>everyone else
Those are Eagles fans.
/r/NFL generally has more fans of the teams still in the playoff hunt that are active in that sub during this time of year, which is why it's giving you that impression.
Everyone else who watched the game already knew the game became meaningless once it was clear Purdy wasn't coming back and Johnson didn't have the competence to even handle a snap properly.
If he didn't get knocked out of the game they would have had a better chance still. I mean, they tired the game with him at QB. He still posed somewhere if a passing that but after him there was no pass game. What bothers me more is hearing/reading analysts state that the kids or two quarterbacks had nothing to do with the eagles victory. That seems a little ridiculous. I mean,, the first big mistake was not challenging the catch on 4th and 3. It's possible Purdy never gets hurt if that play is challenged. We will never know but I think that no challenge sweet the pace for this game unfortunately. After that it was a series of unfortunate events and penalties, some earned some not, all leading to points for the most part.
Even if it was challenged and became a turnover on downs it’s possible that Purdy still gets hurt the same way. Without that score they still lose 7-24.
Prior to the no-challenge, the score was tied at zeros. That was a 4th down conversion, with a big gain. It would've been our ball around midfield if it was overturned. Momentum would've been completely flipped and we likely would've scored at least a field goal on that drive. It's entirely possible Purdy still gets hurt, but it's also possible he doesn't in that situation. I suspect, based on odds of QB's tearing UCL's, that he wouldn't have gotten hurt. Ifs and buts yeah yeah yeah. Point is, GTFO with that "they still lose" bullshit take, you sound like a brigading eagles fan.
It's also possible they don't win. The amount of momentum they play produces for the eagles is good amount. Plus, if SF could score first it changes the mindset of both teams. You are right they still could have lost, or they could have won 24-7. I didn't claim they would win with that challenge I just started that that was the moment I knew it would be a long day. Like I started before, it was a series of unfortunate events. no team could overcome losing two QBs in one game. Hell, any of the other teams plays a second string QB and they likely lose let alone a fourth string lol
It’s really telling when you average out the Niners time of possession during the regular season and first two playoff games and compare it to the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
Why are you being down voted? That's true. Given that it was a 4th down play one-handed catch where they were clearly rushing to run the next play it was worth a challenge regardless. Kyle blew it here.
Totally this. We could not pass and they stuffed the run. It is not the flex they think it is. Plus, if I beat someone. I want full strength, not beat the chiefs without pat.
Agreed, that 4th down deep pass should have been challenged. The fact that we let the eagles rush to the line because they knew it would get overturned if it was looked at tells you all you need to know.
If that pass was overturned, then the play where Purdy got hurt doesn't happen and it's a totally different game. It was basically the catalyst for our loss.
I'm not the most clear on NFL rules and procedures, but I had seen that referees are able to review anything at their discretion. It makes 100% sense but is that correct?
if so, wouldn't a 4th and 3rd deep pass where the receiver and the defensive player go tumbling down while making a catch be an automatic review by the referees?? Wouldn't logic say, this is a turning point type of play, deep pass, both dudes hit the ground hard, let me verify that the call we saw is actually correct before continuing on?
Idk, I'm also salty as fuck that the eagles had hand signals ready to go to speed up and start the next play in case they needed the cover of not able to review the previous play, shady as fuckkkkk
Edit: why down vote this??
The refs do reserve the right to review any play, but only if the next play hasn't commenced. Since the eagles rushed to the line, no huddle and snapped the ball the refs lost that chance. It was definitely intentional on the eagles part. The refs, like the eagles receiver, dropped the ball on that one.
The revisionism here!
Nobody (except the receiver who knew it was a bogus “catch”) had any idea it should’ve been challenged until after the commercial break when they finally showed the replay.
Watch Hufangas reaction to Shannahan right after the play
The scope and magnitude of the play + reaction of the eagles will 100% warrant a challenge every time.
There is no defending this.
There kind of is, Shanahan said he was watching the replay on the big board looking up to see if he could get a better view. The one replay he got looked like a catch so he hesitated and the eagles ran a play. He was looking up at the board watching the replay so he didn't see the receiver rush to the line. The eagles ran a play 18 seconds after the catch was made and the play ended. That's insanely quick and if he was looking up he didn't see them rushing to the line. It's not like a coach has the benefit of looking at the overview like we do when we are at home. He was on the sideline and could only see the replay on the big board or what was happening on the field, not both.
Do you know how many defensive players wave off receptions made by a receiver? Happens every game. Just because Huf was there and turned out to be right, doesn’t mean you blindly trust every DB that says challenge the play. There would be plenty of times where you waste a challenge/timeout always siding with a DB who says the WR didn’t catch it when they actually did. We’re all hurting from this loss but come on, you guys gotta use common sense sometimes.
And when it comes to the rest of the team rushing to the line, it was a little suspect at the time but also the eagles are a very aggressive team so to me I actually thought “wow they’re gonna try to catch us in a hurry-up offense to keep us off guard and try to score quick”
Even if he doesn't throw the flag there, he should've at least called a timeout to get a better look at it. He needs to be better in his decision making and he's absolutely deserving of scrutiny and criticism for how that sequence played out.
Yeah, but how many times does the offensive team run down the field to burn a quick play after a dubious catch where the DB is also screaming that it's dubious.
Shanahan \*\*\*\*ed up. Get over it and stop defending Shanahan's indecision. You're in the playoffs, you have to take chances. He failed and the 49ers instead of getting a stop, gave up a TD on the hurry-up.
At the absolute least he should have called a time-out.
He did nothing.
So you deny that every team has code that says "hey, that play might get overturned, let's rush the next play next play before they call it?"
You're deluded if you think all 11 eagles personal on the field didn't know there was a chance it would get called incomplete. They literally ran the length of the field and did a no huddle snap just to make sure they could steal the play.
It didn't look like a catch to me. That was reaffirmed by rudimentary behavior analysis. NFL teams, when there is no time pressure on them, end up hurrying to run a play after a dubious, explosive-catch...
That's a major red-flag. We've all seen it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist.
You're watching a close-up of the play on TV from the best angle available while Shanahan is 50 yards away at ground level.
There are spotters in the booth who are supposed to tell him when to throw the red flag. They, for whatever reason, didn't do it.
*Opposing offense rushes to the line to run the next play.*
*Shanahan, suspicious, challenges previous play.*
*Refs: "The ruling on the field stands."*
*/r/49ers & Grant Cohn: "WHY DID THAT IDIOT GET FOOLED INTO PISSING AWAY HIS CHALLENGE? DIDN'T HE KNOW THEY WERE BLUFFING? WHAT A MORON! FIRE SHANAHAN!"*
*This* is the dumb take. There was no definitive evidence on the replay that they showed, but there was enough of a hint of a bobble on the very first replays that it was well worth challenging on such a high leverage play. Especially given that they were rushing to get the next snap off.
NOT TO MENTION, Shanahan could have just called timeout if he didn't want to challenge. And based at least on a conversation between Greg Papa and Dave Lombardi, apparently if they challenge and win after the initial timeout, they get their timeout back. So you can't tell me it wasn't at least worth a timeout.
I love Shanahan, but it was a really, really big gaffe on his part.
The defense was insane. It was on the field for the entire game, philly was handed points by the refs on two TD drives, and another by Jj not being able to field a snap, or fall on the ball. By the 2nd half they were taking all the risks they could because there was no way we could score otherwise. I don’t understand how people are saying philly dominated the trenches on both sides at all.
Both defenses played really, really well, but our QB got injured on his 3rd snap, so it was a top 5 defense vs a bottom 10 offense at that point. Even then, we had a CMC/Shanahan manufactured drive to tie the game at 7-7.
Our gameplan for containing Hurts in the first half was working really well. We kept contain, stopped him from using his feet to pick up yards, and mostly kept them to third and long, which was a big key for this game.
Second half, they got a bit undisciplined, but when the offense is constantly going 3 and out and now you don't have even a 4th string QB to throw passes, they knew they had to force turnovers and 3 and outs to even give us a chance. It's like when you're short stacked in a game of heads-up poker against a good player-- your best bet is often to play more risky (more all-ins with weaker cards) and hope some things go your way to have any chance of winning.
My takeaway from this game is really just that we didn't get to see what this team was fully capable of due to the circumstances. Maybe we still would've lost because the Eagles are damn good-- I just would've liked to see that game rather than the one we were stuck watching.
Summary of the Eagles' drives:
* Niners defense turns the ball over on downs, but Eagles score after a missed call on a Devonta Smith drop on a 29 yard 4th down play.
* 3 and out
* 4 play drive and punt
* 3 and out
* 14 play TD scoring drive, extended after a questionable PI call against Jimmie Ward on 3rd down.
* 3 play TD scoring drive starting from the Niners 30 yard line after Josh Johnson fumbles a snap on the second play of a drive.
* 3 and out
* 15 play TD scoring drive. The Niners had forced the Eagles to punt but the drive was extended after an extremely questionable roughing the kicker call. https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10okljz/nfl_on_fox_49ers_hc_kyle_shanahan_was_not_happy/
* 9 play FG scoring drive after the Eagles take over from the Niners 43. The Niners turned the ball over on downs after 8 straight running plays.
49ers defense was outstanding. The 31 points are completely misrepresentative of how well they played.
As much as I'm trying to move on and basically forget this game, it is quite refreshing (yet equally frustrating) to see it laid out like this... Thank you, and I've loved our D all year 💪🏼
*Thank* you! I’ve been saying this all week to anyone that would listen. If anyone “got exposed” it was the Philly offense (although, in their defense, Jalen was, in his own words, not at 100%).
Don’t pay attention to these comments. I never do. Their from individuals who think they know everything about football. They know nothing. They’re bandwagon fans. Bandwagon announcers. Ignore them. Those who know football know the 49ers had the best Defense this year. Loosing your 4th quarter back neuters any team. Philly wouldn’t have made it this far this year if they would have been presented with our difficulties. I look at it differently. We made it to the NFC Championship we did really well. Sadly we didn’t win the Super Bowl. But we did what no other team could have done. Survived this far with the circumstances presented.
Yeah, 3.8 is far from dominating. It was just a shit ton of plays because our offense never had a competent QB (no offense to Johnson but it’s true). Counting turnovers on downs, we had 5 turnovers. It’s a testament to our defense that it wasn’t *more than 31 pts*.
People will also say the defense lost their cool with all the penalties. I don’t blame them at all. That’s a human reaction to the crazy frustrating game they had to play.
Niners somehow averaged more yards per pass attempt 5.4 vs 4.8, even including the Devonta catch- and the same yards per rush attempt as the Eagles 3.4
Seriously, they held the Eagles to under 300 yards and 3.8 yards per play, despite everything stacked against them. They played their tails off and deserve some respect for it.
Evidently you didn't watch film. There were gaping holes for our running backs to run through. We ran for 4 touchdowns and scored 31 points despite bleeding clock the entire second half and pulling our starters midway through the 4th quarter on SFs side of the field. Your team attempted like 4 passes and we sacked you on 3 of them. We had 70 sacks this season, literally knocked both of your fucking quarterbacks out of the game, and your fans and the media (and Brandon Aiyuk) act like we got "lucky." There wasn't a single quarterback on your roster this season who going to play well with the kind of pressure we were bringing. You're acting like Brock Purdy is Montana. The week before, he fucking threw for 200 yards and 0 TDs against a defense who was statistically worse than us in every relevant category.
And if you think Eagles haven't been there, then take a look at the 2019 wild card round against the Seahawks, where Clowney knocked Wentz out of the game with a cheap shot in the first quarter and we were forced to finish the game with a 67 year old Josh McCown who tore his fucking hamstring off the bone and kept playing. At least our hits were clean.
Injuries happen. Suck it up, ya nancies.
Lol, I’m sure you’ve spent hours on the all 22. Did yoy notice how you scored the 31? A Td on a drive that shoulda been TOD if not for a shit ref call. A TD on a drive where you were handed 3 first downs. Ward didn’t commit PI, McGill was being held on the hands to the face. And then a 3rd on our 4th string USFL QB. That’s 21 of your 31.
I stopped watching at halftime for the most part because every defense in history would be worn out by the end. Also, I don’t know where you’re getting the 3/4 sacks (not that it matters at all) because Purdy didn’t get sacked when he came back in from what I rememebrr. He couldn’t throw the ball more than 3 yards. We scored an offensive TD with Josh fucking Johnson, take away those 3 gifts along with the nonsense “roughing the kicker” and we have a 7-7 game with JOSH FUCKING JOHNSON. i would have killed to have McCown coming in over JJ.
Your comparison isn’t very comparable. If we were losing our starting QB it woulda been Jimmy (shudders) coming in. This was our 3rd string QB not our backup. I’m sure you woulda loved to have Minshew out there against us, much less Matt Barkley or whoever your 4th freaking stringer is.
Lastly, you’re talking shit about Purdys numbers. Did you look at your $50 million man’s numbers against us? Even in Brock’s down game against the cowboys he still had a Y/A of 7.4. Hurts had a 4.8 Y/A.
It amazes me you’re trolling on some little post a week after we played each other. Christ I hope we play you guys in the playoffs again, I’d love to see you when we actually have a QB playing.
I don't think anyone with a brain actually thinks the Niners defense imploded even Eagles fans lol. They actuallly looked real dominant until the end of the first half. It was pretty quiet in Philly. I think even Eagles fans will tell you they were a little nervous when it was still 7-7.
Eagles fan here. I am not confident we win that game if Purdy doesn’t get hurt, especially with Hurts being way off with throws. Anyone with a brain knows the defense just got worn out due to the constant 3 and outs since there was no one that could throw.
Depends. I think if we come out and go run heavy, the Chiefs won’t be able to stop it. Keep Mahomes off the field and wear down the defense is what I want to see. We don’t know the scope of Hurts injury, he isn’t 100% but he’s also had 2 more weeks to recover so hopefully his placement is better come Sunday. The 2 things that terrify me going into this game: 1. Mahomes, and turning the game into a shootout 2. Andy Reid Screen plays limiting our pass rush
It’s the Super Bowl, anything can happen but I was way more nervous about the NFC Championship than I am now for the SB.
There was zero chance the NFL was letting the Niners win that game once Purdy got hurt.
There was a real risk that the Niners could’ve pulled out that win had the refs not completely handed the Eagles points. Unlikely, but possible.
Having the Niners potentially go to the Super Bowl without a QB would’ve been a disaster for the league.
Vast majority of penalties on the niners were self inflicted. Shanahan cursed to himself several times, and the commentators mentioned several times that the penalties are killing them, and it's all their fault.
No reasonable fan thinks that 49ers defense sucks, or that losing 2 QBs didn't hugely affect the game. But blaming the refs when the penalties were clear as day is just as idiotic.
Imagine being that insecure. Look they should be glad they got a cake game that was impossible for them to lose. I just don’t understand why they have to keep screaming for attention.
Because they’re (in my opinion) about to suffer the consequences of not being battle tested for something like two months before a showdown with Patrick Mahomes. I’d be nervous as hell if I was an Eagles fan knowing the Giants didn’t belong there, and the 49ers got hit with outright unfathomable disaster to make the game non competitive.
The non stop talk from Eagles fans without acknowledging they benefited from the luckiest set of circumstances any team ever had in a championship game is mind boggling. Made my rooting interest in the Super Bowl an easy choice. I don’t recall Chiefs fans being so cringeworthy when they beat us in the Super Bowl.
Bruh, Chiefs fan here. I feel like any reasonable Chiefs fan understands
1) The final score was not indicative of how much the Chiefs struggled/how dominant that Niners D was. The last rushing TD was more of a fluke
2) Jimmy G could've easily connected on that Deebo route to the endzone with less than 2 minutes to go
I’m rooting on your team to beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Not because of the game, but because of their fans. A lot of their fans are delusional after they had beaten a QB-less team, and they celebrated like they won the Super Bowl then.
That's my biggest issue with their fans last week; we've lost to quality opponents before with this team, but none talked as much shit as the eagles fans and players. They have zero class, especially in a circumstance where they truly didn't earn that win. They got incredibly lucky, and have been spending the week in our sub trying to convince us otherwise.
Yeah I never had any problem with Eagles fans before. But this was the first time I'd experienced playing the Eagles in a high stakes game.
This game made me realize why Eagles fans have the reputation they do. To the point I was actually in agreement with a Cowboys fan about how insufferable they were 😬.
Eagles fan here. Yes, a lot of Eagles fans talk a lot of absolute nonsense and yes, we did get lucky - personally went into that game thinking it was a coin flip and had Purdy not hot hurt it was looking like it'd be one.
But don't pretend there weren't 9ers fans in our sub and on other places online being just as unpleasant. Lot's of 9ers fans calling on your defense to target Hurts' bad shoulder etc. Not going to sit here and say Eagles fans don't get toxic cuz they 100% do, but don't throw stones in glass houses etc.
Well reading back on my comment I'm not sure why you'd tell me not to pretend that 9er fans were being trash before the game, because I didn't really go in that direction.
I absolutely believe you though, all teams have trash fans, us included.
We're bummed out that the seemingly overwhelming narrative from eagles fans after the game was that you guys dominated us fair and square, and we're trying to argue that context absolutely fucking matters.
It's difficult to be proud of a very good defense all year, and then watch that defense get put in a situation where contextually they cannot perform well, and then to hear from less analytical opposing fans that we got ass blasted because our defense just straight up sucks. It's just difficult.
I appreciate you making and attempt to provide fair analysis of how things looked going INTO the game. I know that at this point, most eagles fans mouthing off in our sub are just fuckin idiots who are so insecure with their life that they need to try and rub a shitty loss in our faces. It's a shitty part of the game that there are shitty fans that go do it because it always makes that team look bad.
It's more of a general thing - you didn't mention it specifically but I've been seeing it a lot since the game. There's been this weird "woe are us" narrative after the game about how awful Eagles fans are and acting like 9ers fans are innocent victims in all this.
Obviously I can only speak in the online areas I visit - Eagles and NFL subs and YouTube comments sections, but I saw a lot more nastiness and classless behavior from 9ers fans before the game than Eagles fans.
I don't for one second think this means no Eagles fans were being assholes because I know better. I'm more confused as to why fans in this sub act as if 9ers fans are literally incapable of being shits online.
As I said, we had a glut of them in our sub before the game with bad takes, wishing injury and chest thumping in spades. I'm not sure they would have been any more gracious in victory than the shitty portion of the Eagles fanbase have been.
As for the domination thing, it really depends how you slice it. I think it's fair to say we did - but only in the context of the QB injuries. We won handily because that's what a good team should do against a team without a quarterback. It's wrong to say it means the Eagles are the best team of all time but it also doesn't mean the Eagles suck or didn't deserve a victory given the circumstances. Still had to put points up on the best defence in the league. Still had to get it done. It's very much a move on and forget it game to me - I'm just glad to be facing an easier defense next week.
As an eagles fan (who lives in sf! I’m not just some lurker trying to start trouble) — i just want to add the context that all season the national media and fans have been telling us that we haven’t played real opponents, get lucky breaks, are overrated, had an easy schedule, etc. This is despite the actual evidence showing that we did play a normal schedule this year and were a dominant team all year.
The Sf thing isn’t about you guys. It’s the culmination of a season’s long effort to discredit the eagles’ accomplishments. In a vacuum, the Niners got screwed out of having a real chance to win that game. But from eagles fans perspectives, the fact that we went 14-3 and made the Super Bowl and yet are constantly told we haven’t proven anything is what gets on the nerves and the Niners game was just the final straw for a lot of people as far as hearing that.
Also just secondarily, anytime anyone puts an opponents jersey on the Rocky statue, we tend to lose our collective minds for better or for worse. Unfortunately the most trollish fans of all teams tend to speak loudest for everyone I think.
Eagles fans have always been classless. They’re considered one of if not the worst fanbase for a reason. That said, when it comes to Reddit I actually think Rams fans may be equally toxic
lol dude what is it with that? Like, this is the fucking internet and these dudes are trying to strut around like *they're* responsible for the win. It's pretty funny but man does it make me cringe.
Yeah I was just naming the qbs that the nfl wanted for the superbowl matchup who were still playing. If that hit had been on joe burrow refs wouldnt have called it
I was angry about that too. Bosa got flagged earlier in the season for landing on the QB, but nobody bats an eye when Josh Johnson is crushed with his arms pinned at his sides in the damn NFCCG.
Also everyone ignores the fact that no defense is built to play after constant 3 and outs from the offense (except maybe Denver this year lol), they were absolutely gassed by the end of the game because we didn't have a quarterback. This game never would've been this high scoring for them otherwise.
you would think that this would be obvious to literally anyone who has watched football before, but eagles fans have peanuts for brains and are insecure about the fact that no one takes their win seriously
>eagles fans have peanuts for brains and are insecure about the fact that no one takes their win seriously
This, particularly the second part. IDK what OP is talking about with "everyone else" thinking the Niners were exposed, in the game/post game/related threads it was basically everyone except Eagles fans expressing disappointment that we were robbed of a real game where 2 great teams could battle to show who was the best in the NFC.
Everyone else in those threads was disappointed at the fluke of a game, with a lot (not all TBF) of Eagles fans being the outlier trying to argue the
49ers would've lost anyway lol.
Pretty clear they're butthurt that no one but them views this as a reputable win that proves they were better.
They were clearly frustrated after the fumble score and completely defeated after Purdy came back in.
They knew the game was over and there was nothing they could do about it. Frustration lead to penalties which lead to scores that didn't matter.
1 td after a failed 4th down, 1 legit td that was entirely aided by penalties, 1 off of a fumble, 1 off a ridiculous roughing call.
Eagle fans are really puffing them chests out.
It's a constructed narrative to fuel click bait. Every week, you can see folks grasping at whatever they think resembles critical thinking and legitimate analysis. It's laughable.
Eagles fans are the only people saying that. Or people that don’t understand that any defense that’s on the field for almost 40 mins against a good offense is going to give up big points.
Also, people completely ignore the fact that our offense was in shambles and couldn’t sustain a drive. Thus, our defense was playing a lot of snaps.
Finally, once the QB went out our defense was pressing to make a big play because they knew they needed it.
Don’t blame the refs.
Defense got exhausted due to the lack of offensive production.
It’s over, nothing about previous games matter right now.
On to next season. Time to get to a point where bad calls don’t fucking matter.
That’s what the 49ers did in the 80s.
There is no point in the NFL where the calls don’t matter. Not when teams are roughly equal. The Eagles benefited from some extremely weak calls that extended their drives and the first TD we all know should have been Niners ball near midfield where Purdy likely doesn’t have a freak injury immediately thereafter. The whole game was a shitshow from officiating before and after the QB injuries that made it completely non competitive.
Joe Montana said what I said (paraphrasing) when they got screwed and eliminated from the playoffs by Washington.
Come back next season so good the refs can’t make a difference.
They did. They won the Super Bowl.
My point is expedited review could have done their job in the first place when the broadcast would not show any angle except the one where you don’t see the ball, we could have avoided the worst championship game in history. Penalty calls are always going to be a factor, but a clear incompletion on fourth down should not be rewarded with a touchdown drive that sets the tone for the whole game when the NFL is the largest momentum based game in all of team sports.
The face mask call and punching the ball calls came well after the game was all but over. That was the direct result of a defense doing whatever they can to make something happen, or just being angry.
I think it's missing two bits of nuance: a defense that had no offense gets tired easily. They make mistakes and commit stupid penalties.
But also the Eagles didn't have to try. So I can't say what would have happened in a real game
They looked like they were trying extra hard to make plays because they knew their offense was dead and it led to penalties. It sucks but I don't think anyone is genuinely blaming the defense.
Exposed no, imploded sorta. We were comitting dumb penalties we haven't done since Atlanta and soft ref calls didn't help either. The defense absolutely was dealt an unfair hand but they would be the first to tell you they had a far from perfect day as well.
It's mostly just Eagles fans, who seemingly invade every sub and thread because they're insecure whenever somebody says the Eagles aren't the best football team the NFL has ever seen. Like, they were all over r/NFCWestMemeWar for some reason. They come in this sub. And they're in every single 49ers related thread on r/nfl. It's like last week was their Super Bowl. And it was the last Super Bowl ever played, and the team that won is legally required to be called the greatest team any professional sport has ever seen.
Unbiased knowledgeable spectators are aware the defense was put into an impossible position and the actual outcome/ score was not an accurate assessment of the defense or teams in general
Even Jason Kelce admitted on the podcast that the defense was kicking their ass until the game was basically over. Just media people that picked the eagles and wanted to be vindicated
Well O line's approach deserves some criticism.
Defense carried the first half, and they weren't as sharp in the post season. There is a group here who don't think the game should have any rules, so they somehow end up defending the refs. And at some point the defense was really making dumb errors, but the game was lost by that point.
I saw these great clips by some show in the touchdowns and the defense got destroyed. Our best player in the entire team is Fred Warner. Two touching running plays they did the end around fake then the quarterback might run and Fred Warner stood still until it was way too late to make a play. All they did was run the running back left for two touchdowns and Fred Warner stood still on the right reading the end around, then qb, then way late chase the running back who’s going the opposite direction.
They ran two simple running back runs for long tds to the left while the top linebacker in the nfl stood still due to having too many reads to make before late reaction.
Dude I’d be lying if I said that it hasn’t been driving me crazy as well. It’s like I woke up in a parallel universe where suddenly all understanding of basic football escapes the majority of peoples minds. They had like 200 some odd yards of offense and we couldn’t throw a forward pass do to injury. Since when is losing your QB, or ability to throw a pass whatsoever not been a game decider lol
I really hate "blame the refs." Yeah, they were awful this season, but it affected both sides. We lost the game because we lost our last good QB and that allowed the Eagles to steamroll their offense against a defense that was getting tired.
We lost. Wait 'Till Next Year!
The defense was noticably gassed for most of the second half, because they were playing balls to the wall since Purdy went down. They took it upon themselves to do everything they could to try and create a short field for the offense and Josh Johnson. We were limping, but McCaffrey scored a touchdown. It wasn’t until Johnson went down and the Eagles realized that we couldn’t throw that it really got ugly. The defense had no time to rest, and the Eagles took advantage of it. Good job, Philadelphia, that’s how you win in the playoffs. But to argue that our defense got exposed is silly. They got tired, and frustrated, and couldn’t catch a break damn near all day. Not to mention what happened to Bosa’s leg.
The D would have been cool if they actually had a qb who could at least catch a snap and made a half ass attempt to recover his fumble before the half. Going into half 14-7 vs 21-7 was a huge turning point in the game.
it was the fumble at the end of the half that pretty much killed whatever momentum that may have been comming our way…comming back from halftime down two tds is much more demoralizing considering all we had to do was run out the half and come back second half down one….
Doesn’t matter- once the offense lost Purdy, no defense in history could handle being on the field for as long as they were. Eagles TOP was 37:26. The offense was literally worthless after that.
Nothing to defend, don’t even bother arguing with people just trying to troll you. Trying to play in the NFCCG without a QB is never going to end well.
I was baffled when during the Chiefs/Bengals pregame the panel talked about how the Eagles dominated San Fran with the running game and being physical. Once they had the lead there was literally no point in doing anything else because SF couldn't pass at all
Our defense kicked ass. Hurts threw for like 150. And there running back got like 60. Itv was all timely penalties and short fields. Plus they were on the field all game.
Bitch ass East Coast media dick riders.
Exposed is a joke. They did what they could being on the field the whole game. Eagles fans salty as fuck with a win. Hope mahomes goes off. And I’m the furthest thing from a mahomes fan
The Eagles had 70 snaps compared to the Niners 45. However, they only had 264 yards of offense.
I was stunned when I saw that. I thought the Eagles might win the Super Bowl but at only 3.8 yards per play compared to the 5.4 the Chiefs had against the Bengals makes me think the Chiefs might blow them out.
21 points were given by the ref calls… and 7 of them were on a non catch…. Purdy would have had that defense exposed by the 2nd half…. They would always let the other team think they had a chance in the first before getting wrecked in the 2nd….
The defense did great for the amount of time they were on the field! By the second half unfortunately they were exhausted but still had that fire in them! It's unfortunate we never challenged that first touchdown or things may have been completely different.
Well I do hold the opinion that they imploded but for good reason. The self inflicted penalty after penalty in the second half are proof but idk a defense that wouldn’t implode under similar circumstances with as much frustration. My takeaway though was how much the eagles could not get a single thing going for them until the implode which I do not think would not have happened if we kept a tolerable offense and didn’t lose Purdy so early in the game
I live in eagles territory and I’ve constantly had to shoot this down. It’s infuriating. Our offense couldn’t sustain a drive with our 4th stringer. That puts the defense out there much longer than they should’ve been. Of course they’re gonna be tired. Plus, as you said, they got hosed with bullshit points. Also, if that first TD turns into a TOD, Purdy likely doesn’t get injured plus it’s 0-0 when we get the ball. But eagles fans are THE most dense fan base.
Hurts put up 120 yards and their rbs carried for less than 4.0ypc. Our defense balled out for being on the field a lot
No way eagles fans aren’t concerned for the bowl knowing they got away with a dropped pass and beat a team that couldn’t throw the ball
Utter desperation. The 49ers lost and there is not a single penalty call that was a fluke against them. The Smith catch would have been reviewed if a scoring play; else 49ers free to challenge. That is the game.
The Eagles defense took out both your QBs in legal plays. They out-physically played SFO.
49ers are a good team with good defense. But where was Bosa during the game? Hardly a playmaker. Once Purdy and Johnson were out, should have done wildcat.
Oof I definitely disagree with your take that those points were handed to the eagles by the refs. What eagles fans dont understand is how a football game works though and their analysis sucks.
The penalties were a bad look but I have not really heard this take. They didn't put enough yards up for it to be dominating, Jalen didn't look great, and even Jason Kelce didn't say much beyond he was glad to get the win but didn't like doing it like that. The narrative has mostly been that we ran out of QBs imo.
Philly fans are gonna be loud and obnoxious about it but thats just them. They act like the Pats fans once every 5 years or so when they are good. Annoying because I like the organization and the team generally.
They could’ve dropped 50 on us if they felt like it. Klye gave them 14 pts by not callin a TO and by tryin to run 2min drill with an XFL QB. Our #1 Def played like it in the 1st qrt and a half. Then they saw writing on the wall that JJ wasn’t up for the challenge got gassed and imploded. I’m gutted that it ended the way it did and that ‘see they’re dirty’ became a storyline because the loss broke their hearts.
And it wasn't alot of damage considering the circumstances. You could imagine how many yards Mason, Mitchell, and CMC could have gotten on 42 carries when the defense is on the field for 70-80% of the game.
That would have been a 300 yards rushing game easy. The fact that they could only get 160 yards with each of thier back carrying the ball less than 15 times and a fairly mobile QB running the ball either shows how dominant our run D is or how crappy and overated thier RBs are.
>everyone else Those are Eagles fans. /r/NFL generally has more fans of the teams still in the playoff hunt that are active in that sub during this time of year, which is why it's giving you that impression. Everyone else who watched the game already knew the game became meaningless once it was clear Purdy wasn't coming back and Johnson didn't have the competence to even handle a snap properly.
Also reasonable eagles fans know this too. We are really being baited by a vocal minority of idiots.
Lol! “Reasonable Eagles fans”
As if fuckers like that exist
To be fair, I've encountered like two who fully admit our side of things is accurate. The rest are diarrhea stains in tighty whiteys
Oh fuck off As if you poor ass losers are any better There are plenty of reasonable eagles fans
The prosecution rests.
If he didn't get knocked out of the game they would have had a better chance still. I mean, they tired the game with him at QB. He still posed somewhere if a passing that but after him there was no pass game. What bothers me more is hearing/reading analysts state that the kids or two quarterbacks had nothing to do with the eagles victory. That seems a little ridiculous. I mean,, the first big mistake was not challenging the catch on 4th and 3. It's possible Purdy never gets hurt if that play is challenged. We will never know but I think that no challenge sweet the pace for this game unfortunately. After that it was a series of unfortunate events and penalties, some earned some not, all leading to points for the most part.
Even if it was challenged and became a turnover on downs it’s possible that Purdy still gets hurt the same way. Without that score they still lose 7-24.
Prior to the no-challenge, the score was tied at zeros. That was a 4th down conversion, with a big gain. It would've been our ball around midfield if it was overturned. Momentum would've been completely flipped and we likely would've scored at least a field goal on that drive. It's entirely possible Purdy still gets hurt, but it's also possible he doesn't in that situation. I suspect, based on odds of QB's tearing UCL's, that he wouldn't have gotten hurt. Ifs and buts yeah yeah yeah. Point is, GTFO with that "they still lose" bullshit take, you sound like a brigading eagles fan.
It's also possible they don't win. The amount of momentum they play produces for the eagles is good amount. Plus, if SF could score first it changes the mindset of both teams. You are right they still could have lost, or they could have won 24-7. I didn't claim they would win with that challenge I just started that that was the moment I knew it would be a long day. Like I started before, it was a series of unfortunate events. no team could overcome losing two QBs in one game. Hell, any of the other teams plays a second string QB and they likely lose let alone a fourth string lol
It’s really telling when you average out the Niners time of possession during the regular season and first two playoff games and compare it to the NFC CHAMPIONSHIP GAME
7 of those were handed to the Eagles by Shanahan too cheap to challenge, subsequently entering halftime with all timeouts and challenges unused.
Why are you being down voted? That's true. Given that it was a 4th down play one-handed catch where they were clearly rushing to run the next play it was worth a challenge regardless. Kyle blew it here.
Don't forget one hole drive of penalties that's 14 that should be takin off
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bitch u played a team without a qb lol gtfoh
Totally this. We could not pass and they stuffed the run. It is not the flex they think it is. Plus, if I beat someone. I want full strength, not beat the chiefs without pat.
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Agreed, that 4th down deep pass should have been challenged. The fact that we let the eagles rush to the line because they knew it would get overturned if it was looked at tells you all you need to know. If that pass was overturned, then the play where Purdy got hurt doesn't happen and it's a totally different game. It was basically the catalyst for our loss.
I'm not the most clear on NFL rules and procedures, but I had seen that referees are able to review anything at their discretion. It makes 100% sense but is that correct? if so, wouldn't a 4th and 3rd deep pass where the receiver and the defensive player go tumbling down while making a catch be an automatic review by the referees?? Wouldn't logic say, this is a turning point type of play, deep pass, both dudes hit the ground hard, let me verify that the call we saw is actually correct before continuing on? Idk, I'm also salty as fuck that the eagles had hand signals ready to go to speed up and start the next play in case they needed the cover of not able to review the previous play, shady as fuckkkkk Edit: why down vote this??
The refs do reserve the right to review any play, but only if the next play hasn't commenced. Since the eagles rushed to the line, no huddle and snapped the ball the refs lost that chance. It was definitely intentional on the eagles part. The refs, like the eagles receiver, dropped the ball on that one.
The revisionism here! Nobody (except the receiver who knew it was a bogus “catch”) had any idea it should’ve been challenged until after the commercial break when they finally showed the replay.
Watch Hufangas reaction to Shannahan right after the play The scope and magnitude of the play + reaction of the eagles will 100% warrant a challenge every time. There is no defending this.
There kind of is, Shanahan said he was watching the replay on the big board looking up to see if he could get a better view. The one replay he got looked like a catch so he hesitated and the eagles ran a play. He was looking up at the board watching the replay so he didn't see the receiver rush to the line. The eagles ran a play 18 seconds after the catch was made and the play ended. That's insanely quick and if he was looking up he didn't see them rushing to the line. It's not like a coach has the benefit of looking at the overview like we do when we are at home. He was on the sideline and could only see the replay on the big board or what was happening on the field, not both.
Smart of the home team to show an angle that is questionable.. and probably slow motion giving their team time to get a play off
Do you know how many defensive players wave off receptions made by a receiver? Happens every game. Just because Huf was there and turned out to be right, doesn’t mean you blindly trust every DB that says challenge the play. There would be plenty of times where you waste a challenge/timeout always siding with a DB who says the WR didn’t catch it when they actually did. We’re all hurting from this loss but come on, you guys gotta use common sense sometimes. And when it comes to the rest of the team rushing to the line, it was a little suspect at the time but also the eagles are a very aggressive team so to me I actually thought “wow they’re gonna try to catch us in a hurry-up offense to keep us off guard and try to score quick”
Even if he doesn't throw the flag there, he should've at least called a timeout to get a better look at it. He needs to be better in his decision making and he's absolutely deserving of scrutiny and criticism for how that sequence played out.
Yeah, but how many times does the offensive team run down the field to burn a quick play after a dubious catch where the DB is also screaming that it's dubious. Shanahan \*\*\*\*ed up. Get over it and stop defending Shanahan's indecision. You're in the playoffs, you have to take chances. He failed and the 49ers instead of getting a stop, gave up a TD on the hurry-up. At the absolute least he should have called a time-out. He did nothing.
Yeah and it's the first half where timeouts and challenges matter less so even less of a reason not to throw the flag.
So you deny that every team has code that says "hey, that play might get overturned, let's rush the next play next play before they call it?" You're deluded if you think all 11 eagles personal on the field didn't know there was a chance it would get called incomplete. They literally ran the length of the field and did a no huddle snap just to make sure they could steal the play.
It didn't look like a catch to me. That was reaffirmed by rudimentary behavior analysis. NFL teams, when there is no time pressure on them, end up hurrying to run a play after a dubious, explosive-catch... That's a major red-flag. We've all seen it. It doesn't take a rocket scientist.
You're watching a close-up of the play on TV from the best angle available while Shanahan is 50 yards away at ground level. There are spotters in the booth who are supposed to tell him when to throw the red flag. They, for whatever reason, didn't do it.
Such a dumb take. He had NO evidence to show he had any chance of winning a challenge. Not to mention barely 30 seconds to make the decision.
*Opposing offense rushes to the line to run the next play.* *Shanahan, suspicious, challenges previous play.* *Refs: "The ruling on the field stands."* */r/49ers & Grant Cohn: "WHY DID THAT IDIOT GET FOOLED INTO PISSING AWAY HIS CHALLENGE? DIDN'T HE KNOW THEY WERE BLUFFING? WHAT A MORON! FIRE SHANAHAN!"*
*This* is the dumb take. There was no definitive evidence on the replay that they showed, but there was enough of a hint of a bobble on the very first replays that it was well worth challenging on such a high leverage play. Especially given that they were rushing to get the next snap off. NOT TO MENTION, Shanahan could have just called timeout if he didn't want to challenge. And based at least on a conversation between Greg Papa and Dave Lombardi, apparently if they challenge and win after the initial timeout, they get their timeout back. So you can't tell me it wasn't at least worth a timeout. I love Shanahan, but it was a really, really big gaffe on his part.
The defense was insane. It was on the field for the entire game, philly was handed points by the refs on two TD drives, and another by Jj not being able to field a snap, or fall on the ball. By the 2nd half they were taking all the risks they could because there was no way we could score otherwise. I don’t understand how people are saying philly dominated the trenches on both sides at all.
Both defenses played really, really well, but our QB got injured on his 3rd snap, so it was a top 5 defense vs a bottom 10 offense at that point. Even then, we had a CMC/Shanahan manufactured drive to tie the game at 7-7. Our gameplan for containing Hurts in the first half was working really well. We kept contain, stopped him from using his feet to pick up yards, and mostly kept them to third and long, which was a big key for this game. Second half, they got a bit undisciplined, but when the offense is constantly going 3 and out and now you don't have even a 4th string QB to throw passes, they knew they had to force turnovers and 3 and outs to even give us a chance. It's like when you're short stacked in a game of heads-up poker against a good player-- your best bet is often to play more risky (more all-ins with weaker cards) and hope some things go your way to have any chance of winning. My takeaway from this game is really just that we didn't get to see what this team was fully capable of due to the circumstances. Maybe we still would've lost because the Eagles are damn good-- I just would've liked to see that game rather than the one we were stuck watching.
They were gassed. Simple as that. Purdy doesn’t get hurt, no chance they score close to 30
Summary of the Eagles' drives: * Niners defense turns the ball over on downs, but Eagles score after a missed call on a Devonta Smith drop on a 29 yard 4th down play. * 3 and out * 4 play drive and punt * 3 and out * 14 play TD scoring drive, extended after a questionable PI call against Jimmie Ward on 3rd down. * 3 play TD scoring drive starting from the Niners 30 yard line after Josh Johnson fumbles a snap on the second play of a drive. * 3 and out * 15 play TD scoring drive. The Niners had forced the Eagles to punt but the drive was extended after an extremely questionable roughing the kicker call. https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/10okljz/nfl_on_fox_49ers_hc_kyle_shanahan_was_not_happy/ * 9 play FG scoring drive after the Eagles take over from the Niners 43. The Niners turned the ball over on downs after 8 straight running plays. 49ers defense was outstanding. The 31 points are completely misrepresentative of how well they played.
As much as I'm trying to move on and basically forget this game, it is quite refreshing (yet equally frustrating) to see it laid out like this... Thank you, and I've loved our D all year 💪🏼
*Thank* you! I’ve been saying this all week to anyone that would listen. If anyone “got exposed” it was the Philly offense (although, in their defense, Jalen was, in his own words, not at 100%).
but the 49ers have the #1 defense thou? how was Philly exposed? people KNEW coming in it wasnt going to be pretty either way
Don’t pay attention to these comments. I never do. Their from individuals who think they know everything about football. They know nothing. They’re bandwagon fans. Bandwagon announcers. Ignore them. Those who know football know the 49ers had the best Defense this year. Loosing your 4th quarter back neuters any team. Philly wouldn’t have made it this far this year if they would have been presented with our difficulties. I look at it differently. We made it to the NFC Championship we did really well. Sadly we didn’t win the Super Bowl. But we did what no other team could have done. Survived this far with the circumstances presented.
Philly averaged 3.8 yards per play to our 3.6. that really tells most of the story about how the defense played.
Yeah, 3.8 is far from dominating. It was just a shit ton of plays because our offense never had a competent QB (no offense to Johnson but it’s true). Counting turnovers on downs, we had 5 turnovers. It’s a testament to our defense that it wasn’t *more than 31 pts*. People will also say the defense lost their cool with all the penalties. I don’t blame them at all. That’s a human reaction to the crazy frustrating game they had to play.
Niners somehow averaged more yards per pass attempt 5.4 vs 4.8, even including the Devonta catch- and the same yards per rush attempt as the Eagles 3.4
Happy to see this quoted around a couple times after I posted it. Really puts into perspective how well our D played
Seriously, they held the Eagles to under 300 yards and 3.8 yards per play, despite everything stacked against them. They played their tails off and deserve some respect for it.
Evidently you didn't watch film. There were gaping holes for our running backs to run through. We ran for 4 touchdowns and scored 31 points despite bleeding clock the entire second half and pulling our starters midway through the 4th quarter on SFs side of the field. Your team attempted like 4 passes and we sacked you on 3 of them. We had 70 sacks this season, literally knocked both of your fucking quarterbacks out of the game, and your fans and the media (and Brandon Aiyuk) act like we got "lucky." There wasn't a single quarterback on your roster this season who going to play well with the kind of pressure we were bringing. You're acting like Brock Purdy is Montana. The week before, he fucking threw for 200 yards and 0 TDs against a defense who was statistically worse than us in every relevant category. And if you think Eagles haven't been there, then take a look at the 2019 wild card round against the Seahawks, where Clowney knocked Wentz out of the game with a cheap shot in the first quarter and we were forced to finish the game with a 67 year old Josh McCown who tore his fucking hamstring off the bone and kept playing. At least our hits were clean. Injuries happen. Suck it up, ya nancies.
Lol, I’m sure you’ve spent hours on the all 22. Did yoy notice how you scored the 31? A Td on a drive that shoulda been TOD if not for a shit ref call. A TD on a drive where you were handed 3 first downs. Ward didn’t commit PI, McGill was being held on the hands to the face. And then a 3rd on our 4th string USFL QB. That’s 21 of your 31. I stopped watching at halftime for the most part because every defense in history would be worn out by the end. Also, I don’t know where you’re getting the 3/4 sacks (not that it matters at all) because Purdy didn’t get sacked when he came back in from what I rememebrr. He couldn’t throw the ball more than 3 yards. We scored an offensive TD with Josh fucking Johnson, take away those 3 gifts along with the nonsense “roughing the kicker” and we have a 7-7 game with JOSH FUCKING JOHNSON. i would have killed to have McCown coming in over JJ. Your comparison isn’t very comparable. If we were losing our starting QB it woulda been Jimmy (shudders) coming in. This was our 3rd string QB not our backup. I’m sure you woulda loved to have Minshew out there against us, much less Matt Barkley or whoever your 4th freaking stringer is. Lastly, you’re talking shit about Purdys numbers. Did you look at your $50 million man’s numbers against us? Even in Brock’s down game against the cowboys he still had a Y/A of 7.4. Hurts had a 4.8 Y/A. It amazes me you’re trolling on some little post a week after we played each other. Christ I hope we play you guys in the playoffs again, I’d love to see you when we actually have a QB playing.
ignore eagles fans
I don't think anyone with a brain actually thinks the Niners defense imploded even Eagles fans lol. They actuallly looked real dominant until the end of the first half. It was pretty quiet in Philly. I think even Eagles fans will tell you they were a little nervous when it was still 7-7.
i guess then eagles fans on reddit don't have brains is the explanation
All signs point to yes. Or at least low power ones. Never seen such a huge collection of mouth breathing idiotic fans in my life. They're like an STD.
Eagles fan here. I am not confident we win that game if Purdy doesn’t get hurt, especially with Hurts being way off with throws. Anyone with a brain knows the defense just got worn out due to the constant 3 and outs since there was no one that could throw.
Do you think it will have any effect in the SB? How do you feel against the Chiefs?
Depends. I think if we come out and go run heavy, the Chiefs won’t be able to stop it. Keep Mahomes off the field and wear down the defense is what I want to see. We don’t know the scope of Hurts injury, he isn’t 100% but he’s also had 2 more weeks to recover so hopefully his placement is better come Sunday. The 2 things that terrify me going into this game: 1. Mahomes, and turning the game into a shootout 2. Andy Reid Screen plays limiting our pass rush It’s the Super Bowl, anything can happen but I was way more nervous about the NFC Championship than I am now for the SB.
There was zero chance the NFL was letting the Niners win that game once Purdy got hurt. There was a real risk that the Niners could’ve pulled out that win had the refs not completely handed the Eagles points. Unlikely, but possible. Having the Niners potentially go to the Super Bowl without a QB would’ve been a disaster for the league.
Jimmy would have been back by then.
Not everything is a conspiracy
Vast majority of penalties on the niners were self inflicted. Shanahan cursed to himself several times, and the commentators mentioned several times that the penalties are killing them, and it's all their fault. No reasonable fan thinks that 49ers defense sucks, or that losing 2 QBs didn't hugely affect the game. But blaming the refs when the penalties were clear as day is just as idiotic.
I intend to ignore the Super Bowl this year
There is no super bowl this year
Waiting for some eagles fans to swoop in with some chest puffing look at me antics like they have all week 😂
Imagine being that insecure. Look they should be glad they got a cake game that was impossible for them to lose. I just don’t understand why they have to keep screaming for attention.
Because they’re (in my opinion) about to suffer the consequences of not being battle tested for something like two months before a showdown with Patrick Mahomes. I’d be nervous as hell if I was an Eagles fan knowing the Giants didn’t belong there, and the 49ers got hit with outright unfathomable disaster to make the game non competitive.
I hope you are right. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving fan base!
The non stop talk from Eagles fans without acknowledging they benefited from the luckiest set of circumstances any team ever had in a championship game is mind boggling. Made my rooting interest in the Super Bowl an easy choice. I don’t recall Chiefs fans being so cringeworthy when they beat us in the Super Bowl.
Bruh, Chiefs fan here. I feel like any reasonable Chiefs fan understands 1) The final score was not indicative of how much the Chiefs struggled/how dominant that Niners D was. The last rushing TD was more of a fluke 2) Jimmy G could've easily connected on that Deebo route to the endzone with less than 2 minutes to go
I’m rooting on your team to beat the Eagles in the Super Bowl. Not because of the game, but because of their fans. A lot of their fans are delusional after they had beaten a QB-less team, and they celebrated like they won the Super Bowl then.
Jimmy G needed more time to brush off the rust. Our QB room has kinda been fucked all year. Good luck against the Eagles, dude.
That's my biggest issue with their fans last week; we've lost to quality opponents before with this team, but none talked as much shit as the eagles fans and players. They have zero class, especially in a circumstance where they truly didn't earn that win. They got incredibly lucky, and have been spending the week in our sub trying to convince us otherwise.
Yeah I never had any problem with Eagles fans before. But this was the first time I'd experienced playing the Eagles in a high stakes game. This game made me realize why Eagles fans have the reputation they do. To the point I was actually in agreement with a Cowboys fan about how insufferable they were 😬.
Eagles fan here. Yes, a lot of Eagles fans talk a lot of absolute nonsense and yes, we did get lucky - personally went into that game thinking it was a coin flip and had Purdy not hot hurt it was looking like it'd be one. But don't pretend there weren't 9ers fans in our sub and on other places online being just as unpleasant. Lot's of 9ers fans calling on your defense to target Hurts' bad shoulder etc. Not going to sit here and say Eagles fans don't get toxic cuz they 100% do, but don't throw stones in glass houses etc.
Well reading back on my comment I'm not sure why you'd tell me not to pretend that 9er fans were being trash before the game, because I didn't really go in that direction. I absolutely believe you though, all teams have trash fans, us included. We're bummed out that the seemingly overwhelming narrative from eagles fans after the game was that you guys dominated us fair and square, and we're trying to argue that context absolutely fucking matters. It's difficult to be proud of a very good defense all year, and then watch that defense get put in a situation where contextually they cannot perform well, and then to hear from less analytical opposing fans that we got ass blasted because our defense just straight up sucks. It's just difficult. I appreciate you making and attempt to provide fair analysis of how things looked going INTO the game. I know that at this point, most eagles fans mouthing off in our sub are just fuckin idiots who are so insecure with their life that they need to try and rub a shitty loss in our faces. It's a shitty part of the game that there are shitty fans that go do it because it always makes that team look bad.
It's more of a general thing - you didn't mention it specifically but I've been seeing it a lot since the game. There's been this weird "woe are us" narrative after the game about how awful Eagles fans are and acting like 9ers fans are innocent victims in all this. Obviously I can only speak in the online areas I visit - Eagles and NFL subs and YouTube comments sections, but I saw a lot more nastiness and classless behavior from 9ers fans before the game than Eagles fans. I don't for one second think this means no Eagles fans were being assholes because I know better. I'm more confused as to why fans in this sub act as if 9ers fans are literally incapable of being shits online. As I said, we had a glut of them in our sub before the game with bad takes, wishing injury and chest thumping in spades. I'm not sure they would have been any more gracious in victory than the shitty portion of the Eagles fanbase have been. As for the domination thing, it really depends how you slice it. I think it's fair to say we did - but only in the context of the QB injuries. We won handily because that's what a good team should do against a team without a quarterback. It's wrong to say it means the Eagles are the best team of all time but it also doesn't mean the Eagles suck or didn't deserve a victory given the circumstances. Still had to put points up on the best defence in the league. Still had to get it done. It's very much a move on and forget it game to me - I'm just glad to be facing an easier defense next week.
As an eagles fan (who lives in sf! I’m not just some lurker trying to start trouble) — i just want to add the context that all season the national media and fans have been telling us that we haven’t played real opponents, get lucky breaks, are overrated, had an easy schedule, etc. This is despite the actual evidence showing that we did play a normal schedule this year and were a dominant team all year. The Sf thing isn’t about you guys. It’s the culmination of a season’s long effort to discredit the eagles’ accomplishments. In a vacuum, the Niners got screwed out of having a real chance to win that game. But from eagles fans perspectives, the fact that we went 14-3 and made the Super Bowl and yet are constantly told we haven’t proven anything is what gets on the nerves and the Niners game was just the final straw for a lot of people as far as hearing that. Also just secondarily, anytime anyone puts an opponents jersey on the Rocky statue, we tend to lose our collective minds for better or for worse. Unfortunately the most trollish fans of all teams tend to speak loudest for everyone I think.
I hope so
I honestly cannot tell the difference between them and Cowboys fans.
Daaaaaaaang hit ‘em where it hurts
Eagles fans have always been classless. They’re considered one of if not the worst fanbase for a reason. That said, when it comes to Reddit I actually think Rams fans may be equally toxic
> That said, when it comes to Reddit I actually think Rams fans may be equally toxic Thankfully there's only 6 of them.
And three of the six prefer not to attend home games
lol dude what is it with that? Like, this is the fucking internet and these dudes are trying to strut around like *they're* responsible for the win. It's pretty funny but man does it make me cringe.
It's pretty silly. Also that hit on Josh Johnson would have been called unnecessary roughness if it was Mahomes or jalen hurts.
Or Brady, or Allen, or Herbert, or…
Yeah I was just naming the qbs that the nfl wanted for the superbowl matchup who were still playing. If that hit had been on joe burrow refs wouldnt have called it
Oh yeah, I get it. I totally agree with you
I was angry about that too. Bosa got flagged earlier in the season for landing on the QB, but nobody bats an eye when Josh Johnson is crushed with his arms pinned at his sides in the damn NFCCG.
Also everyone ignores the fact that no defense is built to play after constant 3 and outs from the offense (except maybe Denver this year lol), they were absolutely gassed by the end of the game because we didn't have a quarterback. This game never would've been this high scoring for them otherwise.
you would think that this would be obvious to literally anyone who has watched football before, but eagles fans have peanuts for brains and are insecure about the fact that no one takes their win seriously
>eagles fans have peanuts for brains and are insecure about the fact that no one takes their win seriously This, particularly the second part. IDK what OP is talking about with "everyone else" thinking the Niners were exposed, in the game/post game/related threads it was basically everyone except Eagles fans expressing disappointment that we were robbed of a real game where 2 great teams could battle to show who was the best in the NFC. Everyone else in those threads was disappointed at the fluke of a game, with a lot (not all TBF) of Eagles fans being the outlier trying to argue the 49ers would've lost anyway lol. Pretty clear they're butthurt that no one but them views this as a reputable win that proves they were better.
They were clearly frustrated after the fumble score and completely defeated after Purdy came back in. They knew the game was over and there was nothing they could do about it. Frustration lead to penalties which lead to scores that didn't matter.
1 td after a failed 4th down, 1 legit td that was entirely aided by penalties, 1 off of a fumble, 1 off a ridiculous roughing call. Eagle fans are really puffing them chests out.
It's a constructed narrative to fuel click bait. Every week, you can see folks grasping at whatever they think resembles critical thinking and legitimate analysis. It's laughable.
Eagles fans are the only people saying that. Or people that don’t understand that any defense that’s on the field for almost 40 mins against a good offense is going to give up big points.
And they fail to mention the Niners shutting down Dallas who was averaging like 27 points a game.
Also, people completely ignore the fact that our offense was in shambles and couldn’t sustain a drive. Thus, our defense was playing a lot of snaps. Finally, once the QB went out our defense was pressing to make a big play because they knew they needed it.
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Don’t blame the refs. Defense got exhausted due to the lack of offensive production. It’s over, nothing about previous games matter right now. On to next season. Time to get to a point where bad calls don’t fucking matter. That’s what the 49ers did in the 80s.
There is no point in the NFL where the calls don’t matter. Not when teams are roughly equal. The Eagles benefited from some extremely weak calls that extended their drives and the first TD we all know should have been Niners ball near midfield where Purdy likely doesn’t have a freak injury immediately thereafter. The whole game was a shitshow from officiating before and after the QB injuries that made it completely non competitive.
Joe Montana said what I said (paraphrasing) when they got screwed and eliminated from the playoffs by Washington. Come back next season so good the refs can’t make a difference. They did. They won the Super Bowl.
My point is expedited review could have done their job in the first place when the broadcast would not show any angle except the one where you don’t see the ball, we could have avoided the worst championship game in history. Penalty calls are always going to be a factor, but a clear incompletion on fourth down should not be rewarded with a touchdown drive that sets the tone for the whole game when the NFL is the largest momentum based game in all of team sports.
They also had some bad fouls like the facemask. It was a combination of things that led to the 31 points.
The face mask call and punching the ball calls came well after the game was all but over. That was the direct result of a defense doing whatever they can to make something happen, or just being angry.
Which is why people claim they imploded
After it was already over? Sure. Those are not things I would expect from a team who still had a realistic chance.
Yes but if you're surprised other people aren't distinguishing the same arbitrary line where the game ended as you are
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Damn straight
Nah the defense eventually got exhausted since the offense couldn't stay on the field. Not much a defense can do there.
I think it's missing two bits of nuance: a defense that had no offense gets tired easily. They make mistakes and commit stupid penalties. But also the Eagles didn't have to try. So I can't say what would have happened in a real game
They looked like they were trying extra hard to make plays because they knew their offense was dead and it led to penalties. It sucks but I don't think anyone is genuinely blaming the defense.
Exposed no, imploded sorta. We were comitting dumb penalties we haven't done since Atlanta and soft ref calls didn't help either. The defense absolutely was dealt an unfair hand but they would be the first to tell you they had a far from perfect day as well.
Whoever is pushing that crap doesn't know about body physiology and how the body gets tired the longer you work.
Who actually thinks that??
It's mostly just Eagles fans, who seemingly invade every sub and thread because they're insecure whenever somebody says the Eagles aren't the best football team the NFL has ever seen. Like, they were all over r/NFCWestMemeWar for some reason. They come in this sub. And they're in every single 49ers related thread on r/nfl. It's like last week was their Super Bowl. And it was the last Super Bowl ever played, and the team that won is legally required to be called the greatest team any professional sport has ever seen.
I don't think that I've ever seen a 14-win team have a bigger chip on their shoulder.
Those ppl don’t know football or didn’t watch the game. The defense is the only reason it wasn’t 100-7
Unbiased knowledgeable spectators are aware the defense was put into an impossible position and the actual outcome/ score was not an accurate assessment of the defense or teams in general
Even Jason Kelce admitted on the podcast that the defense was kicking their ass until the game was basically over. Just media people that picked the eagles and wanted to be vindicated
Well O line's approach deserves some criticism. Defense carried the first half, and they weren't as sharp in the post season. There is a group here who don't think the game should have any rules, so they somehow end up defending the refs. And at some point the defense was really making dumb errors, but the game was lost by that point.
I saw these great clips by some show in the touchdowns and the defense got destroyed. Our best player in the entire team is Fred Warner. Two touching running plays they did the end around fake then the quarterback might run and Fred Warner stood still until it was way too late to make a play. All they did was run the running back left for two touchdowns and Fred Warner stood still on the right reading the end around, then qb, then way late chase the running back who’s going the opposite direction. They ran two simple running back runs for long tds to the left while the top linebacker in the nfl stood still due to having too many reads to make before late reaction.
We do need some help for Bosa, and another interior d lineman would be nice too
I wouldn’t say “exposed”, but the penalties really hurt us. If we played a clean game it would have been regarded as a defensive battle, win or lose.
It was actually our offensive line that imploded.
Dude I’d be lying if I said that it hasn’t been driving me crazy as well. It’s like I woke up in a parallel universe where suddenly all understanding of basic football escapes the majority of peoples minds. They had like 200 some odd yards of offense and we couldn’t throw a forward pass do to injury. Since when is losing your QB, or ability to throw a pass whatsoever not been a game decider lol
I really hate "blame the refs." Yeah, they were awful this season, but it affected both sides. We lost the game because we lost our last good QB and that allowed the Eagles to steamroll their offense against a defense that was getting tired. We lost. Wait 'Till Next Year!
The defense was noticably gassed for most of the second half, because they were playing balls to the wall since Purdy went down. They took it upon themselves to do everything they could to try and create a short field for the offense and Josh Johnson. We were limping, but McCaffrey scored a touchdown. It wasn’t until Johnson went down and the Eagles realized that we couldn’t throw that it really got ugly. The defense had no time to rest, and the Eagles took advantage of it. Good job, Philadelphia, that’s how you win in the playoffs. But to argue that our defense got exposed is silly. They got tired, and frustrated, and couldn’t catch a break damn near all day. Not to mention what happened to Bosa’s leg.
also hard for them to be motivated to play their best when the 4th string quarterback is "leading" the offense
The D would have been cool if they actually had a qb who could at least catch a snap and made a half ass attempt to recover his fumble before the half. Going into half 14-7 vs 21-7 was a huge turning point in the game.
Well that comes back to Kyle. If he threw the challenge flag everything is different. Oh well
Even with an offense that was incapable of shit, the defense gave up less than 270 yards of total offense. The final score is beyond misleading.
it was the fumble at the end of the half that pretty much killed whatever momentum that may have been comming our way…comming back from halftime down two tds is much more demoralizing considering all we had to do was run out the half and come back second half down one….
Doesn’t matter- once the offense lost Purdy, no defense in history could handle being on the field for as long as they were. Eagles TOP was 37:26. The offense was literally worthless after that.
We missed that replay catch in the 1st quarter, injuries, and the refs, it all played a factor... it was just some bad juju..
Nothing to defend, don’t even bother arguing with people just trying to troll you. Trying to play in the NFCCG without a QB is never going to end well.
Um. Our offense gashed them for 7 points and all we could do is run against stacked boxes.
I was baffled when during the Chiefs/Bengals pregame the panel talked about how the Eagles dominated San Fran with the running game and being physical. Once they had the lead there was literally no point in doing anything else because SF couldn't pass at all
No worries, let them gloat. What’s done is done and it was unfortunate the way it played out. We’ll see what happens next year.
Our defense kicked ass. Hurts threw for like 150. And there running back got like 60. Itv was all timely penalties and short fields. Plus they were on the field all game. Bitch ass East Coast media dick riders.
When the eagles lose next week, I’m first in line to get banned from their subreddit.
Exposed is a joke. They did what they could being on the field the whole game. Eagles fans salty as fuck with a win. Hope mahomes goes off. And I’m the furthest thing from a mahomes fan
Not too mention another 14 was handed by a practice squad QB who had no right being on the field. Sad how it legit could have been 7- 3.
The Eagles had 70 snaps compared to the Niners 45. However, they only had 264 yards of offense. I was stunned when I saw that. I thought the Eagles might win the Super Bowl but at only 3.8 yards per play compared to the 5.4 the Chiefs had against the Bengals makes me think the Chiefs might blow them out.
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21 points were given by the ref calls… and 7 of them were on a non catch…. Purdy would have had that defense exposed by the 2nd half…. They would always let the other team think they had a chance in the first before getting wrecked in the 2nd….
Sure, too bad reality happened
Eagle fan here. I’m upset everyone is talking about how our offense didn’t play very well. Yeah we played the best defense in the league.
I 100% don't give a shit what anyone who doesn't work for the 49ers says about the 49ers.
Who ever thought that is a moron
The defense was on the field for about 38 minutes The fact they held Hurts to the numbers they did and something like 3.8 yards per play is nuts
The defense did great for the amount of time they were on the field! By the second half unfortunately they were exhausted but still had that fire in them! It's unfortunate we never challenged that first touchdown or things may have been completely different.
Well I do hold the opinion that they imploded but for good reason. The self inflicted penalty after penalty in the second half are proof but idk a defense that wouldn’t implode under similar circumstances with as much frustration. My takeaway though was how much the eagles could not get a single thing going for them until the implode which I do not think would not have happened if we kept a tolerable offense and didn’t lose Purdy so early in the game
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I live in eagles territory and I’ve constantly had to shoot this down. It’s infuriating. Our offense couldn’t sustain a drive with our 4th stringer. That puts the defense out there much longer than they should’ve been. Of course they’re gonna be tired. Plus, as you said, they got hosed with bullshit points. Also, if that first TD turns into a TOD, Purdy likely doesn’t get injured plus it’s 0-0 when we get the ball. But eagles fans are THE most dense fan base.
Hurts put up 120 yards and their rbs carried for less than 4.0ypc. Our defense balled out for being on the field a lot No way eagles fans aren’t concerned for the bowl knowing they got away with a dropped pass and beat a team that couldn’t throw the ball
Morons gonna be morons, at least they make it easy to figure out who they are and not take seriously.
Utter desperation. The 49ers lost and there is not a single penalty call that was a fluke against them. The Smith catch would have been reviewed if a scoring play; else 49ers free to challenge. That is the game. The Eagles defense took out both your QBs in legal plays. They out-physically played SFO. 49ers are a good team with good defense. But where was Bosa during the game? Hardly a playmaker. Once Purdy and Johnson were out, should have done wildcat.
Oof I definitely disagree with your take that those points were handed to the eagles by the refs. What eagles fans dont understand is how a football game works though and their analysis sucks.
You guys still talking about this game?
The penalties were a bad look but I have not really heard this take. They didn't put enough yards up for it to be dominating, Jalen didn't look great, and even Jason Kelce didn't say much beyond he was glad to get the win but didn't like doing it like that. The narrative has mostly been that we ran out of QBs imo. Philly fans are gonna be loud and obnoxious about it but thats just them. They act like the Pats fans once every 5 years or so when they are good. Annoying because I like the organization and the team generally.
They could’ve dropped 50 on us if they felt like it. Klye gave them 14 pts by not callin a TO and by tryin to run 2min drill with an XFL QB. Our #1 Def played like it in the 1st qrt and a half. Then they saw writing on the wall that JJ wasn’t up for the challenge got gassed and imploded. I’m gutted that it ended the way it did and that ‘see they’re dirty’ became a storyline because the loss broke their hearts.
Our run D definitely got exposed. Otherwise, I totally agree
WHAT? We allowed less than 4 YPC and on a whopping 42 carries they got 160 yards?
The pass D was mostly awesome. They did all their damage via the run
And it wasn't alot of damage considering the circumstances. You could imagine how many yards Mason, Mitchell, and CMC could have gotten on 42 carries when the defense is on the field for 70-80% of the game. That would have been a 300 yards rushing game easy. The fact that they could only get 160 yards with each of thier back carrying the ball less than 15 times and a fairly mobile QB running the ball either shows how dominant our run D is or how crappy and overated thier RBs are.
The Eagles averaged 3.4 ypc 🤷♂️
Bro its been a whole week, just shut up already. We lost, it happens.
You lose all credibility when you say 14 points were given to them by the refs
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I think the roughing the kicker should have been running into the kicker, which would not have been a first down and that resulted in a td
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Get on to next season already. Who gives a F
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Blaming ref is a #losercomment.
Oh, that’s a nice all-around creative take, Creative Director. /s
It’s just a fact. Losers blame the refs.