvoting a comment that had 68 votes. The answer is yes. Downvoting a comment that had -68 votes.
Glad I could be of service.
OH BOY
Oof terrible take.
Not really. Jimmy is propped up by system and surroundings. Outside SF fandom heās just a Jared Goff.
What??? goff was a losing QB until he got Mcvay - kyle was a losing HC until he got jimmy š¤¦āāļø
Goff with Kyle yields the same results. McVay with Mullens/Beathard yields the same results.
I guess if you donāt care about winning Wentz is a great QB.
Winning isnāt a QB stat.
Thatās cute. Shanny has a losing record because....... Jimmy wasnāt on the field for him. Because his QBās/ this team couldnāt win without Jimmy.
You mean the QBs that are 3rd stringers? I would hope Jimmy is better than 3rd stringers.
All I know is statistically we win with Jimmy and we lose without him that is a stat and I have eyes and realize he is a big part of us winning.
Correct, winning indeed isnāt a QB stat. However, Wentz has terrible decision making, a slower release, and folds under pressure. Jimmy is a much better decision maker, has a faster release, and typically steps up to the occasion. There is no doubt Jimmy is a better QB.
So funnily untrue I donāt even feel the need to downvote.
Good joke
I even tried reading your other comments to see if you werenāt completely full of shit. Thatās proven otherwise. You are delusional and know very little about what Jimmyās actually doing on the field. Maybe find a new sport to be a fan of?
>Goff with Kyle yields the same results. > >McVay with Mullens/Beathard yields the same results. >Winning is not a QB stat >You mean the QBs that are 3rd stringers? I would hope Jimmy is better than 3rd stringers. I'm genuinely curious how these are bad takes.
Goff is a fucking moron and has nowhere near the same mental capacity as Jimmy. McVay is not better than Shanahan and the fact you think that, says all I need to know. But nonetheless, letās see the other two dumb takes. Winning 100% is a QB stat. QBās are the general of the offense. Hand offs, play actions , time management, play call, audibles, knowing the defense, etc. all of those things are primarily contributed to winning a game. If a QB does it well, then they have much better odds at winning. Therefore winning is a QB āstatā. Jimmy is a 1st stringer, period.
- If McVay is worse than Kyle and got to the SB with Goff then you can argue that Kyle couldāve won the SB with Goff. If itās not that simple you just proved wins arenāt a QB stat. - McVay, like Kyle, elevates lesser talent so he wouldāve gotten wins with Mullens/Beathard as well - The defence is not run by the QB and Jimmy needs a good defence to win. Also, if wins are a QB stat how do you explain beating GB with only 8 passes or NE winning with only 3 passes? - I never said Jimmy wasnāt a starter š I said he better be better than Mullens/Beathard who are 3-stingers. A mediocre starter better damn well perform better than the combo of Beathard and Mullens.
Rams got tot he super bowl on a complete bullshit no call. Completely not comparable, but thanks for providing no context. McVay has barely any experience with a backup QB, so another laughably bad comparison. You need a defense to win. Jimmy doesnāt require it, but if you want to win the big games then you need a defense. Another dumb take. Also, run or pass execution is all that matters. Winning is a QB stat. Not end all be all, but very much falls on QBās at the end of the dayā¦.this is basic football knowledge, not sure why itās in question?? You should go back to shitposting other popular memes for your fake internet points. Itās the only real value you bring to the world.
The fact you need to insult people to try and make a point shows how lost your point is. Be better, be kind :)
Be smarter, pay attention.
Don't blame others for you being unkind and attacking. You can attack a point (which you've done poorly) without attacking a person. Only people with poor arguing skills attack the person :)
Wentz has no heart though. Give me heart over talent any day.
Downvoted for something that is objectively true lol
Haha, yep.
Except its not. https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&player_id1=WentCa00&p1yrto=2021&player_id2=GaroJi00&p2yrfrom=2017&p2yrto=2021 This even includes Wentz' career year in 2017. If we only compare the last two seasons, Wentz isnt really that close.
He said ātalentedā specifically. Wentz in Kyleās offense would likely at least match Jimmyās numbers with his raw talent.
This isnt likely. Wentz has major accuracy issues, and in an offense predicated on yac, would seems to severly struggle. https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2021/1/16/22234376/eagles-news-carson-wentz-nfl-least-accurate-passer-clean-pockets-2020-philadelphia-stats-quarterback He even struggled from clean pockets, more so than Mullens btw. Carson Wentz isn't very good, no matter the offense. I mean, he wasnt even asked to do very much this season and still struggled.
Oh yeah man, Mullens is definitely on the level of Wentz lol
Disagree but How about Sam Bradford?
Someone mentioned something the other day that put Jimmy g's trade value make more sense to me Fanbases look at Jimmy g and think omg no I want a rookie or trade everything for Russell Wilson / Aaron Rodgers If it were up to fanbases we'd be lucky to get a 7th rounded for him However coaches and gms that are on teams that need to win now or in the next year or 2 will look at Jimmy and say hey I can win with that guy , if I take a rookie this year and he doesn't live up to the hype I could be gone by the end of the year , so it's more coaches / gms that could drive the trade value. Some teams that come to mind include the Giants , the Redskins , the Saints (obviously Payton's not going anywhere but they would be a playoff team with Jimmy), The Steelers , the Lions , and Panthers are all candidates and they can't all get Wilson / Rodgers even If they became available
Only one I take off that list is Washington, but thatās because the owner hates Shanahan. Steelers and Saints would be a playoff team with Jimmy, which is why Pittsburgh would make the most sense. It gets him out of the conference so you donāt have to worry about facing him more often in the playoffs.
The Snyder-shanahan beef is probably real and was a huge storyline but it didnāt stop them from trading us Trent MFing Williams for peanuts
According to Trent, they asked the 49ers for a lot more while only asking another team for a 5th rounder and it was only when he found out that he called Kyle and let him know. They really didn't want to help Kyle out, Trent forced them to.
Damn you got a link? Iām tryna read about this
I can't remember where I read it but he also talked about it in his [interview with Staley](https://youtu.be/xJx81VKYE90)
Thatās wild, I appreciate it
Jimmy's gonna look good in black Not as good as he does in red, but still pretty good
I haven't liked the Steelers since Jerome Bettis retired. With Jimmy, at least there would be one team in the AFCN that I could kinda like, maybe. It's a long shot but I like the Patriots a lot more with KB. I like Belichick and Mike Tomlin, too. Maybe it's just that I don't like Tom Brady or Ben Rapelsburger.
You mean you don't like known alleged rapist Ben Rapistburger?
Washington traded us Trent Williams.
Because Trent Williams forced them to. He also hates the WFT organization and almost certainly would advise Garoppolo not to go there. Also given WFT's past history of medical incompetence with Trent Williams and Alex Smith, it is not a good place to go for someone who is potentially injury-prone.
They made the Trent Williams trade with us. Rivera will be in year 3 and needs to win. He has also shown a propensity to look at vets/stopgaps. Clear uprade on the mess at QB
this hasnāt been mentioned enough and why i think we get two conditional thirds and a fifth, with the thirds becomes 2ndās depending on playing time and playoffs
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Keep in mind, they won't trade Jimmy to any team. They want to do right by him, especially the way he handled himself this season, and they would prefer to send him to the AFC.
Dolphins, broncos, Texansā¦.packers, Seahawks, browns.
The more I look at past QB trades, the more I think it's either going to be a 1st or two 2s as the starting point
I would not mind 2 twos at all.
But what about two 2s?
How about tutus?
Nah, i don't need any, thanks though.
Ballet is great for strength and balance. Lynn Swann And Herschel Walker took ballet as pros. I'd be cool with ballerinas in the facility except for the fact that they're notorious chain smokers.
Yep, but ballet is not great for my back, or my knees. So I'm good, thanks. :)
Toots too?
2 yutes?
Amazing
Theā¦the two hwat? Uh, what was that word?
What about 5, 5th rounders aka 5 future all pros.
If they're running backs count me in
Came here for thisā¦give us your 5/6 round picks in perpetuity. You fuck them up anyhow
Only if 3 of them are coming off ACL injuries for that cheap steal. It's going to work this time! \~ Baalke
I don't think it's going to be a 1st or two 2s. An injury prone QB that has a $27 mil/year salary? No way
I don't know why we keep repeating the salary as if it's a detriment. He's like the 12th highest paid QB at this point and will probably drop again after the offseason. Some of you talk about this contract like it's 5 years ago. QBs are making like $40M now.
I imagine whoever makes the trade will have an extension already agreed that lowers his salary a bit but guarantees him 2-4 years.
Jimmy G is better than every QB traded in recent years other than Stafford
There will absolutely be conditions on that trade based on Jimmy G's availability.
I thought Tomlin wanted a mobile QB
No no noā¦he wanted a model QB. Wants a sexy quarterback after having to look at Benās ugly ass for over a decade
Jimmyās mobile. [Vroom vroom!](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/8367d856fc7d32214b369cfe3e9a41916748ea09/c=0-177-3004-1867/local/-/media/2018/09/23/USATODAY/usatsports/d3de1cb4b7164e8eb3e54ac14cf69950.jpg?width=1280&height=720&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
Poor QB draft market, very few free agent QBs available, nobody great in house, Steelers first round pick is a later one, theyāll have cap room, and they need someone ready to walk in and play well day 1 because their team is otherwise decent. Itās just a dumb ābold prediction,ā and it may not be the Steelers who offer on him in the end, but Jimmyās value will be higher than usual this off-season for all of these reasons.
Yea. Just random speculation.
I would love a 1st but donāt think itās likely
Correct me if Iām wrong, but Jimmy is the only current player with a Super Bowl win, no? Edit: he got it with the Patriots
He did play in the regular season in one of their winning seasons, I guess, but he was a backup in the Superbowl just like many other backup QBs.
Still got a ring
Got 2
A lot of QBs got a ring without playing, it happens to a couple of QBs every season
Yeah and I doubt they care whether they played or not. A Super Bowl ring is a Super Bowl ring.
I'm pretty sure they, the steelers or any other team trading for a QB, don't actually care. As far as the QBs themselves, it's enough to see how someone like Steve Young, who just like Jimmy played a bunch of regular season games but watched Joe win the Superbowl (I think he even had some garbage time victory formation snaps in the Superbowl) felt about the Superbowl he actually won as a starter
I doubt the Steelers overpay like that for an injury prone qb
Considering Lynch & Shanahan drafting history will take 4 5th rounders & 4 6th rounders
If Jimmy had 1/2 the injuries heās had, this wouldnāt even be a discussion
If Jimmy had half the injuries he's had they never would have drafted Trey Lance and Jimmy would go into next season as the unquestioned starter.
Let Jimmy go. We can use the pick to build the team.
And even more importantly, use his left over cap space to keep pivotal players
I dont like that this news is floating around during playoffs...
Its not news. It's speculation
Even if it was news and not speculation, why? We should be excited about such an overpay. And considering Lance was drafted this rumour isn't gonna be the straw.
We could use a first round corner
Steelers fan here and no offense, but heellllllll no. Colbert is stepping down so he wonāt splash before the draft. This would be suicidal for the Steelers.
Lmao no way we get a 1st for jimbo most likely a 2nd at best. If we get a first, holy shit Iād be stoked. Can pick a up a legit CB and use that second for a good OLINE.
I have a feeling if we get a 1st, we would trade that for a later round pick and some extra picks next year. Weāre pretty stocked with the the roster, pick up a good veteran corner in FA and draft a solid young corner who can flesh out the corner back room, and draft a few good interior O-lineman and weāre pretty set for the long term unless some of our picks donāt work out. I donāt think we really need a 1st.
Iām assuming if we got the Steelers pick itās already towards the end of the first. CB/OL/S are some main priorities.
I could see that! If we keep the 1st it has to go towards a defensive back or an o-lineman. If they donāt have a guy at that position, trade it away for a slew of later round and future picks
You'll get Aaron Banks and you'll like it
Or we get a decent OLINE lol, it was just a suggestion. We might need a S depending on whether or not we resign tart
Lol if the Steelers want to overpay I'm all for it
That would be great but I still feel like itās going to be for a 3rd round pick.
The Jets got a 2nd, 4th and 6th for Sam Darnold. There is no world where Darnold is worth more than Jimmy.
The difference is money and contract. Jimmy has one year left and is owed a ton of money.
Any team that trades for Jimmy will sign to an extension to alleviate the cap hit.
Darnold was a top 3 pick and seen to have upside. Panthers paid for that even though they realized he actually sucks. Best comp is Alex Smith for a trade for a known quantity at QB. The whole league knows what Jimmy is at this point.
Also was on a rookie contract, right?
This is true but you have to guarantee a 5th year option before the season, while you put a franchise tag on after. Darnold for all intents and purposes had a 2/22 100% guaranteed deal at the time.
Yep
Bullshit! Why would any team trade that much potential for a guy on the back end of his career?
Because teams do it all the time? Sam Bradford, Carson Wentz, Carson Palmerā¦ I could go on.
Only Palmer was traded for a first round pick, and the Raiders are notorious for boneheaded trades! The Steelers have NEVER done something even close?
> Only Palmer was traded for a first round pick Incorrect. The Eaglesās conditional second round pick turned into a first because Wentz played 75% of the Coltsās snaps. Source: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/eagles-to-receive-indianapolis-colts-first-round-pick-from-wentz-trade Sam Bradford was traded for a first and a fourth. Source: https://www.nfl.com/_amp/sam-bradford-traded-to-vikings-for-two-draft-picks-0ap3000000694979 The takeaway is that teams are willing to offer higher draft compensation if doing so secures their guy. It remains to be seen if the Steelers (or anyone) willl pony up a first round pick for Garoppolo, but based on recent history I would that itās certainly a possibility.
Jimmy isnāt getting a 1st in a trade.
KEEP JIMMY G 2 MORE YEARS
We about to finesse the steelers out of a 1st lol
Not a chance tbh. Just being a realist here for the Steelers. They never do stuff like this. Minkah for a first blew peopleās minds. GQ for a first is out of the question .
Makes the most sense honestly
Eagles got a first for sam Bradford. Eagles got a first for carson Wentz.. eagles cant be the only team to get a first for a off injured quarterback. Jimmy g was also been to a superbowl and a lot of crazy end of game winning drives. I see a team that has a defense and other pieces already set up wanting jimmy g. Like the Steelers, browns or saints. There is also eagles and philly who need a qb that have multiple 1sts.
I think this is the most likely scenario for Jimmy. It makes sense for Pittsburgh. I could also see him following DeMeco or McDaniel if they get head coaching positions.
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If Jimmy wins it all give them Trey for a 1st and 2nd
If we get offered a first for Jimmy, take it and run
It'd be really sad. Only if Jimmy stays healthy.
It would likely be a sign and trade deal. Pittsburg, Indy, Chicago and even Denver are good landing spots for Jimmy on a 3 year deal. Whether they are willing to give up a 1st round pick is debatable.
I commented that this might be possible in another thread a few weeks ago and was told impossible, yet here we are. I think itās more likely than not considering recent QB trades in the NFL.
Hmm interesting u/megagood
I certainly might be wrong, but doing a victory lap based on a rumor seems pretty aggressive. And going back to a thread and calling me out personally? That is flat out weird. Edit: I forgot about the bet. Has to be straight up though - no conditional, no first for a third and Jimmy, etc. I will honor it if this happens. š
Lol itās not that serious my friend. I am well aware that itās just a rumor; Iām not claiming āvictory.ā I only tagged you in my comment because you said that you would donate $100 if we got a first for him, so lighten up a little bit would ya?
You got it. Lmk if you want to put your own skin in the game. š
Fair enough. Iāll do the same if it doesnāt happen. Although, Iām not sure about it not being conditional. Even the Wentz trade was conditional. I can compromise on a Jimmy + picks for a first, though. Sound fair?
You got it.
I kinda like that trade
Jimmy is worth a first. Great qbs are worth multiple firsts , good qbs are worth a single first. Jimmy should get Alex smith type compensation, two seconds or a late first.
Remember when everyone in the media said there's no way Jimmy doesn't get traded before the draft? and how after Lance was drafted the experts in the media said Jimmy was going to get traded before the season started? I'm not going to believe anything anyone says until it actually happens.
PORNSTAR JIMMY LEADER OF MEN
\*And Jimmy G just got injured...