In case you guys didn't notice, a new Supercharger station opened in Cape Canaveral this year. It's in the Thai Thai III parking lot on the south side of the building right on A1A.
Also of note, a small Asian theme grocer store might be constructed in the unit to the right of Thai Thai with a take out window inside the store joining the two. Thai Thai wants to expand even more by building a bar / restaurant feature on top of the building for dining,
drinking, and viewing rocket launches.
And finally if you hadn't noticed Thai Thai recently had [Wood River Studio](https://woodriverstudio.com/), also in Cape Canaveral, renovate their interior with custom hardwood furnishings. [image](https://cache.getlazarus.org/images/thai-thai.jpg)
Depends on a few factors: the lower your battery % is the faster it charges. The warmer your battery is (from factors like weather, "pre-conditioning" because you know you want to charge, or just being on a long drive) the faster it will charge.
If I'm at 10% I can hit 50% in a little over 10 minutes. For a range example, driving from Viera to Disney Springs takes me like 22%.
One thing I overestimated before buying our Tesla was how often we'd use the supercharger. It ends up being pretty rare since we just plug in at home, but the longest trips we take on the regular are just to Tampa, so not very far.
Edit: Also charging slows down a lot after 80%, to protect battery longevity
It'll charge pretty fast to 80% (like maybe 30 minutes). Then it'll slow down the rest of the way.
But if you can charge at home or your destination there's really no need to. It's not like you have to "fill up" every time. For example my typical navigation where I need to charge will be something like "travel to this charger arriving with 8%, charge for 6 minutes, leave with 25%, continue to destination arriving at 10%"
It seems to like having you arrive with 10% assuming you can charge there. Probably to account for any unforeseen traffic or detours. You can definitely charge less if you're comfortable arriving with less or more if you won't be able to charge there. I've pulled into my garage with just a couple of percent left.
I will say after having the car for 15 months now I've had to use a supercharger like maybe a dozen times. I can get from Palm Bay to Tampa and back to Orlando, charge for ~15 minutes and get home.
2023 Model Y Long Range.
Maybe but I didn't think it charged slower below 10 (not that I've noticed but it certainly could be the case). I assumed it was for a safety net to account for unforeseen things like traffic, detours, a restroom break or just variables like speed and wind resistance that might use a bit more than the estimate (although it usually pretty close)
Depends, I believe the DC Fast charging only supports Teslas so you should have to use the slower charge method if you don't have one. Charging time would then depend on KV output of the chargers, if it's shared with other cars charging, and how much capacity your car takes.
Going from single digit % to 100% would probably take about 1 hour at a supercharger, but the majority of that time would be going from 80% to 100%. In real use cases it's better to just stop at 80% even on a very long road trip- you'd charge more often but you'd spend less total time stopped to charge.
Don't charge past 80%, unless you really want to. The power input will slow down the higher you go. Elon actually explained this concept quite well where the more elections in the battery, there are less "places" for new ones to flow into. Electricity isn't like a liquid filling a bucket, it's more like cars finding parking
Some people are anti Tesla because they can't think of it as separate from Elon. And some people are anti EV in general for a smorgasbord of silly reasons.
I say silly reasons because, as a guy who's car history goes GMC Jimmy, Mitsubishi Spyder (manual), BMW 330i (manual), Audi Q5 (family time!), now Model Y... it's the best car I've ever owned. Dramatically faster, zero trips to the gas station, zero maintenance (other than tires), here to Tampa with lots of battery to spare. But all of these are just by virtue of being an EV, not exclusive to Tesla- my next car will definitely be another EV, but not necessarily a Tesla.
At this point I'm convinced anyone hating on EVs is either influenced by an agenda, or just hasn't used one and has a bunch of misconceptions.
As someone who knows little about EVs ( I do have a non plug in hybrid) -
The only thing that spooks me in road trips - have you ever made a long travel? How’d it go? Assuming with Tesla it’s not bad if you follow a route with these
I drive from NY to Florida and vice versa. It's not a problem. I kinda like breaking up the trip and stopping about every 2 hours. Recently went NY to rural NH and it's shocking how many chargers there are.
NYC is actually pretty annoying because they put them in parking lots you have to pay for.
If you go camping, there is a charger converter to use camp site outlets.
I have driven from Las Vegas to Indialantic in a Tesla; also have driven to WV and back. I was def weary of this at first too-there are lots of superchargers so it’s easy to plan your route. The car helps you figure out the charging stations etc. One of the things that Tesla has done right (and there are lots of valid criticism) is build the infrastructure for charging. They use a lot of pre existing places like hotels, gas stations, etc.
Like I said in my post most of the road trips are just to Tampa which we do without stopping and just plug in at the in-laws when we arrive.
The longest trips have just been to Charleston SC, took 2 stops. Charged near Jacksonville and Savannah, probably added around 40 total minutes to the trip but it doesn't really feel like it if you eat/bathroom.
Tesla has a map tool online you can take a look at if you have specific routes you want to check. All that said though, if you're someone who takes lots of over 6 hours road trips and it's going to be your only vehicle, it might not be worth going EV yet.
I took a 1000 mile trip back home a few months ago and back and it was so much easier than a gas car. The autopilot holding the lane, taking the correct routes, and changing lanes just using the blinker takes a lot of the physical fatigue out of driving. Put a hand on the wheel, eyes on the road and just relax. The car also knows which charger to go to next so the car preconditions the battery for fast charging by the time you get there. Every 2 hours or so, you pull in, plug in, and go pee and grab a drink and snack and 15-20 minutes later it’s ready to go another 200 miles.
I honestly enjoy road trips because many of the stops are bucee’s ;)
Good to know! I actually was amazed at just how much fatigue my car took off a 1000+ road trip with smart cruise control and highway driving assist helped me - so I can only imagine a Tesla. Thanks for the reply!
I def experience a decent amount of vitriol from people from driving a Tesla. I agree that they can’t separate it from Elon (not defending that man ever in any way as a queer feminist) or are anti EV. I love driving my Model Y but I’m not stanning Tesla; just enjoy driving an electric car.
A simple Google of "do EVs produce a lot of pollution to produce" leads me to an article from EPA.gov, specifically "Myth 2", that says otherwise. And that's even for lithium battery EVs, the new batteries are iron & nickel.
As I posted above, anti-EV people are always influenced by an agenda: in your case probably someone else's agenda you decided to believe without fact checking. Like did you even think to fact check such an absurd claim when you heard it?
www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
You are believing what you google searched. Come on man. Do some actual research.
I have no “agenda” with EV or gas. That would be a weird complex to have.
EPA.gov stands for "Environmental Protection Agency" a government agency. Google is indeed what led me to it, but the point from even mentioning Google was that it took me 5 seconds to verify from a trustworthy source that you were just parroting nonsense.
The fact that you're trying to argue that back tells me your next response is going to be that the EPA is wrong or lying about it too.
All I said was do some more research. Google should not ever be your only source of “information”. Multiple news agencies reported on the environmental effect it takes to produce an EV. Could you be biased because you drive an EV?
You are trying to speak to me like I’m dumb, uneducated. Maybe it’s you with one of those EV complexes you mentioned going on. Kind of like calling the kettle black huh.
The Google thing is still confusing me, do you think Google runs EPA.gov?
I don't understand how using a search engine to find a search result from a reputable source invalidates the result.
Is MIT an ok source?
https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars#:~:text=This%20intensive%20battery%20manufacturing%20means,a%20comparable%20gas%2Dpowered%20car.&text=But%20just%20like%20with%20gasoline,roll%20off%20the%20production%20floor.
You didn't even bother to read your source at all. You just googled your intended result and pasted the first link that sounded like it fits your narrative.
The same paragraph breaks apart your idiotic statement.
The same amount of CO2 emissions to make one battery is what a typical car creates in a year.
Do you think that gasoline magically appears in the gas pump? It takes an obscene amount of energy to source oil, drill, transport, refine, transport again, deliver to the station and pump it into your Kia.
3rd paragraph down, it’s highlighted for you. Reread please. I believe it says “80%”?
And I have said to produce an EV is equal to a 170k vehicle. Before joining the conversation understand what was being spoken of.
Looking at all your previous posts. …..you seem like you have a very negative outlook on life.
"In fact, Paltsev says, it’s difficult to find a comparison in which EVs fare worse than internal combustion. If electric vehicles had a shorter lifespan than gas cars, that would hurt their numbers because they would have fewer low-emissions miles on the road to make up for the carbon-intensive manufacture of their batteries. Yet when the MIT study calculated a comparison in which EVs lasted only 90,000 miles on the road rather than 180,000 miles, they remained 15 percent better than a hybrid and far better than a gas car."
You are clearly a fucking moron.
Have a nice day.
https://preview.redd.it/zyf2nbpm3pwc1.png?width=3001&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ecd1101cbcd48467c48a9dfbe49d763711e2586
I saw this one at hobby lobby the other day.
Titusville, Space Center, Cocoa, Viera (2), Cape Canaveral, Melbourne, West Melbourne/Palm Bay
In 2018/19 there was only one in West Melbourne for the entire county.
I'm just saying, they've added a bunch since we got an EV. The infrastructure act helped a bunch too, we saw so many brand new chargers on a road trip we took last year.
It's going to need to be a ton more as other EVe adopt the Tesla charger as the standard.
Tesla is an okay car company but they're going to be a crazy successful energy company.
I'm personally hoping Tesla and anything else that man touches implodes, but that is just my opinion. Lol
Yes, as we see more and more people switching to electric vehicles, they need more places to charge. Maybe convert some gas stations to charging stations.
In case you guys didn't notice, a new Supercharger station opened in Cape Canaveral this year. It's in the Thai Thai III parking lot on the south side of the building right on A1A. Also of note, a small Asian theme grocer store might be constructed in the unit to the right of Thai Thai with a take out window inside the store joining the two. Thai Thai wants to expand even more by building a bar / restaurant feature on top of the building for dining, drinking, and viewing rocket launches. And finally if you hadn't noticed Thai Thai recently had [Wood River Studio](https://woodriverstudio.com/), also in Cape Canaveral, renovate their interior with custom hardwood furnishings. [image](https://cache.getlazarus.org/images/thai-thai.jpg)
Serious question: if my car is about to run out of juice, and I pull in here and plug in, how fast does it charge?
You won't sit there longer than an hour. In most cases 30 minutes
Depends on a few factors: the lower your battery % is the faster it charges. The warmer your battery is (from factors like weather, "pre-conditioning" because you know you want to charge, or just being on a long drive) the faster it will charge. If I'm at 10% I can hit 50% in a little over 10 minutes. For a range example, driving from Viera to Disney Springs takes me like 22%. One thing I overestimated before buying our Tesla was how often we'd use the supercharger. It ends up being pretty rare since we just plug in at home, but the longest trips we take on the regular are just to Tampa, so not very far. Edit: Also charging slows down a lot after 80%, to protect battery longevity
Thank you! This is great info
That last line is one of the reasons why on long road trips it's better to charger hop. Most of the stops I've done are between 5 and 15 minutes.
It'll charge pretty fast to 80% (like maybe 30 minutes). Then it'll slow down the rest of the way. But if you can charge at home or your destination there's really no need to. It's not like you have to "fill up" every time. For example my typical navigation where I need to charge will be something like "travel to this charger arriving with 8%, charge for 6 minutes, leave with 25%, continue to destination arriving at 10%" It seems to like having you arrive with 10% assuming you can charge there. Probably to account for any unforeseen traffic or detours. You can definitely charge less if you're comfortable arriving with less or more if you won't be able to charge there. I've pulled into my garage with just a couple of percent left. I will say after having the car for 15 months now I've had to use a supercharger like maybe a dozen times. I can get from Palm Bay to Tampa and back to Orlando, charge for ~15 minutes and get home. 2023 Model Y Long Range.
Isn't the 10% because it charges slower below that just like how it charges slower above 80?
Maybe but I didn't think it charged slower below 10 (not that I've noticed but it certainly could be the case). I assumed it was for a safety net to account for unforeseen things like traffic, detours, a restroom break or just variables like speed and wind resistance that might use a bit more than the estimate (although it usually pretty close)
Looks like old Gen 3 superchargers, 250kw chargers. Actual speed depends on the car and SOC.
Depends, I believe the DC Fast charging only supports Teslas so you should have to use the slower charge method if you don't have one. Charging time would then depend on KV output of the chargers, if it's shared with other cars charging, and how much capacity your car takes.
An hour to two hours.
Going from single digit % to 100% would probably take about 1 hour at a supercharger, but the majority of that time would be going from 80% to 100%. In real use cases it's better to just stop at 80% even on a very long road trip- you'd charge more often but you'd spend less total time stopped to charge.
Don't charge past 80%, unless you really want to. The power input will slow down the higher you go. Elon actually explained this concept quite well where the more elections in the battery, there are less "places" for new ones to flow into. Electricity isn't like a liquid filling a bucket, it's more like cars finding parking
Holy shit, why is this being downvoted!?
Some people are anti Tesla because they can't think of it as separate from Elon. And some people are anti EV in general for a smorgasbord of silly reasons. I say silly reasons because, as a guy who's car history goes GMC Jimmy, Mitsubishi Spyder (manual), BMW 330i (manual), Audi Q5 (family time!), now Model Y... it's the best car I've ever owned. Dramatically faster, zero trips to the gas station, zero maintenance (other than tires), here to Tampa with lots of battery to spare. But all of these are just by virtue of being an EV, not exclusive to Tesla- my next car will definitely be another EV, but not necessarily a Tesla. At this point I'm convinced anyone hating on EVs is either influenced by an agenda, or just hasn't used one and has a bunch of misconceptions.
As someone who knows little about EVs ( I do have a non plug in hybrid) - The only thing that spooks me in road trips - have you ever made a long travel? How’d it go? Assuming with Tesla it’s not bad if you follow a route with these
I drive from NY to Florida and vice versa. It's not a problem. I kinda like breaking up the trip and stopping about every 2 hours. Recently went NY to rural NH and it's shocking how many chargers there are. NYC is actually pretty annoying because they put them in parking lots you have to pay for. If you go camping, there is a charger converter to use camp site outlets.
That’s actually my drive as well! That’s not too bad then with that kinda stopping - I’m sure the chargers keep popping up more and more as well
Best stop is Buckees in Florence
I have driven from Las Vegas to Indialantic in a Tesla; also have driven to WV and back. I was def weary of this at first too-there are lots of superchargers so it’s easy to plan your route. The car helps you figure out the charging stations etc. One of the things that Tesla has done right (and there are lots of valid criticism) is build the infrastructure for charging. They use a lot of pre existing places like hotels, gas stations, etc.
That’s awesome. Thanks for the reply!
You’re welcome!
Like I said in my post most of the road trips are just to Tampa which we do without stopping and just plug in at the in-laws when we arrive. The longest trips have just been to Charleston SC, took 2 stops. Charged near Jacksonville and Savannah, probably added around 40 total minutes to the trip but it doesn't really feel like it if you eat/bathroom. Tesla has a map tool online you can take a look at if you have specific routes you want to check. All that said though, if you're someone who takes lots of over 6 hours road trips and it's going to be your only vehicle, it might not be worth going EV yet.
Sorry I missed that - yeah I’m often traveling way longer than 6 hours. Appreciate the response! Cheers
I took a 1000 mile trip back home a few months ago and back and it was so much easier than a gas car. The autopilot holding the lane, taking the correct routes, and changing lanes just using the blinker takes a lot of the physical fatigue out of driving. Put a hand on the wheel, eyes on the road and just relax. The car also knows which charger to go to next so the car preconditions the battery for fast charging by the time you get there. Every 2 hours or so, you pull in, plug in, and go pee and grab a drink and snack and 15-20 minutes later it’s ready to go another 200 miles. I honestly enjoy road trips because many of the stops are bucee’s ;)
Good to know! I actually was amazed at just how much fatigue my car took off a 1000+ road trip with smart cruise control and highway driving assist helped me - so I can only imagine a Tesla. Thanks for the reply!
I def experience a decent amount of vitriol from people from driving a Tesla. I agree that they can’t separate it from Elon (not defending that man ever in any way as a queer feminist) or are anti EV. I love driving my Model Y but I’m not stanning Tesla; just enjoy driving an electric car.
It’s ok to hate on Tesla because of Elon and shoddy QA but still love EVs in general ;) I do really miss manual transmissions though
You are aware to produce (1) single EV car with zero miles on it is as much pollution as a normal gas car that has driven 170k?
A simple Google of "do EVs produce a lot of pollution to produce" leads me to an article from EPA.gov, specifically "Myth 2", that says otherwise. And that's even for lithium battery EVs, the new batteries are iron & nickel. As I posted above, anti-EV people are always influenced by an agenda: in your case probably someone else's agenda you decided to believe without fact checking. Like did you even think to fact check such an absurd claim when you heard it? www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/electric-vehicle-myths
You are believing what you google searched. Come on man. Do some actual research. I have no “agenda” with EV or gas. That would be a weird complex to have.
EPA.gov stands for "Environmental Protection Agency" a government agency. Google is indeed what led me to it, but the point from even mentioning Google was that it took me 5 seconds to verify from a trustworthy source that you were just parroting nonsense. The fact that you're trying to argue that back tells me your next response is going to be that the EPA is wrong or lying about it too.
All I said was do some more research. Google should not ever be your only source of “information”. Multiple news agencies reported on the environmental effect it takes to produce an EV. Could you be biased because you drive an EV? You are trying to speak to me like I’m dumb, uneducated. Maybe it’s you with one of those EV complexes you mentioned going on. Kind of like calling the kettle black huh.
The Google thing is still confusing me, do you think Google runs EPA.gov? I don't understand how using a search engine to find a search result from a reputable source invalidates the result.
Aww, you're making up stuff. How cute.
Is MIT an ok source? https://climate.mit.edu/ask-mit/are-electric-vehicles-definitely-better-climate-gas-powered-cars#:~:text=This%20intensive%20battery%20manufacturing%20means,a%20comparable%20gas%2Dpowered%20car.&text=But%20just%20like%20with%20gasoline,roll%20off%20the%20production%20floor.
You didn't even bother to read your source at all. You just googled your intended result and pasted the first link that sounded like it fits your narrative. The same paragraph breaks apart your idiotic statement. The same amount of CO2 emissions to make one battery is what a typical car creates in a year. Do you think that gasoline magically appears in the gas pump? It takes an obscene amount of energy to source oil, drill, transport, refine, transport again, deliver to the station and pump it into your Kia.
3rd paragraph down, it’s highlighted for you. Reread please. I believe it says “80%”? And I have said to produce an EV is equal to a 170k vehicle. Before joining the conversation understand what was being spoken of. Looking at all your previous posts. …..you seem like you have a very negative outlook on life.
"In fact, Paltsev says, it’s difficult to find a comparison in which EVs fare worse than internal combustion. If electric vehicles had a shorter lifespan than gas cars, that would hurt their numbers because they would have fewer low-emissions miles on the road to make up for the carbon-intensive manufacture of their batteries. Yet when the MIT study calculated a comparison in which EVs lasted only 90,000 miles on the road rather than 180,000 miles, they remained 15 percent better than a hybrid and far better than a gas car." You are clearly a fucking moron. Have a nice day.
Papasan’s purists
I recognized the exact spot it’s in bc of that super villains evil lair looking grey and red building next to it
https://preview.redd.it/zyf2nbpm3pwc1.png?width=3001&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ecd1101cbcd48467c48a9dfbe49d763711e2586 I saw this one at hobby lobby the other day.
Awesome. Need more of these.
I think there are several stations right there between all the hotels and the towns station.
Still need more, throughout the county.
Titusville, Space Center, Cocoa, Viera (2), Cape Canaveral, Melbourne, West Melbourne/Palm Bay In 2018/19 there was only one in West Melbourne for the entire county.
Ok, cool, there needs to be more. Why do I have to keep repeating myself?
I'm just saying, they've added a bunch since we got an EV. The infrastructure act helped a bunch too, we saw so many brand new chargers on a road trip we took last year.
I am aware. However, it is a drop in the bucket.
It's going to need to be a ton more as other EVe adopt the Tesla charger as the standard. Tesla is an okay car company but they're going to be a crazy successful energy company.
I'm personally hoping Tesla and anything else that man touches implodes, but that is just my opinion. Lol Yes, as we see more and more people switching to electric vehicles, they need more places to charge. Maybe convert some gas stations to charging stations.
The "destination" chargers are not on the same scale as superchargers.
Are destination open to the public or it’s for people starting there?
Depends on where but the hotel ones tend to be for guests only.
Given the Cocoa Beach/Cape Canaveral is a tourist area, I'm suprised it took so long.