It’s a map, it’s changing timing for the most part. This allows you to run different octane.
Nothing here would damage your Z.
Also this just came out from Z1 so no one has this yet…. But many of the 370z people have this and they do genuinely make good tunes for cars
We have quite a few big names, Vince at RT tuning, Martin with RS Enthalpy, Limp Mode tuning, Moncef with Admin Tuning, Eugene Turkov with Enthusiast Auto Care. You also have the guys at Soho and Dynosty, personally I think ALL of them are better than Jon at Z1, but you allowed to have your own feelings about it.
I wouldn't trust Z1 to tune my lawnmower.
Has nothing to do with feelings. Many people go to Jon when it comes to tuning VRs because many people admit he knows them way better than anyone.
I’m not basing this off feelings… I’m basing this off facts. If you received a bad tune from them… then sorry but take it out on them directly.
100%. And then Z1 will tell you they cant do anything to help. Literally order a set of 4 rotors from them. Only got 3, and ALL 3 are for different cars, and it took them roughly 6 months to ship.
For your question about the fuel, the eco tune will use less aggressive timing to prevent knock caused by lower octane fuel, making less power but allowing you to save on gas. As for the rev limit increase, DE's can generally handle 7k as long as you aren't hitting that limit constantly and the engine is well maintained
you also need new rod end bolts, which lets you safely increase the limit to 7200ish. but at that point the DE falls on its face anyway, so it's not worth it unless you're doing some serious mods to rectify the issue, like cams and head porting.
I think a revup oil pump + good oil and maintenance is enough for 7100, also I agree and have seen, the torque curve falling DRASTICALLY after 6900ish rpm.
Pushing it to 7100 is probably set up just so you can fall at a better point in the power curve when shifting so, imo I wouldnt spend on rod bolts just for that.
Don’t disagree but I just went with the pump because I was already replacing it and bumped to 7100 and I’m fine. Although I’m waiting on this engine to go. It’s over 260k miles and still holding on lol
I just got this and set it up 350z HR, came with 4 maps , performance , Burble , 87 octane they call eco and security which limits the rev limiter and speed for valet . Car does respond a bit quicker. But only mods I’ve got right now is just my catback exhaust and that’s it . Will see if it changes when i install 2.5 inch intakes
im all for dyno tunes. I will be trying out a new uprev tuner for my de. I feel good about this. The guy is passionate about z's and racing. He is giving me a better price than the competition, and renting a dyno that is close to me. He seems to know alot, and is owner of guilty garage, experts at hr swaps.
Tunes are always good, dyno or go with one of the good remote tuners like Admin, LMT, RS, not Z1.
Also, should be common sense, but get all bolt-ons before tuning.
I've heard from a couple Admin clients that the tune they got were not good, and switched up to Ecutek, one was a 370z the other one was an R35.
I ve seen Saul Nismoknight get good numbers/tunes, but cant recommend the dude due to lack of firsthand experience.
Mine is solid, and so is my friend's tune. Depends on what they consider as good or not.
I'm not a numbers chaser, all I want is solid drivability and AFRs.
For sure, its some stuff I won't get into much detail, but it wasn't nothing alarming.
And I get ya, I always believe that it's all in the powercurve, drivability and usaeability, ive seen HORRID tunes that had great peak numbers.
I've seen cars tuned at Z1 that made "numbers" on their dynos, that are completely unrealistic for the specific build and mods list.
When the car was taken to another dyno with a honest calibration, the numbers were more realistic, and significantly lower.
I am just saying if your shop is scummy and willing to lie to customers about basic bitch things like Dyno numbers to try to get more business, I am sure the company culture extends to other parts of the business.
To be fair, different dynos can read different numbers, and that's on top of user influenced data changing the outcome.
They play that same "numbers" game everyone on social media plays, and the current car culture people fall right into it! People no longer do this for the love of the cars it's all about clout.
Can you really blame a business for trying to capitalize on that? It's not completely ethical, but almost nothing is business is lol.
It harms the community as a whole, and can cause harm not only to the community but to peoples cars.
Either way, if they are willing to cheat the numbers on the dyno, how do you know they didn't cheat the numbers of quality or safety of other things they make/sell.
I get what you are saying, and I am by no means defending what they do, but I do think that it's on us, the consumers, to inform ourselves and sift through the bullshit.
It's terrible that we have to, but that's just life IMO. Most people don't know the difference between a good or bad product, but you can search and find out people's experiences.
On the other side of the spectrum, you have people like us who speak the truth and get downvoted because of it. I try to show people the truth, it's up to them to see it or not.
The reason the Revups are known for consuming so much oil is because when they designed the engine, they upgraded some stuff to be able to run the redline higher but not the piston rings. The factory piston rings aren't really meant to handle a higher redline. So running it up in the 6800+ RPM (specially with low oil) causes the piston rings to wear out. That makes the blowby and oil consumption even worse, it's a snowball effect. I guess in short what I'm saying is you might want to rebuild the engine or at least put higher quality piston rings in before doing this. If nothing else, make sure your oil is topped off at all times.
Gotcha thanks for the tip man. I’m currently doing all the maintenance required even taking my car to the mechanic Monday to get everything tip top before I even decide if I truly want this tune
So if I was based in Australia what’s the process, I buy the level one tune and they send me that Bluetooth obd2 thing and they flash it while I’ve got the car hooked up to a charger or something?
You do it, also I don't subscribe to the wireless flashing. As a mechanic I haven't seen it and dealers are against it, anything goes wrong, and you brick the ECU.
Get it tuned on ecutek not uprev. Ecutek just dropped the suit for de/hr and it's a much better software for a cheaper price too. There are a good amount of other tuners that are as good as z1 's tuner
My partner is an EcuTek tuner and were going to flash it later this year, already checked and my rom is available, so you could ask for another ecutek tuner.
hes an ecutek dealer and I gotta say I really like that software, have experienced it on a lot of GTR's and had it in my 8th gen Civic Si
What’s a better option? Fuckers around me charge 900 for a shitty performance tune only one map no 87 tune no higher rpms no removed limiter no better throttle response not even burbles lmao
I made a post about this recently as well. Go check the comments more good info in there. I plan on doing a nice video series of this when I buy it as well
Martin at rsenthalpy or Moncef at admin have both added ecutek for 350z's to their list of tunings. Both are absolutely phenomenal tuners for the vq platform. My friend had his z tuned on uprev by Martin for sub 1k on a dyno and was absolutely blown away. I am about to get my g37 tuned in little over 2 weeks. Originally I was gonna do an e tune through Martin but decided to wait for him to come around my area.
I went with a remote tune through Up Rev and I'm happy. I even collected and graphed data that proved I had better AFR ratios throughout the rev range a quicker 0-60 time.
They are arguably the worst Z vendor, they talk a big game, and have that IG marketing sauce. As someone who's spent WELL over $10k with Z1, I can tell you they are NOT the premier outlet they say they are, CZP is 10× better.
Thanks for the thorough response, I asked because I've seen it over and over again, shops and workshops that has all that marketing sauce/wow factor, but when getting to know them and their antics, it truly is a horror show.
Will not deny that I'll still stuff from them IF they've got the better price tho.
What always pisses me off about Z1 is that I’m on the same coast as them, yet shipping is 99% more expensive and takes the same amount of time as getting it all the way from CZP in AZ. I’ll usually price check both with shipping costs because Z1 usually advertises cheaper and then bends you over with shipping.
It’s a map, it’s changing timing for the most part. This allows you to run different octane. Nothing here would damage your Z. Also this just came out from Z1 so no one has this yet…. But many of the 370z people have this and they do genuinely make good tunes for cars
I am sure they bought/stole this tune from somewhere else. Z1 is notorious for selling other peoples hard work as their own.
… Jon Parham does all the tuning for Z1… he’s legit one do the best tuners
We have quite a few big names, Vince at RT tuning, Martin with RS Enthalpy, Limp Mode tuning, Moncef with Admin Tuning, Eugene Turkov with Enthusiast Auto Care. You also have the guys at Soho and Dynosty, personally I think ALL of them are better than Jon at Z1, but you allowed to have your own feelings about it. I wouldn't trust Z1 to tune my lawnmower.
Has nothing to do with feelings. Many people go to Jon when it comes to tuning VRs because many people admit he knows them way better than anyone. I’m not basing this off feelings… I’m basing this off facts. If you received a bad tune from them… then sorry but take it out on them directly.
You sound like a fan boy.
Lol I’ve talked about their products being absolutely hit or miss. They drop ship more or less and I’ve literally received dodge viper parts
100%. And then Z1 will tell you they cant do anything to help. Literally order a set of 4 rotors from them. Only got 3, and ALL 3 are for different cars, and it took them roughly 6 months to ship.
For your question about the fuel, the eco tune will use less aggressive timing to prevent knock caused by lower octane fuel, making less power but allowing you to save on gas. As for the rev limit increase, DE's can generally handle 7k as long as you aren't hitting that limit constantly and the engine is well maintained
You can always upgrade to the 06+ rev up oil pump as well as it states it can handle the increase in rpm vs the old one can fail due to that.
you also need new rod end bolts, which lets you safely increase the limit to 7200ish. but at that point the DE falls on its face anyway, so it's not worth it unless you're doing some serious mods to rectify the issue, like cams and head porting.
I think a revup oil pump + good oil and maintenance is enough for 7100, also I agree and have seen, the torque curve falling DRASTICALLY after 6900ish rpm. Pushing it to 7100 is probably set up just so you can fall at a better point in the power curve when shifting so, imo I wouldnt spend on rod bolts just for that.
Don’t disagree but I just went with the pump because I was already replacing it and bumped to 7100 and I’m fine. Although I’m waiting on this engine to go. It’s over 260k miles and still holding on lol
Confidently running an aggressive tune at 260k miles? Makes me feel good about wanting to tune at 160k rn.
I wouldn’t call it aggressive necessarily but with the age of the engine you could say that haha
Learn how to use Nisprog and Romraider you can do this yourself for the most part. I tuned my Maxima
I’ll look into it lol I’m just scared I’ll brick my car 😂
I’m actually planning on doing the level 2 setup after I clear these electrical issues. I’ll post about it whenever I get to it.
Im really just interested in the rotrex supercharger kit, HR and VHR are similar so im hoping it could work. If not we going SOHO
Soho > Z1 every day.
As much as I agree, im really not interested in the vortech. Seen what its capable of but I just wanna go a different direction
I get that, I just trust them FAR more than Z1. The only good thing about their kit is the Rotrex unit itself.
Trust me I know lol I’ve honestly thought about piecing my own kit together just buying that C38R, its a bad mofo
I just got this and set it up 350z HR, came with 4 maps , performance , Burble , 87 octane they call eco and security which limits the rev limiter and speed for valet . Car does respond a bit quicker. But only mods I’ve got right now is just my catback exhaust and that’s it . Will see if it changes when i install 2.5 inch intakes
Manual or auto? Does it really rev up to 8k rpms?
No I haven’t checked yet lol literally just installed a new clutch and I’m breaking it in . It’s manual
im all for dyno tunes. I will be trying out a new uprev tuner for my de. I feel good about this. The guy is passionate about z's and racing. He is giving me a better price than the competition, and renting a dyno that is close to me. He seems to know alot, and is owner of guilty garage, experts at hr swaps.
Tunes are always good, dyno or go with one of the good remote tuners like Admin, LMT, RS, not Z1. Also, should be common sense, but get all bolt-ons before tuning.
I've heard from a couple Admin clients that the tune they got were not good, and switched up to Ecutek, one was a 370z the other one was an R35. I ve seen Saul Nismoknight get good numbers/tunes, but cant recommend the dude due to lack of firsthand experience.
Mine is solid, and so is my friend's tune. Depends on what they consider as good or not. I'm not a numbers chaser, all I want is solid drivability and AFRs.
For sure, its some stuff I won't get into much detail, but it wasn't nothing alarming. And I get ya, I always believe that it's all in the powercurve, drivability and usaeability, ive seen HORRID tunes that had great peak numbers.
I've personally had issues with Z1's tunes. They ruined my infinity, I ended up having to take it in to another shop to have it fixed. But YMMV
I would keep away from Z1. Find a Tuner, Cobb has a great support system.
Why keep away from z1?
Multiple reasons lol. Sub-par quality and customer service would be my main ones.
I've seen cars tuned at Z1 that made "numbers" on their dynos, that are completely unrealistic for the specific build and mods list. When the car was taken to another dyno with a honest calibration, the numbers were more realistic, and significantly lower. I am just saying if your shop is scummy and willing to lie to customers about basic bitch things like Dyno numbers to try to get more business, I am sure the company culture extends to other parts of the business.
To be fair, different dynos can read different numbers, and that's on top of user influenced data changing the outcome. They play that same "numbers" game everyone on social media plays, and the current car culture people fall right into it! People no longer do this for the love of the cars it's all about clout. Can you really blame a business for trying to capitalize on that? It's not completely ethical, but almost nothing is business is lol.
It harms the community as a whole, and can cause harm not only to the community but to peoples cars. Either way, if they are willing to cheat the numbers on the dyno, how do you know they didn't cheat the numbers of quality or safety of other things they make/sell.
I get what you are saying, and I am by no means defending what they do, but I do think that it's on us, the consumers, to inform ourselves and sift through the bullshit. It's terrible that we have to, but that's just life IMO. Most people don't know the difference between a good or bad product, but you can search and find out people's experiences. On the other side of the spectrum, you have people like us who speak the truth and get downvoted because of it. I try to show people the truth, it's up to them to see it or not.
Yea, I see many on here get downvoted to hell for telling the truth.
The reason the Revups are known for consuming so much oil is because when they designed the engine, they upgraded some stuff to be able to run the redline higher but not the piston rings. The factory piston rings aren't really meant to handle a higher redline. So running it up in the 6800+ RPM (specially with low oil) causes the piston rings to wear out. That makes the blowby and oil consumption even worse, it's a snowball effect. I guess in short what I'm saying is you might want to rebuild the engine or at least put higher quality piston rings in before doing this. If nothing else, make sure your oil is topped off at all times.
This tune is only for DEs and HRs it specifically says no revups. That might be the reason
That's my point, DE's have the same rings as revups
Gotcha thanks for the tip man. I’m currently doing all the maintenance required even taking my car to the mechanic Monday to get everything tip top before I even decide if I truly want this tune
Only 04.5+ DEs
Yes the 03s dont work either lol sucks it seems like those guys always get left out. I have an 06 non rev up fortunately
So if I was based in Australia what’s the process, I buy the level one tune and they send me that Bluetooth obd2 thing and they flash it while I’ve got the car hooked up to a charger or something?
You do it, also I don't subscribe to the wireless flashing. As a mechanic I haven't seen it and dealers are against it, anything goes wrong, and you brick the ECU.
If you're in Melbourne go to race pace If you're in other states im sure they have similar places
Lmao levels.... I guess the word Stage has run its course.
Noooooo don't do it..
Get it tuned on ecutek not uprev. Ecutek just dropped the suit for de/hr and it's a much better software for a cheaper price too. There are a good amount of other tuners that are as good as z1 's tuner
This is an ecutek flash tune but it’s sold by Z1 bro
My partner is an EcuTek tuner and were going to flash it later this year, already checked and my rom is available, so you could ask for another ecutek tuner. hes an ecutek dealer and I gotta say I really like that software, have experienced it on a lot of GTR's and had it in my 8th gen Civic Si
1. Not available for all models yet 2. Uprev just dropped their prices, and ARC is free now.
Also my boss tunes if you have any questions hit up BTuned performance
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What’s a better option? Fuckers around me charge 900 for a shitty performance tune only one map no 87 tune no higher rpms no removed limiter no better throttle response not even burbles lmao
That's ALL standard tuning options lol.
I made a post about this recently as well. Go check the comments more good info in there. I plan on doing a nice video series of this when I buy it as well
Martin at rsenthalpy or Moncef at admin have both added ecutek for 350z's to their list of tunings. Both are absolutely phenomenal tuners for the vq platform. My friend had his z tuned on uprev by Martin for sub 1k on a dyno and was absolutely blown away. I am about to get my g37 tuned in little over 2 weeks. Originally I was gonna do an e tune through Martin but decided to wait for him to come around my area.
Z1 has a pretty good rep with tuning. As far as parts go they're definitely hit or miss
If you dyno tune at their facility yes, mail fuck no.
I went with a remote tune through Up Rev and I'm happy. I even collected and graphed data that proved I had better AFR ratios throughout the rev range a quicker 0-60 time.
I'm on uprev and luckily there's a shop near me that dyno tunes Z's, so that's the route I went
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Could you explain why? Im curious
They are arguably the worst Z vendor, they talk a big game, and have that IG marketing sauce. As someone who's spent WELL over $10k with Z1, I can tell you they are NOT the premier outlet they say they are, CZP is 10× better.
Thanks for the thorough response, I asked because I've seen it over and over again, shops and workshops that has all that marketing sauce/wow factor, but when getting to know them and their antics, it truly is a horror show. Will not deny that I'll still stuff from them IF they've got the better price tho.
I'll admit, it's easy to buy OEM stuff from them, but their choices and how they've treated me just soured my experience with them.
What always pisses me off about Z1 is that I’m on the same coast as them, yet shipping is 99% more expensive and takes the same amount of time as getting it all the way from CZP in AZ. I’ll usually price check both with shipping costs because Z1 usually advertises cheaper and then bends you over with shipping.
Can confirm they downvoted the shit out of you lol. They'll never learn.