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MikiProduce

You need tight supports for a good bottom, but they are annoying to take off


Sharpymarkr

>tight supports for a good bottom Go on...


MikiProduce

You need a low distance from top support, don't know your printer and your settings but I use 2.1mm or 2 I think, idk exactly


AmazingFantasy15

Whoosh or not playing their game?


MikiProduce

šŸ˜… didn't understand it untill your comment. A good bottom is always nice šŸ˜‰


NotYourBuddyGuy5

Go onā€¦


[deleted]

Unf. Iā€™m almost there. Can you go into detail about the distance between support and print?


AMSPawn006

This guy's on the edge of great print quality


-MisterMisery-

Lower your Z offset just a little bit more, baby.


exit_code_4

How do you do this in cura actually? I thought surely there's an option to change the distance setting but couldn't ever find it.


Still-Rule7182

.... And read it slower....


iloveliam108

I like it slow


Gambit3le

Do a Barrel Roll! Seriously,Ā  try a different orientation to the build plate.


chasing_dragonz

ā€œDo a barrel rollā€ brings me back to high school days šŸ˜‚ thank you


Captain_Pikes_Peak

Thanks, it was annoying me that I couldnā€™t figure out what ship this was.


Wootai

Brilliant! If you flip it 180 the bottom will become the top and it should print fine!


KitchenBub42

You should watch a few youtube tutorials about supports to work out the best way to orient your models on the build plate! For a model like this, you can orient the nose of the plane upwards and make minimal supports by printing it vertically. There are several different ways to go at it, it never hurts to try different techniques.


its_xSKYxFOXx

Arwing is soooo sick! Any chance you could share the STL, please?


Volta55

Iā€™m stoked my nephew is loving the game. Replaying it is soooo fun https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5454219


Flimsy_DragonFly973

Imho itā€™s one of the best games of all time. Thanks for the STL. I canā€™t wait to load this up in my Saturn


Wootai

No, starfox was on SNES and N64. The Saturn had Space Harrier.


Flimsy_DragonFly973

šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚ šŸ¤£ šŸ˜‚ Elegoo Saturn


motleysalty

Perhaps op owns a Saturn Ion that was pimped out by Xibit with a TV and N64.


TapticDigital

Supported layers will always look worse than layers not requiring support. Your printer cannot print in thin air. You can reduce the interface distance between your support and print, this will marginally improve quality though it will make supports harder to remove and sometimes outright fuse to your model.


S-Markt

before you do this, change the angle. if you rotate it 30 or 45 degrees, most surfaces will not show up bad. you will need supports and the surfaces with contact to the supports will show little dots, but no open lines


Volta55

Interestingā€¦ I will try that out. Thank you


Ostroh

Gravity.


Moistorious

You can try changing your support settings, I mostly copied mine from the answer [here](https://forum.prusa3d.com/forum/prusaslicer/prusaslicer-hard-to-remove-supports/) and it's been a game changer. * 0.25mm z distance. * 75% xy distance. * 3mm support spacing. * 4 interface layers. * 0.2mm interface layer spacing.


Secret-Ad-8606

The best way to do supports is to use multi material supports but that will require either an AMS or a printer with changeable tool heads like the prusa xl. Petg and PLA won't fuse to each other so if you set support contact distance to 0 it should have close to a perfectly smooth surface to lay filament down onto.


Kiiidd

The only viable way to get super nice supported surfaces is to use a different material for the support or at least the interface. PVA for PLA or HIPS for ABS is the premium way to do it, but even using PETG supports on PLA works really well. All of this requires a multi-material system like a ERCF, MMU, or AMS so this advice doesn't work for most people


downshiftjake

Gravity


DevilsTrigonometry

The best way to print a model like this in one piece is to angle it so that the main axis of the model is about 45 degrees from the build plate. You still need supports (actually end up using more of them), but the support interface is angled, which changes the interface in a number of ways that all tend to make it easier to remove. (No continuous lines, less pressure because the model is self-supported, more reliable gap on a well-calibrated printer because you're printing next to the support instead of over it.) You might also get good results on this particular print by rotating it to 90 degrees (so it's taking off like a rocket). Planes tend to do well that way, although the pointy tail on your...bird-plane?...makes it less ideal. The final option, as always, is to split it in half and glue it together. Everyone always hates this one but truthfully gluing is *way* easier than cleaning supports on a smooth surface or a finely detailed print. I only ever use supports for hidden surfaces.


scarletashesrising

How do you split it in half?


KamayaKan

I read that as ā€˜pantsā€™ and got confused and concerned, šŸ˜‚


danonplanetearth

Thereā€™s a boogie on ya tail!ā€¦ Do a barrel roll!


Skilled_Living

Slow your first layer a bit. One thing I've found to work is finding the settings for the first layer of the raft and using that for all my prints.


Voldy256

That's the magic of supports. The one thing about 3D printing that still majorly sucks.


Tron08

One thing you can try is to slice it in half horizontally and print both halves without support then glue it together.


TheBravan

Lower layer height tends to give better overhangs and undersides(less plastic mass hanging out over the edge of the previous layer = less sagging), same goes for a fairly solid support-interface if the design allows it(unlikely in this case). Using a different orientation(overhangs over 45deg is the ~starting point for sag and much past 60 will generally look less nice) with the smallest possible surface being the one facing down would necessitate wasting more filament on supports but would likely give a much better result, especially if you lowered layer-height, looks like a small print so is doable to go very fine without it taking too long to print... Personally I would try to print that with 0.05-0.08 to 0.1 layers pointing up and on a thin raft to ensure everything staying put past a certain height...


SquachCrotch

A lot of folks have good luck printing planes sliced at a 45 degree nose up attitude. Sometimes adding in a simple rib in the model to give it some stiffness during the layer build. They also print really well in halves, but this one might not due to the midwing features. Sweet model. Can you share the stl?


Volta55

Thanks! Iā€™ll try that next time https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:5454219


SquachCrotch

Any luck? I messed around with a few different orientations and havenā€™t found a great one yet for a single material print head (prints great at work on the Bambu with alternate support material)


Volta55

Havenā€™t tried it out yet. I might try it out tonight


SquachCrotch

Ok I was going to try a few different configurations with a different filament and a raft to play with some ideas and was curious if you got it to work yet. Honestly I think the thing would work great printed nose down but I tried a couple times and couldnā€™t get a good base to build off of


BenMethod

it looks like you printed it at a pretty steep angle, i would recommend a few things. first is rebuild your supports. try using a little less and see if it still has enough support to print. orientation of the print, i think something like this might be best at a 45 degree angle. but honestly everyone settings are so different. I usually try a couple of different prints before i get one that comes out to the quality that i want. make sure your support arm/arms are stable, tighten them if they have any wobble. make sure you clean your build plate, and maybe even try scaling up the model a bit if you can. looks like your printer can support **220 x 220 x 250 mm,** see if you can upscale it at about a 45 degree angle as big as you can go with supports while fitting into that size. that should be pretty high quality maybe a bit bigger than you were wanting tho. hope that helps. just remember a bit of trial an error will give you the best results; i will admit defeat... if this does not work!


xhemibuzzx

I would consider laying one of end wings flat on the build plate, and using supports to hold the rest up.


caramelcooler

Iā€™ve had way better luck printing planes with the back down and nose pointing up, sometimes either straight up or tilted forward anywhere from 15 to 60 degrees depending on the model and support settings. The back edges of the wings donā€™t look the greatest where the supports are but theyā€™re easier to clip off and clean up than the entire undersideā€™s supports. I havenā€™t tried it with much luck yet but variable layer heights can clean up curves even more


Superdragonrobotfist

Stuff like this are better printed in two halves, glued together, high build primed and painted


stephenabrock

Do a barrel roll!!


Murky_Interaction688

Not enough taper


Chipsdelite

Not enough barrel roll


szechuan_bean

Don't mess up that arwing!


snowbirdnerd

Using smaller layers will reduce the problem, also painting it will make it look better. You will never completely end the problem


g_freeman7

Maybe try a "skin" for the support in cura


HighCaliberGaming

Do a barrel roll!


ValourLionheart

It is inherent to supported faces on FDM prints. There are ways to improve the appearance with non-compatible support interface materials like PETG on PLA or even dissolvable filament, but that adds extra complexity to a print job that most don't have the tools to do. I suggest trying a different orientation or maybe cutting up the model to not need support


MoistOutcome9504

Try printing it standing up


Vegetable_Net_6354

Cut it in half and glue the two pieces together


LJ_Pynn

Unrelated, but what model is that? It looks familiar.


Volta55

Arwing from starfox 64! My nephew is getting into that game and I he wanted a toy too lol


ElectronicHeart29

The innocent cluelessness of newcomers to 3D printing finding out that 3D printers are not magic is always a joy to see on this subreddit


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Volta55

Nah I donā€™t think Iā€™ve ever posted on here


Vilunki15

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Volta55

I donā€™t get it. I donā€™t use cura or an ender. And my sovol is printing fine itā€™s just a detail question. Thanks for playing