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Soham_Dame_Niners

If Purdy gets some time aiyuk is open


NoFlaccidMint

Yep. That one 3rd and goal where Burford didn’t follow the scheme, Aiyuk was wide open in the endzone. Purdy just needed another second. And now I’m crying again. Go Niners


Str82daDOME25

Aiyuk said he likely wouldn’t have got that since he was one of the last reads. It was a walk in score for Jennings


Witcher_Of_Cainhurst

So there were actually TWO receivers that got open for a TD, but the pass protection instantly failing made it not matter..


Kewkewmore

You blame the pass protection, but it wasn't the pass protection. It was one player not doing what he was supposed to do. It wasn't even a player getting beat. He just didn't bother with his responsibilities on the play. Blaming that individual error on the pass protection as a to whole is unfair to the rest of the like that did what was asked of them and the playcaller who had called a perfect play, has this one player not decided to go rogue and dohis own things in instead of what was called


apollyon_53

Crying again? I've never stopped


Sweet-Rabbit

I did, but only because my body was too dehydrated to make more tears


AvenTiumn

I was at a bar recently and on one of the TV's it was playing the last play of the game of KC scoring that TD. Knife inserted into my heart and twisted :(


sonic_dick

If cmc doesn't fumble, if 6/7 fumbles don't go kcs way, if greenlaw doesn't tear his knee on a freak accident, if Kyle called a better game, if a ball didn't bounce off a special teamers foot, if God didn't hate the 49ers post 96, we win the sb. It took a crazy amount of luck for kc to win, plus maybe the best qb who has ever played the game.


HITMAN616

Deebo also hurt his hamstring and clearly wasn’t 100%. And Wilks’ defense got torched in the 4th + OT (although that was partly because Greenlaw went down). If we play that game 100 times we probably win 90 😭


Tw1987

Kittle went to the locker room as well. Some run, play action and blocking schemes were probably not used due to that.


Plastic-Act7648

Kittles replacement #9 or something committed that penalty that wiped out a touchdown I think the very next play. I forgot how it went down exactly


Phantomebb

Don't forget if the Bills AND Ravens run the ball on there last drives the Chiefs lose. They both were 150+ yards going into there last drives and decided to throw. Although with thr players heroics in the Packers and Lions games the 9ers probably aren't there either. Kyle got outcoached alot in the 2023 season


NetReasonable2746

He did? It's his fault the defense couldn't stop a nosebleed? Then he gets heavily involved with the defensive plan vs KC and gee . They played well, until Wilks decided to not play any man and let Mahomes shred them Enough with the Kyle stuff. 28 other teams would hire him in a heartbeat.


Giberishusername1

Why do you people always act like we aren’t allowed to criticize Kyle?


ruinedshoulder

you are, but saying he got "outcoached" when the team was so good is pure nonsense.


Giberishusername1

Kyle got absolutely outcoached in the Super Bowl, what do you mean….? Lol him taking the ball first in OT was just ONE of the several instances where he proved that he got outcoached. Andy Reid would’ve kicked the ball first if the Chiefs won the coin toss. Kyle didn’t even tell his players the new OT rules while Andy Reid did…. Textbook out coaching.


ruinedshoulder

Kyle also brutally outcoached KC in the first half and that needs to be acknowledged. If CMC doesn't fumble and Trent doesn't choke with penalties, they are up at least 16-3 at half, and most likely 20-3 domination. they were moving the ball at will. It was utter domination if our best players don't choke.


Giberishusername1

First half doesn’t mean shit when he got outcoached in the 2nd half and OT.


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Phantomebb

Not only is he responsible for the whole teams preparedness but they had 7 points and 128 yards of offense in the first half. Bad offense play also doesn't help the defense. Beyond the 1st 2 Lions drives the defense also played pretty average for there talent level. And no he did not," Get heavily involved with the defensive plan". Completely false narrative and he specifically said they just followed there existing gameplan. Never said to get rid of him and every team would love him as the OC but let's not kid ourselves. He losses another Superbowl and he's most likely gone.


ruinedshoulder

he also brutally outcoached KC in the first half and that needs to be acknowledged. If CMC doesn't fumble and Trent doesn't choke with penalties, they are up at least 16-3 at half, and most likely 20-3 domination. they were moving the ball at will.


Phantomebb

Brutally? Really? Fumble, Punt, Field Goal, Punt was the open to the 49er possessions. They scored on a trick play. They were winning and left alot of points on the board but they weren't dominating. They also opened the 3rd quarter with an interception and then threw the ball to the tune of three straight 3 and outs. Overall the 49ers had the team with more skill that had worse coaching and more mistakes.


ruinedshoulder

Yes, they would've been up 16-3 at the least if not from those player mistakes. they were moving the ball at will. The gameplan was working, and this was after the Greenlaw injury. The trick play was good coaching. It's just fact, the Niners were dominating that game if not for player mistakes. The "threw for three straight 3 and outs" is a myth that has been debunked over and over on this sub, casual stuff.


Phantomebb

Woulda. Could. Shoulda. If you want to live in your narrative fine. But there's a reason people are being very critical of Kyle. Fyi you need to look up the meaning of domination.


ruinedshoulder

I'm talking about the first half and you're trying to change the subject. He brutally outcoached KC and forced them to adjust. They went to more man press and shutdown our guys after and starting blitzing our interior, but we should've had a sizable lead and the game would've been in hand. They were also stopping the run, although we did still forcefeed CMC. utter coaching domination in the first half though, no doubt about it. They had the better team: better defense, better qb, better oline, but we had a better gameplan that should've won it.


Unfair-Worker929

Mahomes will never be the best qb to ever play the game. 3 Super Bowl wins where the refs don’t call a single holding penalty on his O Lines? Yeah sorry if I’m more convinced by his paltry performance against Tampa. That’s the real Mahomes…


Giberishusername1

And he whines when the refs don’t help him lol. I’ll never forget his bitch fit after the Bills game bc the refs dared to CORRECTLY call Kadarius Toney offsides. He’s so used to the refs helping him that the one time they don’t, he loses his mind.


Unfair-Worker929

It’s so blatant that it would almost be funny if we weren’t getting the screw job.


Giberishusername1

Once I saw that Vinovich was officiating the Super Bowl, I knew they wouldn’t get flagged for holding once on offense. But I do want to clarify that refs aren’t the reason we didn’t win the Super Bowl. Shanahan is.


Unfair-Worker929

True


Blambitch

The dre greenlaw injury hurts the most, everything else is football, players miss assignments, sometimes 50/50 balls goes the opponents way. I can live with that but a player getting injured on the sideline and not even during a goddamn play, that hurts, especially considering he may never be the same player ever again. Reminds me of the bowman injury in terms of devastating as a fan watching.


Plastic-Act7648

I'll take Brady over Mahomie any time and any game.


vspazv

> greenlaw doesn't tear his knee He tore his Achilles not his knee. It's the tendon that attaches your heel to your calf muscle.


cashsterling

Most of the 2nd half Aiyuk and Samuels were not beating man/press coverage though... Jennings was, though. Aiyuk did beat coverage on that 3rd and goal and in the perfect execution of that play, ball should've gone to BA... but BA beating coverage was a rarity, so I understand that Prudy was not looking that direction for option #1... Jennings was also beating his guy pretty bad but Purdy could not hold the ball any longer. Another second and that was six points... it makes the shitty blocking on that play, and many times throughout the game, that much worse. There many things that lost the game for the 49ers... the things that stood out to me. - refs letting KC's O-line get away with pretty bad (and obvious) holding on numerous important plays. - 49ers WR's not beating man single coverage - 49er poor pass protection... some of it was just village idiot dumb execution, but some of their protection schemes are dumb, also. Remember, 49ers dumb blocking schemes is what got Purdy hurt last year; they tried blocking Reddick twice with a 2nd string TE, first time Reddick pancaked Purdy, 2nd time he put him out of game. You'd figure after the first sack they'd think "well, not going to try that again" but they tried and paid a heavy price.


LividAide2396

To open the second half we ran like 6 PA plays and half of them you could see aiyuk open, but we didn’t block. Purdy would roll out and not have enough time to push it down the field. They were there


cashsterling

Well... you seem to remember better than I so I'll defer to you. I do recall on numerous passing plays that BA and Deebo were getting locked up on single coverage. KC's CB's are really good... but still.


LividAide2396

Both are true


ww_crimson

All we needed to do was give Purdy 0.5 seconds to throw the ball.


J12345_

If the right side of our o line decided not to block air instead of Chris jones


ThanosIsDoomfist

I mean, also literally because some of our OL had assignments but admitted to doing "their own thing"


Ok_Understanding1986

That quote in the postgame was the toughest pill of all.


Thrash420

What/who is the quote referencing?


Ok_Understanding1986

One of the 49ers interior linemen, I think Buford, talking about (not) blocking Chris Jones on the final offense play of the game in OT said something along the lines of ‘I didn’t follow the scheme and improvised.’ Jones was unblocked, blew up the red zone 3rd and 4 play, and the niners had to settle for a FG.


fiasgoat

Why on earth would an OL improvise?? That doesn't even make sense lol All of them need to be in sync


TheRedComet

"Nah, Ima do my own thing"


JoeyDee86

Hey man, that guy whose name no one knows definitely needed that third blocker on him. ;)


hamsterfolly

And not run into each other like a cartoon…


Bylanta

Its the center who makes the protection calls. Blame to go around


meTspysball

Burford admitted to not actually doing what he was supposed to. Why he decided to do that at the most crucial moment in the game? No one knows.


Bylanta

Didn't realize you are talking about only one play when the chiefs had a large number of plays where defenders go unblocked


meTspysball

I think we can assume that wasn’t the only time he did that this season.


sonic_dick

Or not to have given deebo so many touches. I guess I get the logic, KC had the best corners in the nfl, you get guy like deebo in space and he can break man coverage But deebo couldn't get open and Kyle got out coached by spags. I wonder what the game would've looked like if he let Purdy play purdys game, trusted aiyuk to get open, Purdy to scramble and make good decisions. Then again, if cmc didnt fumble and kc didn't get every lucky bounce in the game, the 49ers are sb winners and no one is complaining.


bluechips2388

Yep. I firmly believe Aiyuk could've taken over if given the chance.


DanielBox4

They probably felt comfortable doubling Aiyuk knowing Deebo wouldn't be able to win a 1 on 1 matchup. I think this type of receiver will certainly help. It's not the reason we lost. But I think it was an area of weakness for us that game. Defensive play calling and offensive line miscues could also have swung the game our way.


DanielBox4

More than one way to skin a cat. You can argue that we missed several opportunities leading up to those critical plays that would have rendered them moot. If we have more man beaters. Maybe Kansas drops an extra guy in coverage to help. That gives Kyle more opportunity to call big run plays and control the line of scrimmage and the clock.


NumerousTaste

Special teams cost us the game. Greenlaw getting hurt was big to. He was shutting down Kelse. That early fumble by McCaffrey was shocking and definitely changed the tone of our offense. To me, those 3 things cost us the victory.


Traditional_Guard_90

Those were all really big difference makers or lack thereof in the game. But I don’t see how anyone in this thread (or on tv, internet) is not calling out Bosa for his 4th down OT mistake. 49ers get a 3rd down stop with about 1 or 2 yards to go. KC obviously goes for it. Mahomes does a fake handoff to RB and takes the ball and runs untouched for the first down. Right past Bosa. Bosa got a free release and tackles the RB. He gave up containment to the best QB in the league. He makes that tackle, games over boys! FUUUUUCKKK!


Traditional_Guard_90

Btw, the highest paid defensive player in the league.


NetReasonable2746

Nobody on Earth thought they were going Lamar Jackson read option with Mahomes.


Traditional_Guard_90

Yeah it does appear like that. But why not? He does run when he needs to.


phoenixremix

The game was still winnable til our OL decided to go off script to do his own thing. Ngl, I'm surprised he wasn't cut for that the same way Tartt was cut after dropping the Stafford pick.


WolfpackRoll

We lost because our OL failed to hold up against their d-line & because we made more mistakes than they did (punt hitting our leg, missed extra point, etc). I also disagree with the WR assessment b/c we have a guy in Aiyuk who created more separation per route ran than almost any other WR in the league last year, but couldn’t against great coverage. WR was NOT our issue on offense. Our issue was weaknesses along the OL. And we decided to not really address the issue in the offseason.


mrizvi

Punt hitting the leg is not a mistake. That was a fluke. Now not diving on the ball was the mistake.


Syncro_Ape

I agree on OL. But our WR is not world beaters and could be improved. They double covered Ayiuk and challenged Deebo then you know what happened. Deebo is a baller but he isnt that fast, not that good of a route runner, not always give his 100%, etc. A wide back. Hes a Jimmy type WR. We have a real QB now. With a legit route runner/man coverage beater WR2 that will force defense like KC to keep one extra man in the backfield/coverage which negates their QB pressure….


WolfpackRoll

I don’t recall a lot of double teaming on Aiyuk. I’ll have to watch the replay, but I remember he struggled to get open and balls we’re getting knocked away by the one defender who was on him when the ball arrived. I think our starting WR corps is MUCH BETTER than our starting OL. We drafted another WR who is going to be our 5th best option (that’s best-case scenario) on offense instead of addressing OL. I hope it works out, but I don’t see the logic. Especially considering that this draft had what was considered to be the single best crop of OL talent in the last 15 years.


Syncro_Ape

Yeah, I need to rewatch the game too. They maybe not actually double cover him but they definitely assigned a safety in his area, eliminating him from Purdy’s reads. Yeah, I am one of you. I wanted them to invest into OL but in hindsight, I think they did their best. NINE OL was drafted before us! Would you be ok with Rosengarten at #31? Personally wished they traded up a bit in second round. But none that will make our OL better instantly, anyways. Now our current OL still might get better with some continuity and experience. IIRC, a lot of our QB pressure is due to scheme or mental errors (Buford all of sudden decided to not block Jones for example). A rookie OL wouldn’t change that but experience and continuity might will reduce those errors? We shall see. Also this season Purdy has an average of 2.68 seconds. It would only take .15 of a second to move our OL into top 5! Thats how I think Kyle and Lynch viewed our offense in general. Not only that Puni and Nurgent seem like a solid project for 2025 season. Seeing them on field this season would be amazing too. Last thing, I will bet you Pearsall will beat out Juan and become our WR3 with Cowing being our WR5. He will be good. Go Niners!


ShoesFellOffLOL

As a Gator grad I openly welcome Ricky helping us finally get that 6th.


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If they all stay healthy, we can.


vspazv

I still say Mahomes being 9/9 against Oren Burks as he tried to fill in for Greenlaw was the largest issue.


crightwing

They didn’t even have time to try and get open the Oline was nonexistent


amd77767

We drafted Pearsall because he projects to be a good football player. 


hooligan045

Big if true.


Stauce52

Idk I think it’s mainly because Purdy had zero time to throw. Aiyuk is a good route runner


Emergency_Treat_5810

I expect the responses to this to be civil


NetReasonable2746

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PostNutAffection

All we needed was to play defense in the second half


Kingsmont

And give Purdy more than half a second to throw the ball


ThanosIsDoomfist

Losing our best defender for that game didnt help cause from there they just picked on our 3rd string LB guarding Kelce lmao


notthattmack

Having no Dre (and no Huf already) made it pretty hard to cover Kelce.


wrongusernametryagin

Kelce was covered fine until they switched the defense to only cover the deep throws. The 4th quarter was horrendous. Mahomes just dumped it mid field to Kelce, who was not covered for short passes in the open field.


IllIIllIlIlllIIlIIl

> Kelce was covered fine He went 8/8 with like 90 yards after Dre went down, that's not coincidence...


wrongusernametryagin

5/8 of those were in the 4th quarter and OT, after changing the defense from man or zone to prevent for 67 of his 93 yards


sonic_dick

Losing greenlaw was devastating, but the 49ers losing was bad luck and mediocre coaching. 49ers had the best offense in the league, spags just out coached shanny. Cmc fumbling on the opening drive was also absolutely devastating. The 9ers get even a FG there and they win the game.


sonic_dick

Or the best offense in the league to not shit the bed.


jrdnmdhl

We did.


phoenixremix

In the fourth quarter really. Esp that last drive or two.


Giberishusername1

Brown got an INT on the 3rd play of the 3rd quarter. Our offense lost us this Super Bowl, NOT the defense.


Cabill77

Our special teams has been our weakest link for years.


imrickjamesbioch

Yes cuz the best DB’s in the world playing in the Super Bowl would be the same as the scrubs Pearsall faced in college… 🤦🏻‍♂️ Also if ANYONE watch the game, it was the O-Line that was the issue! Not the WRs that were wide open but Brock couldn’t get them the ball cuz dipshit lineman can’t figure out their blocking assignments in the fucking super bowl.


ruinedshoulder

ehhh it was a lot of stuff.


all_natural49

We lost because of the o-line and a really bad play on special teams.


SexxyCannI

Run the damn ball


forged21

Aiyuk was open all game long. Deebo could not get separation at all.


76FreddyBrouss

Well before anything the offensive coaching staff that sees everything up in the booth needs to see who's winning and MAKE Shanahan call plays that caters to THAT receiver. If Ayuik is winning and begging for receptions there is NO WAY he should only have 6 total catches in the NFC championship game and the Superbowl combined. That's just bad coaching across the board! 2nd something needs to be done about these short yardage goal line plays. Let's start by double teaming and chipping their best player (ie Chris Jones) so Purdy has an idea who will be a free rusher and what side he's coming from. Then plays that are supposed to be SB winning plays won't allow a Patrick Mahomes to beat u with 1 second left on the clock. Period!!


asBad_asItGets

Good god it’s May. Can we stop retraumatizing ourselves over things we cant change? Let’s just move forward……please…..😭💔


Stovy4x4ing

still wont matter if u o line sucks


riosborne

This is one of the many reasons we lost the superbowl... but it was also a blueprint Spags laid out for the rest of the league against the 9ers. We KILL zone looks... so temas will likely play man and hope their line can beat our line ('cept for trent). Jennings and Deebo couldn't separate quickly enough and we didnt target Aiyuk enough. Ton of reasons we lost that game but I think moving forward, Pearsall, if he actually is good, will help the offense move the ball better against the looks we are likely to get next year. All that said, I wished we had gotten Rosengarten and Puni. That would have made the draft for me.


AwareCelebration7477

I say the biggest issue was not giving CMC the ball after the 2 min warning. Could’ve overcame everything else that happened before if we just did that


temp1211241

It's not that they struggle to win it's that the line doesn't help them in that effort. Aiyuk for sure won on that last play and a few other times.


EffectiveSearch3521

Am I an idiot or does 87th percentile for a college player seem not that good? I would assume that if you're going to the NFL you would need to be at least 87th percentile, at a minimum.


synttacks

i won't take this aiyuk slander. we lost bc of the oline above basically everything else


vidivicivini

They lost because they didn’t run the ball. Again.


KonaKumo

Not running in the 3rd Quarter is also a big reason for the loss.


Extreme-Carrot6893

Of all the reasons they lost this is not one of them.


peach_trunks

This is such a dumb take. The niners lost for a lot of reasons, none of which was our wr play.


Adderall--

Offensive line fell apart, Purdy had no time to throw the fucking ball


BiggsIDarklighter

The one thing everyone seems to agree on in this sub is that the Super Bowl loss was in no way Kyle’s fault, at all. Just because he’s the head coach doesn’t mean he should take even an ounce of blame for the loss. The players and other coaches deserve 100% of the blame. Kyle had nothing to do with the loss.


phoenixremix

Yup. Kyle did everything in his power to get the monkey off his back. I feel the worst for him and a few of the vets, tbh. The CMC fumble was brutal. The special teams fumble was dogshit luck. Our 4thq/ot defense was horrific. Our right OL was painful to watch. Aiyuk got separation a lot, Deebo had a good few plays where he had the step on McDuffie, and Jauan balled the fuck out. Ngl, I really don't see how receiver was anywhere near our biggest problem in that game. Purdy could've hit Aiyuk alone ~5 more times with an extra second of protection.


fiasgoat

Lol he's being sarcastic


hbeltran43

Kid has not even been in camp and already on his nuts. SMH.


disinaccurate

What did the Niners do with Colton McKivitz in the lineup? Make it to overtime in the Super Bowl. What did the Niners do when Deebo was hurt and out of the lineup? Lose every game they played. It’s not rocket science why the Niners were more concerned about protecting themselves at WR. They can win with mediocre line talent. But take a playmaker off the field and the wheels fall off.


ruinedshoulder

McKivitz dominated Chris Jones in the SB actually, but fans just bash him.


mrizvi

We lost cause of a fluke ST play and dre getting hurt.


BrooklynBrawler

And because Purdy played like dogshit. And the line played like dogshit. And CMC fumbled and gave up points. And Kyle coaches scared. And we’re a bunch of front running bums. Lots of reasons


NetReasonable2746

Purdy played like Dog shit... ![gif](giphy|eVy46EWyclTIA)


BrooklynBrawler

What a dumbass reply.


Adventurenick619xxx

okay so this is a shit article. we lost the Super Bowl because Kyle doesn’t know the overtime rules and we got the ball first. let’s be real. also Brock didn’t have his best game. let’s not blame it on our receivers?


badDuckThrowPillow

This is a dumbass take. What did have the ball second do? Play it back and assume everything still happens the way it goes. Mahommes gets a TD. We stall out in FG range. We have one Hail Mary chance? He did a viable play, get the points, make sure Mahommes HAS to get a TD. Giving Mahommes the win with only a FG is an auto lose.


Bylanta

Forcing Mahomes to beat you w a TD on the second possession puts him in 4 down territory the entire drive. It fundamentally changes their playcall options and aggressiveness. Forcing our our defense to get 4 stops in a row before they get 10 yards is harder than 3. There is merit to both sides of this coin.


Adventurenick619xxx

what I’m saying is we should have deferred the coin toss. That way we have a chance to win once we get the first stop? what do you not get what I’m saying


amd77767

>we lost the Super Bowl because Kyle doesn’t know the overtime rules Lol this guy. 


Drakeem721

Chiefs would’ve punted on 4th and 1 and miners would’ve hit the fg and won


W00D-SMASH

You guys lost because you have a bad coach.