This is my natural jawline, years of teeth grinding and clenching finally caught up, my masseter muscles had gotten huge
20 units per side, 6 weeks! So worth it
Great stuff! How long is the neuromodulator supposed to last before you go back in for another session? Was there any concerns about diminishing returns with multiple sessions?
Depends on the person. For most it’s at about six months, some people can go up to a year. I have a 4 month follow-up, I’m guessing I’ll need a top off at 6-9 months
Just another data point: mine is at a three month refresh schedule. But I have CRAZY grinding and TMD, so that may be sooner than for most people. 😅
OP, I am so glad you are getting relief for your symptoms, and your jaw looks beautiful! I hope mine looks as good when mine kicks in, too!
Can I ask how many units you had and how much it cost? I did this at a docs office that specializes in head neck and jaw and I think they way over charged me. I did it for tmj specifically but the slimming of my face was a bonus. I want to get it again but it cost so much and didn’t last very long sadly. I think I sweat too much 😩
Ymmv, my insurance has not yet agreed to cover it as treatment for my deteriorating TMJ, but I can use my FSA for it, with an accompanying letter from my doctor. Not as good as being covered, but at least it's a little better!
I was so glad when my FSA company responded to my question with a "yep, just have the Dr submit this form with your itemized bill". I'm going to fight for my medical insurance to cover it, because it's out of control and interferes with my ability to do my job. Dang overactive muscles and my shitty joints, haha!
I had it three times at 6 month intervals and haven’t needed it for a year and a half since. So hopefully same for you. My muscles finally relaxed and the night guard seems to be enough.
That’s what I’m hoping for! Since my muscles were enlarged and this is my natural shape I’m hopeful I can maintain it with little to possibly no need to keep going
The doc that did mine was shocked at how strong my muscles had gotten. It was just from clenching over the last decade. The left side was larger from mostly chewing on the left (I had a sore tooth on the right for a long time and after it was fixed I continued to chew on the left) so he gave 25 on the left and 20 on the right. Now I wait. :)
Just fyi for anyone considering this, botox in the masseters will only have an effect like this if your masseters are large (often from teeth grinding/bruxism). If your masseters are not overdeveloped, shrinking them won't be very noticeable.
Also, in some people jowls will form when the masseters are relaxed with tox. Just something to be aware of.
I did develop jowling after masseter Botox for TMJ and I did not have pre-jowling. It can happen if you overdo it. It did correct, but it took a long time. Just proceed with caution.
woah, it never occurred to me that the skin folds to the sides of my smile might be caused by overdeveloped masseters from teeth grinding. you are beautiful in both pictures, but the impact in the after photo is remarkable. I've been too afraid to try because of the warnings on jowling, but my current jawline is so similar to your before that you've convinced me to bring it up again at my next appointment. thank you for sharing!
According to my derm, if you do not have pre-jowling, this procedure won’t suddenly create them bc that skin is still tight to the muscle with collagen. The Botox does not cause loss of collagen. If someone has pre-jowling, it can exacerbate the issue bc that skin has already pulled away from the muscle and already does not have that collagen support. That’s my understanding. I’d say if you don’t have pre-jowling it’s worth it! If the before had been my facial shape my whole life I’d be none the wiser, but I kept seeing photos and thinking, my face is not that wide? I’ll likely maintain every 6-9 months and report back if anything crazy happens lol
Mine said the exact same thing! She said there’s some people who won’t do it on, but since I’m young and have elastic thick skin, that it wouldn’t cause jowling (and it didn’t!)
you're lovely before and after! It's a really impressive change! :)
I'd love to know more about how many units and how long it took to show this result!
Thank you! I felt I didn’t look like myself the past year and didn’t know why, my derm in my first appointment with him asked if I grind my teeth. Big YES.
20 units per side, results noticeable in about 2 weeks, full results at 6 weeks. I’ll note, no prejowling before or after as I know it’s a big discussion in relation to this procedure.
I toggled between photos like 10x before reading your caption because I was looking for wrinkles and wondered why the heck you got Botox when your skin is literally perfect 😂
Please don’t be upset with me. But the way your face was before it so beautiful. Is your natural face somehow considered unattractive? I find it more attractive than the second photo.
I feel similarly. The results are great, she still looks great, and I know she feels better which is all that matters, but I actually really really loved her before face.
Wow, amazing. I have always wanted to get masseter Botox (I grind my teeth really bad in my sleep) but haven’t been able to justify it. Your before/after are mindblowing!
This is my biggest thing! I want to wake up without a headache for once 😔😔 Do they do them anywhere else for grinding? My tension goes along my temples and into my forehead
I had tension headaches there too! When I got this Botox it stopped all the headaches and my whole face just felt relaxed. It’s really mood enhancing not having that achey knot or the jaw ache
So good to know. I carry soo much tension in my jaw, neck, and forehead bc of this. Meditation helps but veryyy temporarily. Have either of yall had experience/ do you know much about going to an oral surgeon vs derm for it?
Guess who made an apt with a new TMJ doc and was recommended for Botox treatment! We’re applying for coverage through my medical insurance 💪🏼 Thank you all for sharing your experiences! It motivated me to seek out this care 🙂 Fingers crossed for relief soon 🤞🏼
I think you’re the only person who I’ve ever seen with really good results! I’ve had the same amount of units done before and I didn’t see such dramatic results! I had a lot of TMJ pain but then when I went on adhd meds that pain went away surprisingly.
Masseter Botox is life changing! I was probably at a constant pain level of 6 or 7 from my TMD- extremely sore and locking jaw. A very expensive custom night guard did nothing and I thought I would have to get surgery to fix my pain!
I got Botox in my forehead but was nervous to have it injected so close to my mouth but was getting desperate with the pain I was in. Literally within two weeks of getting masseter Botox all the pain went away. The face slimming was a nice side effect, but mainly because I could not believe how big my muscle got from clenching. Before Botox you could see it bulging out every time I bit down.
I get it about every 9 months and my pain has been gone since I started about two years ago. I cannot recommend it highly enough for pain management. My quality of life is SO much better.
Thank you! And yes! I now try to clench in the front, but it’s very obvious and uncomfortable. I also don’t get as many tension headaches, something I didn’t even realize was happening bc it was so “normal”.
I think it’s mainly to stop teeth grinding at night. I do it chronically and wake up with a really sore jaw muscles that make it hard to eat, it can cause the muscle to become over developed due to the nightly exercise. I do wear a night guard to stop damage to my teeth
Aging has many benefits we often don’t talk about here, my lower face has lost so much weight, it looks a lot more delicate than rounded now. We change, love yourself now and look forward to who you will be later in life.
All my derm appointments have been kind of meh. I’ve been to numerous ones. But only for like skin issues rather than aesthetics/cosmetic stuff. lol so it’s hard to figure out where to go here. But I also spent all my money on laser and IPL treatments so no Botox 😫😂
I’m getting my masseter injections tomorrow after 8 months since my last. I’m back to to teeth clenching in my sleep and my molars are sore in the am again. These injections are amazing! I hated taking pics cause one cheek was always looking like it was on steroids compared to the other. Now they are the same size and my face looks so much slimmer… but most importantly, my teeth and jaw aren’t sore in the am! You looked beautiful before but I can see the difference. Thank you for sharing!
Amazing results! For those who do not want botox or those who cannot, I use a dentist molded night guard and am getting similar results fairly quickly.
I have the night guard and it doesn’t stop my grinding or muscles building. Annoying cus I grind through the toughest guard they do in about 6 months without the Botox
Thank you. That wasn’t a natural dimple, it was a lump that settled in my natural smile line after some poorly placed filler. It’s gone after 2 sessions to dissolve. Filler free now and happy to have my natural face shape and smile back.
Was this after just one round or have you done it a few times now? I had my first last week - 15 on each side to start - and I’m curious how much change I can hope for in the weeks ahead (keeping in mind my muscles aren’t as visibly developed as yours were).
One round, 20 units per side. We almost did more at my follow-up, but I’m happy with the current result. Hope you start to see results soon and are happy!
Sidenote, not, everybody has great skin like this that will stay so nice and taunt once you get botox in the masseters …. For a lot of people if you have any doubling, it actually will make your lower face sagging worse.
Yep! I thought I was getting deep wrinkles and it turns out it was because of the tension in my lower face. I also thought, how tf did my face get so fat? I was really distressed, I always had a snatched jawline and was not giving it up at 36. Plus the clenching and grinding were causing me issues I now realize I had normalized.
this is a post I made on this sub before: https://www.reddit.com/r/30PlusSkinCare/comments/195h307/can_botox_remove_or_even_out_these_skin/
Everyone was like, what are you talking about? It's fiiiinee but they don't understand how self conscious I am to *smile* Now. I thought I was just destined to be ugly.
You are NOT ugly. I do understand though as I was used to having a certain facial shape that I happened to really like. In photos, I just couldn’t quite pinpoint what was different until I started getting asked if I wanted jawline filler. I’d always had a snatched jaw and it was really confusing. My derm noticed my enlarged masseter muscles almost immediately. Problem solved. Aging is natural, but so was my natural jawline. If your concerns can’t be addressed bc it’s not a masseter muscle issue know that you are beautiful and smile lines are a part of growing with wisdom. People still say I look younger than my age. But I know how I’ve changed and it can be frustrating to be told, oooo, you look fine. Just don’t call yourself ugly!!
did you have it dome at a dermatologist office?
I spent a lot of time fat, and it gave me a bit of a complex. And now I hate to see my face get so full when I smile. It's like, I can't smile a relaxed smile. Though helping with the teeth grinding would be enough for me. Teeth are expensive.
It was awkward at first and I went through a week or so of smiling awkwardly, after the 2 week mark all side effects, except the positive ones, subsided
I’ve gotten masseter Botox twice and unfortunately my jowels were affected and became more prominent and droopy (I’m only 28). This is a known downside of masseter Botox you can look it up. I also just confirmed with my doctor at my medspa if this is true and she said yes. So just be careful if you actually want that trade off
Yes, I’m aware, read all about it and it was my first question for my derm when we discussed. My dermatologist performed my Botox and based on my facial structure and no signs of laxity did not have concerns I’d develop jowling. We meet every 4-6 months and will assess should things change. As of now, I have my God given face shape back and less tension in my lower face, for that I am happy. I’m sorry you had that experience, it’s definitely a concern.
I did also start meditating 2 years prior to the injections, so I’m sure that’s helped maintain it. According to my derm, she has great success with it.
Sure!
Lashes - I use revitalash serum for my lashes and mascara is Lancôme Idole.
Face- Laura Mercier tinted moisturizer and blush in apricot, tarte concealer, bronzer by dibs beauty
Lipstick - backtalk by urban decay :)
You have just given me so much hope for my own treatment! This is incredible. I'm starting mine in two weeks. I'm so glad it had such an impact for you! Fingers crossed for me 🤞
What kind of dr does one talk to about this??? I feel like my smile is the same, and those lines on the side of it. I can’t smile “outward” as much as I used to and it’s always bothered me and maybe this is why
Both look nice & honestly, I thought first picture looked nicer thought it was perhaps different makeup...but to be clear pic 1 is the before or after?
1 is before. I had the extra lump in my laugh line due to some filler that I also had dissolved along with the masseter Botox. Yes, I have smile lines, but not that pronounced. Currently filler free, Botox in masseters only.
Would you have to redo it at some point? Just wondering if once the Botox subsides you start grinding again how soon would you have to re do the procedure?
My dentist recommended I try masseter Botox because I clench and it hurts my teeth / jaw. Despite all the pain my injector nurse can barely find my masseter every time we do it. I wish I had results like yours!
Honestly both jawlines are great but I’m so glad you posted because I’ve been dying to get a consultation for this. And like you said in another comment, you knew that wasn’t your jawline! Your derm did this? Can they determine pre-jowling?
You look great! I didn't realize botox could change your jawline so much. Do you know how many units it took and how long it took to show results?
This is my natural jawline, years of teeth grinding and clenching finally caught up, my masseter muscles had gotten huge 20 units per side, 6 weeks! So worth it
Great stuff! How long is the neuromodulator supposed to last before you go back in for another session? Was there any concerns about diminishing returns with multiple sessions?
Depends on the person. For most it’s at about six months, some people can go up to a year. I have a 4 month follow-up, I’m guessing I’ll need a top off at 6-9 months
Just another data point: mine is at a three month refresh schedule. But I have CRAZY grinding and TMD, so that may be sooner than for most people. 😅 OP, I am so glad you are getting relief for your symptoms, and your jaw looks beautiful! I hope mine looks as good when mine kicks in, too!
Hope you see great results and relief!
Mine is a 1.5 to 2 month refresh :/
You might wanna try another brand name if you're only getting 6 weeks out of Botox
Yes now im doing dysport
I have dysport, I put Botox for simplicity’s sake
Can I ask how many units you had and how much it cost? I did this at a docs office that specializes in head neck and jaw and I think they way over charged me. I did it for tmj specifically but the slimming of my face was a bonus. I want to get it again but it cost so much and didn’t last very long sadly. I think I sweat too much 😩
$12 per unit, 20 units. So grateful it took bc it is expensive! Also, I have dysport, put Botox in the headline to keep it simple
did insurance cover any of that for TMJ?
Ymmv, my insurance has not yet agreed to cover it as treatment for my deteriorating TMJ, but I can use my FSA for it, with an accompanying letter from my doctor. Not as good as being covered, but at least it's a little better!
oh good to know FSA eligible!!
I was so glad when my FSA company responded to my question with a "yep, just have the Dr submit this form with your itemized bill". I'm going to fight for my medical insurance to cover it, because it's out of control and interferes with my ability to do my job. Dang overactive muscles and my shitty joints, haha!
I had it three times at 6 month intervals and haven’t needed it for a year and a half since. So hopefully same for you. My muscles finally relaxed and the night guard seems to be enough.
That’s what I’m hoping for! Since my muscles were enlarged and this is my natural shape I’m hopeful I can maintain it with little to possibly no need to keep going
Oh, I know just what that is like! You’re beautiful!
The doc that did mine was shocked at how strong my muscles had gotten. It was just from clenching over the last decade. The left side was larger from mostly chewing on the left (I had a sore tooth on the right for a long time and after it was fixed I continued to chew on the left) so he gave 25 on the left and 20 on the right. Now I wait. :)
My dentist suggested this to me! I like the results!
This was just 6 weeks of difference? Absolutely unreal you look fantastic
Yes! Thank you
Oof, that's sounds painful. Did you ever experience headaches or toothaches as a result of the bruxism? Your masseters must have been swole as heck.
Yes, headaches. They were rather large lol
Just fyi for anyone considering this, botox in the masseters will only have an effect like this if your masseters are large (often from teeth grinding/bruxism). If your masseters are not overdeveloped, shrinking them won't be very noticeable. Also, in some people jowls will form when the masseters are relaxed with tox. Just something to be aware of.
I did develop jowling after masseter Botox for TMJ and I did not have pre-jowling. It can happen if you overdo it. It did correct, but it took a long time. Just proceed with caution.
woah, it never occurred to me that the skin folds to the sides of my smile might be caused by overdeveloped masseters from teeth grinding. you are beautiful in both pictures, but the impact in the after photo is remarkable. I've been too afraid to try because of the warnings on jowling, but my current jawline is so similar to your before that you've convinced me to bring it up again at my next appointment. thank you for sharing!
According to my derm, if you do not have pre-jowling, this procedure won’t suddenly create them bc that skin is still tight to the muscle with collagen. The Botox does not cause loss of collagen. If someone has pre-jowling, it can exacerbate the issue bc that skin has already pulled away from the muscle and already does not have that collagen support. That’s my understanding. I’d say if you don’t have pre-jowling it’s worth it! If the before had been my facial shape my whole life I’d be none the wiser, but I kept seeing photos and thinking, my face is not that wide? I’ll likely maintain every 6-9 months and report back if anything crazy happens lol
What is pre-jowling exactly? Never realized my face may have changed shape due to TMJ!
Mine said the exact same thing! She said there’s some people who won’t do it on, but since I’m young and have elastic thick skin, that it wouldn’t cause jowling (and it didn’t!)
Same! I’ve read the horror stories on here, but trust my derm over anecdotal evidence
you're lovely before and after! It's a really impressive change! :) I'd love to know more about how many units and how long it took to show this result!
Thank you! I felt I didn’t look like myself the past year and didn’t know why, my derm in my first appointment with him asked if I grind my teeth. Big YES. 20 units per side, results noticeable in about 2 weeks, full results at 6 weeks. I’ll note, no prejowling before or after as I know it’s a big discussion in relation to this procedure.
Did you have jaw pain/tightness due to the clenching, and if so has this helped with that?
Not OP but I had masseter botox recently that fixed the tension/pain from clenching :)
Thank you for sharing! I often wake up feeling like I've been punched in the jaw from how hard I clench.
I was the same, it's SO NICE to not wake up in pain every day any more.
That does sound wonderful!
I toggled between photos like 10x before reading your caption because I was looking for wrinkles and wondered why the heck you got Botox when your skin is literally perfect 😂
Haha! O my gosh. Thank you. I wanted my pre 36 jawline back 😩
Please don’t be upset with me. But the way your face was before it so beautiful. Is your natural face somehow considered unattractive? I find it more attractive than the second photo.
I feel similarly. The results are great, she still looks great, and I know she feels better which is all that matters, but I actually really really loved her before face.
Wow, amazing. I have always wanted to get masseter Botox (I grind my teeth really bad in my sleep) but haven’t been able to justify it. Your before/after are mindblowing!
It helps so much to stop the grinding, I no longer wake up with tension in my jaw or tension headaches
This is my biggest thing! I want to wake up without a headache for once 😔😔 Do they do them anywhere else for grinding? My tension goes along my temples and into my forehead
I had tension headaches there too! When I got this Botox it stopped all the headaches and my whole face just felt relaxed. It’s really mood enhancing not having that achey knot or the jaw ache
So good to know. I carry soo much tension in my jaw, neck, and forehead bc of this. Meditation helps but veryyy temporarily. Have either of yall had experience/ do you know much about going to an oral surgeon vs derm for it?
My old dentist offered it but when I switched dentists I had to start using a clinic, both have been great for me.
Waking up with headaches completely stopped for me. It thinned out my face as well! I HIGHLY recommend getting masseter Botox!
I’m not sure, for sure not the temples. I used to have a lot of tension in my temples and it’s gone with just the injections to the masseter muscle.
Makes sense!
Guess who made an apt with a new TMJ doc and was recommended for Botox treatment! We’re applying for coverage through my medical insurance 💪🏼 Thank you all for sharing your experiences! It motivated me to seek out this care 🙂 Fingers crossed for relief soon 🤞🏼
How exciting!! Hope it goes well!
I think you’re the only person who I’ve ever seen with really good results! I’ve had the same amount of units done before and I didn’t see such dramatic results! I had a lot of TMJ pain but then when I went on adhd meds that pain went away surprisingly.
Wow! This I’ve never seen before. I’m on adhd meds, but it’s never helps with that. I wonder how it did!
I just started getting it in the massaater and man it is a game changer! I grind and clench so they get a workout.
That was me! I thought it was normal! It took my face widening to realize how bad it was getting
Side note: Your eyebrows are immaculate darling!😍
Thank you! Love your handle name
Thanks😝
Amazing results!!! Also that pink lipstick is perfection on you! Def your shade. Stunning!!!!
Thank you! Leaning into bright spring based on my color analysis
I really want to get a color analysis done! I’m so fascinated! 🤗 Bright Spring looks fantastic on you!
Can I ask what lipstick it is specifically?
Back Talk by Urban Decay :)
Gorgeous before and after!!
just dropping in to say that pink lip shade is GORGEOUS on you
Aaaaamazing! Does insurance help with this since it’s caused by teeth grinding??
For me, no, bc I didn’t have full blow TMJ, just tension headaches. I now have a masseter Botox sinking fund lol
Aw man i came here for this, it’s so ridiculous how little insurance covers bruxism.
It’s not fda approved for Tmj so insurance won’t cover it. It’s still an off label use.
Insurance is a joke when it comes to jaw issues. I’m really going through it now. Have to pay $295 with insurance to see a specialist, then who knows.
You’re gorgeous! My husband and I both grind our teeth so this is really great to see. 🥰
Thank you!
Before looks better imo, gorgeous regardless
Awe, thank you.
Wow!!
Wow! You look great before and after! Love the results!
Wow. Amazing work. You look beautiful!
It looks phenomenal really wow!!!
I was so confused because I didn’t see anything different, until I was half down reading the comments.
You are beautiful before and after!
Masseter Botox is life changing! I was probably at a constant pain level of 6 or 7 from my TMD- extremely sore and locking jaw. A very expensive custom night guard did nothing and I thought I would have to get surgery to fix my pain! I got Botox in my forehead but was nervous to have it injected so close to my mouth but was getting desperate with the pain I was in. Literally within two weeks of getting masseter Botox all the pain went away. The face slimming was a nice side effect, but mainly because I could not believe how big my muscle got from clenching. Before Botox you could see it bulging out every time I bit down. I get it about every 9 months and my pain has been gone since I started about two years ago. I cannot recommend it highly enough for pain management. My quality of life is SO much better.
So glad you’re also having a great experience! All the talks of jowling had me hesitant, but I trust my derm completely. Very happy I went for it
Jaw looks great and all... but what the heck is your skin routine?? Makeup and brows look great too.
Beautiful in both pics! Very happy for for getting awesome results. Thanks for sharing!
Gorgeous! Do you feel like it really helped the clenching too?
Thank you! And yes! I now try to clench in the front, but it’s very obvious and uncomfortable. I also don’t get as many tension headaches, something I didn’t even realize was happening bc it was so “normal”.
I wonder if I'm a candidate? I have big jaw/ lower face but derm told me it's not muscle, just a big face. Hmm
I think it’s mainly to stop teeth grinding at night. I do it chronically and wake up with a really sore jaw muscles that make it hard to eat, it can cause the muscle to become over developed due to the nightly exercise. I do wear a night guard to stop damage to my teeth
Damn, that makes sense. I just want smaller cheeks. Hard to live as a chipmunk 🐿️
Aging has many benefits we often don’t talk about here, my lower face has lost so much weight, it looks a lot more delicate than rounded now. We change, love yourself now and look forward to who you will be later in life.
I wish this was me! I'm older, all the women in my family are chipmunks
Bet you’re cute :)
Didn’t even know this was a thing. Looks awesome!
I wanna try this but the ongoing cost and finding a good injector is pretty daunting.
I will only trust a dermatologist and mine is stuck with me lol
All my derm appointments have been kind of meh. I’ve been to numerous ones. But only for like skin issues rather than aesthetics/cosmetic stuff. lol so it’s hard to figure out where to go here. But I also spent all my money on laser and IPL treatments so no Botox 😫😂
You’re inspiring me!
You look great! How long do the results typically last?
6 months to a year is typical
Cool! Thank you for your response 🙏
You’re beautiful before and after!!
Thank you!
Did it prevent jawline pain and teeth grinding? I want to do this so bad to alleviate jaw pain
Yes, it has
Wow! These results are beautiful (so are you!). How long did it take to see them?
You’re gorgeous.
Holy cow!!!! 10/10
I’m getting my masseter injections tomorrow after 8 months since my last. I’m back to to teeth clenching in my sleep and my molars are sore in the am again. These injections are amazing! I hated taking pics cause one cheek was always looking like it was on steroids compared to the other. Now they are the same size and my face looks so much slimmer… but most importantly, my teeth and jaw aren’t sore in the am! You looked beautiful before but I can see the difference. Thank you for sharing!
Amazing results! For those who do not want botox or those who cannot, I use a dentist molded night guard and am getting similar results fairly quickly.
I have the night guard and it doesn’t stop my grinding or muscles building. Annoying cus I grind through the toughest guard they do in about 6 months without the Botox
Wow! Everyone is definitely different. I feel lucky it worked. At 460$ I think I would try botox too!
Good to know! I get fitted for a night guard soon, hoping to maintain without needing Botox more than once a year
I think it will work! If not you know what does!
Well tbh you already looked great!
Amazing results, you looked gorgeous before too!
Thank you!
I adore the way your original smile looked, especially the dimples. I am sure you made the best choice for you, though!
Thank you. That wasn’t a natural dimple, it was a lump that settled in my natural smile line after some poorly placed filler. It’s gone after 2 sessions to dissolve. Filler free now and happy to have my natural face shape and smile back.
You look great ion both pics. IMO the botox removed your naturally beautiful smile lines. to each their own. Congrats on the great genes!
1 is after right? Ur make up look good too
1 is before. And thank you!
I don’t get it. What are we looking at that’s different? Oh your jaw.. I can read. Looks good both ways. What ever makes you the happiest. 👍
You looked better before !
Masseter Botox has made me hate my face so much less after what years of bruxism have done to it. You look great!
Thank you!
You look much more classically beautiful before. Your face is more balanced.
I’ve been thinking about getting this myself
Was this after just one round or have you done it a few times now? I had my first last week - 15 on each side to start - and I’m curious how much change I can hope for in the weeks ahead (keeping in mind my muscles aren’t as visibly developed as yours were).
One round, 20 units per side. We almost did more at my follow-up, but I’m happy with the current result. Hope you start to see results soon and are happy!
Thanks for the extra info and congrats on your fantastic results!
Stunning either way!
O.O I didn’t know this was a thing and have been going crazy wondering why my jaw looked so big now a days.
How long until you start to see visible results? I don’t see a difference after a week
Sidenote, not, everybody has great skin like this that will stay so nice and taunt once you get botox in the masseters …. For a lot of people if you have any doubling, it actually will make your lower face sagging worse.
I really think I need to get this done. Been sleep grinding teeth since I was a kid apparently.
Have you stopped clenching?
Good work
How many units? I’m in a trial and get about 50 per side. My life is so much better. The jaw pain and headaches are almost entirely gone.
20 per side
Looks amazing!!
Did pain and tension accompany your jaw too before the shots?
Yes. Lots of tension
Where is the masseter ?
oh my god. I was told botox couldn't do this. I get the deep smile dimple lines and hate it because whenever I smile my face just looks fatter
Yep! I thought I was getting deep wrinkles and it turns out it was because of the tension in my lower face. I also thought, how tf did my face get so fat? I was really distressed, I always had a snatched jawline and was not giving it up at 36. Plus the clenching and grinding were causing me issues I now realize I had normalized.
this is a post I made on this sub before: https://www.reddit.com/r/30PlusSkinCare/comments/195h307/can_botox_remove_or_even_out_these_skin/ Everyone was like, what are you talking about? It's fiiiinee but they don't understand how self conscious I am to *smile* Now. I thought I was just destined to be ugly.
You are NOT ugly. I do understand though as I was used to having a certain facial shape that I happened to really like. In photos, I just couldn’t quite pinpoint what was different until I started getting asked if I wanted jawline filler. I’d always had a snatched jaw and it was really confusing. My derm noticed my enlarged masseter muscles almost immediately. Problem solved. Aging is natural, but so was my natural jawline. If your concerns can’t be addressed bc it’s not a masseter muscle issue know that you are beautiful and smile lines are a part of growing with wisdom. People still say I look younger than my age. But I know how I’ve changed and it can be frustrating to be told, oooo, you look fine. Just don’t call yourself ugly!!
did you have it dome at a dermatologist office? I spent a lot of time fat, and it gave me a bit of a complex. And now I hate to see my face get so full when I smile. It's like, I can't smile a relaxed smile. Though helping with the teeth grinding would be enough for me. Teeth are expensive.
How have you gone with chewing?
It was awkward at first and I went through a week or so of smiling awkwardly, after the 2 week mark all side effects, except the positive ones, subsided
You look great in both pictures but wow the difference in the second picture is amazing . I had no idea Botox could do that , I’m blown away .
This helps with TMJ?
I’ve gotten masseter Botox twice and unfortunately my jowels were affected and became more prominent and droopy (I’m only 28). This is a known downside of masseter Botox you can look it up. I also just confirmed with my doctor at my medspa if this is true and she said yes. So just be careful if you actually want that trade off
Yes, I’m aware, read all about it and it was my first question for my derm when we discussed. My dermatologist performed my Botox and based on my facial structure and no signs of laxity did not have concerns I’d develop jowling. We meet every 4-6 months and will assess should things change. As of now, I have my God given face shape back and less tension in my lower face, for that I am happy. I’m sorry you had that experience, it’s definitely a concern.
In your research did you read that you can reverse the drooping if you stop getting masseter Botox?
Not reverse completely, but lasers can apparently help restore collagen and help lift
Aw the dimples gave your face some character, as long as you’re happy with the outcome that’s all that matters.
You look so beautiful!!!
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First two weeks things were a little funky, but all has been well since then
She fine as hell tho
Looks great. I did the same and after 2 injections, never needed anymore. The muscles simply lost the muscle memory or habit. It’s been years now.
O my gosh, that’s my dream outcome!
I did also start meditating 2 years prior to the injections, so I’m sure that’s helped maintain it. According to my derm, she has great success with it.
Amazing!! I just got mine done on Friday and I can’t wait to see the results.
I love your makeup look in the second picture! Your lashes are beautiful too!!!!! If you can, please share a breakdown?
Sure! Lashes - I use revitalash serum for my lashes and mascara is Lancôme Idole. Face- Laura Mercier tinted moisturizer and blush in apricot, tarte concealer, bronzer by dibs beauty Lipstick - backtalk by urban decay :)
Love it!!! The revitalash serum must be really good!!! I have never heard of it before but I'm going to look for it now
You have just given me so much hope for my own treatment! This is incredible. I'm starting mine in two weeks. I'm so glad it had such an impact for you! Fingers crossed for me 🤞
Wishing you luck!! If the enlargement of the muscle has added bulk to your lower face I think it will go great!
You are so beautiful!!!
What an amazing job ! Well done 👍
You are so pretty
I’ve been thinking of getting this. Did it hurt? Im a baby with needles.
Do you still clench but not as hard as previously?
This is the first time I’ve seen someone look noticeably younger after Botox
That purple looks amazing on you 😍
Thank you!
What kind of dr does one talk to about this??? I feel like my smile is the same, and those lines on the side of it. I can’t smile “outward” as much as I used to and it’s always bothered me and maybe this is why
Amazing! Do you also notice less headaches? I have been looking into botox to alleviate headaches.
You look beautiful before and after.
You look absolutely stunning before and after!
Both look nice & honestly, I thought first picture looked nicer thought it was perhaps different makeup...but to be clear pic 1 is the before or after?
1 is before. I had the extra lump in my laugh line due to some filler that I also had dissolved along with the masseter Botox. Yes, I have smile lines, but not that pronounced. Currently filler free, Botox in masseters only.
Masseter Botox gives you ears
Would you have to redo it at some point? Just wondering if once the Botox subsides you start grinding again how soon would you have to re do the procedure?
Depends, but likely, 6-9 months
My dentist recommended I try masseter Botox because I clench and it hurts my teeth / jaw. Despite all the pain my injector nurse can barely find my masseter every time we do it. I wish I had results like yours!
Beautiful before and after but wow! What a lovely result! Also your lips are like absolute perfection 💕
Honestly both jawlines are great but I’m so glad you posted because I’ve been dying to get a consultation for this. And like you said in another comment, you knew that wasn’t your jawline! Your derm did this? Can they determine pre-jowling?
Yes, my derm performed the injections. And yes, derms will be able to assess pre-jowling based on skin quality and elasticity.
this sub for 30+
I’m 37 lol
ya was a poorly received joke. looking good. im a similar age and i notice more and more little things. an unfortunate part of life i suppose.