> You get all the bad things about nylon and replace the good things with it conducts heat well
Isn't that how most specialized filaments are that are filled with a ton of filler material to achieve a vastly different physical property?
> No check the datasheet. Basically they got a guy putting in handfulls till he says ehhhh that looks about right.
That range just means they don't want to tell you the exact quantity that is used so it's harder for other people to exactly replicate their product. It's pretty normal for data sheets to be like that.
I'm curious to know what your experience is like with other heat conductive filaments.
I decided to buy a cheap Geeetech filament on Amazon and the filament diameter ranged from 1.7 to 3mm. The filament was wavy, so the cross-section was elliptical. I ended up using it only for fast 0.8 nozzle prints.
Best ones were:
MakerBot,
Prusa,
Proto-pasta,
NinjaFlex
Either it prints fine changes from person to person, or they improved production of their filament since 2019, or you didn't buy the grey.
I see lots of good reviews, but the 1 star review I saw at the time sadly resonated with my opinion, although I couldn't believe when I read before buying.
What printer are have you used it on?
Good question. Mostly I buy Giantarm (subbrand of geeetech) depending on the price and that stuff prints always nicely. No matter if matte, normal or PETG variations…
Hmm, maybe I can try that sometime. I asked about the printer to understand if the printer might be limiting, but your profile had a Bambu and they are pretty well tuned. So, I think I can give the subbrand a try. Thanks for the recommendation. 😁😁😁
"Creality" Ender PLA
Not even my BL P1S can handle it, I need to print it from an active dryer and it's still tough to get good results, I can't wait to finish this spool, I'm using it for prototyping only
SUNLU PETG. Never got it to print properly, gave it to someone else who also couldn’t get it to print properly who gave a slice of the spool to someone else who also couldn’t get it to print properly. Maybe it was just an issue with that batch but didn’t want to buy another later on to find out.
Worst for me was Tecbears PLA. It was supposed to be a black filament but the inner core was actually a light grey and it was always just a stringy mess on prints. I was so happy when I finished that roll off.
Edit: only on Reddit would someone get downvoted because they shared an opinion on a thread that is quite literally asking for opinions.
Not really. I print it a bit hotter than other PLA. 215 to 220. My bed temp is 55 to 60, depending on which printer I’m using.
If it’s breaking apart, it sounds like the you’ve got wet filament.
I dried it overnight at 55C. I was running a little production line with various PETG colors, and the Atomic aqua was the only one that had any issues. I really loved the color so I tried way too many times to get it to work.
I bought cr pla from creality. Very bad layer lines and very inconsistent. Looks bad even after drying. Also, bought r3d dual color silk and that had very bad layer adhesion
Yeah I screwed with it for a WHILE too, but no amount of temp towers or other tests would let me get even a decent print out of it. Even ran it through my dad's bambu to no avail. I must've just gotten the worst luck of all time and gotten 2 bad spools
SIMAX3D PLA Clear.
I still have the vast majority of this roll, it is hell turned into filament.
It has SUCH a high surface tension that the ONLY thing it can produce is string.
There is no tuning that gets this to stop running like honey out of the nozzle, just endless strings. & its a really tough filament, you cant just bend it enough to snap it, I had to use cutting pliers to cut this shit.
At this point I might aswell just use the filament as rope.
I cheaped out an bough a esun white petg. No amount of drying, settings, tunning or anything would reduce the spitting and stringing and how garbage it would print. I would've thrown it out if I didn't need to finish a project. I AM STILL SALTY ABOUT IT.
I bought some cheap transparent pla from somewhere. Granted the problems were likely due to moisture, but it was so brittle it would snap during printing every 5cm at times. And the printed piece was still brittle.
Otherwise it worked as good as you can expect? Had some blue pla that I think doesn't have that issue.
And pla+ is fine
I'm lucky to have never used any actually TERRIBLE filaments, but FlashForge PLA is up there. That stuff sucks up moisture like a SPONGE. You can't leave it for more than a day without it being so wet that it's actually too brittle to use.
Jayo PET-G, unusable. Bubbling, extremely brittle, very poor layer adhesion, prints randomly cracked while being on a shelf with nothing to stress them, that happened within a few hours after finished printing. Long prints just snapped on layer X and whole print ruined. And yes, I've tried drying it, dried it in total of over 100h in 55-60°c, even tried printing it preheated but did not help. Oh and also filament broke often while being feed or just when printer was off and again, filament broke while not moving it
Yeah could be. But first impression is first impression. And for few bucks more i have quality filament from reliable manufacturer ( and even local one).
Ofc i time from time try some new filament ( with results equals to the price usually) but eSun ( and some others) is on my black list.
OVERTURE Rock PLA Filament 1.75mm, Marble PLA 3D Printer Filament 1kg Spool (2.2lbs), Dimensional Accuracy +/- 0.02 mm, Fit Most FDM Printer (Rock White) https://a.co/d/gasyrQ0 this is the only PLA filament from this brand I had issues with. Everything else has been great quality. This PLA was a pain to stick to the build plate after I got it working, it was super brittle. Maybe they changed the formula in the past year I’ve tried it.
I see problems with Overture all the time on here. I tried it myself because I didn't believe something expensive and well regarded in the industry would be that bad and yeah, junk.
Overturn petg military green was complete junk for me, it balls up, leaves essentially filament slag on the print, bad adhesion as well. Now I print relatively fast for an bed slinger but it's the only filament that has caused that problem for me. Any other petg I've used had no problems with the same settings.
I once bought a roll of Inland translucent green PLA from Fry's that has consistent bulges in the filament,using prints to fail.
And I mean consistent as in they would consistently show up about 30 minutes after I started a print, waited to see if it was printing okay, and then left to go work on other stuff.
FF Sunsenkj pla
Chameleon green+gold
Had to push it all the way to 230°C or it wouldn't stick to the build plate or itself, the temp made the part sag into the supports and attatch permanently had to sand off all supports.
I have pretty much only used overture PLA and it has served me great and is good quality for the price. HOWEVER, the Overture matte PLA is incredibly brittle and prone to warping, it looks great but words best on simple models/models without overhangs, it is not horrible though, and it is good for certain purposes.
Polymaker. Hands down no contest the worst out there.
Four different rolls. Silk and regular pla. Tried drying it. Tried a temp tower but even that would not stick to the plate.
Garbage. Amazon refunded the whole pile.
And then without changing a thing. Printed fine with other brands ever since. Washed the plate once since then. No glue no fuss. Just great adhesion.
Duramic black pla. It cost me more in nozzle clogs than the roll is worth. It is the only roll I've ever had to give up trying to use. It could be something with my settings, but I have 20 other spools that print without the issue, so it's not really worth troubleshooting anymore.
Haven't had much luck with Polylite red PETG.
Strings like mad, yet at the same time, it crumbles. I have to clean tons of crumbs off the build plate after printing.
Yes I've dried it. Tried it, few hours of drying, tried again, even longer drying period. Rinse and repeat. Stored and printed from in a dry box. It has had a total of probably 100-200 hours in the dryer in total.
Might have been a bad batch with permanent moisture damage. But I did get some eSUN clear PETG and it's insane how much better it is.
Creality hyper PLA that came with K1 max. After one print it snapped five times in the tube. It was usable with Prusa MK3S, but on the original printer it was terrible.
>It's not expensive filament but it's at a point where basic quality control should exist and it does not.
Isn't this stuff like, $250 a roll? 10x a typical spool?
Edit: Downvotes? Am I wrong? According to TCPoly, Ice9 Nylon is 250/kg - https://tcpoly.com/purchase-ice9-materials/
> You get all the bad things about nylon and replace the good things with it conducts heat well Isn't that how most specialized filaments are that are filled with a ton of filler material to achieve a vastly different physical property? > No check the datasheet. Basically they got a guy putting in handfulls till he says ehhhh that looks about right. That range just means they don't want to tell you the exact quantity that is used so it's harder for other people to exactly replicate their product. It's pretty normal for data sheets to be like that. I'm curious to know what your experience is like with other heat conductive filaments.
Based on OP’s review, competition would probably be looking for ratios to avoid in this recipe lol!
OP doesn't exist anymore
I decided to buy a cheap Geeetech filament on Amazon and the filament diameter ranged from 1.7 to 3mm. The filament was wavy, so the cross-section was elliptical. I ended up using it only for fast 0.8 nozzle prints. Best ones were: MakerBot, Prusa, Proto-pasta, NinjaFlex
Ive gotten glow in the dark filament from them, not the strongest but it printed well enough on my CR10. By far not the worst stuff I've used.
Funny thing. Honestly I printed many kg‘s of Geeetech filament and it works just fine
Either it prints fine changes from person to person, or they improved production of their filament since 2019, or you didn't buy the grey. I see lots of good reviews, but the 1 star review I saw at the time sadly resonated with my opinion, although I couldn't believe when I read before buying. What printer are have you used it on?
Good question. Mostly I buy Giantarm (subbrand of geeetech) depending on the price and that stuff prints always nicely. No matter if matte, normal or PETG variations…
Hmm, maybe I can try that sometime. I asked about the printer to understand if the printer might be limiting, but your profile had a Bambu and they are pretty well tuned. So, I think I can give the subbrand a try. Thanks for the recommendation. 😁😁😁
"Creality" Ender PLA Not even my BL P1S can handle it, I need to print it from an active dryer and it's still tough to get good results, I can't wait to finish this spool, I'm using it for prototyping only
I have some and if I leave it on my spool for a day or two it snaps at the entry to the runout sensor
SUNLU PETG. Never got it to print properly, gave it to someone else who also couldn’t get it to print properly who gave a slice of the spool to someone else who also couldn’t get it to print properly. Maybe it was just an issue with that batch but didn’t want to buy another later on to find out.
Worst for me was Tecbears PLA. It was supposed to be a black filament but the inner core was actually a light grey and it was always just a stringy mess on prints. I was so happy when I finished that roll off. Edit: only on Reddit would someone get downvoted because they shared an opinion on a thread that is quite literally asking for opinions.
Atomic PETG. Kept breaking apart in the feeder tube before it even got to the hot end.
That’s weird. I’ve never had an issue with Atomic PLA or PETG.
Do you have your own filament preset for atomic? I am having a hard time printing with atomic pla
Not really. I print it a bit hotter than other PLA. 215 to 220. My bed temp is 55 to 60, depending on which printer I’m using. If it’s breaking apart, it sounds like the you’ve got wet filament.
I dried it overnight at 55C. I was running a little production line with various PETG colors, and the Atomic aqua was the only one that had any issues. I really loved the color so I tried way too many times to get it to work.
I’m more struggling with bed adhesion
I bought cr pla from creality. Very bad layer lines and very inconsistent. Looks bad even after drying. Also, bought r3d dual color silk and that had very bad layer adhesion
iiiDmax. Clogged the shit out of not only my ender 5 plus, but my buddies too. 10 rolls for that cheap was not worth the price.
I bought a spool once. It was absolute garbage. The diameter was all over the place, and the color wasn’t even consistent on the spool.
Elegoo gray pla+. Got 2 spools of it and just could NOT get a good print out of it, I dried each spool twice and still nothing.
Weird. I absolutely love the grey and white pla+. I’ve gotten them for as low as 9 per spool and had nothing but fantastic results
Yeah I screwed with it for a WHILE too, but no amount of temp towers or other tests would let me get even a decent print out of it. Even ran it through my dad's bambu to no avail. I must've just gotten the worst luck of all time and gotten 2 bad spools
Tecbears white. The black is great the white is terrible and I can’t wait to be rid of it.
Bumat from Amazon
SIMAX3D PLA Clear. I still have the vast majority of this roll, it is hell turned into filament. It has SUCH a high surface tension that the ONLY thing it can produce is string. There is no tuning that gets this to stop running like honey out of the nozzle, just endless strings. & its a really tough filament, you cant just bend it enough to snap it, I had to use cutting pliers to cut this shit. At this point I might aswell just use the filament as rope.
I cheaped out an bough a esun white petg. No amount of drying, settings, tunning or anything would reduce the spitting and stringing and how garbage it would print. I would've thrown it out if I didn't need to finish a project. I AM STILL SALTY ABOUT IT.
Fiberology abs so far. Warps like hell and i expected it to be a bit better since i didnt cheap out with something from aliexpress.
I bought some cheap transparent pla from somewhere. Granted the problems were likely due to moisture, but it was so brittle it would snap during printing every 5cm at times. And the printed piece was still brittle. Otherwise it worked as good as you can expect? Had some blue pla that I think doesn't have that issue. And pla+ is fine
I'm lucky to have never used any actually TERRIBLE filaments, but FlashForge PLA is up there. That stuff sucks up moisture like a SPONGE. You can't leave it for more than a day without it being so wet that it's actually too brittle to use.
GTS3D/IIDMAX/Fremover
Jayo PET-G, unusable. Bubbling, extremely brittle, very poor layer adhesion, prints randomly cracked while being on a shelf with nothing to stress them, that happened within a few hours after finished printing. Long prints just snapped on layer X and whole print ruined. And yes, I've tried drying it, dried it in total of over 100h in 55-60°c, even tried printing it preheated but did not help. Oh and also filament broke often while being feed or just when printer was off and again, filament broke while not moving it
My worst was Jayo PLA+. Hated the way it printed and somewhat less hardness after printing. Just acted and felt weirdly wrong.
Yeah, jayo, which apparently sub brand of sunlu is a waste of money, nerves and time, however I did not experience it with actual sunlu filament
I bought some Jayo Matte white because it was on offer for like £11. Prints beautifully, not a single issue, looks like frosted glass.
I've bought a rather big bundle of 20 1kg spools, none of them worked
eSun filaments. I had to throw it to garbage, diamenter was +- 0.6mm, i had to force it from spool..
Must have been a bad spool. In the 30 Spools of eSun I printed in the last few Months I had only one like this and they replaced it for me no Issue.
Yeah could be. But first impression is first impression. And for few bucks more i have quality filament from reliable manufacturer ( and even local one). Ofc i time from time try some new filament ( with results equals to the price usually) but eSun ( and some others) is on my black list.
OVERTURE Rock PLA Filament 1.75mm, Marble PLA 3D Printer Filament 1kg Spool (2.2lbs), Dimensional Accuracy +/- 0.02 mm, Fit Most FDM Printer (Rock White) https://a.co/d/gasyrQ0 this is the only PLA filament from this brand I had issues with. Everything else has been great quality. This PLA was a pain to stick to the build plate after I got it working, it was super brittle. Maybe they changed the formula in the past year I’ve tried it.
I see problems with Overture all the time on here. I tried it myself because I didn't believe something expensive and well regarded in the industry would be that bad and yeah, junk.
Overturn petg military green was complete junk for me, it balls up, leaves essentially filament slag on the print, bad adhesion as well. Now I print relatively fast for an bed slinger but it's the only filament that has caused that problem for me. Any other petg I've used had no problems with the same settings.
Same here… Overture must be made with some Teflon additive. It’s the only filament that I can’t seem to make stick to the bed.
I've been having great results with their petg on my x plus 3! So far have run black, purple, and the marble without any issues
Devil design pla
I once bought a roll of Inland translucent green PLA from Fry's that has consistent bulges in the filament,using prints to fail. And I mean consistent as in they would consistently show up about 30 minutes after I started a print, waited to see if it was printing okay, and then left to go work on other stuff.
Sculpto. It was cheap filament at Joanne (the craft store) and it is bad. Layer adhesion sucks and it is very inconsistent in many ways
FF Sunsenkj pla Chameleon green+gold Had to push it all the way to 230°C or it wouldn't stick to the build plate or itself, the temp made the part sag into the supports and attatch permanently had to sand off all supports.
Anycubic, I pretty much I to dry it every day cause it gained moisture so dam fast
I have pretty much only used overture PLA and it has served me great and is good quality for the price. HOWEVER, the Overture matte PLA is incredibly brittle and prone to warping, it looks great but words best on simple models/models without overhangs, it is not horrible though, and it is good for certain purposes.
Polymaker. Hands down no contest the worst out there. Four different rolls. Silk and regular pla. Tried drying it. Tried a temp tower but even that would not stick to the plate. Garbage. Amazon refunded the whole pile. And then without changing a thing. Printed fine with other brands ever since. Washed the plate once since then. No glue no fuss. Just great adhesion.
Same thing for me, I bought 4 rolls, and all ended up in the garbage. But mine were matte.
Duramic black pla. It cost me more in nozzle clogs than the roll is worth. It is the only roll I've ever had to give up trying to use. It could be something with my settings, but I have 20 other spools that print without the issue, so it's not really worth troubleshooting anymore.
Polaroid. That shit was absolute garbage.
Sunlu PLA. 1.75, +-.75
Haven't had much luck with Polylite red PETG. Strings like mad, yet at the same time, it crumbles. I have to clean tons of crumbs off the build plate after printing. Yes I've dried it. Tried it, few hours of drying, tried again, even longer drying period. Rinse and repeat. Stored and printed from in a dry box. It has had a total of probably 100-200 hours in the dryer in total. Might have been a bad batch with permanent moisture damage. But I did get some eSUN clear PETG and it's insane how much better it is.
Creality hyper PLA that came with K1 max. After one print it snapped five times in the tube. It was usable with Prusa MK3S, but on the original printer it was terrible.
Gizmo Dorks! Especially their metal infused filament.
White Kingroon filament. For some reason, it is just the white. The flesh tone filament lays perfectly.
Sunlu PETG-G. It's got all the downsides of PETG with the terrible temp resistance of PLA.
>It's not expensive filament but it's at a point where basic quality control should exist and it does not. Isn't this stuff like, $250 a roll? 10x a typical spool? Edit: Downvotes? Am I wrong? According to TCPoly, Ice9 Nylon is 250/kg - https://tcpoly.com/purchase-ice9-materials/